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Sony TCKE500S No FF Rew or Play Lets Fix it

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12voltvids

12voltvids

Күн бұрын

No tape hub movement. That would be a belt right?
A pain in the ass belt to change is what it is.

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@J.Christ-man
@J.Christ-man 3 жыл бұрын
Great memories of doing tape deck serving, brings me back to the days on the bench. No one else enjoyed changing the belts or setting them up, especially the car decks but I liked the challenges and satisfaction of bringing it back to life again. Great video 👍🏻👍🏻
@jsenear
@jsenear 7 ай бұрын
I have one identical to this Capstan belt slipped off the pulley. Wish me luck. Going to attempt a fix tomorrow. 1-19-2024. Thanks for this video.
@thomascalamo4236
@thomascalamo4236 3 жыл бұрын
I can see that for you right now this is away to be in the thick of things with electronics. I, as many other people out here learn form you work and appreciate the out come to make unites like this work. Dave you are an inspiration to all of us watching your KZfaq videos. Thank you for all you do, You are truly a gentleman, a really great guy.😀👍👏🙏 god bless you sir.
@rogerh3087
@rogerh3087 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video, it was spot on with the disassembly/assembly. Ordered new belts from Slovakia, the old ones just seem to be stretched.
@dazzfromaus4797
@dazzfromaus4797 3 жыл бұрын
Repair engineers like you are a dying breed in our throw away society nowerdays. I still can't find an engineer to service and repair my Sonybvh2000ps 1 inch C format broadcast VTR.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
Yes we are. They are dropping like flies. All the guy's i knew back in the day are gone now.
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 2 жыл бұрын
I own a similar deck and I noticed there are three plastic poles close to the motor pulley where you can nicely place your flat belt before you assemble the mechanism. Same thing happens to the small pulley (two white plastic clips / poles up the gears pair). The very first time I opened the mechanism in order to change the belts I scratched my head questioning what to do until I watched a YT vid. About the small white gears I noticed a small crack on the lesser gear that made the whole mechanism went "berserk" (I mean rewinding the tape very fast but in the wrong way, trapped door, savage speed changes, strange alarming harsh noises, chewed up tapes, etc.). That little demon is the culprit of almost anything going wrong on these kinds of advanced Sony decks.
@guillermogerardogomezconso8614
@guillermogerardogomezconso8614 Жыл бұрын
Hello, remember if that small gear is attached to the motor shaft or rotates on the shaft, I have that problem
@albertocabezas282
@albertocabezas282 Жыл бұрын
@@guillermogerardogomezconso8614 it rotates with the shaft (still don't know why them let loose that gear on the shaft).
@stevenclarke5606
@stevenclarke5606 3 жыл бұрын
First comment, yeah. It’s such a shame that so many companies were ruined by accountants cost cutting, taking control out of the engineers hands, and turning out junk. Products were produced to a price rather than a specification.
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is people buy at a price rather than quality, most do anyway. But I know what you mean, think you are getting a quality product as you paid a bit for it and you look inside, plastic and cheap components!!!
@davidcollins1853
@davidcollins1853 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds much better than on-hold music of today.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding
@soulreaver555
@soulreaver555 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, put new belts on my Sony TC-TX1, but the service manual doesn't explain the orientation of the FR assembly. Using your video, I think I see the problem I'm having with mine, The FR is pointing in the opposite direction. Again, thank you I also SUBSCRIBED to your channel👍
@750kv8
@750kv8 3 жыл бұрын
That's a neat lil' screwdriver there!
@Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat
@Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat Жыл бұрын
"Let the cat of the bag" A classic line :D
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk 3 жыл бұрын
This was great i have a Sony TC-K561S 3 head deck on mine those transistors or what ever they are fixed to the back panel both of mine were dry jointed as was the audio in and outs and a few other joints ,the motor with the flat ribbon cable attached had a split in it so i connected wires to the appropriate places on the board same type of cassette mech it was the cheapest 3 head deck machine i could find at £10 uk the price i won it for on ebay but previous owner had messed around with it so had to sort their mistakes out as well ,I also now have a budget 1982 deck a sony tc-k220 from 1982 big differeence in build thicker case metal and nearly all metal deck mech so much better built and none of those awful flat ribbon cables the thing is with type 1 tapes i do not think the 3 head deck sound much better if at all the basic 1982 deck sounds fairly decent .
@andrewscott1253
@andrewscott1253 Жыл бұрын
It sounds better without Dolby S I own this deck too. Great video by the way.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Everything sounds better without Dolby lol 😀
@roodenberg
@roodenberg 3 жыл бұрын
I did belts on a TC-KB820 which looks very similar. You can do the belts w/o removing the print board but the centre screw does need to come out. You also need to make sure the cog and pegs on the reel motor are in the correct position when reassembling. I also found the head on the one I did pushed over. Owner tried to force a cassette in with the head bridge in the up position (due to belt failure). Azimuth was seriously out after that.
@jameswaldron2405
@jameswaldron2405 Жыл бұрын
Hi, would you be able to show us how the cog and peg on the reel motor need to positioned before putting the 2 halves of the transport back together, please?
@davecooke914
@davecooke914 4 ай бұрын
Great actor r.i.p burt
@jameswaldron2405
@jameswaldron2405 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great video, thankyou. Would you be able to show us exactly how the cog and peg on the reel motor need to positioned before putting the 2 halves of the transport back together, please? And is there any particular arrangement of the cam wheel and levers driven by the gear on the capstan that needs to be done before you put the 2 halves back together?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Can't show you something I don't have.
@jameswaldron2405
@jameswaldron2405 Жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids, Hi, thanks for the speedy reply 👍 I understand. I wondered if you might have had a diagram or similar. I'll have another careful look at your video. Thankyou again 👍😊
@soulreaver555
@soulreaver555 Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the FR cog fwd/rev pulley?
@jameswaldron2405
@jameswaldron2405 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's right. It seems likely it needs to be in a particular position when reassembling the mechanism, but I can't figure out just what that position should be. Any help greatly appreciated :-)
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 4 ай бұрын
The left channel sounds a bit down in the recording playback. Not sure if Dolby-S is doing that, maladjusted PB/REC levels or just a worn head.
@diogenescaruaru
@diogenescaruaru 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a bag of various types of belts from China and noticed that first they are much more thin than the originals, they come with 0.5 to 1mm width, while the originals have minimum 2mm width. Also some of them have uneven cut.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I had the same experience.
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 3 жыл бұрын
OWNER: "It doesn't work." TECH: "That's all I need to know."
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
Owner: what's wrong with it? Tech: it's broken!
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Owner: can it be fixed? Tech: just about everything can be fixed, it all depends on how much money you're willing to throw at it.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhaQ2 many things I wash my hands of and refuse to repair. Don't want to get married to old shit.
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Did you, or KZfaq delete my comment about starting my own electronics repair service?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhaQ2 I didn't delete anything. If you posted a link it would automatically be quarantined as spam.
@nikossoursos7032
@nikossoursos7032 11 ай бұрын
Hello sir. I did a very similar one today. It is a Sony TC-K411. Exactly the same meck. The belts went to goo. There is no need to take off the small board. Too much plastic that i don't like. I works but not of my taste.
@walker55able
@walker55able 3 жыл бұрын
great work impressive. I needed to do a similar repair on my casette player
@ronazarkiewicz1820
@ronazarkiewicz1820 3 жыл бұрын
Yes audionuts still get their cassette decks fixed and reel to reels,8 tracks,hifi vcrs the big advantage is you can record analog audio from your source I record Timewarp every Saturday that's on 4 hours on vcr tapes in hifi stereo try putting that on cd?
@GustoTheGamer
@GustoTheGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Stil better than the New 2020 decks
@Monza62000
@Monza62000 3 жыл бұрын
i hate it when the belts turn to glue ,,,replaced many ,,its a mess
@peterw1213
@peterw1213 3 жыл бұрын
I decided not to buy a newer Dolby S deck due to too much plastics over a deck built in late 80s solid like a tank that weighs more than 10Kgs.
@cassettedecksresurrection7204
@cassettedecksresurrection7204 3 жыл бұрын
i love your channel...great videos especially with cassette decks.A friendly advice.When you check the speed of a cassette deck its better do it with 3000HZ rather than 440HZ.the 440 0r 400 hz are not so accurate
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
No it's not. 3khz for measuring flutter but as far as speed goes 400hz is more than enough. Guitar tuner with a 400 "A string" is the way i usually did it till one of my kids borrowed my tuner and never returned it.
@cassettedecksresurrection7204
@cassettedecksresurrection7204 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids yes 400hz are enough and do the job...but in cassette decks,with 3000hz or even 1000hz you will end up more accurate. I've tried 400hz in different decks and i had small variances in speed audible in my experienced ears with songs i know. With 3000hz I've found that there is more accuracy. 400 to 401...that 1...is a big difference and audible But 3000hz to 3005hz for ex the difference in speed is not audible But hey... that's just my results...✌️
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@cassettedecksresurrection7204 Well being a musician I can set up just listening to music. When I was younger i had perfect pitch. I haven't played in years but i can still tune up a guitar by ear with no reference and it is spot on.
@mausermann7918
@mausermann7918 3 жыл бұрын
Last generation Sony cassette deck: plastic , plastic, plastic. Cheap, light, simple, extremely unimpressive quality. The older decks are much, much better.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@canadavey
@canadavey 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. However the older units can be annoying at times... You know, like having to gut it to do a simple belt change.
@nicomeier8098
@nicomeier8098 3 жыл бұрын
@@canadavey Yes, that's true. But going through that trouble is worthwhile with the older (higher in the range) decks. The ones that still had aluminium fronts and knobs. And metal pieces in the drive mechanism, head tilt mechanism, not the kind of plastic that gets brittle with age. I hate that.
@svenschwingel8632
@svenschwingel8632 3 жыл бұрын
This was an entry-level 3-header. They were all plastic machines - across the whole spectrum of manufacturers. I recently had to re-belt a Kenwood KX-7050S. It's a freaking nightmare with these machines that have the mechanisms attached to the faceplate subframe. Plus, the whole mechanism has to be disassembled to get to the capstan belt. And while doing that, it's almost impossible to not break one of those extremely tiny solder joints on the Mabuchi motors or the cassette compartment's microswitches ... because it just has to be motorized 😡
@Vladimir-ju7gc
@Vladimir-ju7gc 3 жыл бұрын
mo jo well, plastic age :P
@zulumax1
@zulumax1 3 жыл бұрын
27:04 What's up with the wobble of the plastic pulleys? I think that plastic changes shape and deforms with age. I just worked on my Denon DCD-1560 CD player from 1989 and the plastic arm which holds the magnet is bent to one side causing scraping noise. I was debating taking a soldering gun and heating the plastic to reform it, but decided against it. Gently bent the arm back anticipating a snap, but I got lucky without heat.
@bluebagski
@bluebagski 3 жыл бұрын
Hi.... I was watching another video about other uses for printer parts and as he dismantled the printer I noticed that it had a lot of plastic cogs of different sizers. I think you could re-use them in cassette decks.... what do you think.... They should be strong enough..........
@MrJDNJ
@MrJDNJ 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a tape deck question: I have the Denon DRW-660. It has nice soft-touch controls, blue number and meter display, dual deck. The only thing it gets hung up on is the "autoreverse" function. It's like the reverse mechanism is clicking and trying engage, but it's just not getting there. And, it's happening on Both Decks. Regular one sided play seems to work fine. Is there a common part on the main board for that function?? Or did both decks fail the same way?
@Metaru_Raiden
@Metaru_Raiden 2 жыл бұрын
I have this Sam deck but the wow and flutter seems to be bad. I notice when there's a sustained note, the music just doesn't sound good. Do you happen to do any repairs?
@texasfly9925
@texasfly9925 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I enjoy your videos!! They are very interesting to me as I like to take things apart and repair them myself too! However, fixing electronic things are beyond my capability! Which leads me to you! Finding someone qualified to work like you do has proven frustrating. If I’m not out of line here, I would like to speak to you about some work on a mid 1970’s Pioneer stereo rack system. Would you be interested in working on something like that? I would pay for your time and I’d cover all shipping costs. If you are, we can establish a form of private communication. Thank you for your consideration!
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 3 жыл бұрын
Well it sounds ok for the end of the line, but i'm supprised sony became that nasty :-( But you fixed it and it should last a few years at least.
@KR1275
@KR1275 3 жыл бұрын
@Taco Many later Sony products are very good quality.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
Metal chassis has their own problems as well. They rust and seize up. Look at all those dual, Garrard and bsr record players with the frozen metal parts. Not an issue with plastic.
@svenschwingel8632
@svenschwingel8632 3 жыл бұрын
@Taco i have a 1990s TC-K909ES ... it's an amazing machine and easy to work on.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I agree with the locked up record decks, But to be fair they were manufactured a hell of a long time ago, the grease just went bad. Not a metal fault. I've never seen a rusty tape deck or record deck, i suppose it depends on the environment it was kept in. Chuck anything in a damp shed and you are asking for trouble :-(. I would rather have metal any day, I didn't know who you were commenting to, So i thought i would have a moan for no reason at all LOL :-D
@KR1275
@KR1275 3 жыл бұрын
@Taco The TC-KE500S was part of the QS-line. Look at the video. Besides the belts it still works fine after > 25 years.
@hqdefault
@hqdefault 11 ай бұрын
So much treble loss for a chrome tape.
@frankreiserm.s.8039
@frankreiserm.s.8039 3 жыл бұрын
i am KB2VNG. What are you? Frank
@nonyabiz62
@nonyabiz62 2 жыл бұрын
First guess is mode belt
@cassettedecksresurrection7204
@cassettedecksresurrection7204 3 жыл бұрын
the synthetic rubber ones last for ever.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought and then someone mentioned that they went bad and the real rubber was better.
@cassettedecksresurrection7204
@cassettedecksresurrection7204 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids i collect and repair many cassette decks....the real rubber belts I've found in every cassette deck I've opened were goo....melted... The belts in old silver faced Technics decks were from synthetic rubber...all still working fine... The real rubber is better in terms of performance but back then more expensive than synthetic ones... But as longevity the synthetic lasts more.✌️ Again you have a great channel...hope in more cassette deck and amplifier videos✌️
@endadalton
@endadalton 3 жыл бұрын
Hi do you have a video to change pinch roller thanks
@Vladimir-ju7gc
@Vladimir-ju7gc 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes a third hand would come in handy :)
@mjl4423474
@mjl4423474 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not used to Dolby S, it sounds like it was missing a bit of treble. Or is that just how it sounds using that reduction function? I can't imagine taking one of those part in 10-15 years time haha Jeeze!
@vascooliveira6107
@vascooliveira6107 3 жыл бұрын
I noted that too ! I think the problem is he forgot to calibrate the tape before the recording test, if this deck has auto calibration function.
@darinb.3273
@darinb.3273 3 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge Dolby S is supposed to be the best consumer Dolby ever conceived, hardly distinguishable from CD (even with type 1), However the head(s) must be squeaky clean, azimuth spot on and a pristine head condition (not worn away). In my experience Dolby B and Dolby C are just as sensitive to these adjustments. Especially if the tape is played in other machines. If the azimuth is off even a little it will sound as if you put pillows over your ears, not to mention and the breathing you'll hear (especially with Dolby C). Many don't like Dolby because in their mind it cuts the trebles, with the way Dolby works it records the trebles at a higher than normal level so it is perceived it cuts the highs when infact it is actually restored back to the normal level of treble sound, however the Dolby circuitry is a bit sensitive to the azimuth even on the same machine the phase difference can confuse the Dolby circuits. Sounds fine with no Dolby but even on the same deck if the azimuth is out badly Dolby will make everything sound awful, even on the same machine.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't used dolby s either. Just tried it on this deck. All tape loses a bit in the high range.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@darinb.3273 That's why when I used cassette I used dbx. What many people did not realize was dbx was an integral part of stereo tv transmission, and HiFi video recorders. Betamax used dbx and coding for the Hi-Fi Channel and license it from dbx. The VHS Hi-Fi manufactures did not license their noise reduction from dbx but use the system so similar that there were many lawsuits initially from dbx that were dismissed because they changed it just enough to not infringe even though it did literally the same thing compounded the entire frequency spectrum.
@svenschwingel8632
@svenschwingel8632 3 жыл бұрын
Dolby S allows you to keep the recording levels below the tape's MOL (wich greatly reduces THD) while having an almost noise-free recording. If the deck is set up right and the circuitry works without mismatch, it's really amazing what analog cassette can achieve.
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 3 жыл бұрын
Brittle plastic EEEEK! Between that and belts that turn to mush!!!
@myinnocentdevil
@myinnocentdevil 2 жыл бұрын
What size are the belts?
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't tell you. Have to measure.
@user-dg6bh2ik7v
@user-dg6bh2ik7v 6 ай бұрын
oh this tape heads were bad,no high frequency.every body should avoid this although its fixable
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 6 ай бұрын
Heads do wear. That's the way it is. Hard to come by these days.
@user-dg6bh2ik7v
@user-dg6bh2ik7v 6 ай бұрын
also a small little things about amorphous head,this materials will degraded by the time,i bought one of these and sounding not as good as source.when you buy a hundreds even a thousands dollar for a high-end cassette deck,when the head materials degradation,even worn less it sounds just disappointment @@12voltvids
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 6 ай бұрын
The timing has to be set for all the gears. There are timing marks on every gear. I did a video on timing this Sony mech. It was an slvr1000 done about a month or so ago.
@kai990
@kai990 3 жыл бұрын
Dude for 1200 bucks a night id sleep outside if its just a day or two
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
Most expensive place I ever stayed in was 600 a night.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
I had to do that once. Everything affordable was full. I parked over in the corner of the lot and slept in my car. Was woken up twice because the operator called the police. Second time the cop suggested it would be better (safer) for me if I parked in the lot of the police station. Said that people sleeping in their cars had been mugged in the past while they slept.
@andrewhenderson6219
@andrewhenderson6219 3 жыл бұрын
Do people still play tapes. So out of date
@Monza62000
@Monza62000 3 жыл бұрын
yes we do an reel to reels , 45s , lps .,..yep never stopped i even have 8 tracks my boys got it to it too
@darinb.3273
@darinb.3273 3 жыл бұрын
It's fun for some it is nice to hold in your hands the physical media that no other person could know you have unless you tell them LOL cassette, reel to reel, 33 and 45 rpm vinyl, and yes even the 8 track stuff (for some). Streaming and downloading a person doesn't really have a tangible, physical object not to mention placing or loading on or into something that interacts with it, even a CD the machine spins the disc. Depending on a person's preference some of media sounds superior to some of the others.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@darinb.3273 I have all my media on a USB stick, hard drive, and backed up onto Blu-ray. Does that count as physical media?
@Monza62000
@Monza62000 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids no
@darinb.3273
@darinb.3273 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Compared to streaming of course LOL at least with MP3 a person still has something physical they can hold in their hand, granted it isn't like cassette or vinyl or even the CD, but in comparison to streaming there is nothing other than pushing button(s) to play skip pause and stop. No album art to actually hold and flip open or through LOL.
@charliea1963
@charliea1963 3 жыл бұрын
3:09 i will never use them. i heard women love men who cook. BS.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
I will never use any of those services either but Sonny Boy doesn't drive (one of the things that annoys me to no end, because his excuse is he doesn't want the expense of owing a car or operating one yet he pays hundreds on delivery charges) Women do like men that can cook. I can cook and I am dam good at it when i do. There are a few things that only I am permitted to make because it only turns out perfect when i do it. One is an old recipe from my grandmother handed down to my mother for mac and cheese and another is fried chicken which tastes exactly like the original (not the current) KFC. I figured out the secret recipe. Also anything on the BBQ. If it is either of those or a BBQ night then it's me cooking. I actually have a few of them "in the can" as the phrase goes (that's a throw back to the days of film to indicate that the film has been shot and it is in the can awaiting editing) that some day might even see the light of day. The KFC one is actually on my channel but not public.
@charliea1963
@charliea1963 3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids We all have a lot on our plate these days (pun intended), Recipes handed down through family are worth gold in our hearts, it's awesome that you do to. Thanks.
@12voltvids
@12voltvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@charliea1963 some day I might even share it.
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