Sorting Out The RUST Behind The Rear Speakers In My Civic Type R EP3!!

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3 жыл бұрын

The most overlooked and common place for an EP3 to rust is behind the rear speakers! Check out what to do if you find RUST lurking in your car.
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Olly takes the rear speakers out of his Honda Civic Type R EP3 and finds some rust! Follow Olly as he works through the process of cleaning out and converting the rust followed by spraying Zinc primer to protect the car from future problems.
I have given this a go myself but I have no idea what I’m doing. This method may be wrong so only follow this as a guide or to show what not to do.
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@ahmedjabbar7467 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your efforts Olly, we need more preventative maintenance videos like this please. We can see that it wasn't an easy video to film so good on you for being patient you're helping loads of us civic owners 👍

@kristianharley7231 3 жыл бұрын

Nice detailed video mate 👏🏻

@chrishandley7350 3 жыл бұрын

Loving the vids. Keep it up Buddy. Definitely gonna look behind my speakers... wish me luck.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate that man! I’ve got some things in the works but COVID has screwed my income! I have some cool bits coming! Fingers crossed that yours isn’t too bad! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

@jamescruickshanks5755 3 жыл бұрын

Good vid dude thanks for taking the time 👊🏻

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Appreciate you checking it out!

@Robotron5000Deluxe 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing me this. I have an EP4 which I've undersealed from beneath but never thought to look in those spaces. I'm gonna have a look this weekend.

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

No worries! I hope you don't find anything nasty down there!

@dickwhackis5783 2 жыл бұрын

Good job man, that looks awesome once done. Great video

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Yeah, I am pretty happy with how it all turned out!

@greggsmith5391 2 жыл бұрын

good job buddy this information will hopefully pass to others and save a few more ep3s from the dreaded rust

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Appreciate it! That would be wonderful as they are getting a little crispy out there! Haha! Glad that you found it useful!

@ZedJay88 2 жыл бұрын

Life saver you pal! Thanks for the valuable content

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

No worries! I am glad it’s been able to help you out!!

@davidwhittaker9511 3 жыл бұрын

Good works Olly, awesome find! One never knows what you may find when you go looking for Rust in small spaces around wheel wells. Just a thought, have you removed the rear trunk interior panels to investigate rust on the backside of the wheel well. I have a 2004 EP3, have not ever checked into this. Your video has motivated me to check it out. Well Done, Thanks!

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I am glad I could help you out. I actually have another "Rust" video on the inside of the rear arches. When I did that, you could see that basically all of the wheel well was alright. When I installed the Coilovers I didn't see anything scary either! Haha. The next one to check is the boot floor, under the spare wheel. I am too scared to have a look yet! Haha

@connorfitzpatrick5081 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Did you silicone the side skirt clips at all, if so how? People have said this is how the water is getting into the rear speakers wells.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I did actually! I didn’t know it was an issue for everyone! I just put some on my finger and applied it that way before putting the speakers back

@adm5017 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Have to take a look in mine.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is definitely worth it!

@Ashley-lb9jz 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video dude nearly cried wen I looked at mine😂 all fixed now after following your your vid. Big thanks 😎

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

No worries at all man! I am so glad it was able to help you out!

@jeremyrolfe8460 Жыл бұрын

I've been doing this lately. I got nearly complete coverage with the brush on kurust. You just have to keep sticking your phone in the hole to recored your progress as its a totally blind job. The shorter the handle on the brush the better! I also got a waxoyl pressure washer with a bendy hose which was Ideal to get in the tight areas.

@natel5370 3 жыл бұрын

That’s only what you can see, trust me just restored my 30th Ep3 and there are many more areas hidden that are only fixed by a full chassis strip and restoration. If you have rust there that’s already gone too far in other areas. It’s sad but these care are rotting from the inside out get a camera inside your chassis legs. Strip the chassis back to bare metal re seam seal and protect properly. Strip the carpets out and plastics takes a few hours but you will know where you stand guys

@jamesp111rks 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Nathan. I'm doing this exact same job on my Cosmic EP3. Which chassis legs would you advise we look at first? Do you mean front bumper to bulkhead?

@natel5370 3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesp111rks yep remove bumper bars front and rear and replace,they will no doubt be rusty the rear will be for sure. Get an inspection camera in there. Also remove all side skirts take the interior out take the carpets completely out and the sound deadening sponge material in the foot wells and check the floor pans especially in the footwell area where the front and rear floors join. Just checking behind panels isn’t enough it’s easy to strip the interior then all is there to see if issues, no point doing half a job on these cars go all in. I went bare metal floor pan underneath and also removed all old seam seal and re did it all with help of a proper Dinitrol chassis restoration specialist it’s future proofed now but my chassis place have turned away many EP3s that on close inspection were to far gone sills floors can be changed but rust deep in seams and chassis is game over. Hope this helps and it’s not cheap but worth it but go all in

@jamesp111rks 3 жыл бұрын

@@natel5370 Perfect. Thanks. I have the same rust as Ollie has here but a bit further gone. A couple of little holes that are going to need welding on o/s. Carpet coming out as well and I’ll do the checks you recommend!! Cheers.

@djmandrick 2 жыл бұрын

A good brush-on rust converter that may have made this a little easier (had you not have had previous leftovers!) would be Vactan (a little goes a long way so its cost effective too. I've had good success on my ST wheel arches with it, and its easy to then painted over (I used black Hammerite), just for anyone else looking for a spray alternative. Great video, mine has been undersealed so I'm hoping this won't be a problem but I'lll look into this when it comes to a speaker upgrade. Thank you!

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with you. This job would definitely benefit from a brush on method. Thanks for checking out the video! Fingers crossed for you!

@brucem0n Жыл бұрын

A flexible drill extender arm !!! I never knew this existed but now I'm questioning how I've survived for so long without one and i must get one now

@OllyRoss Жыл бұрын

So useful isn't it! What a crazy creation! Haha

@lampaq 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Olly, i found your video about rust in that place under rear speaker. So I want try fix it. And can't find "flexible extender " or something like that in Lithuania, can you write or link, which tool exsactly did you use with brush?

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

There should be a link in the description to one. Let me know if that doesn’t work. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@leewhitehead8407 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful mate... 👌

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one! I am so glad I could help you out!!

@James-pd6ce 2 жыл бұрын

I purchased a flexi drill extension but the wire brushes are to big for it? Flexible Rotary Drill Tool Drive Flex Shaft Attachment 42" Extension for Dremel. Any ideas can you change the size of the head on the drive?

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm not sure on whether you can change the size of the head. It does seem like you have ordered one for a Dremel and not a Drill. Could that be the issue??

@phcollins101 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! Done one side of mine now and starting the other. Do you know where the moisture comes in? Want to stop it.

@OllyRoss Жыл бұрын

Nice one! From what I can tell, it comes in from the mounting holes for the side skirt

@iThhhh 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, trying to sort this Issue out myself, where can I get one of those long flexi bits to go on my drill? Brilliant video! Thanks

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

I have put links in the description for everything I used in this video. I didn’t have to buy the flexi thing because we already had one so I have linked a similar one. Thanks for checking out the video!!

@davidwhittaker9511 2 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss I bought one of those Flex driver bits, works well around corners. Thanks!

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidwhittaker9511 Nice one! I am glad it has helped you out!

@jam3z013 2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, what drill extension did you use? Can't seem to find one

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

I have updated the description with another one that I found so check that out

@colinrobinson4327 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid, just looked at mine, 03 pre face lift! Little bit worse than yrs so not to bad. Just ordered all the gear, eyes down look in this w end hopefully! 👍

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I am glad to hear that it isn’t rotten through! Good luck with it!

@colinrobinson4327 3 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss yeah always a bonus! How does it get in there tho? Is it through the plastic pins or rear lights as well? Worth sealing the pins and getting new light cluster rubbers? Am quite to the ep3 game after wanting one for ages! Cheers

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

@@colinrobinson4327 I think its a mixture of the wheel arch liners and the clips that hold the side skirt in. Yeah, I put a bit of sealant on the clips. It is nothing to do with the rear lights but it could be worth checking the spare wheel area in the boot because that can be rusty (that may have something to do with the rear light seals)! I haven't checked mine yet... I hope you are enjoying the car though!

@screwdajuice 3 жыл бұрын

Hey mate! How has this turned out for you? Any rust issues after treating it?

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man. It hasn’t been too long since doing it so I haven’t had a look yet.

@stevenrobotham1557 2 жыл бұрын

What was that extendable tool you put on your drill?

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

There should be a link to it in the description 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@dec392 3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna be getting an ep3 type r, always wanted one since I was little, am guessing all ep3’s have rust but just depends on how bad it is ? What am I looking for when I go view one, thank u

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

You are the same as me then! I wanted one for years too! So, yeah, pretty much all of them do have rust. The main points are the rear wheel arches behind the arch liners, behind the speakers, the sills along the bottom of the car and the boot where the spare wheel is. It's also worth checking the rear crash beam if you can.

@dec392 3 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss okay mate thanks very much 👍🏻

@spyrothedragon3431 3 жыл бұрын

Have you got a link for the drill extension mate?

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

There should be a link in the description to everything

@slynas10 3 жыл бұрын

Good job man, I’ve a week off work at the end of the month here and might have a crack at mine. I’ve saw people put underseal like wax oil down there as well, or is it better just using the zinc primer like you have? Maybe both, primer then wax oil?

@jakesturdy2000 3 жыл бұрын

What I did was wire brush all the surface rust off then got the hoover out and got all the crap out. Then poured some rust converter down then brushed it all over, let that dry. Once that was dry I sprayed it with zinc primer then let that dry and went over it with waxoyl.

@slynas10 3 жыл бұрын

Jake Sturdy yeh, this is probably what I will do myself, saw a lot of people on the owners club using this exact method as well 👍

@KPC700 3 жыл бұрын

@@slynas10 Quickest method is pour old engine oil then brush on. Or use a cavity wax product called Dinitrol, spray it using a extended nozzle.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Just like Jake said, you could put it on after the zinc primer. That is exactly what I did with my rear arches.

@Synept 3 жыл бұрын

Not the best idea to use flammables, if it needs welding in the future it could go up in flames

@tjvtec9 2 жыл бұрын

Whats that drill bit called u used to get into the tight space drill extension?

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

There should be a link to one in the video description 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@tjvtec9 2 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss thanks man 👌

@JamesTumilty 2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to take a look at mine, be interesting to see what its like in there.

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely worth having a look!

@JamesTumilty 2 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss I'll give you a shout out when I do the video on it.

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesTumilty awesome! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@dinnage1 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the drill extension bit from?

@glencraw6014 3 жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment that I’ve been looking on eBay and screwfix and it’s only the drill bit ones that’s coming up

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man. Sorry that I didn't link this. It was something that we already had. However, this is what you are looking for (I'm going to update the video description too: www.sealantsandtoolsdirect.co.uk/manufacturers/silverline_tools/power_tool_accessories/flexible_drive_shaft_drill_extension_and_keyless_chuck_633973_P28875.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw_sn8BRBrEiwAnUGJDuX8clPYWMS0XidLuzGnfhI_0k-aHIPFiDyFzeuNcGtYXSc84AycNhoCDoQQAvD_BwE

@timocallaghan4408 3 жыл бұрын

The best part of being a pessimist is that things are never as bad as you imagine when you actually look lol

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! This is true! With this I wasn't sure though... I have seen so many horror stories!

@johntobin3673 3 жыл бұрын

Well mate i was going to buy quafe diff for my ukdm ep3 does it fit straight into the gearbox or ??none lsd

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

That is exactly what I have in mine! As far as I am aware, it does just fit. I got mine in a different gearbox secondhand because my gearbox was on the way out. So i just completely swapped gearboxes

@johntobin3673 3 жыл бұрын

Olly Ross , yea I was going to buy dc5 gear box couple months ago seen one for 1500 euro as i live in Ireland , it’s have better final drive , but now I’m just thinking of dropping out my gear box and put in wat you have ,, is it much better to drive mate any clunk noises while turning no ?? Love the civic content mate ,ya helped me lot with your recaros I just got same recaros they where little dirty but I watched your video and now spotless I’m doing the dreaded back speakers next to check rust down in the arch ,,wish me luck 😂😂😂

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the DC5 final drive is better for acceleration. The LSD is definitely one of the best things I've done to my EP3. It completely transforms the car. It does love hunting for the camber in road now which makes it more, how do I put this? "Exciting"! Haha. Ive got no clunking or anything. You wouldn't feel anything different in that respect. Just loads of positives. Ah, thanks man! Glad I could help you out with something! Appreciate you checking out the videos! I hope you don't find anything too horrible! Good luck!

@johntobin3673 3 жыл бұрын

Olly Ross ,no mate very happy to have your Channel to check things , I put skunk 2 lower Control arms on this morning was some hard job to do ,,I’ve an x brace now in the back put in ,so shud handle really good ,keep the videos coming Lad 😍😍😍dreaded in behind speaker rust next 👀

@HaroonKhan-lu4xu 2 жыл бұрын

Seal the inner arches where it meets the outer body nr the lips. Strip your carpets inside and oil fill or melt vaseline and pour the liquid into the holes of floor pan into the sills especially nr rear arch both sides and corners. Anywhere where water can find its way will sit and rot the chasis.

@manccarguy 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on undersealing the car?

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, I won’t be doing that by myself. I will probably get Motion Motorsport to do it. It will most likely happen in the future but not for a while.

@emmadeeba2038 3 жыл бұрын

The big question is?! Was that your old duvet cover??!!! Great vid thanks 👍

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

The BIGGEST question of all!!! 😂😂😂 Nah, it is my girlfriends old one Thanks for checking it out!

@livinglifeboosted1642 2 жыл бұрын

I really like this video and now I also really hate it because I am going to have to take a look behind my speakers 😆

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thanks and I’m sorry! At least you know about the issue rather than finding out when it’s too late! Haha

@livinglifeboosted1642 2 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss The good news is I look today it's not too bad Does need rust proofing as it has surface rust

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! You are one of the lucky ones! Haha

@ayrikdoesmemes 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Olly. I came from Cad.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Cad is the man! I have some videos with him if you scroll back 👀👀👀

@HaroonKhan-lu4xu 2 жыл бұрын

This will coat the inside panel which will slow the process down but the source as to where the water trail runs from needs sealing otherwise it will rot out from underneath and spread like cancer

@vovikvovik1085 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man. You should pay attention to your tires. They are wearing discs in the wrong direction. Look 9:11 on video. Sorry for my English

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

They are designed like that to get the water out from the tire as quickly as possible. From what I can tell, they are fitted correctly. Appreciate you looking out for me though! www.uniroyal-tyres.com/car/tyre-guide/tyre-knowledge/fitting-rainsport-3

@vovikvovik1085 3 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss Thanks. I did not know it. And thanks for showing these cavities in need of treatment. I will do it.

@Synept 3 жыл бұрын

Huge dent in your front wing?

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know. Kind of on the look out for another one but haven’t really looked

@mrgizmo182 3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t looked in my rear speaker well yet. I’m too scared to.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

That was exactly how I felt... It has to be done unfortunately otherwise it could become too far gone

@Nappepappe 2 жыл бұрын

"Man, this is way worse than mine!" is what i thought after watching this. There's now a nearly fist-size hole cut out of my car.

@OllyRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear! Hey, at least you are actively doing something about it! Could have been even worse if you left it!

@jakewilliams909 3 жыл бұрын

Mine were exactly the same as that. Just drowned it in rust converter. 😂

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! That would work too I guess!!

@mgzs100 3 жыл бұрын

You should remove the rear liners and bin them. No need for these. There the reason why so many facelift cars have been scraped

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know, I have undersealed behind them and put them back in for now. Probably going to get the pre facelift cover for the fuel filler neck and then take them out for good

@mgzs100 3 жыл бұрын

@@OllyRoss i own a preface and don’t understand why they put the linners in facelift models.

@OllyRoss 3 жыл бұрын

It makes absolutely no sense! 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️