Just received mine (MixPre-3 ii). Plugged my NTG3 into it, turned it on, set it up for 32-bit float and man.... coming from a Zoom H6 that I spent the last 6 years using.... I... I can't believe how awesome this is. I set my gain down so I was peaking at - 30db and it was soooooo clean when I'd bring it back up in Premiere! This thing should last me, well, forever if the unit is built to last. I've got it sitting under my Epic-W (such an awesome setup for one-man-band interviews) and now wondering if all I need to send timecode to the cam is a 3.5mm to 4-Pin timecode cable. Game changer for my line of work!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@valquireveljkovic Жыл бұрын
Haha Ryan, could be my words :D First time I used the Mixpre I had exactly the same experience - game changer. And it certainly revived all my mics to the fullest.
@elnurvl2 жыл бұрын
00:15 - Who is Paul Isaacs? 00:53 - Motivation behind releasing the second generation 3:57 - More about the R&D 5:30 - What is new in the second generation? 6:30 - Changes on the hardware 8:29 - You can now jam timecode 10:19 - Benefits of 32 bit float 19:00 - What is “bagdrop”? 20:52 - When (not) to use limiters? 21:45 - Will soundmixers lose their job? 25:18 - USB file copy 27:37 - +18dBu output on Mixpre-10 II 28:42 - Adjustible limiter 32:41 - Power options 36:49 - What happened to “M” models 39:00 - Remix with 32-bit float 43:48 - Editors supporting 32-bit float files 45:15 - Can you re-record a 32-bit float file as a 24 bit file using Remix?
@curtisjudd2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Elnur.
@elnurvl2 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd You are welcome!
@BasicFilmmaker5 жыл бұрын
Very nice coverage as usual. I have two of the MixPre-3s and am very happy with them. 👍
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. Those MixPre-3s are solid in just about every way.
@randyrektor4 жыл бұрын
I love his passion behind Sound Devices' vision.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@Brian-Hansen4 жыл бұрын
As a solo op, the MixPre D (now discontinued) is simply amazing for me. The unit has made my life so much better. My audio has never been so good! So, you guys are spot on with the solo op discussion.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
👍
@MichaelWynneCAS5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis. Very informative info about the new MixPre ii! As a narrative sound mixer who grew into the industry using SD products, it's very interesting to watch Sound Devices evolve into this new company they are becoming. I think the future is bright for SD and I wish them all the best!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, good to hear from you!
@makharacinesy5 жыл бұрын
Excellent initiative ! Having Paul Isaacs on your channel is great.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@LivingSpiritism5 жыл бұрын
Great interview, Curtis. I can't wait to see when you get your hands on one of the new Mixpre II's and do some experiments. When Paul was talking about recording rain drops I was like "Wow... I never thought of that".
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, looking forward to it!
@jaredjaynes5 жыл бұрын
Curtis I got my hands on a mixpre 10 ii, used it on a job yesterday. Very impressive recorder, the float 32 but is brilliant.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared, good to hear!
@BaldurManuel4 жыл бұрын
What bag did you use ?
@380stroker Жыл бұрын
@@BaldurManuelthe ball bag.
@zufarmul2 ай бұрын
such a great interview with insights into finer details of sound work
@curtisjudd2 ай бұрын
🙏
@EposVox5 жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hanapa5 жыл бұрын
Great interview with all topics covered in 46 minutes. Good job and thank you !
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks
@1Patient2 жыл бұрын
That was a good interview and full of excellent information and great questions with design and usage scenarios. Look forward to these types of intervies. Paul was a great interviewee. 👍
@curtisjudd2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@khemistryfilms5 жыл бұрын
I am seriously considering purchasing version II of the Mixpre based on this interview. Very informative and great discussion about timecode and the 32 bit float capability.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks and happy recording exmun!
@TheNorliss5 жыл бұрын
Well, after all this time and all these videos (and specific help and advice from Curtis) I've finally pulled the trigger on a Mixpre-6 II, an Orca-80 bag and a pair of Sony MDR-7506 headphones. Delivery tomorrow 😃🍺
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Cheers! And happy recording!
@creativesymon5 жыл бұрын
It's so impressive how Paul pulls all the detailed info right out of his memory. Clearly passionate about his work and products. I watch other similar vids where the person will "I'll have to look into that" and "I'm not 100% on that" quite a lot. I'm so happy I delayed on my PreMix purchase as I'll now get the 6. That should even be overkill for interviews and corporate vids. But I'll have room for growth.
@creativesymon5 жыл бұрын
Bit of a bummer that Davinci Resolve doesn't handle 32bit float...as he said.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, always great to talk with Paul.
@65Drums5 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that I waited, this generation 2 sounds freaking amazing. I record and review a lot of electronic drum sets in very hurried situations by myself. Loud and soft sounds, so clipping is a real issue for me. At certain conventions I may not even have control of the gain from the module audio they're sending me. This sounds great for those situations
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Great use case for the wide DR!
@cli235 жыл бұрын
Great interview, Curtis! Always love deep dive content and you definitely deliver on that! Can't wait to see your review! Paul if you're reading this - great answers as well! Your depth of knowledge is amazing!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Casey! Good to hear from you!
@paulisaacs59805 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Casey.
@StefanFischerFacilitation3 жыл бұрын
Very useful. It makes those Items even more likable when you know some people behind it.
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
👍
@Thomas-eu6fj7 ай бұрын
What a fantastic interview !!
@curtisjudd7 ай бұрын
😉
@Thomas-eu6fj7 ай бұрын
@@curtisjudd I am a location sound recordist studied film in LA and based in Kerala India, and I watch your Vlogs regularly. Your reviews are some of the best👍💯
@curtisjudd7 ай бұрын
Thanks@@Thomas-eu6fj Keep making great sound!
@JohnKlosner5 жыл бұрын
If like to see how the mix 6ii stacks up against the new zoom f6 once that's released. Can't wait for that comparison!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Me neither. Had no idea I'd have a MixPre II in my hands before the F6. Will definitely do a comparison.
@DavidKfilmmaker5 жыл бұрын
I was all in on the f6...,the girth was kinda odd but was blown away by the 32bit float, could overlook the girth. Several months later...no f6...mixpre ii’s announced..,my mixpre 6 ii arrives 9/25
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidKfilmmaker Yay! Happy recording!
@kyleolson89774 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Yeah, real crazy they just announced and hit market so quickly. I honestly had pre-ordered with the expectation that I would have time to see reviews - and then it shipped. Guess I should have paid attention. That said, super happy to have the thing now.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
@@kyleolson8977 👍
@arthpixels3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! :) It was fantastic to listen to you :)
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@onsiterecording5 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Great product. Definitely in my future. Thanks Curtis and Paul!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zach!
@dimitrisdiavatis94273 жыл бұрын
mind opening! the 32bit float tech was really a new subject for me, now I can say I'm starting to get my head around it. thanks !
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
👍
@mcdebugger5 жыл бұрын
So open! Thank you very much! Pleased to watch!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@theamericanprincecharlesii34115 жыл бұрын
Curtis, you've outdone yourself again! Great job!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Prince Charles!
@khemistryfilms5 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview. Paul was very informative about the product.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks exmun.
@alisaljic4 жыл бұрын
Very useful conversation. Thanx Curtis.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Bad95killer5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get my hand on my Mixpre-3 ii and do some real world test. Curtis, we look forward to a full review of the new series of the Mixpre on your channel ASAP.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Plan on it!
@rickvestuto5 жыл бұрын
I love my Mixpre-3 and use it weekly But I really want a Sound Devices 633 Someday Thanks for this video Regards, Rick
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Totally understand. The MixPre is great and the 633 has some things that make production mixing even easier.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you might want a Sound Devices 833 as of earlier today. ;-)
@rickvestuto5 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Oh My Sweet Thanks for the heads up Curtis Best regards, Rick
@skakdosmer5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, Curtis. Listening to Paul Isaacs is always interesting. By the way, I'm glad I got the MixPre 3M in time, since they don’t make it anymore. The non-M version with the additional music plugin was and is more expensive. And as a Zoom F8 owner I only need the MixPre for music.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@sezzivideo5 жыл бұрын
Wow this looks fab, great interview & perfect timing as my Zoom f8 just died, problem now solved, I can make do until shipping starts in uk.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Good timing, indeed!
@paulisaacs59805 жыл бұрын
Already shipping in the UK!!
@olixize5 жыл бұрын
How your F8 died?
@sezzivideo5 жыл бұрын
Zoom f8 just locked up refused to boot, permanent white screen, I should have my Mix Pre 6 2 in a few days :)
@Bazzie_B5 жыл бұрын
Great talk/interview
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Basil.
@Guitarislife975 жыл бұрын
For the first time I'm glad I don't have enough money at the moment. I was going to save for the mixpre 3, which was a tough choice in regards to the Zoom F6 but now having 32bit recording, TC and other upgrades, I think mixpre 3 II is a definite choice.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@rokr97105 жыл бұрын
is it the exact same thing like the zoom F6? ...look s like.. great interview, thanks. try to download the manual, need to know wether the 3 or 6 have balanced outputs to feed PA speakers for live applications
@przybylskipawel5 жыл бұрын
And I am glad that I don't have enough money for MixPre-10 II. I will have to stick to the Zoom F8, watch my gain and stop dreaming. Just remember that Zoom F6's competitor is not MixPre 3 but MixPre 6. Count the inputs.
@rokr97105 жыл бұрын
true regarding inputs, i meant to ask regarding this 32 bit float technology, wether this is the same like the ZoomF6...
@przybylskipawel5 жыл бұрын
@@rokr9710 But if we are talking about money we have to compare similar devices
@timmyssweet5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if there're any benefits of 32-bit float when using wireless lavalier transmitters? Is there a benefit of using analogue over digital transmitters or could there be in the future? I just noticed that Tentacle has released 32-bit float pocket-sized audio recorder. Would that be a better way to go if, for the large part, the user is only using lavalier mics? Thoughts ...
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Good question. with pretty much any commercially available microphone, and especially lavalier microphones and wireless systems, it will be the microphone and wireless system which will impose the dynamic range bottleneck. My experience is that this is particularly true for wireless and lavaliers. Some of the best lavalier microphones have specs for max 110dB of dynamic range, and that's at the top of the pro-grade lavalier market. I suspect most wireless systems limit dynamic range even further, especially the consumer/prosumer systems.
@savedfaves5 жыл бұрын
Sound Devices equipment is stunning.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@scottvanderbilt12795 жыл бұрын
Clearly the MixPre II series is very impressive. But I have to take issue with the statement by Mr. Isaacs at 7:51, where he says "We're never going to stop developing ... if we release a product, we're not going to stop there." Yeah, well, unless it's a Video Devices product, in which case they definitely will stop there.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Fair point, Scott.
@candyartstv5 жыл бұрын
Yep got burnt myself! I'll be going with zoom on principle!
@Charles-Elie5 жыл бұрын
Now that the Zoom F6 is coming at the same price as the Mix-Pre3 II and they both have 32-bit float, which of the two you would recommend for an indie filmmaker? Mostly doing sound on my own while filming small productions without budget for a sound guy. Thanks for your help!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
My preference is for the MixPre. I'll talk more about that when the MixPre arrives and I put together that review.
@Charles-Elie5 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Awesome, thanks a lot for answering! I'll wait for your review, no rush but I'm considering stepping up my game from my current Zoom H5 at some point
@PDU_Tutorials5 жыл бұрын
I need some MixPre 3 II in my life.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@Photographicelements5 жыл бұрын
The F6 can suck it! (jk); the series ii looks even more amazing! I'm glad they added all the features and combined the M models into one. I actually can't imagine what a series iii will have in store, except the suggestion you made. I'm still not used to upgrading audio recorders every few years; it's interesting that the technology available to manufacturers is what's driving the new models, more so than demand. 32bit will definitely become popular, I can think of at least 100 reasons this year alone, where it would have helped me. I still can't fathom the dynamic range of the series ii. Thanks for this great, in-depth interview!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Photographic elements!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@Bubz of Steel Interesting. You are absolutely right about the wide dynamic range feature only being possible with the multiple A/D converters plus 32-bit float plus processing to effectively combine the output from the multi ADCs. My recollection is that at one point he very clearly articulated that and also referred to the feature multiple times as "wide dynamic range and 32-bit float" rather than just "32-bit". e.g. 4:45
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@Bubz of Steel I share the concern re: people making assumptions about this wide dynamic range feature. I'll try to hit this clarification harder in future videos. Sorry. No misleading intended.
@DavidKfilmmaker5 жыл бұрын
The true benefit of this technology is hearing Curtis try to clip the audio when he does his reviews.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
😜
@giuseppemangione18745 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, looking forward to try the new mixpre 10
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍 Happy recording!
@creativegreatsvisualsАй бұрын
When would the extra 18db be used ? How often have you used the extra db that a recorder like the mixpre 10ii has over the mixpre 6ii? I will be also using the dpa 4017b in the future for outdoor work and dpa 6060
@curtisjuddАй бұрын
I think you’re referring to the addition gain from the fader? Only when needed to boost the levels of a channel in a mix. I haven’t needed that often.
@creativegreatsvisualsАй бұрын
@@curtisjudd when did u need it ?
@hayden32813 жыл бұрын
I see that the mixpre II has its timecode triggered by HDMI. Apart from using a cable, can you use an HDMI transmitter on your camera rig to trigger the timecode?
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hayden, I haven't tried it but I suspect it depends on whether the HDMI transmitter strips the HDMI start/stop flags in the HDMI stream. I'm doubtful that most pass that on. But I could be wrong.
@leanmachttv2 жыл бұрын
25:18 Do i need to change anything in Menu to get the backup recording on SD and USB both? i cant find any Settings for this. Thanks
@curtisjudd2 жыл бұрын
You cannot backup to SD card, just USB.
@mig.artugue3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to send more than one IFB feed from the X1/X2 output? Would a splitter cable work for 2 transmitters?
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
A splitter cable should work, yes.
@mihalydozsa22543 жыл бұрын
Can we jam mixpre II series timecode with the HDMI? For example if i can't keep it on camera because i have everything else fixed in place. Do we have any information on the next gen date? :)
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Jamming via HDMI is not supported. I have no idea when/if a gen 3 is in the works.
@cinerunners2 жыл бұрын
I have the mix pre 6 ii, this is f****** amazing sound
@curtisjudd2 жыл бұрын
👍
@paulfairchild89425 жыл бұрын
I'll watch this video tonight. I hope it helps answers the question as to whether a MixPre Gen 1 owner should upgrade to the Gen 2, and whether the Zoom F6 with its 32-bit float recording AND dual AD converters may be a better bet. I reached out to Sound Devices about whether an upgrade program/option would be available to current MixPre Gen 1 owners and the answer was no. That's a shame given I spent near $1K on a MixPre 6 only 12 months or so ago, and then a new gen is launched very shortly after... Curtis: I ordered your sound prod course, steadily going through it - it's excellent.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, thanks! I think you will find it answers most of your questions, in some cases indirectly. We don’t talk specifically about the Zoom F6 here, but the MixPre Series II also uses multiple converters per channel with its 32-bit float recording.
@paulfairchild89425 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Interesting. Just watched the video, very comprehensive as always. I'll wait for your review, but it looks like we'll upgrade to the II series. We shoot indie films with micro crews and we often have to do the sound ourselves (we're not sound pros) so the 32-bit float could really help us if we get the levels wrong etc. Hope Sennheiser bring this tech to their next gen lav series because I don't think the 32-bit float on the MixPre will help us if our Sennheiser G3s or G4s hit 0db and feed the MixPre an already peaked signal, it'll only help when we boom. The latter will be very helpful but having lavs that use that tech too, wow, that would be great.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, it can help to some degree if you leave a bit more headroom on the feed from the receiver to the MixPre. But yes, I agree, the upstream signal chain needs to support wide dynamic range as well. And wireless will generally struggle with this more than most wired mics with balanced outputs.
@donaldspaulding69735 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't sweat it. It seems the series 2 is only audibly better at extreme dynamic levels. If you're an experienced engineer, it becomes a moot point. Experience will always win over gear!
@mercadofamily74035 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Buying this today!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍 Happy recording!
@morozov.cookie3 жыл бұрын
Paul is the awesome guy! This is was very clear and simple explanation of using 32-bit audio. Of course I want what I need now and for what purpose. Now I need only choose the brand what I want. But with one point I am disagree with him. He told that 32 big audio is good for unpredictable environment (that is true - that is why we shoot in RAW), newbies in sound recording and for anything who not familiar with sound recording, like dp or another person. I am agree with him about environment and maybe about people who not familiar with sound recording or maybe not. But person who want to learn sound recording should also known for which situations 32 bit are good and when regular 24 bit is good enough. It is like photo or video - you can shoot only RAW and fix your work on post production, but in that case you will not be a good photographer or dp. You will be doing your job as well as you could and you also will hope that you can save your shoot on post. After that great interview (again thanks for your great job 👍) I decided that I need F6/MixPre-3 II for uncontrolled environment and ambient recording and F8n/MixPre-10 II for more controlled environment. With my skills, price of products and tons watched reviews I think for me, as a hobbyist, F6 and F8n will be enough for a long long time. But design, functionality and awesome creator of MixPre II series looks so good that I do not know what to do now. May be it is a good idea to spend more money for a little bit great product. I do not know. And nobody could not answer on this question except me. I started to have a lot of confidence in the owner 😄 Anyway good job again 👍
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I choose the MixPre and recording 99% of the time in 24-bit mode. I prefer the MixPre because of its analogue limiters and ergonomics which I prefer over the F6. The F8n is better ergonomically, but I don't care for its digital-hybrid limiters.
@totoroutes53893 жыл бұрын
When will SoundDevices improve their control-App for the MixPre3-mk2 to include gain control for each channel and improve the user Interface design (example: the app for Zoom F6) ?
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Best to request that from them via SD support.
@shingAMarie Жыл бұрын
All things equal, such as recording technique, gainstaging etc, would there be a difference in sound quality, for recording just voices in the context of voiceover, narrations, and room dialogue using the sound devices mixpre-3 II VS Prism Sound Lyra-1 2x2, using these 2 mics sennheiser mkh 416 and the neumann u87 ?
@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын
I haven’t used the Prism Sound Lyra but I’d be surprised if anyone in any audience would notice a difference with spoken word recordings.
@shingAMarie Жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd what about audiophiles 🤓
@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын
@@shingAMarie I bet with a blind test, few audiophiles would be able to tell, but a few might.
@KandMe15 жыл бұрын
This is such good information thank you for the presentation can't thank you enough. A MixPre II exactly what I need
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gregory.
@KandMe15 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Are these made in Australia?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@@KandMe1 I'm not sure where they make the MixPre Series. Their professional 600 series are made in the US. I suspect, but do not know, that the MixPre is made in Asia somewhere.
@KandMe15 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thanks I settled on the Zoom H6 for the time being because of the price and it means I can get setup. Really though the fact it has extra mics attachments including shotgun and some others even one attachment has another two controllers on it and also the battery option, 1.2 volt rechargeable batteries can be used as stated on the Zoom H6 webpage. Can look around for something really good like the MixPre after I see what I can get out of the H6. Seems a good option to start off with give me something to compare others with. Using some Rode wireless Go's with it. Same gain option as the F6, can assign 2 channels to evade clipping if needed in the edit. Also it has Phantom power and is very light weight to carry. No touch screen, 4 inputs: 2 on each side, nice big control knobs. Comes standard with 2 different detachable mic heads in the kit box supplied. The fact that there is also a shotgun mic and another detachable head with two more inputs and a gain controller on it makes this really appealing to me.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@@KandMe1 Very good. Happy recording!
@receptxful5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis and Paul for this great interview. That remix of 32 bit file (pulling down gain) directly in mixpre is great, I was wondering about that. You forgot to ask about automix feature :) Is it even possible to add in 10ii because of its processing? Automix or not I'm buying it next month.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I didn’t forget to ask about automix. That was a topic SD asked not to comment on.
@receptxful5 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Gotcha, thanks 👍
@RallenMan5 жыл бұрын
Curtis Judd Most interesting...
@tomdchi125 жыл бұрын
1. Do you actually need to use 32 bit float to get the "don't worry about initial gain setting" benefit of the internal signal/processing architecture? 2. If I understand the patent correctly (and I may not!), the illustrations show what appear to be not only multiple ADCs, but each ADC being fed off of its own preamp (so, 2 or 3 preamps.) The focus of the patent seems to be the processing of the digital signals after the various ADCs, but if there are multiple pre-amps (each handling a different gain/signal strength range) that seems very important! 2 or more preamps per channel would seem to be a massive advantage over a system with only 1 preamp then feeding multiple ADCs. Any word from Sound Devices if there is one or more than one preamp per channel? 3. Ah - glad to hear that it seems to be a problem with Resolve/Fairlight in handling the 32 bit float sample file, not just operator error! 4. It's great that SD added timecode generation in the 3/6 Series II, but it would have been nice to have just one more 3.5mm jack dedicated to TC in or out to avoid needing another box (e.g. Tentacle) in some situations or having to remember to swap cables around periodically jamming various equipment. Being able to feed a mono mix to one channel of the Aux out and TC to the other channel might help (use a splitter cable?) but the different signal levels (audio vs. TC) might make that impossible?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, 1) Yes, but you also need a capable preamp (or multiple) and 2+ converters, plus effective technology to put it all together post ADC. It is a delicate process. 2) Not sure, Paul didn't specifically address that in our discussion. They generally don't want to give away all of the details. 3) Yes, but I hope they are able to add 32-bit support. I was hoping to move to Fairlight but ended up buying a license for Protools later this week. :-/ 4) Good point, interesting suggestion.
@paulisaacs59805 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this answers your question re TC, but the Stereo out can be switched between TC out & audio out and the Aux In can be switched between line in and TC in. You can switch to TC in, jam the MixPre-II, then switch back to audio for extra audio inputs whilst retaining accurate timecode internally which can be output via the stereo out switched to TC. If you want dedicated TC I/O without switching then the MixPre-10 II is the best bet.
@jeffsheriko5 жыл бұрын
You'd think the Sound Devices guy might plug in a mic for an interview...
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
I was just happy we were able to get him on the channel.
@jeffsheriko5 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjuddI'm just teasing. I'm glad you got to talk. Great interview. A little bitter that I bought a mixpre 10t a month before it was discontinued, though.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsheriko understood.
@andrewp15134 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ab-cx6bd4 жыл бұрын
jeffsheriko same with me, however ive had it for a while, but i ended up getting an 833 as well so that took a bit of the edge off the bitterness 🤪
@jasonnakai47005 жыл бұрын
Trying really hard to not be upset about this roll-out. Don't get me wrong-- I love my mix pre10T, but dismayed that I paid full price only back in April. I guess I just need to work extra days to get this mixer and sell my old one? Either way, I love your information Curtis, and your host is such a great guy. Another awesome show!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
I understand. I'm pretty heavily invested, too. Thanks!
@bobbystefano4 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis-when you recorded this, is the sound recorded on to the camera?
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bobby, my Sound was routed to the Panasonic GH5, yes.
@bobbystefano3 жыл бұрын
Curtis Judd Hi Curtis. Sorry I am so lame here. So the path is microphone to sound devices pre to camera? Is there an output from the mix pre-to the camera? What cable did you use for that? So the sound is being recorded on the cameras SD card? Thanks for your help
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbystefano Hi Bobby - correct. You could also record the sound separately and sync it to the video in post. But in this case, I just recorded with the following signal chain: Microphone via XLR cable to MixPre. Output 3.5mm stereo mini jack cable from MixPre to Panasonic GH5 3.5mm microphone input. Camera recorded video and sound from MixPre. That's just a standard 3.5mm TRS stereo minijack cable.
@1201alarm2 ай бұрын
Sadly, I had to send my MixPre-3 back because it was impossible to find a battery solution. I record life history interviews for a museum archive, in sessions usually lasting no longer than 2-hours at a time. I couldn't get the beautifully-built Sound Devices recorder to run longer than about 20 minutes even with the highest capacity batteries. The retailer confirmed that the unit was not faulty, but simply is not designed for field recording. Such a shame, I have to rely on Tascam, Roland, and Zoom, none of which reaches the sonic quality of Sound Devices' products.
@curtisjudd2 ай бұрын
There's a nuance here: It is NOT designed to run on disposable alkaline AA batteries. You really need to use rechargeable N-MH or Lithium batteries. The user documentation is clear on this. Thanks for bringing it up. People need to know this!
@jeli7803 жыл бұрын
Which microphones would you recommend for mix pre 6 mk2? Mostly for foley sound recording?
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
The Sennheiser MKH416 is a classic.
@jeli7803 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thank you Curtis! Your videos are amazing!
@RafickBottse4 жыл бұрын
hey curtis i got the mix pre 3 ii what do i have to to sync timecode with the bmpcc4k im very new with this can you help me out?
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rafick, you'll need a stereo mini jack cable. On the MixPre, you set the aux output to timecode. You also need to set the framerate you're shooting on your camera in the MixPre's timecode menu. Those are the basics. Best wishes!
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Clarification: In the output menu, change the Stereo Out Mode to timecode. I posted an Series II New Features overview video at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsxhmpCVxrjKpWg.html
@creativegreatsvisuals3 ай бұрын
Do you think the mixpre 6ii is ok for the red Komodo ,c70 and Panasonic s5ii and the deity Theos ,dpa 6060 , Schoeps cmc1 mk41 with cut 30 capsule or will the 18db in the mixpre10ii be needed ? Does the mixpre10ii produce less noise than the mixpre6ii?
@curtisjudd3 ай бұрын
The MixPre-6II should be good, yes. The preamps and converters are the same in the 10 from what I can tell. The main advantages of the 10 are more inputs and balanced outputs.
@creativegreatsvisuals3 ай бұрын
@@curtisjudd the mixpre6ii does not have balanced outputs ? What kinda things are balanced outputs used for ?
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions2 ай бұрын
@@creativegreatsvisuals For cameras or mixers or other downstream devices with balanced inputs.
@creativegreatsvisuals2 ай бұрын
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions so for c70 and red Komodo when will I need to do balanced outputs with mixpre 6ii for corporate video work ? I like size of mixpre6ii but I’m concerned about if it’s unbalanced output will be an issue and effect the quality of sound .
@LearnLightAndSoundSessions2 ай бұрын
@@creativegreatsvisuals Balanced audio is simply more immune to picking up interference in your audio. It doesn't sound better than unbalance audio, necessarily, just more immune to picking up RF and EMF (hums, buzz, clicking, etc.)
@cmiller72994 жыл бұрын
Definitely bummed the 3 doesn't have TRS connectors. As a videographer having that in the Zoom H5 really helps minimize the cables and adapters I have to carry around.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
The combo jacks take considerably more internal space so I suspect there just was not room unless they made the overall unit larger.
@Graham_Wood3 жыл бұрын
That was very intuitive. On the strength of that interview (and your reviews) I've ordered the MixPre 3 ii and a Rode NTG4+ mic. Quite excited really. Syncing 2 cameras will have to be done the hard way for now coz I'm going to be eating beans on toast every night for the next month until I recover from the financial outlay.....lol. I feel like a martyr to the cause but hey... the results will be worth it....
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new recording kit and happy recording! Beans and toast have never tasted so good, I'm sure. 😉
@Graham_Wood3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thanks so much. Beans on toast is small sacrifice for what's to come..........lol
@lpseem37705 жыл бұрын
That hardware is waaay outside my league, but it's good to know what's available.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@BobbyWashingtonvlog4 жыл бұрын
Curtis, will anyone of these Mix Pre units be substantial for my feature film I’m presenting to Netflix?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Substantial? The MixPre will certainly get the job done nicely.
@Sheriffvlogs3 жыл бұрын
Is the mix pre 2 the same as the mix pre 3 or is it just the hole name of the product line 3 6 and 10t just want to confirm thanks .
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
The II Series is the product line. The models are the 3, 6, and 10.
@Sheriffvlogs3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd thanks again
@leelundkim40695 жыл бұрын
When the F6 was announced, I predicted that SD would drop the price of their Mix-Pre Series within 6 months. Not only did they do so, they released a new generation!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Though they've been working on it for 4 years, it appears. :-D
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@Bubz of Steel Spot on!
@leelundkim40695 жыл бұрын
The timing is strategically perfect. I’m not suggesting this was reactively designed and manufactured, but its perfectly placed release and announcement clearly was a response on some level to market pressure. If you read the page on the product, it sounds very much like they are signaling to the consumer that the gen 2 mix pre’s will do everything the F6 does.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@@leelundkim4069 Makes sense. 👍
@tm84734 жыл бұрын
hi, Curtis. There's an hirose or d-tap adapter for the mixpre 6? The lack of a decent power port is not understandable by me. What are the expected recording time in a 4ch+48v configuration with 4 AAs (Ni-MH)?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Hi toxic mela, there's a USB-C input for the MixPre-3 and 6 which you can use to power the unit with a USB-C PD power bank. The MixPre-10 has a hirose input. With 4 new Ni-MH AAs, I'd expect somewhere around 2 hours of powering time. Hawk-Woods makes an alternate battery sled with a hirose input if you're not comfortable with USB-C as the power input. Bit of an expense but then you're only limited by the capacity of your cine or smart batteries.
@tm84734 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd oh thankyou! That's exactly what i'm looking for!
@TheBasCast5 жыл бұрын
Hey Curtis, what are those cables called you use to connect the MixPre10 II to a camera with standart XLR inputs? Thanks a lot!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi bas, just XLR patch cables. In the case of the 10 II, you need TA3F to XLRM cables like this: bhpho.to/2hCXkLL
@JJ_Khailha4 жыл бұрын
Question. Does the Mixpre 3 need to be continuously tethered to the Nikon Z6 for timecode to function on the camera or can it be synced then both the camera and recorder can be untethered?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Hi yes and no depending. There are two main options since the Z6 does NOT have a dedicated timecode input or internal timecode clock. 1) Tethered throughout shoot from MixPre 3.5mm output to Z6 microphone input. 2) Purchase an external timecode generator. Jam sync the timecode generator to the MixPre-3 then disconnect and attach the timecode generator to the Z6 for the duration of the shoot. In post, because the Z6 only has a microphone input, all of the video clips must have their audio converted to metadata timecode using an app like Tentacle Sync Studio. In theory, DaVinci Resolve can do the conversion but I have found that conversion to be unreliable with Z6 footage. Tentacle Sync Studio was able to reliably convert and sync Z6 footage to MixPre audio clips.
@FelipeZambranog3 жыл бұрын
Can i connect another SD mixpre II as a an input extension ?
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Sure, any mixer, but then you’re working with a sub mix.
@DASwealth2 ай бұрын
Is the mark 3 coming out soon? Don’t know if I should buy a used mixpre 3 ii for $650
@curtisjudd2 ай бұрын
No idea.
@DrHansBrewery5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Curtis. I can understand why but....it seems like the Zoom F6 should have been mentioned by you. That would have been interesting.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
That comes in a separate video.
@majemichaelsaba2685 жыл бұрын
Would this be overkill to use for a podcast? Cheers.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
No, I’d say this is perfect for podcasting.
@hanlintian25814 жыл бұрын
nice!Curtis,but I'd like to know whether the shell of mixtre II is made of metal or plastic, because after testing, I found that my deity connect wireless system would interfere with the equipment of plastic shell 报错双语对照
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hamlin Tian, the case is die cast aluminum.
@hanlintian25814 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much.By the way, I think it's necessary to tell you why I want to ask this. You know, the deity hd-tx wireless recording system. I bought this system and used it with the zoom h6 recorder with plastic shell. I found that when the deity wireless receiving device is close to the H6 recorder, it will produce strong electromagnetic interference to the recording. After testing, I found that it will also interfere with zoom H4n tape recorder with plastic shell. I hope that the equipment with metal shell can solve this problem. Or if you are interested in this issue, I would like to discuss it with you. I am engaged in film and television production in mainland China. My email is betseywootent@gmail.com
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
I have not run into interference issues with my MixPre-3 II, MixPre-6, MixPre-10T, or MixPre-10 II. I hope that helps!
@ArchWayE5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I would love to do a scene with the beauty of soft raindrops and then the clap of thunder. Brilliant example of wide dynamic range! I learned adjusting gain is like adjusting ISO on a camera sensor right?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
👍
@BryanDumaguina5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis! Thanks Paul! I guess I'll be waiting for the Gen 3 version!
@Sethmotley5 жыл бұрын
Why not Gen 4😏
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Ok. 👍
@Sethmotley5 жыл бұрын
Curtis Judd I bought the MixPre 3 about 3 weeks ago from Sweetwater and they let me exchange it for version 2 and it’s a beast 👍🏾
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@@Sethmotley 👍
@rustycalvera9775 жыл бұрын
nice interview...very informative
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rusty
@adamw4495 жыл бұрын
Hey Curtis, from your perspective given a choice of F6 vs MixPre3 II, which one would you choose? From my point of view ergonomics is more important than channels (hardly ever use more than 2, never needed 4), and in my workflow I use "slate" functionality on my current DR-60 II extensively to mark good/bad takes/voice-notes to myself, as "marks" in BWF file seem not to appear in Fairlight. I always do continous recording, as it is easier to sync with video in post. Or maybe do you have other practice to add those marks to the recording?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Kraka, Personal opinion: I would choose the MixPre-3 II for my work. I agree that ergonomics are critically important. I don't use markers extensively, but I thought Fairlight recognized the track names I applied to each input channel in my MixPre.
@talkingbird75292 жыл бұрын
Great interview. What is the replacement for SD702 ?
@curtisjudd2 жыл бұрын
In 2022 it is the 833.
@JuusoHoo5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for both of you, how about converting 32bit to 24bit, is it possible for older (Logic...) DAW?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
You can just record in 24-bit if you choose. I noticed that DaVinci Resolve 16 was able to use 32-bit files but treated them like 24 bit so if the amplification was driven too hard, they were clipped permanently, just like 24 bit. Audacity could be used to convert from 32 to 24 bit if needed.
@Achimotastar5 жыл бұрын
Still, love my 1st gen mixpre 3.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Me too with the first gen 10T
@KarlSadler4 жыл бұрын
this is great and really useful, thanks
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karl.
@gifoda75054 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of purchasing the new mixpre 10t II but I have always been a fader kinda guy so I was just wondering if any controller could allow me to actually control the levels that is actually recorded in the iso tracks not just the stereo mix tracks
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Faders are traditionally for controlling how much of channel’s signal is sent to the stereo mix. I don’t know if any where the fader controls the iso recording level. But you can put the MixPre into basic or custom modes where the channel knob controls gain trim and DOES affect the iso level.
@johnmellor9324 жыл бұрын
I have a question. How do you get a 32bit float file from the recorder into a DAW without rendering it clipped? Because 32bit float can only exist internally right? So in a DAW I would have to have a session set to 32bit to prevent the file being rendered?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
When you open the 32-bit float file in a DAW, the DAW recognizes the bit depth and opens it as such, at least ProTools and Audition. Is there a particular DAW you’re considering?
@johnmellor9324 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd oh I'm a pro tools user, have been for years. But Ive never recorded in 32bit before, I understand the concept. Ive seen it done in a DAW before but it was recorded in the DAW, Im just trying to understand how you get a wav file from a field recorder to a DAW that was recorded in 32bit because you can't export a 32bit file, it has to be 24bit any clipping is rendered. So im assuming that you can transfer 32bit files from the recorder into a DAW and it will just work? Thanks.
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s correct. Here are some samples I recorded on the 10 II and then brought into Audition: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btKCidF-tJeYm2w.html
@Wolfihouse5 жыл бұрын
great human conversation. shame that no question was asked about automix feature for mixpre. Yes I now Dugan is licensed but 6t33-688 you can choose their Soundevices version Automix, like Studer Vistamix or Lawo Automix on broadcast consoles. They don’t need pay for the licenses.... Q2: new Mixpre 10T II does have really strong analog Outputs on miniXLR for sending audio to Pro cameras (Line In level mode) Thanks 😀
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
It was asked. Response was no comment.
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Covered the outputs on the 10 II. +18dB.
@krahnosdragon5 жыл бұрын
I have a question. It is mentioned that 32-bit float isn't available in Musician Mode. That seems to me to limit the usefulness of such a powerful feature. To give my use case, I record a lot of classical music, which as you might imagine requires a ton of dynamic range. Admittedly, my use case is probably not in the majority, but I feel like the whole point of my upgrading from my 6M has been defeated if 32 bit float cannot work in Musician Mode. Am I an outlier on this one? Thanks for all you do!
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Krahnos, I suspect that is partly due to the fact that musician mode places more demand on the processing power of the device as you have to be able to play back audio at the same time as recording - overdubbing. On the new series II, wouldn't you be recording classical music in regular mode since you're not overdubbing? In that case, you most certainly could use the wide dynamic range capabilities.
@krahnosdragon5 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd You could be right in that it would be a higher processing load. I kind of like the interface of Musician's Mode since I'm not doing a ton of takes, and I haven't really required the time code generation either. It's probably a non-issue in the end. It just struck me as odd, that's all. Thanks for your reply :)
@OAK77uk3 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis (live in UK) I'm considering purchasing a Mix Pre 3 II or Mix Pre 6 II and seeing the Ambisonics potential can I use my original Soundfield ST-250 Mic and get back a 'B' Format split to the 4 Channels for editing. I don't have the 'B' Format unit that was available when purchased in 1990 - the Mic is in exceptional condition and used rarely but mainly for SFX and Atmos Gathering. Much appreciate you advise and just to say - you really provide excellent reviews - I've listened to so many and find myself in between the in-between on what to do: at my age I'm unlikely (but not necessarily) to be working back with film crews, I also used to Interview and also the Audio as well as having a 30 plus year Atmos gathering library and am not blessed with having unlimited funds. Currently I still have my Tascam HD-P2 - Roland R-26 for location plus regular Studio audio units including my original HHB MD unit - the Location DAT and Tape Recorders now long gone to pastures untold. I do miss those days and how we coped but I also want to be able to put my Music to work so I also need to be able to multitrack on the unit. Look forward to hearing from you. Once again thanks for any help and your previous responses. Michael / OAK77uk /TouchwoodMusic.com - not sure if you're on Twitter but I do ReTweet your Video's hoping this may help please link if you are on Twitter/OAK77uk
@curtisjudd3 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, great to hear from you again! I'm not familiar with the ST-250 or ambisonics record just yet, but hope to give it a go before too much longer. I'd probably recommend you have a look at the FAQs and specs over on the Sound Devices site for the Ambisonics plugin: store.sounddevices.com/product/ambisonics-plugin/ and then also contact their support channel to make sure it is compatible. Best wishes and keep making great sound!
@hansjalbertsson77365 жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell from the patent, the multi-adc high dynamic range ADC system used by Sound Devices can use 2 or 3 or more 24 bit base ADCs. How many such 24 bit base ADCs do SD avtually use in the mixpre-6 and mixpre-10 mkII?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Not sure. My experience has been that they generally do not share those details, considering it proprietary, competitive advantage information.
@stephanes.2 жыл бұрын
I think they are still working on the mark III !
@curtisjudd2 жыл бұрын
Could be!
@ottoknaus21945 жыл бұрын
Hello Curtis, For some of us Indi operators please, how do we now choose btw say a new DS 833 and the new MixPre6 mk2 with what seems an awesome 32bit floating thingy going on seemingly making foolproof audio possible. Thank you in advance for your reply. Disregarding the cost difference. Regards Otto
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Otto, There are several pro level features on the 833 which aren't necessary for most indie operators, but each individual needs to choose for themselves. Here are the highlights: 1) Extremely flexible routing with buses. When on a film set with a larger crew, you often have to run multiple outputs to camera and IFBs. Some IFBs may need different mixes. 2) Automix - if you record panel discussions or podcasts and need to turn it around quickly or live broadcast, this feature can be very helpful. Not available on the MixPre 3) Digital AES in and out. Useful for recording audio from AES microphones and feeding already digitized audio to cameras which can receive it, thus bypassing the camera's preamp and AD converter altogether. 4) 3 band EQ (beyond just a high pass filter) 5) Ability to run external control surface and USB keyboard at the same time for cart mixing If none of these apply to your situation, the MixPre is a great choice. It also offers the wide dynamic range recording which is NOT on the 833.
@ottoknaus21945 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Mate thank you for your solid and clear reply.
@DeethaDon5 жыл бұрын
Is it worth it to upgrade from the 1st Gen?
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
If the new features covered here will solve problems for your type of work, then yes.
@kirkr.74645 жыл бұрын
Ugh. So if I use a PC Laptop without a USB-C port, I cannot power a Mixpre3 II to use it as an interface? Thanks for the useful video btw.
@paulisaacs59805 жыл бұрын
You can power from USB-A but you might be limited to features only allowed in MixPre Low Power mode unless you use the dual USB-A to USB-C cable. User Guide explains all!
@kirkr.74645 жыл бұрын
@@paulisaacs5980 I don't see these dual USB-A cables readily available on Amazon.. Can I get one from Sound Devices, since they no longer ship with the unit..? Thanks Paul.
Will the MixPre-3/6 ii be able to do timecode passthrough? If I have two GH5's and I am feeding timecode from GH5 #1 to the mixpre3-ii, could the timecode be passed through and be fed into the microphone in jack of GH5 #2? This kind of setup could permit multi-cam with timecode with no additional timecode generators. I don't have my Mixpre-3 yet to try this out (if it is even possible.)
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Hi Trevor, I’m not sure, mine hasn’t arrived yet.
@paulisaacs59805 жыл бұрын
At this time, that is not possible to loop through HDMI TC. You can loop through SMPTE LTC though.
@thegungroup28184 жыл бұрын
Does the Re-Mix feature work in all modes or just when originally recording in 32bit floating?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
All modes.
@MM-hx8ws5 жыл бұрын
Curtis, now we need a MixPre-10 II vs Zoom F8n video! Help!
@KarolWalkowski5 жыл бұрын
No we don't ;) There's absolutely no reason why anyone would choose Zoom instead of SD
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
Will cover that once I've had some time with the MixPre 10 II.
@Dustbrigade5 жыл бұрын
Karol Walkowski Only one reason. Automix ;)
@curtisjudd5 жыл бұрын
@@Dustbrigade Well, there is also price and wide dynamic range and better headphone amp on the MixPre and XLR outs with more output on the MixPre and a few others. But Zoom definitely has the edge in the Automix world which can be important if you record a lot of panel discussions or interviews and need a quick turn-around without a lot of post work. 😀
@Dustbrigade5 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd For sure! I think that Mixpre has the edge with everything apart from the automix
@nickpavlou50234 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis. Thanks for the great video. At 14:18, is Paul saying that someone can hide the unexpected sound of a plane flying overhead when recording with the 32-bit float? Is he therefore saying that you can still record indoor dialogue and keep it, even if a plane flies overhead during the actual talking?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, Paul was referring to the fact that you wouldn't run into issues with the very loud airplane clipping the audio when recording in 32-bit float mode.
@nickpavlou50234 жыл бұрын
@@curtisjudd Thanks very much Curtis!! You're very helpful!!
@episnod4 жыл бұрын
What about the M models? Does the software plugin create a mark II "M"?
@curtisjudd4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but you still get the filmmaking mode as well.