Ep. 41 How Snare Wire Count Affects Sound

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Ep. 41 How Snare Wire Count Affects Sound

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5 жыл бұрын

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As a follow up to Ep. 39 where we talked about snare beds, this week is about the extreme ends of the spectrum for snare wire count- from 16 all the way to 42 strand wires, and how the snare wire count affects the sound and behavior of your drum.
Wires used for this video were the Puresound Concert 16-strand and Gibralter 42-strand wires on a 60's Ludwig Acrolite with Evans UV1 batter and Snare Side 200.
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@camdendebruin6667 5 жыл бұрын

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That's something I really don't like about some channels. Clickbaiting with most stuff is just annoying, but I feel it's a bit different with regards to music. When you go to a video to learn about music, and then you are lied to, it feels to me like a teacher trying to manipulate and take advantage of me. I think it's especially gross to deceive people innocently trying to learn.

@gabrielcruz3997 4 жыл бұрын

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@TheCollisionMusic Жыл бұрын

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@tonybouma6745 5 жыл бұрын

With so much questionable advice out there, it is nice to find a channel that actually gets it right time after time! "Sound Like A Drum" is easily the best source for online tuning/teching tutorials.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tony! We're really aiming to provide actionable insights into the world of drum sounds based on experience and expertise. Cheers! -Ben

@Andrew3154 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 1967 (When I bought it) Gretsch chrome on brass snare with 42 wire snares. Several sound engineers have said the love the sound. I have replaced the original wires. It’s my pride and joy of all my snares.

@ikon8275 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like an awesome snare!

@alexgarza4513 8 ай бұрын

Is that the 4160 COB? I have it too. Mine is vintage from the 70s, i tried a 2015 edition of it and the vintage one sounded wayy better. Same heads and snares too even haha

@davidreidy5750 Жыл бұрын

I always wanted to know what 42s sounded like...sticking with 16's.This channel is my nerdgeekness.🤖📼⚡

@jkanusky 5 жыл бұрын

I dig that Cody uses so many old Ludwig drums for these videos. I own and play 50's & 60's era Ludwig drums. Your drums sound familiar. Almost like home. I enjoy applying these lessons to my own drums. These old tubs now perform at their best. Dig it, Cody. I believe, one day, these videos will become legendary in the drumming community. They already have. Thanks fellas.

@davidcudlip6587 2 жыл бұрын

I play a Slingerland Krupa model snare drum from the late 60's. You're right though. Those older snare drums have a cool vibe. So many iconic recordings made with those era drums.

@jamesvanminnen2676 3 жыл бұрын

So appreciate your technical, experienced and well-expressed angle as ever. I've watched this video before and just got a set of 42 strand wires, was having EXACTLY the problem you elucidate (choked plus jangly sound), and came back here... and now I know what to do! Thank you so much! There is hope now of making the snare I HAVE work, rather than forking our money I don't need to spend right now! Gratitude bombs comin at ya from South Africa!

@Mike-oz5pp Жыл бұрын

Can't get enough of this channel! Cody is like my idol anymore. I've learned SO much about sound, my sound, snare wires & how diff ones affect ur sound. Thanks Cadence, Cody & everyone involved 👍

@cj_m2477 5 жыл бұрын

I just tried 12 Strand Ludwig wires on my 6.5 Copper Phonic and I’m thrilled with the sound. It’s surprising how much snare sound you can get from a 12 strand set. On the other hand, I have a late 70’s 6.5 Gretsch and tried a 42 strand set of wires and it sounds great. Snare beds like the Holland tunnel.

@jjoneski2203 3 жыл бұрын

What experienced drummer will believe a 12 strand sounds like a happening snare drum? Wow.

@mat4410 Жыл бұрын

I’ve recently started to listen to your presentations more closely lately and”my goodness” I’m hearing myself talk back to me! Not at all boring or coming from a “ hey, yeah dude” facilitator. Intelligent delivery “bruh.”

@yoashuain1 4 жыл бұрын

Swapped my 20 out for a 40...crazy! Less buzz and Tom cross resonance, on top of a sharper snare sound. Killer for lower tuned snare drums with a deadening ring. Love it!!!

@revup67 3 жыл бұрын

With respect to the 42 strand wide snares, I would estimate around 1974 or so is when Gretsch pushed this concept. I recall this vividly and went to our local music store to inquire. A friend of mine had a Gretsch set and went this route when it was broadly announced. Many of my other percussionist friends went this route as well as myself changing over from 20 to 42 on a 5.5 x 14" acrylic Fibes snare and a chrome 6.5 x 14" Fibes snare. The sound was impressive indeed. As you accurately point out, it was a lot more snare sound. I recall when the snares were loosened in Off mode, I'd adjust the snare plastic straps/or strings to the reso head just a minute distance (about an 1/8th of an inch evenly on both sides) vs. hanging. This prevented the necessity for over tightening/torquing the snare control knob. My snare strands rarely if ever popped. The factory strings that are equipped with the snare strand might not always be the best as they add a small degree of separation from the reso head. To minimize this gap further, a fishing line with a higher pound pull or even dental floss might be an option to experiment with.

@carlupthegrove4201 7 ай бұрын

I just bought a 8" deep Yamaha Recording Custom snare that had 42 strand wires swapped out. I liked the sound but tried your tuning 'trick' and WOW now I really like the sound......thanks

@TNHRocks 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Sonor 14x5.25 Gavin Harrison Protean snare drum. It uses 8 strand wires. It also comes with a copper set and brass set in different configurations. I thought I wouldn’t like them but I couldn’t be happier with the tone and articulation you get with only 8 strands! I used your recommendation on leveling the snare side head with a ruler and have had great results! Thank you for your dedication

@Senzenfrenz Жыл бұрын

Theres a video of that Gavin Harrison Signature Snare where he himself explains the purpose of having a set of three 8 wire Strands to choose from. Really interesting. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z96aqKugvsC8pI0.html

@videobrains 5 жыл бұрын

I have a mid-70s Pearl steel snare (#4515) which never seemed to open up. But when I put in 42's, it finally came alive. True it kind of compresses the sound of the drum when you really lean into it, due to the sheer weight of more strands. But in sonically dry environments and at low to moderate playing levels, the extra sustain of the snares helps give the drum a "happy" character. My other snares (13", 12", 10") are all on thinner "normal" wires though, and I have no plans of changing them because they sound fine as is.

@stevedirocco1 3 жыл бұрын

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@dodo13500 Жыл бұрын

Ditto!!!!

@DirtySk8RatStaney 5 жыл бұрын

I made my own snare using a mapex 8x14 snare shell, and all dw hardware and a set of 42 strand wires. The shell was a 6ply maple shell, and I sticker bombed it before I put it all together. I LOVE it!! It sounds great, and with the dw mag throw off and 3p butt plate I can get a few different snare sounds. Oh and to finish it off I put the pdp wood hoops on it. All together ive got like $450 in it, but it sounds like a drum worth double that. I also have a set of 20 strands I can throw on it too, but after I put the 42's on it I haven't taken em off.

@dalekay9ine 3 ай бұрын

I love the idea of thinking of the snare wires as just another form of dampening, I had never considered that fact. Love this channel so much, my drums have never sounded better!

@JonnyJayJonson 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, thank you! The thing I've taken away from this, most of all, is that rather than changing components (heads/snare bed/hoops, etc), I need to get a better understanding of how to use what I already have. I've found a huge difference in my snare sound if I don't fit the snare bed correctly.

@bacobill 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for another great video.. I learned the hard way about matching the width of the snares to the bed.. oops.. On my 13" I ended up getting the PureSound 'double-wound' which is basically 40 wires within a couple of inches wide.. absolutely love it.. somewhat 'brash' perhaps and it takes some experimenting regarding tension.. They are closer to that vintage sound than any other (non-gut) snares that I have tried.

@garyleegomez8670 Жыл бұрын

I switched stock snares (20 strand) to PureSound 30 strand on my Pearl Limited Edition Birch snare drum 5 1/2"x14". Love the change and sound and like y'all said just fuss with the adjustment a little. And yes, larger number of snare wires does change sound And feel.

@franktatom1837 5 жыл бұрын

Good video. I recently purchased several older Ludwig drums that had 12 strand concert snare wires, and have noted that there is much less buzz from electric bass and guitar when I play live music using them in a confined stage area. If snare buzz is a problem in that situation, I think it might help to go with fewer wires. I don't notice any significant reduction in "snap" with fewer wires, however.

@porroman3d106 5 жыл бұрын

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@yeyed6286 5 жыл бұрын

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@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 5 жыл бұрын

or, about 2 minutes in...

@morricm3 4 жыл бұрын

Dude does talk way to much

@blujay2084 3 жыл бұрын

yep .. immediate comparison .. back to back .. listen to B while A is still fresh in your ears .. this is a great drum channel

@jamessholtz6016 Жыл бұрын

I began playing drums in 1965-66. That being said - this channel gives drummers so much practical information that drummers can use. Kudos!

@TheCamperBowler 4 жыл бұрын

I'll be honest with you guys. This sounded great conceptually, but I didn't fully believe the trick about raising the reso head to mitigate rattle on 42 strand wires. I tried it and it worked. A drastic difference. This channel is a wealth of awesome and usable information. Thanks, guys!

@djsnowman06 3 жыл бұрын

When i used to march snare in cadets, we had a mashup of different snare drums. We had a drum put together that had a super tight pipe drum batter head and 42 snares on it. That thing was awesome the Lead snare player would always grab that one.

@edwardvanwormer6993 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip about tightening the lugs to flatten out the snares. What an improvement!!

@abeldork 5 жыл бұрын

hell yea man, i just bought the 40's on a whim and i said to myself "fuck it" and got a ebony head for a snare of mine. I had it at such a perfect tuning, then of course i tried fixing what wasn't broken and lost the sound lol. wish me luck in trying to find it again!

@cnncomedy4751 5 жыл бұрын

Dude, that's the fucking worst when that happens.

@blujay2084 3 жыл бұрын

Don't lose hope. I bought my Supraphonic used in 1973 and it sounded just great. I'm confident that I can get that same sweet sound back any day now.

@bradleyamerica941 2 жыл бұрын

Hard relate

@carlosalbertogomez1391 5 жыл бұрын

40-42 snare wires can be very useful in case you have a "not so good" snare drum.it can add more bottom end and more definition for ghost notes and rolls.and since is wider,it can be like a little bit of dampening in case you have some unwanted overtones.of course,maybe you will have to make some adjustements to achieve the sound you're aftter.but if you're on a budget,this will improve any cheapo snare.good video !!

@Chiroman527 Жыл бұрын

Question: If I use 40-42 Snare wires , will there be more Snare Buzz when hitting Toms?

@Senzenfrenz Жыл бұрын

@@Chiroman527 In general and depending on physics I'd say definitely yes, at least a little more, but would suggest to compare the different setup on the individuell Drumset, maybe it's actually not such a big deal

@andyham6094 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve always thought 42 was overkill BUT I bought a Tama SLP Black Brass snare and it came with 42 strands and it sounds so good and beefy and it’s not too jingly with the tiniest bit of vibration. It really depends on the drum itself. The slp Black brass works perfect with the 42s, I usually never change out the snare wires and keep it with what Tama puts on it and I’ve always liked how each Tama snare came. The slp dynamic bronze sounds great, the slp g bubinga sounds great, and the slp Black brass sounds great.

@Assimilator702 5 жыл бұрын

Andy Ham I have all those snares except the SLP Bronze.....but I have an SLP Acrylic and SLP G Walnut. Tama knows what they’re doing. I just slapped a 30 strand Puresound Custom on my 1988 Artstar Birch and I think that might be too wide for that what seems to be a narrow snare bed. I didn’t get to lay into it yet but I had to whack it fairly hard for the wires to get moving. Might have to go back to the 20 strands. Merry Christmas guys. Once again.....excellent video with nice in depth analysis.

@frankspikes4867 5 жыл бұрын

I have a pdp maple shell with maple hoops snare. It has 42 strand wires. Tuned tight, almost choked. Super crisp, sharp, and cutting.

@AlexDrums97 4 жыл бұрын

I've got the SLP, too. I was considering buying 20 strand wires but also know that on other snare drums they sound to airy compared to when you're used to 42s. I've noticed the wires got a bit ringy after time so I'mma get the new Tama carbon 42s with those gold endplates that came out.

@ricklieffering241 2 жыл бұрын

I use the 42's on a Tama Artstar 2 snare and it sounds great. I love the extra buzz and sort of extra noise/reverb in the sound. They do indeed might choke the drum a bit, but all in all I think they are great for a fat rock/metal sound.

@ibleebinU 4 жыл бұрын

It seems that Gretsch was/is big on the 42 strand snare wires. My bronze snare came with them. I didn't like them so off they came and I put 20 strand on. This has become my favorite metal snare drum, as opposed to brass, aluminum or steel. Great videos!

@Mrcastleskeep 5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff! I have the Gibraltar 42 wire on my snare. I've always had to fight it to get it to sound good when I take them off to clean it or replace the snare side head. Spent about an hour playing with tuning to get it to sound good last weekend. I'm definitely going to try your advice on tuning it.

@bobdadruma 4 жыл бұрын

I bought a 65 Slingerland Artist snare drum and it came with a 40 strand snare. I never even wasted my time playing the drum with them on it. I installed new heads and a 20 strand set of wires.

@tmaddrummer 5 жыл бұрын

I've used a 42 strand set of wires with wood hoops on my Ludwig Acrolite for quite a few years! Another great informative and educational video! CHRISTmas Blessings Y'all!!!

@MetalxMasters 5 жыл бұрын

Always hated it when drummers went out of their way to deaden the snares. It's not a snare if you can't hear the snares imo.

@remoevans2793 4 жыл бұрын

I always hated when drummers think their way of tuning, muffling, setup, playing, etc is the only way it should be done.

@MetalxMasters 4 жыл бұрын

@@remoevans2793 You do you, man. It's just an opinion! :D

@hectorguarin3580 3 жыл бұрын

Michael Jackson's drummer tune his snare. He wants to hear just a little buzz and he tune his batter head until he can't turn the tuning lugs anymore. Larry Blackmon thought him that.

@hectorguarin3580 3 жыл бұрын

He also uses wide strainers 40 or 42

@loganlamons5373 5 жыл бұрын

Super helpfull video! I use 42 strand wires on a couple of my snares and after changing a snare side head, it always takes me a while to get the snare to sound the way I want it to sound. Now I'll be starting from a place where I have more knowledge!

@argerm57 4 жыл бұрын

Love that Bob Ross T-shirt, man. Very funny, and so true.

@BumpNrun69 4 жыл бұрын

lol, at first I couldn't tell if it was Bob or Sammy Hagar, the "Trees" gave it away.

@benn_bazaa 3 жыл бұрын

@@BumpNrun69 ok

@theantiantihero 4 жыл бұрын

Another important consideration with drumset is how much sympathetic buzz you're willing to tolerate when you play your toms and bass drum. Obviously, wider snare wires will tend to buzz more, all other things being equal.

@axemanbob787 5 жыл бұрын

You just solved the biggest problem with my stadium snare. Nobody has been able to tell me how to fix the problem with my wide snares, so I’ve been using a shallower snare shell. I just went in a fixed it in , like , two minutes. 👍

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear it! Cheers -Ben

@jps_musics 2 жыл бұрын

I was having that same problem when I was trying 40’s for the first time. I’ll have to go back to those and try tuning the outside lugs higher, that sounded really sweet

@atomictraveller 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for the insight into snare varieties and application from a non-drummer (amateur budget dsp modeler).

@georgevtorres960 5 жыл бұрын

I feel like am actually taken a class on how to do on drums. Love it thank you

@progression_decibel 5 жыл бұрын

AWESOME video - this one really demystified A LOT of the questions I came across when adjusting and choosing snare wires for my various drums! Nowadays, I like using 30- or 42-strand wires on metal drums like the black beauty clones, brass, and my Supraphonic and 16- or 20-stranders on wood drums. But now after watching this video I might start choosing 16-strands for times where I don't close-mic the snare.

@markdrum2392 5 жыл бұрын

I started playing many moons ago and I've always loved the sound of a 16 strand snare. It lets the drum breath. Twelves aren't bad either.

@rogerbrichacek3140 Жыл бұрын

I get massive snare buzz with the 42 strands and it actually hinders the toms to the point I had to remove them and go to 20 strands. Snare still sounds great and Toms are clean sounding.

@Mike-oz5pp Жыл бұрын

Had the same prob cause I've always used 42's til recently. All that sympathetic snare buzz was by my own making, wow. No more 42's on my supraphonic only on my Pearl snare, makes some much difference & alot closer to the sound I want 👍

@kevinmcgovern5110 3 жыл бұрын

+1 on the channel! As to snare wires, I prefer the dryness and articulation of Puresound Concert series. They are made out of a hardened steel alloy (stainless?), where most wires are made of untreated, softer, raw steel; a noticeable difference. I've tried high-count snare wires, but went back to the Concerts for my snares.

@drumsalby5947 2 жыл бұрын

This is so next level, and just got me back to the ideal sound on my gretsch with wide snare wires, crazy jedi stuff here guys. So Awesome!!

@franklinden3497 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Brother Drummer, thanks for your noticeable experience and great subject matter of this vid to help explain and lessen the " Mystery" of our snare drum!!

@ryanintopeka 5 жыл бұрын

I started with the stock 20 strands on my Mapex Exterminator. They were fine. Once a wire popped and I needed to replace them I tried the Puresound Custom 16 strand. They sounded good but I tend to play a lot of rimshots and the snare sound was simply getting lost. I put some 24 strand of the same type on last week and it was instantly exactly the sound I was searching for. That extra bit of “air” in each hit. Loving them.

@peterkos1034 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative I'm in the process of making a kit and the snare drum in particular and every bit of info I can get is helpful. Your videos are a great help.

@scotttimbrooks6963 4 жыл бұрын

After watching this, i went 'back' to a 20-strand Puresound from a 30-strand Puresound on my Gretsch Catalina Club kit. My take-away from this video was: if you need to tweak the tuning of the outside lugs to get a more manageable sound, why switch?

@jdion79 5 жыл бұрын

just ordered some 30 strands. can't wait to tool around with them!!!

@yoashuain1 4 жыл бұрын

Very helpful! Needed this for cut through a symphony mix. Super huge fat sound!!!

@johnsayre2038 5 жыл бұрын

This video was especially helpful for me coming at drum set via a conservatory background. Higher tuning, snappy, minimal sustain...that was the aesthetic I was brought up with, maybe that's why I hate the way I tune drum set snares? Thanks for all the great info

@benjaminnebenjamin6033 2 жыл бұрын

i have a 42 strand right now and idk if it’s gonna work for the sound that I’m going for. so glad i found this specific topic. I’m new to adjusting or tuning drums 😣

@mysteryloaf 5 жыл бұрын

This was a super helpful video to watch in preparation of the arrival of my Tama SLP Black Brass 6.5 x 14. They come with 42s on them, which I've never used before, so this is going to come in super helpful when dialing it in! Thank you!!

@Mikebumpful 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, this is my favorite YT drum channel! You guys need to do a video on how drum shell depth affects the tone. There seems to be some misconceptions and superstitions regarding snare, tom and bass drum depth online. Like some drummers tend to believe that the deeper the drum, the more low freqs you're gonna get. Which is a truth with some pretty serious modifications IME!

@aparker507 5 жыл бұрын

I use 42s on every snare except my acrolite. My rosewood, bell brass, maple, all sound excellent with 42s

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been all about the Concert 16’s on this Acrolite but the 42’s have got me intrigued... -Ben

@andyreasbeck5743 5 жыл бұрын

Great explanation, I appreciate your your approach to sharing your knowledge.

@raymondebert8552 5 жыл бұрын

I use 42's on my Ludwig 8x14 Supralite. I really dig the fat tone I get out of it.

@paulmietty7643 2 жыл бұрын

This video is a must see for all drummers.

@Senzenfrenz Жыл бұрын

That was really interesting. I just purchased a kind of selfmade wooden Snare with a 42 on it. Already thought it sounds quite fat and really loud besides thinking it might be on there to compensate for the otherwise mediocre quality of the drum. Never seen or considered it before. Now thanks to your video I know what I might try with it.

@secondsbeforelanding 5 жыл бұрын

Another great and informative video. Merry Christmas to you all. Looking forward to more videos in 2019.

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Great things ahead...

@ricardomendez681 5 жыл бұрын

Great information! I read a long time ago that the thickness of the wires themselves dramatically affect the sound of the drum. Maybe you can cover that in a future chapter.

@matthewmccalvin2062 5 жыл бұрын

This channel is awesome def subscribed, good universal view/non biased view.. very descriptive and informative!! much appreciated

@glytch5 4 жыл бұрын

Great... one more complication to think about! I was beginning to think I just didn't like my wide snare wires..

@KellyAvery1965 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid! I have a Ludwig LB402B and 8x14 Black Magic which both came with 16 strand wires. I bought a couple pair of Gretsch 42's and didnt have much luck at first- they just sounded sloppy, especially on the 402B. Way too much "sizzle". I re-leveled the wires following Kenny Sharretts' video and they both sing now. Lesson being, the 12's, 16's and 20's seem to be a little more forgiving of misalignment, but the 42's will get ya if they're not aligned right. And they weren't off by much either. At least that's my experience.

@robwestndrumr7648 5 жыл бұрын

I have a Black Panther Machete I experimented with...tried 24strand, 42 strand...wound up going back to stock 20 strands bc just sounds best imo. Then again Black Panther's come with quality wires to start. Biggest improvement for my drum was changing heads. I have a Remo Controlled Sound reverse black dot on top...perfect for this drum.

@wallyallyn5473 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have an acrylite snare Ludwig and I have the yeah I can't get a a good Sunny sound out of my snare it just sounds real tinny and overtoned so maybe I'll try those 42-strand snare wires thank you for your input it's really helped me out I really really enjoy watching your videos thank you

@mat4410 Жыл бұрын

In the early 70s, there was a 24 strand with plexiglass end blocks formed around the end. Caused my 6 1/2 Superphonic 402 to explode! They’re gone and couldn’t find them anywhere. 😢

@mediumstudio 5 жыл бұрын

ooo - nice snare! - the muffler handle is so awesome

@chugg00 5 жыл бұрын

Whenever you guys do a shootout of wires, try to check out a Grover set. I’ve never heard a direct comparison between these and coiled wires other than within my own “experiments”.

@andreasechterhoff6647 Жыл бұрын

Awesome channel, awesome content, awesome t-shirt! Thank you for the detailed insights on this topic and sharing your great knowledge and expertise. Perfect starting point for me to do some experiments. Best drum channel around!

@jackcullen5696 5 жыл бұрын

I finally tried leveling the snare side rim to the shell. Slight adjustment to the batter head with more snare response! Thanks

@austinhowell7074 5 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite video yet. I put 42s on an 8x14 Starclassic I have and fought it until I watched this video. Good stuff. Thank god for Nerdery.

@BoxUpMyBones 5 жыл бұрын

I wish I would have seen this years ago; I experimented with a 42 strand on a snare I had, and it was decent, but I definitely ran into the problem of it being choked and wet. I never thought to do this, so I sold it... Oh well. Anyway! I heard you’re planning to do a snare wire shootout in the future, yes? May I suggest including the “blaster” wires (split snare wire) in that lineup? I have one on a 13x7, and I absolutely love it!

@gabrielnascimento1217 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing subject!! I always wondered about the subject and, as always the SLD team delivered great info and amazing content. Keep it up

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to share with your drummer friends. -Ben

@mich9665 5 жыл бұрын

This was an awesome video... early on I lucked into an old gretsch snare with split 2x12 and it is very similar to what you describe on the 42... now I actually know why.

@coreymanske 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know who this dude is, but we should be best friends. Joking aside, I found this video to be super helpful (already shared it with fellow drummer pals) and truly appreciate how articulate the message is. By comparison, there are other videos on KZfaq that are not as effective, especially from the perspective of playing the sounds BACK TO BACK (that's the key). Instant fan. Instant subscriber. Instant best friend. :)

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

I hear ya! I feel pretty lucky to get to work with him (and just to be friends with him!). Thanks for all of the kind words and welcome to the community. Cheers! -Ben

@PabloJ1968 5 жыл бұрын

Again...another awesome chapter! (..and shirt!).

@jimflys2 4 жыл бұрын

Really great video. I learned something. I will try this bottom head tension for the 42s because I have always noticed sort of choking effect or a feel issue with 42s.

@Rockin_Ross 5 жыл бұрын

I had 42’s on my Gretsch mahogany shell and they just didn’t work. I put them on my CoB Rogers Powertone and holy smokes!! Great advise here for using those. You guys just know how to show us what really matters.

@freecitizen2760 4 жыл бұрын

I much prefer the sound of the 16’s to the 42’s compared at 11:12. The 42’s were too rattly, and sloppy-sounding.

@krisslloyd2280 4 жыл бұрын

TRUE IVE USED THEM AND THEN CUT OUT WIRES TO MATCH A GAVIN HARRISON SOUND.

@hectorguarin3580 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm maybe, with fine tuning we could get it.

@brucejohnston3199 5 жыл бұрын

Another great informative video - well done. Merry Christmas

@stevenbowman761 3 жыл бұрын

This is very well thought out and helpful. Thanks!

@Eurodrummer666 5 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this video for a long time!

@ERMAV 5 жыл бұрын

Great video man!!! So much information and very well packaged!

@CarlosMorales-hv9qn 5 жыл бұрын

Upstanding !! I know is difficult have just one snare drum for every style of music, but now with all your advises I will have one drum with 3 head, 3 hoops and 2 wires for everything. Ben & Cody --->> THANK YOU SO MUCH ! Saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱

@BadRonald1 4 жыл бұрын

've noticed that I can't tell the difference between a 42 strand and a 20 strand on the same drum. Ive recorded it played it back over and over. Tried strings and tried different heads and really can't tell the difference.

@mattr3927 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love these videos dude! Best drum advice vids on KZfaq! Fact!

@catalinlulea 3 жыл бұрын

My word, this guy’s knowledgeable!!!

@robertyoder7178 3 жыл бұрын

so, years ago the local drum guy (Shawn Lafrenz who now works at Pearl, look him up) at the local music shop turned me onto using patterson cable snares when he set up my 14 x 7 yamaha recording custom (oh, and a remo fiberskyn head). besides sounding amazing, i had less of a problem with sympathetic buzz. i have been trying to find and buy cable snares over the years but they are never on the shelf, you have to order them, patterson, black swamp, grover (which i've yet to try) .... you guys should do an episode on cable snares .....

@nospoon17 5 жыл бұрын

Such a great informative video thanks a lot !

@BryceChristopherHodge 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! I literally asked for this last week. Thanks!

@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын

We thrive on feedback and requests! Thanks so much for being part of our community. -Ben

@BryceChristopherHodge 5 жыл бұрын

You guys are the best!

@austindeuel7788 Жыл бұрын

Awesome channel. Really useful/helpful information, Keep it up!!!!

@kekkonenhiihti 5 жыл бұрын

I've had a Yamaha YD-series set and for the longest time I've used 42 strand wires on the snare of that set. It's quite a cheap set but I absolutely love the snare sound. With the 42 strad wires I can get wonderful pop/rock sounds as well as modern folk sounds. Often the 42's save me from using a snare bottom mic (which is nice when touring with a minimal set up).

@db_on_drums 5 жыл бұрын

what do you mean with raise up? raise the hoop or make the head tighter?

@seanbusch9074 3 жыл бұрын

Yea, that's my question as well. What does raise up mean ? Tighten they lugs?

@MrCanWard 3 жыл бұрын

You are the master of drum tunning

@thetruthexperiment Жыл бұрын

When you want a snare to sound like a snare by itself you don’t need equalization or compression. It’s when you’re mixing with a dozen or more tracks and you need consistency and cut through. A whole drum set by itself with just four mics might need a little but as soon as you bring in singing and other instruments it will be a jumble without insert effects.