5 Different Kicks for $0 | Season Five, Episode 48

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During a recent lesson in bass drum tuning, we were inspired to document a collection of vastly different acoustic sounds for creative inspiration without spending a single dollar. No specialty drumheads. No boutique muffling products. Just some simple tuning and tonal control. Challenge yourself to recreate each of these sounds by ear, regardless of which one is your favorite or which ones you think will meet your current creative needs.
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0:00 Intro
1:25 Option 1
4:43 Option 2
6:15 Option 3
7:56 Option 4
10:10 Option 5
13:03 Comparison
14:29 Conclusion
PRODUCTION PARTNERS:
GIK Acoustics (sonic treatment): sladl.ink/GIK
AKG Audio (microphones): sladl.ink/AKG
Evans Drumheads: sladl.ink/EvansDrumheads
ProMark Drumsticks: sladl.ink/ProMarkDrumsticks
Signal chain:
Mics - Focusrite Clarett 8Pre USB- Mac Studio w/Pro Tools 2022.5
Recorded at 48kHz / 24bit
Overheads: (Matched Pair in Glyn Johns - Cardioid) AKG C314 sladl.ink/C314Pair
Snare, Toms: AKG C518M sladl.ink/C518M
Kick Drum: AKG D12VR sladl.ink/AKGD12VR
No EQ or compression in use with drum demos unless otherwise noted
Acoustic Treatment:
GIK 242 Acoustic Panels: sladl.ink/GIK242
GIK 4A Alpha Pro Series Diffusor/Absorber: sladl.ink/GIK4aAlphaPro
GIK Evolution PolyFusor Combination Sound Diffuser/Absorber: sladl.ink/GIKEvolutionPolyFusor
GIK Tri-Trap Corner Bass Trap: sladl.ink/GIKTriTrap
Drums:
Pearl Masters Maple Custom Extra w/Ludwig 60’s Acrolite
Cymbals:
22” Jesse Simpson clone of old Zildjian A, 15" Zildjian “Fat Hat” Prototype Hihats
Drumheads:
Snare: Evans G1 Coated / Snare Side 300
Snare Wires: PureSound Custom Pro Steel 20-strand
Floor Tom: N/A
Kick Drum: Evans G1 Coated / EQ3 Coated White Reso
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Пікірлер: 50

@jiondrums78 Жыл бұрын

Nice bass tones. Nice hair cut.

@P43L1j0 Жыл бұрын

As a session drummer for years, this things just save me a lot of time and money in order to get the correct sound that the gig ask.

@edsterling5258 9 ай бұрын

Felt stips both batter and reso for me. Rock player here. I was a towel guy for my first ten years. Switched to felt for the most recent ten years. It brought my sound up a letter grade. Very happy.

@johnreardon4944 Жыл бұрын

Option 3 with a towel. Definitely the best "standard" live sound. What makes my live sound really, really good is having a Pearl Reference Pure kit. It's the house kit at my blues venue. That being said, it would also be a waste of money to have if I couldn't tune well and/or didn't have pro drummers playing it. It also demonstrates why beginner musicians don't need expensive instruments. Spending money won't make one sound better. In my case, and with my experience and situation, the audience can definitely "hear" the money, meaning the quality sound. Even though I generally keep this same tuning, it sounds completely different with every drummer's playing technique. With these video lessons I've been able to maximize my sounds far beyond its limits. Thanks to this channel's lessons my venue's drum sound has become legendary in my area. Drummers are always more excited to come back than the guitarists. And I have a 1969 Fender Super Reverb too! God, I love owning a blues venue! It never feels like work even though I work hard on so many nuances with sound. You guys continue to motivate me! Thank you always for the videos!

@theDeathJoy Жыл бұрын

Great comparison! Still not used to the haircut after watching for years.

@karriraisanen6145 Жыл бұрын

My favorite is still the hack you featured months ago: a piece of cloth (cut T-shirt) suspended between the lugscrews on the inside. Takes out the basketball-sound, and tames the sound just right! Been using it on some of my floortoms too 👌

@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын

Surprisingly enough, that was nearly three years ago! Glad you enjoyed it and are getting some mileage out of that hack.

@karriraisanen6145 Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, had no idea it was so long ago! 😅 been watching every tuesday!

@johnreardon4944 Жыл бұрын

@@karriraisanen6145 I must have missed that one! What episode number was it? I've never heard of such a thing.

@karriraisanen6145 Жыл бұрын

@@johnreardon4944 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n-B7fdtj2Jm4pGQ.html

@CryptoKaiser Жыл бұрын

Felt actually sounded awesome

@bobsondugnutt7526 11 ай бұрын

I've used a mesh head on the front, giving me the "option 5" sound. I like a PS3 style clear head for the batter. The ring provides a little muffling. Single ply keeps some resonance but has plenty of attack. If you really stomp you can get a 22" to punch through for rock.

@drumfanatik316 Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual! I think the towel muffling sounded the best!!!

@adamalexanderray Жыл бұрын

Commenting on the haircut for the algorithm. Nice haircut.

@jonathanreddish8590 Жыл бұрын

2 things i was inspired to try from this video... a single EMAD on the batter... no reso.... and, EMADs on both batter and reso.. no muffling...

@JFKDrummer Жыл бұрын

I liked the felt strip best!😎

@landonewers7943 Жыл бұрын

Here are two factors you can explore: 1) Stuff a rolled up hand towel between the bass drum pedal and the exterior of the batter head. This lets the head resonate as it oscillates AWAY from the towel as opposed to being choked off as it oscillates INTO the towel. 2) Use a head with an inlay ring like a REMO P3. Swipe a free floating muffle ring like the kind that come with a REMO Power Max marching bass drum head and install it BETWEEN the head and the inlay ring. It works like a felt strip but promotes a bit more resonance. These two ideas work great separately but together??? Yowza! THE most glorious blend of resonant “off the head playing” when you want it but still brings the pain when you bury the beater. Works extremely well at both sky-high and gutter-low tunings too.

@SimonKranzDrums Жыл бұрын

The only thing I don't like about this is that I didn't think of it first.

@remygaron8311 Жыл бұрын

Thanks to you and all your team loved everysec of it

@aceoft3482 Жыл бұрын

This was great, thank you. The sound recordings are very helpful, and your presentation style and chops complete the package.

@jonashellborg8320 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Very useful for us playing in different rooms with different needs all the time. I’m currently practising a fully open drum and different tone/volume setup. I’ve also fallen in love with the rolled up towel sound on the batter, and absolutely agree there is no “best” sound. I do find that many gig venues I visit tend to overly muffle the bass drum, being scared of the full volume on stage getting too high. But in that approach losing a lot of low end, so I’m learning a more open, but quiet setup that works and still has a full sound.

@brent3760 Жыл бұрын

Yay, Cody is back!

@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын

Cody never went anywhere but we’re happy you’re happy.

@DrummerRIP Жыл бұрын

Fantastic as always! 🤓

@nez1703 Жыл бұрын

Currently rocking the towel croissant in my 16" kick drum and the bandana under snare hoop hack. Sounds great and brings the volume down a bit for practice. Cheers ❤

@danielcohn6884 Жыл бұрын

Great content as usual. Cody looks like he just spent the week on Jersey shores though with the mild sunburn and haircut

@kushking420 Жыл бұрын

I remember my first kit had a blanket inside, was my parents idea, now in my 22x20 sonor 3007 i just use a a towel inside a sweater against my batter head and it sounds great to great rid of over tones

@jc3drums916 Жыл бұрын

My setup is very similar to #2. EMAD with the thin foam ring for the batter, Ebony PS3 with a 4" off-center port for the reso. Sometimes I think I should go back to a more muffled, standard contemporary music setup, but I think this is a decent compromise for playing anything from rock to jazz without changing the tuning back and forth (at home - not performing or recording, of course). Plus, it makes the drum sound huge, without the overtones becoming too prominent.

@alsdrumhang Жыл бұрын

Hmm, which will get more comments, the haircut or the content? 😆I love these kind of gradual tweak videos. My go-to muffling technique is a small pillow that's wrapped in a cloth laundry bag. the cords of the laundry bag cinch around the middle of the pillow, making for an hourglass shape similar to the Evans EQ Pad. The cord is loose enough for me to stick my preferred bass drum microphone under - a Sennheiser E901 flat boundary microphone. I use a 14" deep bass drum and the pillow laid widthwise can just rest against both heads. I can also push it against the batter or reso head as needed for different types of muffling. For a real dead, thwappy sound, I can turn it so that each end of the pillow rides up on the heads.

@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын

Man, if all we had to do was give Cody a haircut in order to make an episode then this would be a VERY simple series to produce.

@alsdrumhang Жыл бұрын

@@SoundsLikeADrum I have a set of clippers. I'm just saying.

@geraldware5968 Жыл бұрын

Awesome

@norbertrenner9364 Жыл бұрын

As pritty often,less is also more,and so it's nice to hear,how different a 'simple' G1 coated (or Ambassador coated i guess) can sound.While the version with a towl is my favorit in a rock/pop/blues ......context,the one with no front head and no muffling at all sounds kind of musical,natural,raw.....guess it's inspiring in a different way, that's cool ! Thanks a lot !

@Snozzberrypies Жыл бұрын

Great video man. I wasted a few bucks on remo muffl rings, well sorta. they aren't quite what I hoped when I bought them , and I probably could've done the job with bandanas lol. I love having a pillow in my bass drum, I just wish I could get my toms and snare to sound so good. Thanks 👍

@chromebull884 Жыл бұрын

One thing I have been doing recently that I had not thought to do before is put a small square of foam in the base drum with two 7.5 pound weights on it. The phone is only touching the reso head as my batterhead is a very heavily muffled head already. It is open yet controlled. And if I want to have more muffling I have a small towel that I can put in between the bass drum and my pedal

@artcorvolet 11 ай бұрын

Fan of the Felt!!

@drummercarson896 Жыл бұрын

I normally use a pillow inside my bass drum but I'm going to try using a towel in there

@herwansaputra4080 9 ай бұрын

Opt 2 ❤

@Tdrums8 Жыл бұрын

Great Vid .I vid i think you never did is all these tuning techniques but with a double pedal .Its hard to get a good tuning tension and muffling that makes the Double pedal feel great and fast and feels like 2 kicks thats a challenge ..Stay well

@JohnnyQ714 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video! I love open tuning! No muffling on toms or snare. I choose the best heads and tuning for my liking. On my bass drums (26”, 24” & 22”) I use an Aquarian Super Kick 2 on the batter and a Remo marching band head for the reso (because it has a similar muffling strip as the super kick 2). If I can’t find a Remo marching band head, I use a single ply head and I adhere a strip of weather stripping to it, and then tune accordingly. IF I decide to put a “mic” port on the reso head, I NEVER put the mic in the half way in half way out position. That’s because that’s where the air is escaping, and that’s escaping air definitely creates a “whoosh” air sound that can affect the true sound of the shell. There’s absolutely no drum shell creator that’s saying to themselves as they’re making the shell saying “Gawd!!! I can’t wait for someone to muffle this shell or put a pillow or towel in this bass drum!!!”. To each their own though!!!

@glennedwardgo Жыл бұрын

I love the sound of the beater bouncing off the head but i hate the feel of not burying the beater.😥

@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын

It's definitely a technique worth developing particularly for that sound. There seem to be a lot of people out there who think you have to choose one approach or the other. To us, that's like choosing all rimshots or all center hits on a snare. Why not have both available to you?

@clayfoster8234 Жыл бұрын

Along with a superkick2 batter and ported reso, once I put a bath towel folded into thirds and just touching both head in my kick all my kick problems went away. No more basketball sound or mid frequency weirdness. No it’s all thump all day.

@hiptoalieu 9 ай бұрын

Option 5 sounded like a cross between a bop bass drum and a big concert tom...WEIRD! LOL

@tamaraperkuhn586 Жыл бұрын

What is the episode number for video on the felt strip?

@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын

How to Muffle a Bass Drum with Felt Strips | Season 2 - Episode 2 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMx0f6uDtLe7ZH0.html

@nickdenardo6479 Жыл бұрын

sorry, but this makes me want to work on playing off the head more than play with the muffling. I've always buried the beater and it seems like I've been missing out on a lot of tone as a result. nice to see you back in our timeline, btw....

@tomasshannon6537 Жыл бұрын

awesome video as always! love these zero cost options. as a heads up, i was hearing some sort of persistent frequency buildup around 650hz during Cory's dialogue