South Kenton Contrasts
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Күн бұрынContrasting 1990's and 2010/2011 views of trains at / passing South Kenton station which is at the London end of the WCML (West Coast Main Line).
From 1990 we see BR Class 313 and 321 trains in Network SouthEast livery plus London Transport Bakerloo Line 1972 Mk2 stock trains in their original unpainted aluminium with red doors livery. Plus an InterCity train in Swallow livery. The 1990's footage was taken in the evening and extends into twilight, when we see 3 and 6 carriage Class 313 trains.
From 2010/2011 we see London Overground Class 378 trains, London Midland Class 350 trains, Virgin Pendolino Class 390 trains, London Underground Bakerloo Line 1972 Mk2 stock trains in corporate livery plus a few freight trains.
Telephoto views also show trains at the nearby North Wembley station.
@harryelliott4310 Жыл бұрын
London Overground Class 378
@harryelliott4310 Жыл бұрын
Bakerloo Line 1972 Tube Stock
@bIuebitten4675 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when the 72 stocks were white it brings back memories
@owenchuarbx 9 жыл бұрын
So both the Class 378s and 1972 stocks had to share together.On the Watford DC /Bakerloo Line
@CitytransportInfoplus 12 жыл бұрын
@jonniefc Thats because of the way BR resignalled the line, quite literally halving the train capacity compared to the LMS signalling system of the 1930's.
@mature01au 10 жыл бұрын
I remember travelling on this rail line daily on my way to work back in the last 1950's from Headstone lane station to Wembley central mainly by green British Rail trains non corrie doors types the stock was mostly pre WW2 stock then used get a bus round to Peirvale to work at a place called "Sewing Silks" so time would use a cycle & ride to Harrow Weald up over Harrow on the Hill to save the fares !!
@instinct_yt281 5 ай бұрын
Alas, the “North Wembley Contrasts” Film was never posted.
@CitytransportInfoplus 12 жыл бұрын
@mcmotor101 The DC electrification of the Watford Line dates back to the LNWR and the WW1 era. In those days it also used a 4 rail system, which BR converted to 3rd rail in 1970.
@markcf83 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have been long before the Bakerloo line stock was refurbished.
@RealCristiano 3 жыл бұрын
3:01 why did the 313 have 6 carriages? I'm assuming just because of demand
@CitytransportInfoplus 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sure that it was because of a hoped-for influx of passengers during roadworks on the M1 motorway
@CitytransportInfoplus 12 жыл бұрын
@bronzeonion hmm, unless there is a very special reason I think that this would be unlikely. However as I understand it the NLL platforms at Stratford can accept trains of up to 6 carriages in length, and plans for lengthening these trains by adding extra carriages are already being discussed. The ELL may also have its trains lengthened, although at a few stations selective door opening will have to be used as an alternative to platform lengthening.
@CitytransportInfoplus 12 жыл бұрын
@antjeisback I assume that the power supply for the 3rd rail section south of Drayton Park was installed with enough capacity for 6 car trains when the BR trains replaced the Underground trains. Of course north of Drayton Park the overhead wire power supply was designed for more than just these trains. The Euston - Watford DC service was and still is a very different route.
@oludotunjohnshowemimo434 5 жыл бұрын
The 1972 mk2 had the doors painted red when they were new and unpainted to tell them apart from its 72mk1s and 1967 cousins since they all have the same design. Also the ref doors painted on the 1972mk2 helped maintainence engineers to know they were operationally different from the mk1 and 1967 stock. TfL fixed up a few ex Northern line 1972mk1 trains and coverted them to driver only operation and they still on the Bakerloo line today. Some mk2s have mk1 adaped cars mixed into the fleet possible as replacements for damaged and written off mk2 cars.
@CitytransportInfoplus 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember seeing them as I travelled on the underground to get to school.
@bronzeonion 12 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an 8 car 378!
@danielwoodhouse8720 11 жыл бұрын
on the 1972 MK 2s - why did the doors used to sqeal so loud?
@CitytransportInfoplus 12 жыл бұрын
@HSTCalvin Have you seen my filmed showing WCML footage from 1992?
@jonniefc 12 жыл бұрын
siganl Ws48 @ 06:57 stays green for a while after the train has passed if i am correct?
@harryelliott4310 Жыл бұрын
Birtish Railway Class 313
@mature01au 10 жыл бұрын
Oh yep both the Bakerloo & British rail trains ran all the way to Watford !!
@jack253 12 жыл бұрын
Hmm The 1972 Stock doesn't seem to have DVA Announcements on it since then. When did they get them fitted?
@mcangeloslays 3 жыл бұрын
1:13 The bakerloo line looks really short.
@mcmotor101 12 жыл бұрын
@antjeisback the GN uses overhead wires as you probably have seen, where as the Watford line uses London Underground-esque 3rd/4th rail supply, which I assume does not quite provide enough power to run 313's to their full 'strength'. (This is an educated guess)
@danielwoodhouse8720 11 жыл бұрын
Too bloody early I liked them as they were They were refurbished from 1991 - 1995
@ChilternTransportProductions 4 жыл бұрын
GeT wItH tHe TiMeS
@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Жыл бұрын
Screw the modern age
@thetransporthub 10 жыл бұрын
How come te bakerloo stock don't need yellow ends when they are on national rail lines
@jamtart606 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure, maybe because it's not a requirement for Tube Trains to have it?
@chrisrowe7503 6 жыл бұрын
Actually I think you will find that although Network Rail still own the track London Underground have now taken over Harrow & Wealdstone, Kenton, South Kenton, North Wembley, Wembley Central, Stonebridge Park, Harlesden, Kensal Green and Queens Park stations. So technically the Bakerloo line is the most regular service on the tracks. Yellow ended trains will soon be a thing of the past anyway.
@user-do2rj4sf8j 4 жыл бұрын
Did the unpainted aluminium and red door bakerloo line train have a farewell tour prior to refurbishment.
@CitytransportInfoplus 4 жыл бұрын
not that I remember, nor for any other line where the trains were refurbished
@user-do2rj4sf8j 4 жыл бұрын
citytransportinfo it was only for the district line i presume since that had the last unpainted with half red front train. I'd say all the unrefurbished stock is much better than the refurb version.
@amjkodaz 6 жыл бұрын
What year is the first shot? 2001?
@CitytransportInfoplus 6 жыл бұрын
I do not know exact dates as this was not recorded at time of filming but it would have been in the mid 1990's.
@amjkodaz 6 жыл бұрын
ah I see
@MrGriser 6 жыл бұрын
0:25 No hustle alarm.
@CitytransportInfoplus 6 жыл бұрын
Thats a more recent innovation. Not one that welcome. Its too loud and too jarring.
@CitytransportInfoplus 12 жыл бұрын
@Ryan199403 I'm not really sure, but because of something I filmed in 1999 / 2000 I suspect that the trains were refurbished and painted in LU Corporate livery in the late 1990's.
@MrGriser 11 жыл бұрын
The 1972 tube stock trains were probably being refurbished at the time you made the first video I know that all of them were refurbished by Easter 1995 but I'm not too sure when they first started doing them.
@billyh88uk 11 жыл бұрын
1991-1995 according to TFL's page.
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