I can game on my m1 max. Alien isolation runs at full specs. Ive been gaming on it for ages now. Its great. Just the selection is small. Lara croft tomb raider plays in High setting everything.

alien isolation is ported to mac? I have an m1 Pro and I'd love to have some heart attacks.. if my mac is enough :)@@MA-ik7ys

It's been 2 yrs

My m2 pro can game. I play no man’s sky at 1440p enhanced settings at 120FPS with with performance quality enabled. I can target that performance while recording with OBS.

why is bro saying 3 years when its barely been 2 lmao

They are probably gonna quote his last line where he states all the positives in one sentences.

"Games thats i dont care about" Thats what i wanna see in the Apple event

If you were running a business like apple, would you do that?

Nah, Apple will just stick to quoting Engadget reviews instead. They almost never say anything negative about Apple products. Hell, up until a few months ago they were still defending Apple's decision to only include 8 GB of RAM in the base model of their new products.

They could but would spin it as a statement showing just how much superior their silicon has been that even 3 years later it is still a top of the line product.

It's so apple

White power brick

Bro you cant come in here talking about white power. Its not cool.

Trash design, my brick fall off the outlet all the time

The what now?

Yeah the moment he brings in the black surface the black macbook looks like space grey, but honestly I do wonder if this really matters all that much in a silo it looks fine and I don't think many people would be placing the macbook on a black surface often enough to see how non-black it is (unless you have a black desk that is)

It looks still pretty black

Yes. I was almost thinking, "Not dark enough? What are you talking about Marques?....." Until I saw him compare it with the really dark laptop.

Yeah it looks so black at 1:11, and the color turn so light at 1:18😮

i just wish he showed it beside the midnight colorway too

He's too big to be pushed around by companies.

Dude so big he cancelled apple

@@thelarry383 any other big channel would have sold out we saw what happened with LTT lately sdly they are way bigger and my respect for them was waaaay higher then MKBHD dunno how to feel about what they done lately regarding the reviews and products agreement

😂nah I'm already using it for 2 years😂

Seems we did not go very far, considering there is no meaningfull difference and Marques literally canceled his order...

I recently got an M1 Pro device and it’s a beast.

@@marwin4348If this is what Apple can do in 9 months I think they should update their chipset every other year.

@@swagboss10000been using a m1 ipad pro 12.9 since its release, love having a giant iphone i can draw on w/ extras silly features

the irony

Yes, would also give kudos for sticking w/ your M1 Max MBP. Clearly you can afford it / could justify it, but don't need it, and so sticking with your old one. Cool in its own right!

I think you're just watching the wrong people. There's literally so many tech KZfaqrs who will tell you not to buy a product if it's shit. In fact, just as much as some KZfaqrs just say "buy it" no matter what cause it gets views. There's just as many KZfaqrs who know being super negative and shitting on everything gets views too. Marques is great but you really don't need to suck him off this hard.

I would be happy if major influencers raise their voice against pricing. RAM upgrade is almost 10 times more than should be. It is robbery and should be illegal!

And yet when it’s an ANDROID product people like MK go nuts for the products , the contradictions are there if you aren’t a fanboy.

U joker?🫶

​@pikachuyt4198 what is wrong with you?

Space Greyer

I do not understand why especially United States Americans so much obsessed about color, talking about color color color color color color. Apple brought this dark color, it is called dark black, and starting discussion ‘’ noooo it's not dark black it's dark gray, okey we get it :) :) :) how can you talk about color 5 or 7 minutes, okay color is color okay forget it just mention about color for 2 seconds and move on why every KZfaqr talking about color color. 3500$ machine which is made for professional work, everyone forgets the most important purpose of this machine starting review with color color😃

@@yervandpapazyan4473 yeah it’s weird lol. When I went to pick up my m2 MacBook I didn’t even ask about color. I just got what the store employee gave me

How does it perform ?

really a different tier

whoa dude! you are going to have your mind blown

Same upgrading from a 2014

THE SCREEEN LOL@@beardfootofficial

And follow through

also awful to see him play games with a trackpad lol

Basically every tech reviewer doesn't recommend upgrading every year?

Nobody says you need to upgrade every year, you're just an idiot if you believe that in the first place or could be convinced of it otherwise.

He says that always. New or something? Or just dumb?

And then they literally scrubbed them. 😂

Yeah because most people don’t upgrade yearly.

​@@Wanted797OK Tim apple you shill

yea they starting to do that wih everything , they dont compare with the chip from latest iphne , they do it with 2 or 3 gens older

The need to look "innovating" for the stock market 💰💹

Still using my m1 air, I wanted to play some games so I just use Nvidia GeForce Now cloud gaming. Other than that the m1 air is still super good. I can have two windows of safari open with multiple tabs running, KZfaq video playing, Spotify, and VScode for web dev on an external display simultaneously with no issues

@@mickyJfando you do any 4k video editing?

@@npc2kI used to with Filmora. Handled it just fine, long export times though, and would recommend getting a MBP for lots of special effects

But for simple 4K editing, no issue at all

@@npc2kI’ve edited, finished and delivered to NBC universal and other three national TV networks in Europe a documentary shot in RAW with 9 cinema cameras using just a baseline mac mini M1 with 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD. It was during the pandemic and that was what I had at home. Everything worked flawlessly without even making proxies. I would spend 3-4-5k only for a machine that really gives me more power in ray tracing when I do some 3D. But we are still not there.

You forgot bhadiya. It is also bhadiya.

MB = macbook or MB = marques?

​@@randomstorm1973Marques Brownlee

MB = Matte back?@@randomstorm1973

only a new processor and a new color 🗿

How do you get lucky enough to find open box macbooks? Just ask the Best Buy desk? Or do you have to work there (or other laptop stores)/know someone there?

@@massive_dronerask about open box at any Best Buy store if your lucky there will be one available at your local area

Wellll, I guess he might have missed the 2009 MacBook launch notes?

2006 is calling

Err, it's not black.

Apple made a matte black MacBook from 2006-08

A MattBook

I would not associate beeing an apple customer ready to upgrade his stuff every 3 years with "humility" and "not throwing money". But I guess it depends on your standards

I’m in the exact same boat! 16 M1 Pro is holding up perfectly and I can’t see myself updating for a bit.

Meager m1 pro? I'm still using my m1 air 16gb 256 for full stack web development and it's still blazingly fast. Editing videos and playing games would be another thing tho. Otherwise I don't see why it won't serve me for at least 5 more years.

nothing meager about an M1 Pro chip

I would really like to know how the hinge is holding up coz in my last laptop(not a macbook 😅) that was the part that gave me a lot of problems

Im still using my 2017 macbook pro, still working as it did when I bought it so still performing perfectly for me. I think i can give it a few years

❤❤❤❤❤

Literally every successful channel does this...

​@@rsac43There's a reason he's not just one of the successful channels but _the_ most successful channel

@@Tom_Stevens617 not the most successful...

I got the 14” M1 Pro as well, honestly it was way overkill for what I use it for. Still happy with it, I don’t see me upgrading anytime soon.

😮

Exact same situation here as well. Base M1 MBP is such a powerhouse on it’s own, I just can’t justify upgrading for quite some time.

Same here, m1 pro base model. It is overkill fr.

I agree, I'm not a pro gamer, but I have enjoyed gaming my whole life. But I have also been a Mac fan. And I have not wanted to have two computers. So I have been one of the few, running Windows on boot camp and playing windows games on a Mac with a horrible FPS of sometime sub 10 in online Multi player games. I think there are more out there like me, that If Apple started taking gaming more seriously, they would find more customers willing to pay the Apple premium price, if it meant getting a great computer for work, that also supports the games to like to enjoy in your spare time. 😊

Bro for real. I have a gaming pc and have for a long time. Several years ago, before the M1 happened, I bought a MacBook Pro because I needed a new laptop and I always wanted one (had money from insurance). macOS is fucking awesome. Super smooth and the gestures on that big wonderful trackpad were amazing. MacBook trackpads are just *chefs kiss*. Anyway I loved that thing but ended up selling it because I had an iPad Pro and honestly I didn’t need both. If these new MacBooks with crazy M3 (etc) chips, that can perform insane numbers for how small the laptops are, could actually play video games as they came out just like pc can, I think a lot of people would consider buying them because then MacBooks would be an insane all around portable computer. Might even get some money from me haha. Gaming pc laptops of similar performance would not be as slim as a MacBook which is a selling point.

Mac has and always will be trash for gaming

they should buy blizzard

@@nullskull6860Unless they can somehow convince game developers to be able to export for ARM CPUs or improve their translation layer

Absolutely, the idea of upgrading a laptop within 1-4 years is ecologically disastrous.

Happy to see some people giving a thought to the environment in tech community which is riddled with unsustainable consumerism.

This sort of thinking would literally bankrupt Apple. Despite all their hypocritical virtue signaling, if you aren't filling landfills with their products while encouraging them to exploit foreign labor their business model falls apart.

second this video idea. also I can say as someone who is in the exact demographic you've described (SWE with a mac - m2 to be specific), I've been able to get quite a lot of serious gaming out of it I played: - diablo 4 - return of the obra dinn - many rounds of hearthstone battlegrounds - factorio - black mesa (HL remake) - the witness - divinity 2 - into the breach - binding of issac mind you, most of these games aren't AAA games so maybe this idea of using a mac for games breaksdown as games get more intenstive but something I also want to mention is that, some of these games are built only for windows (Diablo 4 being the most apparent in my list), but I was still able to play it bc apple released their game porting tool. what's nice is this tool isn't built just for developers. so technically, you don't have to wait for the devs to port their game over to mac. you can just install windows games using apple's game porting tool and it will work out of the box - no extra configuration needed. but this tool does assume you know how to use a bash terminal. but if there is a specific game you want to play, espeically if it's a famous game like diablo 4, you can find a guide that walks you through the install steps on youtube nonetheless, every game I've mentioned ran with at least 60 FPS on a 1080p 34inch wide screen monitor with at least medium settings or higher. I feel like if you happen to have access to one of these laptops, don't sleep on what's possible with the hardware you're given

There are lots of other channels for exactly that to be fair 😊

it’s his style, and a better alternative for watching the keynotes 😜

If you're going to be buying a baseline Pro machine with only 8GB or RAM, you're better off saving your money and just going for the MacBook Air. Slightly related, it's ridiculous that Apple still offers a baseline machine (ANY machine) with only 8GB of memory. They can spin it however they want about the memory efficiency and utilization of the OS. It's still entirely insufficient.

Nice find man!

That was a good scoop

Damn, that was great ! Why did the person sell it with only 22 charge cycles? Upgrading ?

@@nokiaairtel5311 They said they recently lost their job and were low on funds.

You wasted your money. What MKBHD said was more geared toward people who already had one of the older machines. Buying an outdated machine now is silly, you could've got a much better M3 Max for a similar price.

Could also be the case that since he already has a mac studio it has already encompassed his high end workflow based on it and uses laptops more for their portable entertainment. Pretty sure anyone who uses their laptop as an exclusive computing device for high end workflow that doesn't game (and also provided the person is rich enough go for top end) I think its for them. Then again those people are also probably fewer than 1% soo your statement may as well be still true

yeah, the honesty is extremely refreshing and why we come back every time

yeah your m2 pro will last you for like 10 years, it’s easy to fall into marketing even with specs when in most cases you won’t be maxing it out what you already have (which is overkill already) keep that up and it’ll save you money yearly. easier said than done but you can do it. appreciate it and just be grateful💪🏼🦍🦋

Dbrand it and choose a new wallpaper. It'll feel like a new laptop 😉

@@Mikivli True words! My previous MBP lasted me 10 years, just ignore all the hype and marketing and you're good to go ;-)

I was just about to call you a sheep before I read the rest of your comment

Your M2 Pro is outdated, sorry. He's just saying that because he has beef with Apple for some reason.

I have the exact same MacBook. It’s still blazingly fast. No need to upgrade.

I make tech videos just like mkbhd would preciate it if you gave them a shot

Does anyone know what model it was? This 'control' black laptop?

Same, my battery life has taken a bit of a nosedive since when I first got it. Otherwise, it's still incredibly fast.

Quite honestly, as someone who is buying a new laptop and can't quite afford the newest, I really do like how the M3/M2 Macbooks look. They look aesthetically so beautiful, and that way smaller bezel on the new macbooks alone would make it worth it to me. In a year from now, I'll be out of a tough financial situation, but yeah. I really don't feel bad at all about buying an M1 macbook. They're still entirely overkill for the average consumer and for what I want to do on a laptop. Enjoy! I'm thinking of switching from an s22 ultra to iphone. How are you liking all the apple stuff? I dont fiddle with my tech much anymore and I'm just bored of samsung.

⁠@@hobosnake1hello, allow me to answer in this fellows stead. Switching from Android (had a OnePlus 5) to an iPhone 11 was such a good decision. Of course my Oneplus wasn’t the latest at that time but holy shit my iPhone blew me away i loved it from day one. I’m very organised (i like stuff to have a orderly look) so iOS played right into this and actually encouraged me to use more of it’s capabilities and features to get more organisation and benefit out of it. Never have i missed anything besides the Google keyboard (you’ll get used to it after a while) and maybe a bit better file manager but it’s okay i need it only from time to time. This was all 2020. Now 2023 my 14 pro is now an year old (yes my 11 retired after 2 years) and i love it even more. iOS is getting better with every update and my iPhone perform crazy good. Now i’m about to make the same decision you are making. Deciding what my first Mac is going to be (then my family of iPhone, iPad, watch, airpods and apple tv will be complete). I’m probably also gonna go for the 16” M3 pro MacBook pro cause i kinda feel like getting the latest instead of buying refurbished M1 or 2. It’s way more expensive but i kinda feel better thinking about that. I have by no means problems with refurbished since i bought my iPad Pro 2018 that way but idk i kinda want a new macbook now. Anyway that’s my 2 cents about this. Edit: oh and also there are two M1 MacBook Pro version when it comes to the design and port situation. One with the old design (less ports and no notch) and one with the new design (more ports and sleeker notch design) wich Mkb is using as well. I’m sure you’ll find good refurbished M1 Pro MacBook Pro deals. Ah shit maybe i should reconsider as well…but the M3 pro… ah man drives me nuts it’s so stupid lmao

Interesting

But it also depends on the chemistry or the surface, Aluminum is not black, so surely there is something black that was applied to the surface in anodization.

I've recently found that black chalkboard paint is the mattest of the mat blacks. You paint glossy plastic with that and it looks like black rubber!

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

You don’t need to play the newest and hardware demanding games to be a “gamer”.

Yeah, Mac's gaming news recently are "Congrats! You can play games but if you want to have the same graphics/performance as a $800 PC you need a $1200+ machine! (Starts at 8GB RAM btw, totally not a scam to have 8GB RAM as a base in 2023)"

COD players finding out about combat rpgs:

​@@SaltAndViI don't believe that was the point they were making. I think they were trying to say that the claim MKBHD is making is somewhat misleading for people looking at this machine for gaming. Most people will try to play something recent.

The point he was making wasn't about them being demanding but not available on MACos As a self righteous gamer you should know that lmfao

U beasty 🫶

You literally could have just got the pro. The max only has extra GPU cores, none of which your daw will use

For music production, in the order of importance : cpu cores ! , ram (if lots of samples, Konact librairies), fast disk (but the majority of ssds are good enough nowadays). M3 Max with 16 cores is very interesting for music production imho. Anyway, i'm glad that you've found the right computer for you :)

@@lucasjames8281 pretty sure the pro only supports 1 external monitor.

You wasted your money. He was more talking about the people who already had the old machines, and even then it was just his opinion. There is absolutely no reason to buy an old and outdated M1 Macbook Pro this late though when you can get much better M3 Macbook Pro for a similar price.

@@chiefjudge8456 you can get aftermarket / refurb Macs for much much less than a new m3

So you decided to give up on gaming? O_o

na I got a beast gaming pc for editing and gaming. plus I got a ps5. I wouldn't use Mac for gaming cause that doesn't seem to compete with a custom build pc@@alexejvornoskov6580

I beat it on the Xbox game pass free trial

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

Apple doesnt giving af about the earth lol

It's funny. Most people I know buying macbooks right now are buying M1 models. There's no point for most people to get anything better than that. Why spend 1500-2000 on something that's overkill when you can spend 500$ on a macbook air, or 600$ for an M1 Pro, which are both still entirely way too overkill for 95% of consumers?