For style I find it helps to assume it, for function, build what works :D

@@Splitsie indeed.

Corby Sloan it just WoRkS

I usually build my ships in creative and use a projector and fix any issues I missed for survival

@@Splitsie I modified your ship I wish there was a way to show you, I might be able to put it on the workshop

lol :D

Thanks so much for the kind words! Hope these help you get some real fun out of the game :)

He's getting big, but it's a niche game sooooo nobody really is picking it up for the first time.

Funny that you say this. I wanted to buy it and play it but then I forgot about it. I came across his beginners tutorials and I liked them and I want to see what I can do with the game so I bought it.

Very true. Designing in creative is a much simpler way of doing things - especially the part later in these videos where I stuff up the symmetry on the armor :P

How you can save the ships as blueprint on xbox?

Same

​@@crazy_nicc791press RS and copy to clipboard. Then press RB+b and press new from clipboard

Very much the same. I get a basic frame of a ship built in Creative to see if the concept will work. Then I take said ship into my personal survival world and test there, making tweaks such as more storage/etc. as needed because in creative mode thrusters generate like 10x lift and your hydrogen/batteries will stay full. Once I get a refined concept, I add color and minor detailing blocks. Using this method I've designed a ship for me and my friends to reign in the server we're on. Essentially it's a ship that can work as a massive warship when every single part is assembled, however for refuelling purposes the ship can split off into 4 separate segments. The main carrier segment contains loads of thrusters, the oxygen and hydrogen refining systems, and an ore refinery. The 2 other segments that split off are each really agile mining ships with turrets and auto cannons. When every part of the ship has been assembled, the whole thing looks like a large like Battle Cruiser, has a total of 8 turrets (4 on the Carrier, 2 rocket 2 assault cannon+2 on each mining ship, both minigun), a plethora of guns (each Miner has 6 frontal auto cannons and a rocket launcher, and the Carrier has Artillery Cannons and Rocket Launchers) I'm not great at ship design so actually getting a working version of this made took me days of work but it works pretty smooth. In order to fully dock the ships so that you don't risk damage to them or the carrier I used merge blocks directly around the Connectors because I read that Connectors only magnetize, they don't make 2 separate grids into one. If you want to undock a Miner you just disconnect Connector and then turn the group of Merge Blocks for the ship named "Dock" off. The ships should smoothly separate, and it can even be done while the Carrier is in motion, it's just the pilot of the Miner can't move until the Carrier pulls forward, and the Carrier can't turn while a Miner is in the process of undocking otherwise smashing will happen as soon as it disconnects.

Yep, those are right up there, especially if you're like me and are constantly forgetting to refill them :P

I use atmo and ion hydrogene is to make fly my enormous monstruosity of carrier overlordthis thing have 90k of blpck for 1 hangar and it have 2 hangar with 6 cruiser inside an difhter are all arround the hull because they have a role of secondary armor and onvasion or defense fighter because overlord cant land onn planet or will replace a part of the ground by a hole with some armor block damaged

Is this game worth buying

@@senorskellig9131 absolutely

You forgot tan

@@senorskellig9131 I dont usually buy games but I bought this ones and all dlcs just cause I thought this guys deserved more of my money. So yes. Worth it

@jose rodriguez > "but I bought this ones and all dlcs" Ah.. so you're part of the reason they're still releasing DLC to this day.... People told me when they added the first DLC (and I also said there was going to be more) 'it's just $3.99 it costs less than a pint at the bar!', 'why are you making such a big deal about the DLC, yeah some functional blocks are included but does it really matter? it doesn't cost that much.' Now theres 5 DLCs and it's $19.95 for all of them, that's literally 4 cents under the full price of the main game. And guess what.. they're releasing more news updates hinting at even more DLC, so it'll cost more than the game to buy them all shortly, Keen took the one game they made that had promise (and killed off all their others) and are draining it for all it's worth with low quality content, and you're encouraging it. The game is going to die, the coders would rather port some furniture or have the art guys make a new skin and sell it for money (along with a couple blocks they should've added a LONG TIME AGO) on their obviously still early access title (that they released just to add DLC) instead of actually working on the gameplay loop, networking issues, bugs and general lagginess. You might say "but they're using the money to work on the GAMEEEE".. Nope.. they bought a mansion with the money. They also blew a good portion of the money on Good AI, one of Rosa's other failed projects.

Bricks are good for one thing: dropping onto other objects to see how exciting you can make the crash ;)

Splitsie or onto _people_ 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

*no, that’s a sphere*

If they were sexy looking bricks then you learned everything you needed to learn ;)

@@Splitsie LOL

No, you just need a design. One of the hardest things to think up.

Ze Great Pumpkinani Build a T shape for starting

SHREK BRICK

I'd much rather see a detailed clips like this, than an abbreviated clips that leaves me guessing at the parts that weren't shown, any day. Also, the thought process behind the design is just as important (if not more so) than the actual construction. Understanding the thought process helps me to better understand how to set about creating my own design, rather than just copying other designs in their entirety. I particularly like your idea of using conveyor tubes to create redundancy in your design. Up to now I have always tried to make my ships as compact as possible, moving things around to get the best use of various ports to minimize the space used. Although this minimizes build materials it has two major flaws. Firstly, it doesn't allow for changes to a design without major re-construction. Secondly, it makes the constructions look very much like a brick outhouse with engines. So far I have only built small ships, but I now think that I am ready to move up a level. So, for me, this mini-series is most welcome, no matter how long it takes. Cheers.

Thanks so much for the feedback :) It's always a challenge in survival to build more when less will get you by as the resources can be a pain to gather, but when I've done gone to the extra bit in the past I've always been happier with the result.

You're very welcome, there's more to come in the next few videos too, hopefully some good tips mixed into the rambling :)

That is a big risk with a hangar bay due to their very large space requirements, but one approach that can help is to have the entrance be at an unusual location, try top, bottom or rear of the ship like the orville and you can end up with a different design. The other thing is to make sure that the rest of the ship is to scale with the hangar bay. The best designs I've looked at on the workshop have a hangar bay that only takes up a small portion of the ship which also helps avoid the brick :)

Keen (the Devs) have been great about backwards compatibility throughout development. One of my series, I ran the same save through over 2 years of weekly updates without it ever breaking 🙂

@@Splitsie That's nice to know going on :)

You must be doing pretty well with english to be able to understand an Australian accent like mine :) I'm glad you're enjoying them though! When you say rotating blocks, do you mean using things like rotors and pistons? I've got a plan to do a tutorial on those in the future. I'll try to come up with a vertical miner or something like that and do a series similar to this ship build on it if I am happy with the design :)

Splitsie i wish i had an australian accent mate

I will admit it has it's upsides when in North America, but not so handy in New Zealand or England :P

Splitsie I understand you perfectly, I am non native english speaker and my english teacher were more british, KZfaq probably helped for the other accents.

Lol :)

You're welcome, glad it gave you a few aha moments :)

The expanse is a pretty decent series to take inspiration from given the tech level isn't too different from SE so you can do a decent job of nailing the style :)

Thanks, glad it's been useful for you :)

You're very welcome, glad they've been helpful :)

I've done things that way before as well, I tend to do things that way when I'm building in creative because in don't need the ship to function until it's complete. For survival I find it handy to have a working ship first. It's good to have a few different approaches though, stops you getting frustrated when things aren't working :)

Awesome :) It's always nice to hear that these have been helpful

700h and More 🙃

I usually just build rocket style ships with overexposed engines, but then all of my designs are or were civilian so I guess that's fine.

I'm glad I've been able to help you build some fun stuff :)

Took me a while to work out how to best edit around those builds for SE :)

It releases on Xbox early April. 😁

Thanks and you're very welcome :)

So very true, it's one of the things I love about x1 inventory (and why I'm happy with the changes coming in the survival patch). Being 'encouraged' to engineer around painful problems like running back and forth a thousand times is a good thing in my book :)

Actually back then they were still labeled in game as oxygen generators, it's taken some time but I now mostly remember to call them by their new name :P

lol It is indeed :)

I have now seen it's origin.

Hopefully so, fingers crossed my design ideas are worth learning :P

Thanks! Coming soon :)

You're very welcome Brett, I'm glad they've been helpful for you :)

Thanks and you're welcome :)

Thanks, glad it helped :)

You're very welcome :)

I'm not completely certain, but that often doesn't work for me in survival (always works in creative)... I'm not sure if I'm just being derpy or if it's meant to be that way :P

@@Splitsie i do believe it still works in survival, it works for me anyway, not sure why it wouldn't be working for you.

Thanks, glad you got a helpful tip out of it :)

Yep, pretty much pick a shape you like the idea of and run with it, the weirder the object you start from I find tends to make for some really cool designs :)

Sounds about right. We're 5 guys playing on a server, and we litterally building a mothership in the form of a picnic table

Glad it helped :)

Thanks! It's really nice to read that people like this stuff :)

Glad I could help again :)

Thanks, hope you found it helpful :)

Thanks :)

You're very welcome :)

But it's so dull :P

Nice, glad it helped :)

That's a good point on the air vents, I don't think they were that expensive back then but I certainly notice them now

@@Splitsie Yeah.. Its something im struggling with right now. Also i just checked, and it looks like its around 330kw. It originally was 0.33kw. Maybe a typo? But the dev team say its by design so i have no clue what the were thinking...

Ah, that's what happens when you place a block in survival mode and because you want to get the recording done quickly you switch to creative mode rather than having to make all the components. When you weld up in creative mode it adds the components to match the level of construction :)

@@Splitsie well that'll do it lol

I didn't use a mobile ramp for this one as I couldn't see a way it would fit without looking worse than the awkward permanent ramp, but I'm glad you appreciate the approach I take. When I'm recording tutorials I imagine I'm explaining things to someone beside me which means I don't need to yell/scream etc and if I think a mistake is a nice way of highlighting a potential point of frustration then I leave them in too :)

That is certainly one of the highlights of space engineers - and kerbal space program :P

If I have the platinum I'd probably go with ion, maybe with a few hydrogen available for extra bursts of speed (such as when running away from something) :P

It's not too far away now - which means I need to think of something special to do for it...

Really this is just a defend for the sakes that my first ship is practically a flying (giant) brick.

Thanks, agree with you about the pvp benefits of a brick design. I'd still probably end up with all sorts of greebling though ;)

Just remember that everyone starts out with bricks, but with enough time you'll start to learn more an more block combos that look good and it gets easier and easier, or at least faster :P

I do, when I started playing space engineers there was no method known to alter key bindings, so just like the weirdness that is a qwerty keyboard, I've become accustomed to it :P

Thank you :)

lol there certainly seem to be at least a few sci fi factions that believe in it ;)

The reason you can't remove the drills from a mining ship and simply put a welder in their place is the size of the conveyor tubes. Because almost none of the components for construction can pass through small tubes you'll be unable to get anything into the welders or out of the grinders, a purpose built ship is almost always necessary. As to building with a ship, it's one of the best reasons to play with realistic inventory settings, they really force the use of engineered solutions like that. The downside is always that ship welders and grinders are unfortunately slower than the upgraded hand held (something that I wish was the other way around), so even with x3 inventory it's normally faster to weld and grind by hand :(

If doing things that way works for you that's awesome. For my own builds I prefer doing a mixture of hull and internal components. Where the parts are large I need to put them down to get an idea of what sort of space I'll require but then the same can be true of hull shapes. If there's a particular curve or other larger shape I want to include in the armour I will put that in first then create some internal structures and facilities to fit to that. If you're building something with an industrial feel you might want to stick to largely squared off shapes, though I still find that adding diagonals to corners helps. The shapes you use should be dictated by the function or aesthetic you choose - which is very much a personal thing and I wouldn't dictate that to anyone, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that. This little series of videos was not intended to be telling people that there is only one way to build, instead it was meant to give insight into what works for me to guide people who might otherwise be struggling :)

Don't worry, it's also directed straight back at me :P

That's certainly the way that I sometimes go about it, I tend to vary my approach dependent on what's most important to me with that ship. If it's form, I'll start with that and try to cram as much in as I can, if it's function I usually end up with something ugly that works, then spend multiple iterations adjusting it until it looks adequate :P And thanks, that last sentence made my day :)

I'm guessing you mean the old atmospheric lander, that's the ship that you used to start the game with and I suspect there's a blueprint of it somewhere on the workshop if you search for 'atmospheric lander' or 'original atmospheric lander' :)