Spacebridge - "Citizens Summit" - Leningrad-Seattle

Spacebridge - "Citizens Summit" - Leningrad-Seattle - 1985

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11 жыл бұрын

The first spacebridge hosted by Phil Donahue and Vladimir Posner, linking live audiences in Leningrad and Seattle, on December 29, 1985. This program touched on sensitive cultural issues, including the famous response by one Russian woman that was translated as "we don't have sex in the Soviet Union."

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@Katyusha666 2 жыл бұрын

"No subject will be off limits" Reminds me of a Soviet joke: "Like America, we have freedom of speech - but we do not have freedom after speech."

@JaneDoe-zr4px 6 жыл бұрын

34:08 CLASSIC Phil Donahue pose. Love it, brings back memories.

@animalcrosley5324 3 жыл бұрын

20:14 I love these two guys. Love it when the Russian audience cheered for it.

@juliac9625 5 жыл бұрын

There’s a great podcast right now covering this whole topic. It’s called space bridge and it’s being hosted by the showcase series from radiotopia. Very very interesting!!

@txm100 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@kinglove4370 3 жыл бұрын

I wish i had known about these tv programs back then(i was only 15 years old in 1985)

@cougsjohnson1 7 ай бұрын

People that weren't around in 1985 have no idea how terrified everyone was that there would be a Nuclear War. In today's standards it's absurd how many Nukes each side had back then.

@sorubitten 5 ай бұрын

I remember Tatyana Snezhina (very wise young woman and it's a pity she's not with us anymore) wrote in poetry about just how horrible such a thing is, she wanted peace for everyone...

@naturevalley10 9 жыл бұрын

Fascinating.

@TheMarkmcintyre 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine doing this between Russia and USA today.

@fess3932 Жыл бұрын

The irony that we have worse relations today, than we did in the middle of the Cold War is funny to me.

@Zhiivago Жыл бұрын

Haha! What about now?! After what they did to Ukraine ...

@Skylinesandsunsets Жыл бұрын

Better yet, imagine having a peoples' discussion between Americans and many others such as Iranians, Chinese, or the Palestinian people.

@maryvalentine9090 10 ай бұрын

They are doing it. It’s called the Internet.

@sorubitten 5 ай бұрын

@@maryvalentine9090 Hahaha yeah. Plus people there can become friends, which is very important. Though I wish it did things. I wish we were all friends.

@vitaly2432 3 жыл бұрын

Have just watched about 25 minutes of this video and another - completely in Russian (link is down in the comment). Was going back and forth between the two videos to avoid listening to the interpreters. Discovered that both of the videos are edited in a way that feels a bit dishonest. Some of the most valid or, at least, interesting points and statements were cut out in both the Russian and the American videos that I was trying to watch. And I just gave up, after realising that I'm not going to get an accurate picture of what both sides said and thought from watching these videos. I recommend everybody to only watch the full video of the space bridge if you'll find one. I wouldn't recommend watching this one, because you will not learn anything, but only get the impression that the American side was completely right with regards to every subject. The problem with the Russian video is the same. Link to the Russian video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oL9-jbJ60diUomg.html

@JoaquinaFinix 3 жыл бұрын

thanks

@QBRec1 Жыл бұрын

The Americans talk as if they know more about the USSR than the Soviet citizens lol

@Chalecosalvavidas 8 жыл бұрын

Do you have the Teen Space Bridge that aired on January 1, 1988, on King 5? It was taped in November 1987, and Jean Enersen hosted on the Seattle side.

@KimSpencerLinkTV 8 жыл бұрын

+John Knapp That is a good question. I;m sure someone at King TV in Seattle would be able to track it down

@DimJongUn 5 жыл бұрын

@@KimSpencerLinkTV unless Jean stole the tape (Nordstrom knows what I mean)

@manuelheller6479 6 жыл бұрын

I have been looking for the tape of this show for a while now but neither Universal, nor NBC, Tegna or King5 could tell me where the tape is. Do you know which archive has the recording of this show? Where did you get it from? Thanks!

@KimSpencerLinkTV 5 жыл бұрын

I was one of the producers (on the Leningrad side) so had my own VHS tape of the show

@cherry_tarot Жыл бұрын

@@KimSpencerLinkTV I'm doing my research about this meeting in 1985 now, so can you give some comments about process, please? If you can, I'll give you my email 📧 P.s. I'm from SPBU and can speak Russian if it's convenient for you

@willmont8258 2 жыл бұрын

Donahue and Pozner should get together again and do another "Citizens Summit" and talk about American-Russian relations as of 2021, with Putin and Biden as the topic.

@ChickenPermissionOG 2 жыл бұрын

pozner is just a communist mouth piece.

@willmont8258 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChickenPermissionOG He was, but after having to admit that he had been wrong all those years, and resigning from the Party, I don't think he would try to push those same ideas today. I think he knows better than to do that now, if he wants to be taken seriously. Even he had to admit that communism was a disaster.

@VadiaMusic 10 жыл бұрын

3:25 what an epic face!

@AZ377 8 жыл бұрын

+VadiaMusic Bubba Gump, anyone?

@alibobo9821 4 ай бұрын

So sad memories for me that , at that time I was only 15 years old and defending my country which collapsed...........

@dannazarenk7473 Ай бұрын

Bro where are u from?

@alibobo9821 Ай бұрын

Sorry ,....... I'm Turkish Uzbek

@Zhiivago Жыл бұрын

@17:27 This girl accompanied Samantha Smith on her visit to the Soviet Union! Is this even known? She was "following" her everywhere. You can see her in many videos and pictures.

@karamiddleton2920 10 ай бұрын

This me so sad in 2023.

@barron8006 6 жыл бұрын

thanks for puting this out. it's a source historical document now. it cuts throught the b.s. of both sides. the americans come off worse here.

@richneuro6121 5 жыл бұрын

Indeed! It is flabbergasting to see how brainwashed Americans were even at that time. They believed to know more about the USSR than Soviet citizens themselves. Such arrogance. In reality, they didn't know shit. And still don't at this day.

@DeetFilm 4 жыл бұрын

@@richneuro6121 Except we have learned that dissidents were thrown in Gulags. Sooo.....

@richneuro6121 4 жыл бұрын

@@DeetFilm that is absolutely not true. Historical research shows that dissidents were generally publicly criticized and had to sign public apologies; about 90% of gulag inmates were common criminals; and remember that the 10% that were political prisoners were in short actual terrorists (terrorism was counted as political crime). Furthermore, gulag inmates only stayed like a couple years in prison and then were released; and except during the world war, the overwhelming majority of them lived quite well in gulag and received a salary during their stay.

@richneuro6121 3 жыл бұрын

Except that in the soviet referendum of 1991, 74% of voters said they preferred to remain in the USSR (and they were not listened to by the oligarchs who couped the union). Furthermore still in 2014, the majority of citizens of ex-socialist countries in eastern europe except in Poland said they lived better under socialism, including eastern germans. Furthermore, what is really miserable and oppressive, is capitalism. Not even counting all the wars, genocides, colonialism and slavery; capitalism kills in 11 years only by starvation as many people were killed by socialism in 100 years for any reason including war. You are just ignorant, and proud to be ignorant.

@richneuro6121 3 жыл бұрын

Capitalism kills 100 million people every 11 years, and this is only counting people who die for hunger-related diseases (FAO). If you add to that people killed by capitalism through all the drivers that are included in the fake "100 million killed by communism" argument; the number of people killed by capitalism in the 20th century, is of about 1.3 Billion. You are just parroting imperialist propaganda that has been debunked literally hundreds of times. Nobody falls for it anymore.

@JaneDoe-zr4px 6 жыл бұрын

20:36

@adamogly1841 Жыл бұрын

I have a confession to make, Vladimir Posner is my father-figure!

@DimJongUn 5 жыл бұрын

18:36 if Mario Lopez and Andy Sandberg had a love child

@PerryCuda 8 жыл бұрын

As someone who lives in Russia both then and now, I honestly don't think much has changed regarding attitudes by Russians towards the west. At least during the Soviet Union 90% of the people distrusted that authoritarian regime. Today's authoritarian regime is liked by exactly that many.

@barron8006 6 жыл бұрын

Polls now and then dispute that claim.

@richneuro6121 5 жыл бұрын

What you say has been debunked first by the Soviet referendum in 1991; and secondly by different series of internationally verified polls. Most Russians believe life was better under the Soviet Union, and voted in 1991 to maintain the Soviet Union and socialism; albeit with some reforms.

@gregorymalchuk272 3 жыл бұрын

Western behavior since 1991 has been extremely provocative against the Russians. Bombing Yugoslavia, admitting former Warsaw Pact nations into NATO all the way up to the borders, which we promised Gorbechev we would not do. And now we slap crippling economic sanctions on them, which mostly crush poor people. It's no wonder they hate us.

@abc-eq9so 2 жыл бұрын

@@gregorymalchuk272 Yup, you are right. I am from Yugoslavia and we never had any issues with Americans, during WW2 we Serbs and Americans were on the same side. We watched American movies and listened to American rock bands. Then we got bombed. I wont say that people here hate you but there is an distrust.

@Zhiivago Жыл бұрын

You wrote this 6 years ago, I can only imagine what you think now. I'm sorry your country seems to be entrenched in this status quo. I wish Russia was European. In every sense. Am I the only naive person who believes Russia could and should be a liberal democracy, a full and equal member of EU and NATO???

@serz1885 4 жыл бұрын

12:20 its person speaking who was not aloud to move from russia in 30 years because he did not agree to work with kgb

@battlet0adz 3 жыл бұрын

Who is after the Redaction? :)

@stanleyliberman691 4 жыл бұрын

Three general feeling among the Soviet citizens back then was that of they had plenty of things they disagreed with the government, they must never talk about that.

@aloha5527 7 жыл бұрын

Russian naive, hot and always talk about peace in the whole world. Americans ask about their salaries, freedom of speech and do not know (they do not want to know) that their country supports the Taliban in Afghanistan, keep the Indians in a tank and do not let the Communists speak. Ussr was a great country to which we owe - we lived in peace, we lived for peace in the whole world. They were beautiful people who cared about world Peace.

@lkrnpk 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and you killed my relatives in Gulag, no freedom of speech, freedom to travel or leave Soviet Union if you wished, forced treatment of those disagreeing in mental institutions etc. Quit you bullshit, russkie (or Soviet sympathizer). My dad and my granddad lived in USSR, they were very happy when it collapsed, despite all the difficulties in 90s. There's no difficulty in talking about peace in the world etc. Even now Putin is talking about family values and peace while people die in East Ukraine and disappear in Chechnya. No different at that time. While they were talking about peace and crap, they were killing people in Afghanistan and later trying to conceal the fact that there was a nuclear catastrophe in Chernobyl.

@richneuro6121 5 жыл бұрын

@@lkrnpk Most people who went into Gulags survived. There were less people in Gulags in the whole history of the soviet union than there are slave-labor prisoners in the US prison-industrial complex. There was freedom of speech; but simply private capitalists couldn't control information; because the information was democratically controlled. All you say, is bullshit imperialist propaganda. You are brainwashed nazi.

@lkrnpk 5 жыл бұрын

@@richneuro6121 sorry, but I don't trust countries and people who kill millions of their own people just like nothing, and then pretend it did not happen. There are two things wrong with Russians, you love ''stability'' more than change and progress, and you are often too stubborn to understand that world will not change and it is you who must change if you want to prosper. I don't care much about US this or that complex, because the US was not killing people in East Europe. I'll let others worry about American imperialism, because I like my burgers and Coke better than bullets and poverty, thank you

@IronSide86 5 жыл бұрын

lkrnpk if you talking about slavery in gulag what do you think about rights of afroamerican people in 1960?

@lkrnpk 5 жыл бұрын

@@IronSide86 I'm Latvian, not Afro American. There are plenty of people whom America has done something wrong to, let them bring up those issues. They have done nothing to me or my family. Furthermore, the US have officially acknowledged it, they have MLK day and all kinds of programs now to help Afro-Americans. With modern Russia - nothing like that, people from Memorial are beaten up and their work is hampered in every possible way. It's a terrible system now in place in Russia... Also, here we're talking about Soviet Union so other countries are irrelevant. Just because USA does something, that does not mean it's how others should behave too...

@MacBjorn 10 ай бұрын

There was a lot in common between the communists in Seattle and those in Leningrad.

@dirtydirtyshisno7284 10 ай бұрын

Soviet citizens: *answers stupid question with a solid answer* Americans: “We don’t believe you you’re just repeating government opinions (while repeating what their gov told them about the other country)” Soviet citizen: “I am speaking my mind these are my own words” American response: “Duhhhh uh no they’re not”

@fess3932 Жыл бұрын

Notice how the Americans levy criticism against their own government. Multiple times, over many issues. But we didn’t hear a single criticism of the USSR from the Russians, instead they want to talk about Peace and Love over and over. Easy but useless talk.

@Zhiivago Жыл бұрын

Well, that's why they had to make a policy with "glasnost"....

@drkioshka 3 жыл бұрын

UwU

@TheBrovin720 5 жыл бұрын

Though the arrogance of the Americans in this documentary is absolutely disheartening, what is even more disheartening is the arrogance that Americans in the comments section continue to spew to this day, over 30 years later. Have Americans learned nothing?

@realtruth4804 Жыл бұрын

they won so no they havent learned anything

@fess3932 Жыл бұрын

Is this a joke? Tough questions are arrogance? Is this how you handle all challenges? Stomp your feet and accuse everyone else of arrogance?

@QBRec1 Жыл бұрын

@@fess3932 the Soviets answered their questions perfectly well and the Americans still weren’t happy. It was like the Americans wanted their preconceived notions confirmed. They talk as if they know about Soviet life better than its own citizens.

@DimJongUn 5 жыл бұрын

In Soviet Russia...