SpaceX Starship: NASA Confirms Risky Orbital Maneuver!

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SpaceX Starship Mechazilla receives more upgrades! What is this? New details regarding the Starship propellant transfer demo! The construction of the second tower continues! Astroscale reveals first pictures of space debris, and the Ariane 6 inaugural flight is getting closer.
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@Whataboutit 28 күн бұрын

Visit ground.news/WAI for space news, and subscribe now for 40% off the same Vantage plan I use. \What are your thoughts? Could simulating the landing ahead of time really help the actual event? Should they consider building a catch only tower?

@anthonylosego 28 күн бұрын

Arm movements should be force calculated (to move them) in the same way an F9 suicide landing burn uses. No more extra energy added than you need to get to exactly where you want to go. Fortunately, SpaceX seems to have this understood well. Should be pretty easy. haha

@anthonylosego 28 күн бұрын

by "them" I mean the chopsticks.

@JamesTyrrellOnline 28 күн бұрын

I was hoping/thinking that they'd use tower 2 to test catching as it's a little removed from the working tower/fuel farm. How long are we expecting between Launch 4 and 5?

@dustup2249 28 күн бұрын

That virtual capture will serve as an AI lesson if anything. X will meticulously record all dynamic mission telemetrics and SpaceX AI will be able to learn and intelligently generate it's own real-time landing stage go/no-go thresholds based on remaining fuel for hover stabilization and other critical parameters. That virtual final hover and oblique retarded descent trial data is essential for not having to repeat the test and waste resources.

@rexmann1984 28 күн бұрын

This guy's English is too good. I want Felix back! 😂

@elricofarmer1561 28 күн бұрын

I REALLY hope that I live long enough to see this stuff get past the testing stage and actually come to fruition. I'm 2 years in to a battle of life and death against cancer. I feel like my prospects are getting less, but am 4 doses in on a Clinical Trial that may prove to be just what I needed to get me past this terrible disease. There is so much cool technology going on here and to be able to watch the various pieces coming together, is extremely rewarding and just leaves me on pins and needles! I'm rooting for your success SpaceX just as hard as I'm rooting for my success! You guys are awesome and keep up the great work. Mankind belongs in space discovering the stars!

@just_archan 28 күн бұрын

I wish you well. And I hope one day you could actually fly on passenger Starship. Best wishes from Poland

@vernepavreal7296 28 күн бұрын

A desire to see the future which SpaceX is giving you will be of immense help to you and your battle good luck friend Cheers

@giddy9052 28 күн бұрын

Good luck my man! 😁👍 Wishing you well.

@user-mu2xu9kp9r 28 күн бұрын

Rooting for you, brother. See you in Boca some day! X

@James-hd4ms 28 күн бұрын

Maybe just be happy with attaining low earth orbit. Then how about re-entry?

@jerrygeeraerts8651 28 күн бұрын

For now they need a catch only tower. If there is an issue during landing it would not affect launches. Also a damaged catch only tower could be repaired more rapidly since the GSE would be minimaly affected

@Nathan-vt1jz 28 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@Raptorman0909 28 күн бұрын

Yeah, this is an important issue, but the amount of space they have available to them at Boca Chica is too limited to have separated launch tower and a separate landing tower. This is the same space limitation that prevented SpaceX from building a proper flame diverter and flame trench. The mention of damage to the vertical tanks from the shockwaves during launch highlights the problem of not having a proper flame diverter and flame trench and also points a finger at how damage to the rockets have happened. Those dangerous shockwaves are not limited to effecting the vertical tanks and that the rockets are also vulnerable to the damage from the shockwaves. In every launch of the Starship/SuperHeavy it has been obvious that a substantial amount of gas is being vented and it is quite likely that the cause of this heavy venting is due to damage to the plumbing caused by those shockwaves.

@Lappillainen 28 күн бұрын

Nothing is minimally affected if that booster can't light its engines and roars through chopsticks 😂😂

@ericblanchard5873 28 күн бұрын

Agreed completely, but they don't want to waste time, which will inevitably waste more time while they have to rebuild a whole new launch pad and chopsticks after it crashes through and explodes after failing to light and perfectly aim itself due to its super huge massive size, weight and height.

@johnd.7792 28 күн бұрын

Seems logical to me. I doubt they will try it by the 5th launch... imma guess 12th or so flight. Hopefully, I'm wrong, and it happens sooner and works.

@Tinman_56 28 күн бұрын

A catch only tower makes more sense than ruining the OLIT with a bad catch. Ships would have to be transferred to Megabay anyway for refurbishment. With OLIT intact, launch another ship.

@RoadkillbunnyUK 28 күн бұрын

This is where I have been for a long while. It would surely be move efficient and possibly cheaper to have a separate catch tower/s away from the launch tower/s to achieve the rapid reusability and launch cadence. The risks and the time to make catches with a full launch pad underneath have got to be too big.

@iamaduckquack 28 күн бұрын

Say they build a dedicated catch tower but nothing else, how are they going to make the booster safe and then what will they put it on?

@markmonaghan2309 28 күн бұрын

If you can land without it , why complicate it .

@Tinman_56 28 күн бұрын

@iamaduckquack booster needs to leave the pad to be checked and refurbished after every launch and land so it needs to go back to the megabay for repair. That's what the transporters are for.

@iamaduckquack 28 күн бұрын

@@Tinman_56 Yes, but people can't go near it until it's been made safe, such as fully detanked, depressurised etc

@merrillalbury8214 28 күн бұрын

I like a catch only tower for the first few catches.

@mste456 28 күн бұрын

i was thinking the same. perfect the process then move it to the olit

@alaskandonut 28 күн бұрын

Maybe even just for the foreseeable future.

@i-love-space390 27 күн бұрын

No. They will need it permanently. Remember the Space Shuttle *only* had a disaster every 100 flights or so. But when they did, it set the program back almost 2 years each time. Now imagine a Starship being recovered on the Stage 0 during operations WHILE A SUPER HEAVY IS SITTING ON THE PAD. That is how Elon planned this thing. If you destroy Stage 0, your entire fleet of boosters and Starships are out of action until you repair the extremely expensive and complicated Stage 0. A landing pad is much less costly and easier to repair. It could shuttle the vehicles back to the launch pad using a rail system. And you could get the damned Super Heavy out of the way, before your recover the Starship.

@tomholroyd7519 28 күн бұрын

They should REALLY do a hop and catch. REALLY

@Grunttamer 28 күн бұрын

If I was in charge I would put that off as long as possible, they only have one mechazilla and if they damage it they can’t do any other tests

@HOANGNAM-jm6oc 28 күн бұрын

@@GrunttamerI remember spacex has 2 mechazilla, right?

@zsigmondfeher4624 28 күн бұрын

Stop spamming

@Grunttamer 28 күн бұрын

@@HOANGNAM-jm6oc I didn’t think they built the second one in Texas I thought they built it at KSC

@iamaduckquack 28 күн бұрын

Yes there is a tower with arms attached at KSC but it's far from finished. The only working launch platform is the one in Boca Chica. @@Grunttamer

@scottdufferland 28 күн бұрын

The ducks on the booster LMAO 13:03🤣😆So funny

@fridaycaliforniaa236 28 күн бұрын

Yeah, I wasn't ready XD

@walter2990 27 күн бұрын

They don't look real to me. They'd be the world's largest ducks. Compare the sizes of the ducks, to the 19 meter diameter of the booster.

@kneekoo 27 күн бұрын

@@walter2990 Well, everything is bigger at Starbase - even the ducks. 😆

@scottdufferland 27 күн бұрын

@@walter2990 It is a photoshop joke

@NeonVisual 28 күн бұрын

Comparing the Luna Starship to the original Apollo Luna lander is crazy. It's like going from Wright Bros directly to 747 with no steps in between.

@alexwaldfried8994 28 күн бұрын

TJ, you’re doing great! Getting comfortable and finding your rhythm. Excellent work and we’re all happy you’re part of the team!

@aalhard 28 күн бұрын

2:10 Engineers don't do the refurbishment. Workers do. Show respect!

@King_Trigg 28 күн бұрын

Soo mechanical engineers don’t count?!

@aalhard 28 күн бұрын

@@King_Trigg , they were mentioned. The larger portion was not

@Xylos144 28 күн бұрын

Second tower seems prudent, mostly so if the launching tower is damaged from the launch, the catching tower is still functional.

@peteehrlich1472 28 күн бұрын

Not prudent.. they need 2 launch towers to launch 2 rockets minutes or seconds apart to do fuel transfers in space. So both towers need to catch both boosters or this ain't gonna work.... from what SpaceX has done the last few years I have no doubt they will do just that! Catch 2!

@mattmorse830 28 күн бұрын

@@peteehrlich1472while that is definitely the plan for when the plan for the original artimus 3 rolls around, the current plan for next year's ship to ship transfer will be both launched from the one tower were the first ship will stay in orbit while waiting for the refule ship to come up.

@saturntechnologies1350 28 күн бұрын

Petition for felix to go skinhead when they catch the first booster

@zebo-the-fat 28 күн бұрын

or... have him shave off half his beard... just the left side!!

@dillonbledsoe7680 28 күн бұрын

Copy n paste

@dillonbledsoe7680 28 күн бұрын

Or they copied you

@saturntechnologies1350 28 күн бұрын

@@dillonbledsoe7680 yep they copied me so original of them

@saturntechnologies1350 28 күн бұрын

@@dillonbledsoe7680 and it’s a porn account which is even worse

@i-love-space390 27 күн бұрын

That has always been my contention. SpaceX should separate launch of Super Heavy from the recovery operation. The separate landing tower could have a rail transport system to move the boosters and Starships back to the Launch tower for Mechazilla to grab them and remount them for the next launch attempt when the faster turnaround operations begin. At present, the launch cadence is still very slow, so no need to build the rail transporter, just the catching system. The catching tower should be sufficiently separated from the launch area so as to prevent a catching "mishap" and subsequent RUD from damaging the extremely valuable Stage 0 machinery. The catching tower would be cheaper and simpler since it likely does not need the fueling system, and the water protection system could be much less powerful, since only one engine would be firing during recovery. Also, the Super Heavy would come down first and be removed before Starship is recovered. (The other stupid thing about the single Stage 0 doing the recovery is that you would have a Starship being recovered while a Super Heavy is already sitting there on the launch mount.) That entire original plan is a huge recipe for disaster.) The stakes are just too great. The launch tower and infrastructure is so expensive and difficult to repair that damaging it is too costly in money and time. If Stage 0 gets damaged or destroyed, it makes an entire fleet of Super Heavies and Starships unable to launch.

@The_Bookman 28 күн бұрын

I love the essential of what you do, but your vids these days feel so clogged up with sponsorship and self-promotion. It's tiresome. I know you have to do what you have to do, but I am putting in my tiny vote for more content, less guff, if possible.

@aliandrews1103 25 күн бұрын

Also I wish this bloke would stop twisting his neck around so much it's really off putting.

@erichansen7020 24 күн бұрын

They must be bleeding cash. Their metrics are pretty good but I seriously doubt they can sustain their overhead unless they can get to 1 or 2 million subs.

@andreapinaroli974 23 күн бұрын

Indeed it really looks like they’re taking some me-time when they start promoting the sponsor, the helicopter guys and their patreons mid-video. The most unprofessional thing they’re doing by far

@sablephilips9327 23 күн бұрын

@@andreapinaroli974 I know they've angered other space photographers by essentially stealing prime spots at Boca Chica without consideration of protocol and acting like they own the place. The Twitter exchanges were quite entertaining.

@Jumbo_Smooth 22 күн бұрын

@@sablephilips9327 Proof or it didn't happen

@satoshimanabe2493 28 күн бұрын

Why do they need two towers to do a ship-to-ship prop transfer? So they could easily launch it first, then days or weeks later, they can launch the "chaser." The name also implies it is intended to be launched after the "target" ship. A future prop depot would be expected to stay in orbit long-term, so launching the "chaser" later is consistent with this concept.

@simongeard4824 27 күн бұрын

Also, leaving the first ship on orbit for a while gives them a chance to evaluate their ability to store cryogenic propellants over time.

@BMrider75 28 күн бұрын

At 10:20, a quick correction TJ - The CFA piling technique is the concrete is pumped in, under pressure, as the auger is slowly lifted out. THEN the huge rebar cage is lowered into the liquid concrete. (This is so the shaft doesn't collapse in on itself)

@michaelotoole1807 28 күн бұрын

id assume they would use grout then displace the grout with concrete after the rebar cage is lowered into the grout. would the act of lowering the rebar disturb or displace the aggregate in the concrete making the pour not as homogenous. i also didn't stay at a holiday inn last night.

@BMrider75 28 күн бұрын

@@michaelotoole1807 every batch of concrete is given a Slump Test immediately before pumping. It's a fast setting mix, so there's real time pressure on getting the rebar cage in swiftly . It's amazing watching a 20m /60ft cage just disappear into seemingly level ground. The amount of sloppy concrete displaced is minimal, and in 45 minutes it's certainly solid/cured enough that nothing is moving. (If slump test is not right, or too much time has passed, the whole mixer load is dumped)

@zerothprinciples 26 күн бұрын

With a decent launch cadence they do not really need two towers for this demo. Launch the target into some parking orbit, then take a few days to launch the chaser. They can use a similar process on landing, in any order, if they wanted to catch both.

@imconsequetau5275 10 күн бұрын

A breath of sanity !

@elizabethhoeppner8881 28 күн бұрын

I just loved how the ducks loved booster for skyscraper pond

@ghost307 28 күн бұрын

I'd like to see a minimum of 3 successful 'simulated' soft landings in the water before moving to the tower. If the catch fails, I can just see the agency in charge of the beach demanding that the entire program end.

@davidliefrink9818 28 күн бұрын

nah to much at stake here though pencil lickers would love to feel important for once in their lives and that would mean a delay wich is also a bad idea with the china men wanting to go to the moon as well!

@user-hc9lp3hb1r 28 күн бұрын

They have crashed and exploded Starship on the SpaceX launch site TWICE without the "agency in charge" wanting to shut the program down so I can't see how a third time with the booster would be any different.

@geraldhowse8597 27 күн бұрын

I'd like to see 78 landings in Ocean first. How about that. Checkmate.

@i-love-space390 27 күн бұрын

Even if not, destroying Stage 0 thoroughly, as in a huge RUD, would take a lot longer to repair than that first test flight damage. (And money too.) I still think separating launch pad from recovery pad permanently is the safest thing and the best in the long run. The reason SpaceX iterates is that Elon never thinks far enough ahead to anticipate real disaster. God save us from "optimists". They can never see disasters that normal people see as obvious. Elon has to give the pessimists more authority to challenge him without losing their positions.

@ghost307 27 күн бұрын

@@i-love-space390 Although a booster RUD would indeed be very energetic, I think a lot of people fail to take into account that the booster's tanks would be almost empty.

@robertboudreau8935 28 күн бұрын

It makes a lot of sense to have a tower designed only for catching. Its easy to hand the spacecraft over to a transporter that brings them to the OLM.

@mikemerlo4156 26 күн бұрын

Agree, 2 "catch only" towers would be the smart move. If there is a mishap, they would still have launch capability.

@mikek5393 28 күн бұрын

They should use a Crain to simulate a booster landing and have the tower catch the hanging booster. They could do this several times to iron out the kinks

@mgrayjr1 27 күн бұрын

A catch-only tower seems the way to go to not risk major damage to launch facilities from a catch failure.

@strungrender1779 28 күн бұрын

I love the role reversal! You both make this channel incredible and everything it should be. Thank you!!

@MrKellymcilrath 27 күн бұрын

Great update WAI, thank you!!

@rgberry69 23 күн бұрын

great video TJ.

@gregmgm06 28 күн бұрын

Excellent Job TJ!! Looking forward to more of your videos!

@ccudmore 28 күн бұрын

The landings look so easy in the animations.

@MartinBrenner 28 күн бұрын

Falcon 9 landings look so easy now.

@James-hd4ms 28 күн бұрын

Why isn’t that enough? Way more sensible.

@papa.mike01 28 күн бұрын

I’m really liking your coverage WAI. Thanks guys.

@jonathanmabardy 28 күн бұрын

A catch only tower would actually be better than making a second full tower in my opinion since it wouldn’t need to have any propellant infrastructure or launch pads and would still keep the main tower out of harm

@jessicatymczak5852 28 күн бұрын

As for refueling in orbit, they need to build a dedicated refueling depot, it would be safer and more effective. They could put a robot arm that would connect to and stabilize starship for refueling

@smavtmb2196 28 күн бұрын

Why (hasn't) SpaceX replaced both large chopstick actuators? It doesn't makes sense to replace only one if it's actually about making the system faster for booster catches. Glad to finally see a rendering of the second launch tower and OLM that has them facing towards empty land instead of facing in the same direction as the original tower and OLM. By building them facing empty land the infrastructure will be far better protected from possible damage. In that case the second tower even acts as a protective barrier. So hopefully that's SpaceX plan.

@georgewood2564 25 күн бұрын

Love your presentation TJ.

@Jamie_Elizabeth192 28 күн бұрын

Good episode TJ. Another great episode. Maybe we'll get a TJ and Felix show. Or would that be Felix and TJ?

@robertkerby2581 27 күн бұрын

Great updates on SpaceX and whatnot! Well done!

@dragonfly-7 28 күн бұрын

TJ's "remember to gently tap that like button ..." is in very much contrast to Felix' bold "REMEMBER TO SMASH THAT LIKE-BUTTON !!!" ... 🤓... To both of you - and the team behind: You are doing an excellent job ! You rock !!! On the Ariane 6: If I'm not too wrong it was the Ariane 5 with a picture-perfect launch bringing JWST into a trajectory which preserved a lot of fuel to possibly extend the operation duration of JWST. So: Why sort of kidding on ESA launch vehicles ... ? SCNR.

@guaminater 28 күн бұрын

Great Job TJ! Keep it UP!

@bretthathaway1951 25 күн бұрын

Personally, I love the exuberance of the SpaceX team and continual striving to excel and advance. I believe that any attempted "catch" of the booster should ne happen until the new OLM has been bult and tested, as the last thing needed is a catch go awry and then be left with the repair scenario. Go SpaceX and Starship !!! Wish I could afford to actually join, but a job layoff precludes that, unfortunately. I have been a space watcher since Mercury missions and thoroughly love all things space related. Keep up the great work WIA!!!

@lanav9679 28 күн бұрын

Love the Ground News ! Super Cool ! Wow Love It Dude !

@raceway3982 26 күн бұрын

Great channel/segment...can't wait for next launch!

@Angusrangus344 26 күн бұрын

WAI is so underrated. Keep up the great work guys ❤

@cbrucesbiz 26 күн бұрын

Thanks for a comprehensive detailed report. So, so good.

@archiewilliams3438 28 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@alquinn2695 27 күн бұрын

I agree that a Catch Only tower is a great idea! No risk to launch apparatus and modifications can occur without regard to damaging surrounding equipment. What about having two opposed sets of Mega Arms? That way any slight inaccuracies could be nullified when both sets of arms converge on the First Stage!

@noobgear 27 күн бұрын

TJ is getting better and better 🎉

@deeyadeli1435 28 күн бұрын

Catch only tower makes perfect sense. Safer for the launch infrastructure and you don't have to worry about burning up components on stage 0. Would also speed up the launch process in the future to be able to PM stage 0 without having to worry about the recovery phase.

@JurassicJenkins 25 күн бұрын

TJ, it’s nice to see your personality, mannerisms and style develop. I enjoyed this video, keep up the good work! ❤

@artofplanets 27 күн бұрын

Ok here’s the scoop. Once the Starship gets stuff up to orbit, do we need that same body to land on the moon? We (they) can deliver full light fuel tanks and modules to orbit that can be configured there into a moon mission. (Refer to Lego for technical info). A heatshield doesn’t need to be lifted and managed to the moon and can be left in a convenient earth orbit for meetup later. A lighter and a more lunar landing appropriate configuration (wider, shorter, with skis) going to the moon.

@timwildauer5063 28 күн бұрын

5:50 except that’s not true at all. They’ll launch the target, then launch the chaser about a month later, which is all they need for full stack testing. Only one tower is needed. They said that at the presentation…

@eamonia 24 күн бұрын

It blows my mind that there's so many reoccurring viewers that aren't subscribed yet. They put a _ton_ of work into the production, reliably crank out content like clockwork and haven't even hit the 500,000 subscriber mark yet. What gives? If you _still_ haven't just click the damn button already, folks. You don't even have to turn on those annoying notifications or anything just hook 'em up with a sub. The more subscribers they get, the more money they make and the better their content is gonna be. It's a win win situation for all so if you haven't done it, hook 'em up, already. To the stars!

@jcoghill2 28 күн бұрын

That red stuff is high temp RTV. The same adhesive they used on the space shuttle tiles.

@ioanbota9397 27 күн бұрын

Its so powerful

@arthurrobey4945 26 күн бұрын

All fascinating theatre. Have you ever heard of the Battle cruiser "Helencotter"? Not many have . Linda Moultin Howe has. It's big.

@chrisbailey5147 28 күн бұрын

That actually makes perfect sense, with the chaser being "stationary" during the transfer. At first, the refueling starships will be heavier, making them take more fuel for the same delta-V as the lighter craft. Can't wait to see this test!

@TomLeys 27 күн бұрын

In the future the fuel depot StarShip will vary in weight from the exact same as the launching refueling StarShip to substantially more as it becomes full. After the Depot has been used to refuel say a moon ship, the depot then becomes the lightest object again. So I imagine you want both the depot and the refueling chasers to be able to be the maneuvering ones. When a StarShip visits a depot to collect fuel, that StarShip is definitely going to be much lighter than the full depot and so yes the chaser should maneuver.

@csspostal 27 күн бұрын

When they were working on the barges originally I thought that was what they were going to use to try and catch the booster and ship in middle of ocean in case anything went wrong during the attempts. This way they keep their ability to launch. Once ocean landing become routine then start landing like falcons on land.

@tmuny1380 28 күн бұрын

They should have a giant catchers mitt to catch it !

@tmg7476 27 күн бұрын

I originally thought when they acquired Massey's that it would be used for a catch only tower.

@joelweinert3580 28 күн бұрын

Maneuvering the recipient tank makes sense because it will have substantially less weight/inertia so it would be energy efficient.

@lazarus2691 28 күн бұрын

For this demo yes, and probably for the first one or maybe two refuels of a depot. But after that it's easier to manoeuvre the tanker. So if you're doing say a dozen refuels, it's probably simpler to just forgo manoeuvring the depot at all and just always do it with the tanker.

@rogercorbett122 28 күн бұрын

They still need to do the simulated landing on the sea to test slow speed manoeuvring, speed and positioning. They also should have the second launch tower and system in place before they potentially damage the current one in the first attempt at a catch.

@faisalsvideoworld 21 күн бұрын

cant wait for the ship to ship orbital transfer test and the orbital trash removal will be interesting.

@MattyJ55046 28 күн бұрын

I would build sensors at the catching points of both the arms and the rocket.

@gordonicus4637 27 күн бұрын

I think a catch only tower would be a good idea.

@hawkdsl 28 күн бұрын

Big no for catch only tower. The drama and potential catastrophe induced failure is sweet sweet gravy for The spectator. It's what makes all this fun

@TaterTotsAttorney 25 күн бұрын

"...and remember to... keep...looking...up." -The Star Hustler

@sm3ttz 25 күн бұрын

TJ doing a great job!!

@Andrew-13579 28 күн бұрын

So, there will probably be “tanker” versions of Starship as well as the cargo and crewed, both lunar and Martian. Maybe the tanker version needs 2 or 4 mini Canada arms to grapple the receiver Starship and pull it in for precise alignment. They could perhaps stow, folded, into small fairings on the dorsal side (docking side) of the tanker. The grappling targets could be stainless steel balls like a ball hitch on a pickup truck. Maybe every Starship could carry two arms and two hitches: arm left and hitch right toward the top of the ship and hitch left and arm right near the bottom. This way, any two Starships could come together and have arms grapple ball-hitch in 4 places, pulling the ships together with precision and holding steady without using so much thruster propellant. The whole docking could be automated.

@leifhietala8074 27 күн бұрын

A catch-only tower is intriguing. Galaxy Brain: catch-only tower offshore, on a decommissioned oil rig. More of final approach is over water, abort in any direction in Egads Event, SpaceX' water operations already familiar processes.

@hamiltonjones9863 28 күн бұрын

I am 13 and when a new WAI video drops it get me so excited

@richardknapp570 27 күн бұрын

I, too, would like to see a "Catch only tower" for the first few attempts...or at least a 2nd tower. From what I had previously heard, the second tower is not required for the fuel transfer test; there is sufficient time to stack and launch another combo within the test window. Did some changes get announced?

@aalhard 28 күн бұрын

6:24 It is the target for the fuel. Makes perfect sense.

@satoshimanabe2493 28 күн бұрын

Exactly. The prop depot would be the target for the tanker ships. I would also expect the prop depot to have the QD, so it has a way to refill standard ships. It also prevents the QD from going through a lot of re-entry cycles.

@taavetmalkov3295 28 күн бұрын

Hey WAI, do you know how the extended ship wil be lifted on top of the extended booster? Would it still suit the current tower height... 🤔

@linuxxr 28 күн бұрын

ya catch-only tower for the first catches then install the mount pad assy

@jamescobban857 28 күн бұрын

IMHO the soil they are piling on the site for OLIT2 may not just be to squeeze water out of the soil to create a solid foundation. It may be to raise the entire OLIT higher above the water table. The damage caused during IFT1 was largely because the heat of the exhaust *boiled* the underground water, causing it to, in essence, explode! Lifting the entire OLIT 6m/20' farther from the water table provides a lot of more efficient design options for hydraulic sound management. For example it may be desirable to deflect as much of the unavoidable noise of the booster out to sea and away from terrestrial neighbours, including the wildlife of the nature preserve. At LC39A SpaceX has dismantled the original OLM and presumably intends to implement the same design at LC39A and at BC OLIT2. Note that LC39A at KSC is *already* on top of a thick mound.

@donaldautry345 27 күн бұрын

Question . . . if they plan on using the original QD configurations won’t one of them have to be mirrored? and if so how will they fuel it

@edwardnorton7463 28 күн бұрын

I think that it would be very advantageous to just build a catch tower. It would decrease complexity and in the event that something catastrophic happened there would be no damage to the OLM.

@snakevenom4954 28 күн бұрын

The OLM is strong enough to take a hit from the booster. And the blast wouldn't be that bad. It'll be mostly empty by that point. Very little shrapnel too since Super Heavy isn't designed to release shrapnel

@Acclaim93 28 күн бұрын

F it! Go for a catch on 4! 😂

@BrendanBlomfield-ed4ky 25 күн бұрын

Cool

@philliplevine9167 28 күн бұрын

I dont think a catching "Tower" but a Catching cart makes the most sense, it can straddle a trench and after catch rolls over the and sets on transport vehicle of even to stationary stand that is where boosters and ships are lifted by launch tower.

@surferdude4487 27 күн бұрын

Perhaps a catch only tower makes sense until they have booster catching down. In the plan that Space-X has for rappid reusability, however, adding a step to move the booster from the catch tower back to the launch tower, is counter-productive. "The best part is no part. The best process is no process."

@DouglasLippi 28 күн бұрын

4:43 lol duct tape in space! Engineering genius.

@anthonyschirillo4377 28 күн бұрын

Build a tower that is meant for catch, but can be a backup launch pad

@killvish99 26 күн бұрын

Omg is that a real picture? 13:03

@imconsequetau5275 25 күн бұрын

LOL, no.

@GR8SALAD 28 күн бұрын

I still think catching is a crazy idea... it just seems so risky compared to landing like F9 does, but obviously I don't know all the risks and benefits to use superheavy this way

@ericperkins3078 28 күн бұрын

Catch-only tower absolutely. You don't crap where you eat.

@allanrose3661 28 күн бұрын

Want the location of the second orbital pad mean that launches from it will overfly the first orbital pad and its tank farm?

@jnrickards 28 күн бұрын

Yes, a catch only tower, away from the launch site. No need for a quick disconnect or any fuel loading hardware, no launch table to destroy and far enough away to protect the tanks should a catch fail and the booster fall.

@michaelholmes8848 28 күн бұрын

Chin down mate

@francocastilloAR 28 күн бұрын

B13 is unlikely to do a static fire before flight 4.

@dawsonrivers23 22 күн бұрын

They'll catch it🎉

@conradnelson5283 28 күн бұрын

I catch on tower would be smart and probably a lot cheaper then the launch Tower.

@ianwalker4740 28 күн бұрын

I would like to see a "hot gas thruster in the end" also.

@Nathan-vt1jz 28 күн бұрын

I think a separate catch tower is a really good idea, so they can practice without jeopardizing future launches.

@tonyug113 28 күн бұрын

i do wish WAI would hold their images for a little longer, i'm constantly having to backtrack and freeze frame -- like when they showed the chops closing (i totally missed firest time), and the changes to the raceway.

@grantfryer1 28 күн бұрын

A catch only tower would seem a no brainer to me.

@zerokelvin-273 28 күн бұрын

Questions it's obvious the first starship would be the one to do the maneuvering for fuel transfer the less hardware needed on the tanker the more fuel it can carry why weight it down with the additional equipment plus the lander version will need all the equipment to dock with the Luna obiter so might as well make use of it

@mavi5477 28 күн бұрын

YES, to a catch only tower, on a barge in the ocean for booster and starship. When perfected, like after a year or two, then booster and ship can land on OLM. I think we risk huge explosion with the booster and or ship on the existing OLM.

@baileyrahn266 28 күн бұрын

I'm in favor for the catch only tower.

@wildwestcoast604 26 күн бұрын

“enough about me” LOL dude just said his name

@A1A. 28 күн бұрын

Just imagine how many cool big payloads could disposable 2nd stage starship bring to orbit.🥺 Cant wait to see more huge spacestations projects pop up in to reality!😫

@ThatOpalGuy 28 күн бұрын

Maybe in 20 years