I hate it when people say it’s a lisp too. It all stems from English speakers perceiving it to be a lisp due to those letters not being pronounced as they are in English as well as most Spanish speakers pronouncing them all the same as an S. If Spanish had adopted the Greek letter theta and used it to represent the z/ce/ci sound, no one would be calling it a lisp. Instead we’d be asking why Latin Americans don’t pronounce the theta

As in Spanish native speaker let me offer this piece of advice to those who learn my language: it is okay to pronounce the Spanish way or the Latin American Way but you always need to be consistent. Use the pronunciation pattern of your choice but never mix patterns.

This is one of the stupidest things English speakers say about European Spanish, considering the English language also has the same sound: Throw, think, thanks thought, birth, thunder, thin, threat, math, fifth...

This is the first time I have heard the differences explained so clearly. I learned to speak Spanish here in California. The way we speak is pronouncing the 'c' as 's'. My hairdresser is from Spain, (Madrid). I was taken aback when I heard her pronounce many words using the 'th' sound. For a while, I suppose there was something different from the way I learned Spanish from the way my hairdresser speaks it. Now, I watch this very informative video, and it all makes sense to me. Mucho Gracias! or ... as my hairdresser would say... Mucho Gra'th'ias!

So english speakers say, "I' ll THink about it, THank you" but "Gra/th/ias, cora/th/ón" is a lisp? 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I am trying to imagine how to pronounce calzoncillos with a mixture of spanish and argentinian accent , like : " calthonthishos " 😅

Hola Patry! Soy lingüista y mi investigación se centra en el uso de Distinción, Seseo, y Ceceo en Andalucía. Has explicado muy bien y de manera divertida al público cómo funcionan estos sistemas. Lo único que me gustaría compartir contigo es que investigaciones recientes han demostrada que EN GENERAL la Distinción se está convirtiendo en la manera de pronunciación más común en Andalucía, aún en sitios que históricamente han sido "seseantes", como, por ejemplo, la ciudad de Sevilla. Muchas gracias por todos estos vídeos tan interesantes y divertidos. Un abrazo desde los Estados Unidos!

You should make clothing merch that says "I don't have a lithp"😅

My favourite is Zaragoza.

Thanks, thanks, thanks, this is going to resolve a lot of arguments amongst los estudiantes en mi escuela de Español !!!

It makes a huge difference in being able to understand Spanish Spanish to have this explained. Thank you! As an American, I usually find Mexican Spanish the easiest to understand. Venezuelan Spanish speakers sound pretty close to Spanish Spanish. My trainer who was Mexican and Honduran said Venezuelans sound “proper” or “posh.” It’s funny, in the Americas, with whatever language, we all think Europeans sound more “posh.” 😂

I wonder why Castillian Spanish's C and Z are perceived as a lisp where English TH isn't. Whether it's something about the position of the consonant in a word, or purely the comparison to other dialects of Spanish. Unfortunately, being a Native Spanish speaker who uses Seseo, I can't tell. Maybe a non Spanish speaker who'd been exposed to that accent long before encountering other dialects of Spanish could have an insight... For what it's worth, I absolutely love Castillian Spanish

Even Latin Americans make fun of Spanish people for speaking like this. So it's not just an Anglo thing.

In fact, when people out there tries to mock our peninsular Spanish variety, they usually do a Ceceo accent instead of a proper Distinguidor accent from Castile. Somehow, they (wrongly) think we do not use the S sound at all.

Spanish speaker here too! And I'm sorry to disagree with other comments, but IMHO I think that, given the choice, it would make life much easier for anyone trying to learn Spanish to go for the variety that distiguises /s/ and /th/ (let's call it 'neutral' Castilian Spanish). That way, they'll probably experience far less problems with the spelling of any word with these sounds. And this is clearly a BIG help considering how prevalent these sounds are in our lexicon! I'm trying to be pragmatic here. Spanish is, fortunately, a highly phonetic language (i.e. when you know the way something sounds, you generally know how it should be written, so remembering just one thing is enough). But this 'advantage' is lost to a significant degree when you decide to focus on variety with 'seseo' or 'ceceo' (since these varieties are in themselves less phonetic), thus making your life as a student more difficult! In fact, I've noticed that even some NATIVE Spanish speakers that 'sesean' or 'cecean' have some spelling problems in this regard... And they are NATIVE speakers! Can you imagine the difficulties for a non-native speaker? That being said, I agree that my suggestion can sound a bit inconvenient for non-native Spanish speakers living in an area where 'seseo' or 'ceceo' occurs, but I still think it pays off in the long run. And for those learners living in their home country, I see no reason why not to go for the neutral variety , since they can be sure they'll have no problem at being understood by anyone (so, no downsides in this regard), and they'll have less trouble when it comes to the spelling of any word with these sounds involved!

As a Canarian I can tell you that I use el seseo. However, I've got no problem using the 'th' sound as in think or thanks. As an ESL teacher many of my Canarian students have problems when pronouncing, for example, think... Many pronounce it as 'sink'. As much as they hear mainland Spanish accent on the radio or TV, it's still difficult for them. My problem is speaking among Canarians & mainland Spanish people at the same time... My Canarian friends look at me kind of surprised😮😮😮. My mainland friends say that they have never heard my Canarian accent. 😅😅😅😅 To tell you the truth, I do not know what the hell accent I'm using. 😊

If anything, in Spain we distinguish more sounds than most Spanish speakers. And the "seseo" is a great disadvantage when learning Spanish, because it causes many misspellings.

Thank you for this video! I have always learned el castillano that is using ceceo. So I can correctly write the words knowing where tu put c, z or s.

Man(th)ana is the first world I learned and it didn't make sense until I sow your video, thanks

Still did not convince me Spaniards have a purposeful lisp.

Patry, I just recently found and subbed to your channel; it is helping me so much!! Thank you so much for the content!

Extra info: we can find distinction S/Z(/C) not only on Spain but also in Andorra, Equatorial Guinea and between several Castilian speakers from Morocco and Western Sahara (though Western Sahara more than Morocco as Morocco only invaded W. Sahara after their independence from Spain not that many years ago, therefore the presence being more evident - it is in decline, thought).

I always learn so much from your videos, thank you.

Great video, thanks for explaining this!

Mañana nos vamos a caZar vs. Mañana nos vamos a caSar. 😂😂😂😂😂 mas vale NO equivocarse. ❤

I super love this video. It is so nice to have a native teacher.❤

They call it a lisp because they’re ignorant and assume that every language pronounces the same as English

It is funny. Does the same thing happen with the English spoken in North America regarding the origin of the original pronunciation? It's like thinking that the English don't speak English properly.

A very interesting video with superb explanations and examples. What about the other linguistic peculiarities, such as: loísmo, laísmo y leísmo? I think I "suffer" from leísmo sometimes...

I used to be confused when I first found out that C and Z are pronounced TH and V is pronounced B but I familiarised myself with it eventually

Ese problemita no lo tenemos en Canarias 🤷‍♂️. Yo, como canaria, solo uso el seseo. El verdadero problema aquí es cuando vienen los de la península y te dicen: ‘porfa, di muyayo’.” 😂 al carajo!!! 😂

Russian here. The difference between Spanish and English is the th sound in Spanish usually sits between two vowels which is a quiet rare case in English. That's why the Spanish th is way more pronounced and upfront. It ruins the flow of Spanish which you cannot say about the Latin American way of pronouncing words.

I tried to learn some Spanish via duolingo (which teaches Latin American Spanish) and then....spent six weeks in northern Spain (I did the Camino.) Which means unfortunately my pronunciation is ALL OVER THE PLACE. Now that I'm home (in the United States), I've caught myself saying "Gracias" with the Castillian pronunciation multiple times, even though most other words I pronounce like Latin American Spanish. Oops.

Omg! THANK YOU! 😭 I hate when I hear the lisp thing. Specifically because I’m Spanish and had an actual lisp as a little kid😅

parlo spagnolo e lo preferisco all'inglese. Tuttavia, l'unica volta in cui parlo con la pronuncia blesa è quando non dormo, ho fame e ho abusato di albuterolo e sono costretto ad ascoltare inglese e mi è proibito parlare spagnolo. Ecco, credevo di essere sotto una maledizione, quando per tutto il tempo, mi sono solo arreso alla lingua e all'influenza sbagliate. Grazie a Dio per questa rivelazione.

A famosa lingua presa 😂

That's interesting, the "gracias" shows it nicely!

Wow 30 years ago I have a discussion with a teacher about ceceo con C or seseo con S creyendo (ambos) qué era lo mismo pero que uno de los dos estábamos equivocados en cuanto a la ortografía. 😂😂😂Acá de enterarme que ambos estábamos equivocados. Gracias por desasnarme 👍👍👍😂😂😂

I'm Italian, for me is easier to put s everywhere instead of th sound 😂😅

As an American who speaks Mexican Spanish (live in four Latin American countries), watching this was a bit of a surprise. Very entertaining. Your Limey accent mixed with Spaniard is completely compartmentalized. Pero todo de su presentacion es muy interesante. Gracias. Of course the 'th' sound is surprisingly hard for many countries.

Muchas gracias 🌹💐🌹

I am forced to defend this very point ALL the time in the US. If my audience has any Spanish whatsoever I ask them to consider the word perezoso. I tell them that the majority of the Spanish never pronounce it: Pe Re Tho Tho; if they did, they would have a speech impediment diagnosed as a "Lisp." OR they would be from an area that spoke with a ceceo. PS Even though I know the Spanish disdain it, I make my paella with longaniza AND seafood, And even though I live in Pittsburgh, where fresh seafood is not plentiful, it is nonetheless amazing and my guest are gobsmacked.

"Absolute RUBBISH" 😂😂😂

Menudo esfuerzo para explicarlo!! Gracias!!

It does sound like a lisp though, and when you imitate the way they speak that’s what you do, you emphasize it. 😊

The funniest thing about the words “ceceo” and “seseo” is that you can’t tell them apart if you pronounce them with a Latin American accent. 🤣🤣

También debe pronunciar la B con ambos labios y la V con dientes superiores frontales sobre el labio inferior o me equivoco? De ahí los nombres B labal y V labio dental...?

¿Es verdad que originalmente ñ letra era escrita como nn, y al pasar del tiempo, para guardar más espacio empezaron a escribir una ⁿ encima da la otra n, hasta alcanzar la forma ñ?

I absolutely would not pull out.

Grathias

Once there was a king in London who could not say ‘th’ as in Think so he said Fink instead, he’d walk into a pub and casually order free points of laga please mate, (he was also non-rhotic), it caught on as he was considered cool. Mentira, ni de broma. The th is pronounced in English around the world as th, t, d, f and s depending on which crossroads you’re on. Un saludo

Un video increíble gracias Patry! Es el sonido 'B' como en 'servicio' diferente en las canarias? O se pronuncian como 'serbithio' también? You've helped so much with me learning Spanish, thank you! :)

Si los britanicos no entienden la ley de la gravedad,como demuestran saltando desde balcones a 40 metros de altura,es demasiado pedirles que distingan un transtorno del habla,como el ceceo,de la morfologia semantica de un idioma,como el español.

Fun fact Us in latin america do use the word zumo, but we refer to something else So Jugo is ussually a sweet beberage prepared with the content of a fruit, but if we say Zumo we mean the content of said fruit as natural as possible, no added water or sugar or anything So don't ask for zumo de limón in latin america xD

I don't know if i am crazy but i find so call spanish lisp cute... And i use that in my native language where there is no th sound😂😂😂...

Yo soy bilingüe español inglés, pero prefiero responder en esta oportunidad en español. Patri es una profesora muy guapa y simpática, al estilo de Lucy, una profesora de inglés británico que habla español de España muy bien. Patry es española que habla inglés británico y es rubia como Lucy. Me suscribi a tu canal porque me gusta como enseñas.

those who ignore history jusr repeat the same stupid things over and over, very common in the UK: they speak about the armada ignoring that there were four dsifferent armadasa and that Drake sent the counterarmada next year with even worst results than the first an famous armada invencible

As a half-Spaniard, I really, REALLY, SINCERELY appreciate this video. People act like my Spain spanish is a weird accent or impediment, and it gets on my nerves. Spanish isn't just "Mexican" like people think, and honestly I'm proud of being Spanish and speaking Castilian Spanish, because it's a sign of my Spanish heritage, uniqueness, and individuality

Hola Patry! Soy Joel, vivo en Australia. I learned Spanish in high school, but am no longer fluent ☹️ . I must get back into it. I've just discovered your channel and I must say it's very entertaining. You remind me of my Spanish teacher who was from Madrid. Where abouts in Spain are you from? Also, as a native English speaker who spoke Spanish as a second language I found it easier to adopt the Andalusian/South American style of Spanish than the standard Castillian Spanish. It was also easier to speak in this accent as I had friends at the time from Ecuador and Chile.

Andalucía es preciosa

They do 😂😂😂

When i said Cereza, Theresa thought i was calling her name. 😅

Most of Spanish language speech I've heard for years was from Southern America with the telenovelas about love, betrayal and mentira. Don Gorason de piedra. Cara Suzha (Sucia). When the summer Olympic games happened, Freddy Mercury was on the radio several times a day saying Barselona, Pivaa. Most music have the ts or s pronunciation. Now the BBC and other English speakers bend over backwards to pronounce the names from Spain with a TH. Carlos Alcarath in Ibitha: all day, all night, what the thck? Speakers of most other languages always use their own sounds for foreign names.

Con respecto al seseo (in English lisp, something new I learned today), en España se hace la diferenciación entre la s y la z y c antes de i y e, excepto en partes de Andalucia y las Canarias. En Latinoamerica no existe esa diferencia, y eso no debe confundir al que aprende español como idioma extranjero. Sin embargo, en el oriente de Venezuela, en donde vivo, el seseo existe, aunque se da en el lenguaje informal. Por ejemplo, zapato se dice igual que en España, aunque la palabra casa algunos la pronuncian como caza. Sin embargo, cuando un oriental venezolano sale de su región, tiende a perder el acento de su región y tiende a hablarlo como un caraqueño, que digamos es el acento con el cual se asocia más al venezolano. En mi país hay varios tipos de acento: el central o caraqueño, que es el estándar, el zuliano, el andino (parecido al colombiano estándar), el oriental del que ya les hablé, y el llanero, que también en ocasiones usa el seseo. No conozco en otra nación de Latinoamérica otro caso de seseo como los que existen en Venezuela, a menos que haya un amable suscriptor de este canal que me aclare la duda.

That ceceo let's me use that good old "th" sound. I like.

I always known that a word that starts with “Cal” it’s the same thing when I pronounce it in English…. Lately I’ve been watching “How to learn Spanish” cuz I really want to learn it even though it would take some time. Thank you so much❤️

'D' sound in Spanish which is ð(th sound in English,like the, then)etc. But it's not lisping it's present in English too.

The seseo comes from basque dialects and went south with reconquista.

Recuerda que no todos los andaluces cambiamos los sonidos, yo no lo hago. Y si lo hiciéramos, lo importante es saber escribir sin faltas de ortografía.

How about Alvaro Morata- ohh thats not going to work

Although I just got back to the U.S. from living in the north west of Spain for the past two years , I sometimes still have problems with distinction although it is the way I do say most of these words and then trying to learn the regional language which has distinction but the close by other Romance language doesn’t. The interference of 3+ languages is a linguistic dream/nightmare. 😅

King Ferdinand? I thought.... My husband has a weird kind of lisp, as a Latino. He pronounces "breakfast" as "breakthast". And Mandarin Chinese is totally different than Cantonese. As a matter of fact, Cantonese people in California absolutely get totally irritated by the snobs (as they see them) the mainlaind CCP Han Mandarin speakers. It's much softer and "sshh-y" sounding versus Cantonese, which Americans call the "sing-song" Chinese. Especially since California and the entire West Coast is full of Cantonese who felt disliked and shunned by the snobs who spoke Mandarin and so, like people from the world over (these days) flee to "racist" America to get away from the real racists/BIGOTS back home, the Cantonese helped to build our railroads and sell Americans sweet and sour pork or BBQ pork fried rice....

Gracias

Yes they do.

I've never seen your channel before but I could tell you were British with the sound down. (It were summut to do wit body language, aye!!)

I've only watched one minute so forgive me if your point goes deeper than semantics but I'll say this: "lisp" is a lot shorter than: "they pronounce the c and the z like th"

Para los latinos la Z solo la usamos cuando escribimos. El sonido es el mismo tanto de la S como de la Z y Ce, Ci. Al menos en Ecuador hehehe Saludos

Just spent my year abroad in a small town in Cádiz province where ceceo was very prevalent. I was already familiar with seseo, but not ceceo, so it definitely took some getting used to!

I think someone saying “the Spanish lisp “ is offensive A little backstory of why I find it offensive I had a speech problem back in 2011 and I had a stutter back then I never have had a lisp My stutter is gone now after years and years of speech therapy and the work has really payed off I can now speak other languages (e,g Spanish Italian and French ) and I don’t get stuck while speaking these languages because I also took language lessons in school after I had finished my speech therapy sessions

In English, we don't say Cannery Islands but Canary Islands. The accent is on the second syllable, not the first, and it's a long diphthong (rhymes with airy and fairy). A cannery is a factory where food is put into cans. A canary is a little yellow bird that likes to sing. You also mispronounced phenomenon as if the final syllable was -num.

Here's a tip for your English pronunciation: the letter "zed" is not pronounced "set".

We are this planet for not even a twinkle in the cosmic eye and you make a video on lisp..wow!!! Nothing stranger than folk....

Thanks for using the correct name ‘zed’

6:31 Acutally, in Interior lands of South América it is pronounced: "cepillo", no "cepiYo", and THIS is the correct pronunciation.

I have a lisp 😢 im mexican bahahaha

It all sounds the same to me :(. I'm probably not good enough to hear the difference yet. My main source of Spanish is from Duo lingo (which I think is latin america based ?) I'm just back from a week in Cadiz / Seville and everyone understood my bit of Spanish ok. Trouble is... most people in the service industry are able to speak english !!

En Málaga dicen "zí, zí"

very very clir.

In my point of view, problem neither with pronouncing ‘ce, cim’ or ‘z’ but with pronouncing S. Your pronounce S like ordinary S in English but many people in Spain pronounce S in alveolar manner and the sound is a little hissing.

Spanish do have a lisp. Or are they mocking lisp speakers when they speak spanish? 🤔

I feel you! I'm Dutch and I always argue that Dutch doesn't have a 'SH' sound! It's a hard 'S', the tongue placement is totally different, and even varies slightly between accents! Most people don't care and are just like "well it sounds like that so whatever" but I will die on this hill 🤣

It’s a lisp and sounds ridiculous

También hay zonas del sur, particularmente en la parte rural de Sevilla, donde se cambia la "s" por "j". Es poco común pero es un fenómeno que se sigue dando en la actualidad.

Os vais ha enterar!! Unusual use of “Os” perhaps closer to voseo . Never heard anyone from Madrid use, “Os”

Lovely! SUBBED

That is why when a Portuguese hear a Spanish speaker they sound like they have a hot potato in their mouth. I am Portuguese and I always think that they are to tired to speak clearly. In Portuguese there are 2 sounds that we do not have. 1 is the Th, and the other is the H sound. Sound one find in the beginning of the words like Have in English.

Latino American Spanish >

So helpful ❤

Me encantó este vídeo. Yo prefiero la pronunciación del español peninsular. De hecho no me gusta el seseo para nada. Cuando lo oigo me suena mal e incorrecto.

But they do 😂