Same could be said with the 3s

Both the IIs and IIIs. The problem with the Spartan IVs is that a lot of them were either immature frat boys or toxic a-holes. But then you have the likes of Buck (who deserved Spartan augmentation) and Thorne (who can't come close to IIs/IIIs in combat prowess but he, according to no less than Halsey herself, comes closer than the others to what is needed of a Spartan in terms of loyalty and personality).

What’s better is that Jerome is a spartan 2 washout. His body rejected the augmentation. So your typical spartan 2 was even more lethal than him

@@raghuvarv personality I believe the spartan 4s need to be this way. They can’t be like the 2s or 3s. I believe that’s where many fans go wrong at. The 4s aren’t meant to be like their Predecessors but something in between a normal soldier and a spartan. They’re the kids who can get shit done and have fun (and get on your nerves lol) very much like a younger sibling trying to fill big shoes. And they DEFINITELY don’t die quickly or quite just like any other spartan(halo infinite showed that RIP warriors)

@@heerosagayuy2143 Good points. And, yeah, Infinite did a fine job showing us how badass Spartan IVs can be. May man Sorel killed multiple Elites and Brutes with a freaking screwdriver.

Yeah. True trust indeed. And also, if a Spartan II sounds alarmed and asks for a bombardment, you damn well do it without any further questions.

@@raghuvarv if a spartan II ASKED to bomb their location, you bomb their location. Period. 😂😂😂

@@kingsantos142 Shit has hit the fan and there is no time for questions.

He asked for danger close, which means as close to them as possible without hitting them, yeah there is still a chance of injury but it's nothing special. I've done that myself a couple of times in Iraq. You just got to make sure you know the blast radius of what you are asking to be fired and are very accurate with the grid you provide.

@@ryanwilson3314 Huh... Learn something new everyday.

Modern writers have no talent period.

This is a modern game wym?

Stoic? It’s a video game. Are you really talking about stoic when this isn’t a real person you’re watching? Are you really talking about personality when Cheif is having an identity crisis understanding where he came from compared to a video game that’s on a mission?

You guys really say anything don’t you

“No talent” are you some sort of Talent expert? Not sure who you think you are

Says who? You? You obviously never watched red vs Blue

Ahem reach

@@TheTruth-13 Really triggered and grabbing onto straws huh? Comparing a comedy parody to what suppose to be a dramatic live action version of Halo, which is a sci-fi war game? Low balling.

@@TheTruth-13 such a bad comparison imo. We're talking official stuff, like Reach made it make sense

@@TheTruth-13 first time we saw a face was when??? Caroline in the freeway and was injured and forced???

dude, HELL YEAH!

be like some ST Voyage style!

Sounds incredibly boring

I love how every alternative to the halo show is literally just rip off other sci fi military shows. Tell me how much you want a Band of brothers odst show next you unimaginative cretins.

I want a story about young Noble Team getting their first Mjolnir set. :3 And to find out if everyone else sees Kat and Carter as the power couple I suspect they are. X3

I’d rather binge the halo wars 2 cutscenes than watch the show

You'll get used to it. These shows are made by people whose attitude is that they're not going to give you what you want. They're going to give you what they think you should get.

@SonzaiX only the first episode. after that i just watched angry joe's reviews on them

Theyre WAY better than the show, its not even close

​@@mudkipmudkopilis1989Halo wars cutscenes are just something else.

They could've simply told the actor to rip off Pascal's Mandalorian and that would've been a better chief than what they gave us.

@@magasior4104 but no... they made Kwan like Korean Grogu and gave her an uninteresting storyline. Made MCheeks out of character, uninteresting plot and too many cliches like every other CW show.

I think he eventually realized she wasn't a Military AI like Cortana or Serina.

You'd think they'd know this after how the well the Mandalorian did.

@@cinimatics They are deliberately trying to make it into a "Better" Mandalorian Show. While doing the exact opposite of what Dave Filloni and Pedro Pascal did with "The Mandalorian."

Yes because red team failed their augmentation if i remember right, and they had to be frozen till they found a way to fix them then they spend like 20 years in cryo after they lost their slip drive.

Considering that, he would make for a good replacement, if they decide the original is too old to continue.

No, only Alice and Douglas in Red Team had bad reactions to the implants. Jerome was just fine.

@@angerskarin9222 no Jerome was advanced

@@angerskarin9222 no bud, Jerome is one of the original fully equipped and ready spartan 2s identify alongside several others of major leadership potential the other 3 being Kurt, Fred and John.

i go back to this cutscene every time i remember how great blur's animation were back then. god i love that scene

Fuck. YES. Jerome even volunteers to take the drive in and make sure of the destruction but Sgt Forge knows they'll need Spartans more than him takes his place. Fantastic scene.

As someone who hasn’t played halo wars, I would like to say: WHAT!? MOTHERFUCKER IS TAKING ON THESE SUCKERS WITHOUT SHIELDING?!

@@owenwoolley3394 Yeah the first Halo Wars took place before shielding was available for the Covenant or Humanity, they went into cryo after the events of Halo Wars and never got the energy shield upgrades

@@CorgiGiantbefore humans covenant had shielded for centuries before that point

@@CorgiGiant I like this explanation and logic too, but there's actually a big point of contention online on whether or not red team has shielding. Some say that in lore they were the first to be given prototype shielding 20 years before it became standard issue, or that they salvaged it in abandoned unsc posts during the events before cryo while they were still lost in space. Personally I think that no sheilding would be the best, because it's badass and it really sets up the master cheif vs atriox conflict (maybe not anymore after cheif got rekt), 3 spartan IIs with outdated armour and no sheilding can't beat atriox, but what about the Spartan II with the best suit yet?

@@CorgiGiant damn bro. Those MFs are built different.

This. The show has 10,000 lore discrepancies but a show in the timeline the show is “in” pre reach should be team of IIs in sage green mark 4 armor. I think all of them looking uniform except for their numbers and body shape would be so much cooler. That’s how I see Spartan IIs. Spartan 3-4s should have the different armors.

Best armor besides Mk. V imo.

It’s the best armor set

@@SpartanK9 If they would have made all the spartans in the show into 3s then they could have easily gotten away with showing their face and them being more "expressive." S-IIIs were partly known for that as you can see in Halo Reach. They also would have gotten way less backlash.

Mark 4 is hands down the best spartan armour change my mind

" When John retires along with Cortana, now out of service," correction, *if* Chief retires. but it's more likely that Chief will die saving the day or he'll stay as the main character.

@@prufan I mean, it'll happen some day, since his voice actor, Steve Downes is in his 70s. MC would never feel the same without the iconic voice actor. We've seen how generic-feeling Sam Fisher became in blacklist when Michael Ironside wasn't voicing him.

I agree. Jerome should be the one to put an end to atriox... not Chief.

you mean Master Cheeks?

It’s almost like video games and animations can be done better than real life

@@TheTruth-13 Yes that is the point.

@@TheTruth-13 it's not that the action or cgi was all that bad, the 5th episode proves that a live action can be done well in that regard. But the character writing is inexcusably bad.

I just call it a separate halo universe and have done with it. Mind you, their Miranda is hotter, I WOULD tap that.

Yeah Halo Wars 2 is peak halo design. Such good aesthetics and sounds. They really used the teen rating to its fullest extent and it never bothered me. On the other hand Halo infinite and Halo 5 really felt limited by the teen rating, Halo Wars 2 even without gore or anything had more maturity and serious language. Halo infinite shoulda been just like Halo Wars 2 but first person and on the slipspace engine.

The HW2 Banished artstyle is so good. It’s really brutal and scrappy, which makes sense because they’re basically a pirate faction run by clever monkeys. In Infinite, though, the vehicles are just red Covenant vehicles and the structures are just red UNSC structures. It doesn’t look good.

@@muyandos Huh? What do you mean? 343 copied the designs made from Halo Wars 2 and put it in Halo Infinite. I mean look at the Phantom. They are the exact same from both games but, at least from my perspective, the Halo Wars 2 Phantom shouldn’t of been put into Halo Infinite as it looks pretty ridiculous in first person.

@@dominator1914 They did not, the phatom maybe but the rest of vehicles are red covenant see side by side comparison between HW2 Wraith and Infinite Wraith, or the Ghost

@@semillakan6 The Halo Infinite Ghost actually doesn’t look like HW2 or the Covenant ghost. It’s really weird it’s more heavily armoured than the Covenant ghost but it’s doesn’t have the segmented armour style of the HW2 ghost. The Wraith though is even weirded. The Halo Infinite Wraith has the exact same design as the HW2 Wraith but the colouring is off. Like for some reason the Halo Infinite Wraith’s bottom half isn’t colored and is just silver unlike the HW2 Wraith which has a fully red and black paint job.

AND the legend doesn't have Shielding either

@@rokairu0-216 them first gen suits we're built to last im telling you lol

@@chrismusiclover9893 what makes it even more Mental is that Jerome has Mark IV (4) Gen 1 Armour. Mark IV is the very first "mass-produced" model of Spartan armour in Halo History and was created in 2525, Halo wars 2 takes place in 2559, the armour is 34 YEARS old by that point. That is the Ecuivalent to using a Sptifre and Sherman to fight the first models of A-10 warthog and Leopard 2 Edit: and that is pretty much what happens in Halo Wars 2

@@rokairu0-216 plus it has no shielding

@@rokairu0-216 just shows that most of the time older stuff has more quality

*that* was what made them Spartans. They simply did not understand giving up. They knew when to tactically retreat, when to regroup, but they always had a plan. Even if that plan meant certain death, they'd die trying.

@@trouty7947 well... Reach is proof III can be as good as II and I ... They gave it all for the mission... And in the end, despite all loss and mission succes... noble 6 still fight until death. I mean.. that was one hell of an end. Kinda wished we had more spartans story. I mean i would love to know more about palmer, jerome, and even get noble team before... Or get a follow up on Jun... Anyway i feel like they are underrated. Locke was interesting too as a spartan IV...

@@thomasbouvier3203 I agree with everything you said, except the part about Locke. He was absolutely NOT interesting, and definitely the least compelling out of every other Spartan ever shown

Homie legit pulled out a knife, went hand-to-hand and dug it as far as he could TWICE into Atriox’s gut. You could even see blood spout out when he takes it out. Not even Chief made Atriox bleed.

@@shooterDisease Cortana blew up a whole segment of a ring to try and kill Atriox and all it seemed to do was scorch his face a little... Douglass did more with a damn knife!

even palmer? :P

@@de_sherwin Palmer can get butt fucked by a mangy brute for all I care.

@@de_sherwin yes even her, she at least grows SOME character through out 4 and Spartan Ops.

I believe the character you're referring to is called Master Cheeks, for obvious reasons

*than

The simple task of taking off a helmet is supposed to be meaningful? What? Trying to find meaning in anything. Even something so simple as showing their face. It’s not meaningful at all and loses its meaning when you watch it more than once.

Hey dumb@ss that’s Douglas which you’d know if you actually consumed the media that you reee that you care so much about.

That wasnt jerome

@@TheTruth-13 Its meaningful because you remember he is a human under the helmet and it makes the urgency to save him more meaningful

@@Echo11720 it wasn't? Im pretty sure he had the strip on his helmet and armor

Damn, where can i read about this?

@@spartanzneverdie3211 Halo Fandom Wiki It was only Douglas-042 and Alice-130 who initially had a bad reaction to augmentation. Jerome-092 however did just fine after Augmentation.

Ow, from what I remember, if you fail augmentation, you're basically living with your nerves exposed.

@@maxhydekyle2425 not true for all of them, some it out right killed, others it paralyzed, some they just didnt take and they were too damaged to be used, one of the crew members on cairo station was a failed augment if i remember right

@@ZergS4uc3 That doesn't really change the amount of pain they endured. I remember the paralyzed ones.

People who wrote for the Halo games. *Remembers Halo 5* D:

@@Kai-vo5zq there are obvious exceptions.

You obviously haven’t watched the show and all you’ve done is watched clips on KZfaq. It’s clear and obvious. “Is a mess” you only see what you’re capable of seeing. Your own messy life

@@TheTruth-13 For someone who's name is "The Truth" you are in serious denial that the show is garbage from the start. Good god it was clear from the trailer that they already messed up. The armor is wrong, the plot is way off, its like the whole thing takes place in a alternate time line all together. Its a complete and utter mess, prove otherwise.

@@DrManticGaming there’s nothing to prove, it’s clear to me that you haven’t watched the show and all you’ve done is watch clips. The fact that you need me to “prove” the show to you is clear evidence that you haven’t watched the show. I have and I need no one to tell me anything about what I’ve already watched. Continue to say what you like you haven’t watched the show. Anything you have to say about the show holds no weight and has no value. Just by the way you speak it’s clear and obvious you haven’t watched the show.

Don’t forget REALLY trying to make them look evil and the Insurrectionist sympathetic

@@bigbadbob7070 exactly

@@bigbadbob7070 exactly despite only one side nuking civilian cities and it wasn't the UNSC doing it. Besides the UNSC already had it's totally evil parts like ONI, so just making the entire thing evil is beyond stupid as it robs it if the far more interesting moral dynamics of the various groups making up the UNSC.

@@NinjaTyler TBF, I can only recall two instances of nukes being used, and actually the first recorded instance was done by the UNSC on Far Isle but we really don’t know what happened there with the second being done by a particularly extremist Innie cell. Doesn’t make the crimes of the innies any better, but the conflict was rather gray and the CMA and UEG didn’t help things calm down.

👌🏻😂

No master cheif in the TV series is at game journalist level.

Tiki Tong is right

Nah, Normal is Master Chief in the cutscenes, Easy is Master Chief in a multiplayer game, and Journalist Mode is Master Chief in a bad fanfiction. Master Chief in the TV series is just a bunch of ABC blocks stacked in the shape of a person.

Shut up and take my money

@@Aredel Isabelles' "oh Shit" followed by laugh of excitement was epic

Probably the best 5 second scene ever

No doubt, and I know he already has an A.I but I’d like to see him get paired up with The Weapon if they do go this route

Steve Downs hasn't indicated that he's done with Chief, and he's still doing Halo infinite.

i swear. i cannot go through a comment section on a halo video without spotting people spouting the fact that steve downs "retired". he retired from radio my dudes, and 7 years ago too. and people somehow after having still voiced within those 7 years after the "retirement" announcement still think he is done with chief, it's very funny.

@@septemberstarlight9362 Steve isn’t as young and it was stated this is the last Halo Game with chief for the next 10 years there is going to be campaign add ons. But we don’t know if that’s gonna stay. And I didn’t say Steve retired I said he’s most likely done with Chief so don’t try to twist my words. I was just stating if they do a game with a Spartan II and it isn’t chief it better be Red team. Because Jerome in my honest opinion is the next best leader for the Spartans he’s not as great but is definitely capable to pull off what chief can do.

@@prufan never said he was done said “most likely done” it’s a speculation. And an idea of what they should do if he is.

Bruh blur guys are where it’s at

their last cinematics are titanfall and halo wars 2 awakening

You have no idea how expensive these things are. Blur is top notch and they're literally THE most expensive company to make animations

*MIA ;)

@@Hunter-rr5ue xd

You spelled in a cave wrong

6 lives!

@@dannywayne311 o.o

A show that supposedly has 10 million an episode too

I didn't know this was Halo Wars and when I saw the spartan's face that's when I realized this is animation and not film, fucking insane

wasn't the blur animation cost like a million a minute though, still doesn't excuse paramount's shitty effort considering that they are one of the giant film companies.

@@tatotaytoman5934 Closer to like $50k per minute of footage iirc.

@@bable6314 oh, so they could have commissioned a shorter length series with the show budget, which would have been 1000x better

You do realize that cheif is also a spartan ll right, also where did the name master cheeks come from?

@@Muzan_JacksonHEEHEE the show

@@Muzan_JacksonHEEHEE Episode 3 of the show. "Chief" goes butt naked hence Master Cheeks

@@Muzan_JacksonHEEHEE they’re children. Being on the internet you can forget how many kids are commenting.

@@TheTruth-13 have you not seen the show with his cheeks out? That's where Master Cheeks come from

Yeah and he could've done the same thing to master chief during Halo Infinite Intro. I guess letting go spartans is his kink, lol.

Atriox seems to be way too cocky, thats what gets him killed at the end probably. He has not met any Spartans in combat before HW2 scene, only heard stories. Probably though those are just some lesser weak fighters making up stories about Demon achievements. If he keeps playing with his food like that, he will realize Demons are not food, but instead killer-sharks, who he has only met out of their natural hunting environment. On open field Atriox would get clapped hard by a Spartan.

@@JP-gg8nv actually if I remember correctly Atriox was part of a group called Blood Stars, which the covenant made to hunt down Spartans, they were trained by the silent shadows, they got a lot of info about Spartans but the time they were sent to kill a team of Spartans the leader died and the covenant disbanded the Blood Stars, but Atriox has seen a Spartan in action before HW2

@@JP-gg8nv actually He'd Clapp em and you need arby cheif and red team along with plot to get rid of him I can absolultyebsee him being that tough He might as well be a natural spartan which is just hmng

I think him being able to take on 3 s2s was bs tbf, even if he has power armour it only increases his strength, he has no helmet so why didn't they headshot him and keep at range since he's clearly a huge brute with a gravity hammer, going for cqc is obviously unnecessary risk against a stronger, larger armoured enemy with a powerful melee weapon when you can just shoot their unarmoured head

Dream scenario. Show is a total waste of money and at the point just watching clips I hate that dude's face.

@@KZfaqCensors "oh a cool Spartan scene finall-ooh they ruined it with a close up helmet shot of him yelling like a lunatic....and then again 5 seconds later ...and again after that..."

@@NinjaTyler the show even ruined his quiet personality lmao the writers are even bigger joke than the people who watch it

Man I wish this would happen! An hour or so movie following maybe an ODST squad or the early battles of the human covenant war.

@@Teopae How about Johnson's team during First Contact?

Whats amazing is that in halo wars 2 the spirit of fire and the spartans weapons and armor are so outdated yet they still kick ass

@@shadowandtheabyss543 and the Spirit of Fire lasts longer than the Infinity in a naval battle. Because plot.

@@Aredel You are comparing two very different situations. Infinity got ambushed by 4 ships at the same time. It was a full force attack and Atriox was out for revenge. In Halo Wars however it was just a salvaging crew. A small fraction of what Banished is capable of. Hell, they were not even taking UNSC seriously at the time.

@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 with access to a Covenant capital ship, a ship that can, as we saw in Halo 2, scythe a UNSC cruiser clean in half with a single pulse from one of its lances. Atriox was already kicking it into gear when he attack the Spirit of Fire directly; there’s no reason he wouldn’t obliterate it as soon as they posed even a minor nuisance.

I felt that way too, the campaign felt so weird

The smooth-as-butter ‘move up’ signal from Jerome always makes me smile. You can really tell they’re are the best of the best and damn near telepathic with one another.

ya, maybe call it like, i don't know. Halo!

@@UncertaintyLaw he means the massive battles between the UNSC and the enemy. The only thing that’s close is the desert mission from Reach

@@CMTechnica the spire?(it's been a long time since I played)

@@Bladerunner5146 yep that one

dudeeee a battlefield styled halo game would be fucking crazy think of all the cool potential and shit it could do lol *hijacks a banshee from orbit and crashes it into a scarab* but nah frfr

Reminds me of a plot idea someone made for a dungeons and dragons movie, where one of the party members dies and then they get a new character who joins them but it's the same actor in new clothes and they don't acknowledge it.

that's game of thrones

@@jacobmorenzoni1873 game of halos

I think you'd like XCom.

if you're a fan of the original novels, then pretty much everything starting with halo: reach must have been absolute torture for you haha. the very essence of HALO has changed so much. but I will say, Halo wars 2 cutscenes are the closest we've gotten to the original trilogy of novels in all that time.

Hey can you tell me where did you read halo novels? Do we have to play games to have the full story? I would very much like to read the original novels

@@oonyyplaysrpg Have a search for 'Halo: The fall of Reach' by Eric Nylund. A great read that one. 'Halo: The flood' the story covers the events of the Halo ring is ok. 'Halo: First strike' and 'Halo: Ghosts of Onyx' are excellent reads... both written by Eric Nylund. 'Halo: Contact Harvest' by Joseph Staten (one of the creative leads on the original Halo games) is also an alright read.

@@oonyyplaysrpg And if you wanna know about the Forerunners then there's another 3 books on that one. Usually called the "forerunner trilogy"

@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 read the forerunner trilogy dude the wording I'm it is so grand

I mean, the simple solution would have been to make a Halo adaptation and not a Mass Effect adaptation. Or, skin the show like Mass Effect, call it Mass Effect, and watch the money rake in.

Halo Wars 2 was received well last time I heard? This would be sick tho!

Ehhhhh tied with Six. The Spartan, not the sixth place.

And what you said is meaningless

@@TheTruth-13 and so is what you say lol

I have to agree, Chief’s legacy in the show has been desecrated. Makes me look back to spartan IVs in Spartan Ops and think they were masterfully written🥲

@@TheTruth-13 Your username is really ironic

@@ghostlyblue5735 He's secretly the prophet of truth reincarnated to support a crap show.

Plus Jun, for good measure. Make it an even 8.

Did they really explain the difference between the two pistols in in-universe canon?

@@yampaamvs to be specific, there are 3 versions of the Magnum. The M6C is the Halo 2 pistol and was issued to vehicle crew. The M6G is the Halo 3 and Reach pistol and was issued to Armed Forces. The M6D is the Halo: CE pistol and issued to Navy Officers The M6H is what replaced all the pistols in Halo 4 and 5 There is a variant of the C that is used by ODST personnel as the M6C SOCOM

Pretty sure that they're not actually any weaker than any other S-II. I don't know where people get that information, but there's never been a source. They are washouts that got rehabilitated, but why does that mean they're weaker?

HOOK IT UP TO MY VEINS!!!!

It's like iron man's inside helmet cam.

Exactly, it's like how they did The Mandalorian, same universe and timeline, just a new pocket of it with mostly new characters and shocker! It worked really well. The Halo games and books have proved you don't need Master Chief to be Halo, just needs compelling characters and fights, and have a gritty dark atmosphere with some humor and hope dashed in to combat the oppressive atmosphere

Yeah, literally chose Chief known for being one of the most stoic Spartans simply because of name brand recognition. So stupid.

It’s kinda genius how they froze Red Team in time so they could come out fresh and young years later. Makes me wonder if that was always the plan.

@@shooterDisease considering they we're augment washouts who healed yeah I think they intended for that to be the idea lol

He may actually be a hyper-lethal vector, to be fair. He was never around when Chief and Six got that combat rating, because he was in cryosleep.

It’s pretty obvious they don’t give a shit about Halo. The creators even said they didn’t read any of the books or play any of the games when making the show, which they were making based on said books and games. fucking hilarious

He is a pretty cool guy

In the 5 scenes he’s in

Jerome has less experience yes but Ithink the way jerome sees it because elites are part of the banished there wasn't much difference to fighting them upfront since hes used to seeing them in the covenant plus jerome seems quick enough to change his fighting style when he first fights the brutes

Halo Wars 1 take place at the beginning of the war, and Red Team graduated late from the Spartan program, so by the time of HW1 they had less experience then the Chief would have, but not by much. After HW1, Red Team goes in cryo for 30ish years until HW2, so Jerome would have less experience than the Master Chief, but considering that they’re both Spartans it doesn’t make much of a difference.

@@filwilliamson9149 true only thing is the banished are tougher to deal with

Master Chief has more simply because Jerome has been in cryo for years while Chief was fighting the covenant.

He is thats his name you obviously haven’t watched the show. Or are you trying to say he’s not a created video game character. No he isn’t which is clear and obvious he’s not a video game

@@TheTruth-13 well he isn't canon masterchief so i think he identifies as master cheeks

I think they are considering, because Jerome is mostly liked by the fans. But not sure how Chief will go out like retiring etc...

The tv series not your life

@@TheTruth-13 ... OPINIONS DUMBASS

@@TheTruth-13 haha like those guys really care for you! No need to defend them, speak for yourself!

yeah the joke about the nuts was so much master chief

@@davidarturovazquezchan632 oh no, it's not exactly like the versions we've already seen oh great heavens

@@davidarturovazquezchan632 he literally speaks as much as this spartan he handles action like this spartan and is caring like this spartan. But let's get obtuse

@@somebodyelse522 bruh wdym TV show chief is a joke compared to pretty much every other depiction of a Spartan II that i've ever seen

How many times does Master cheeks go rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Agree, that was sick

Someone also pointed out that snippet was representing UNSC forces in terms of lethality. A squad of marines laying down cover fire. A warthog unloading their chain gun. A tank getting dropped and ready to deliver high-explosive shells. And the calm, cool and collected arrival of a Spartan-II.