This was a fun video as usual, and it sure did stir up a lot of controversy (or I should say individuals opinions ) after reading the viewers comments and this is why I love this hobby.

Cerwin Vega, ESS and a few others were on our list, but for some reason their logos didn't make it into the tier list. Sorry! "in my opinion, lol" I'd go Magnapan B-Teir, Cerwin Vega B- Tier and ESS A-Tier

A lot of very good speakers are made here in Canada. Brands such as PSB, Paradigm, Energy and perhaps Axiom would certainly be high on your list if they had come through Des Moines. I've had the original Alphas for over 20 years - an excellent bookshelf speaker.

I'm watching the Packers/49ers play and came across your video 👍. As a 70 year old guy it took me back to college days. My buds all bought JBL's , while I went to ElectroVoice, Marantz amp, Dual turntable, Pioneer receiver. All purchased from Keif's in Lawrence KS 😢. Purchased Infinity's after grad school and Bose 901's with first house. Been many, many years since I've shared the experience of listening to one anothers layout/music. Great memories and information.

Thanks for the effort Kevin, no one will come up with identical tier lists but thanks for getting us reflecting back on these. I hung out in the audio showrooms from waaay back late sixties and seventies when the speaker craze was just ramping up. It’s hard to compare as everyone had such a large number of electronics being introduced as well. The mix and match of the source equipment and subtle room acoustic influence alone make comparing speakers alone is (as an isolated part of the system configuration) made so much difference for us old audiophiles! Fortunately I still have my CS Thiels, which have been refurbished a couple of times. Jim Thiel’s contribution made the biggest impact for me over the years because I think he, like many early innovators of those days were in a relentless pursuit of their goals. These comparisons, though virtually impossible to do, make this channel most interesting. I rewatch some of your presentations whenever any of my old purchases resurface. Best Regards

Right now I'm a Klipsch junkie on tubes, but the Boston A series was my gateway drug. I still have sets of early A200s and A150s, and later issue sets of A60s and A40s. Thank for the video!

As a lifelong ADS owner, I love the list.

Kevin, I love your tier brand lists!

Great video, love my AR 3a and 5s Bought the 5s new while I was in Vietnam in 1970 and had them shipped home. recently rebuilt the surround, crossovers and installed new pots. Found a pair of original 3a's at an estate sale recently, they were unfinished wood. Completely re built them just like the 5s and left the wood unfinished.

Good stuff! I've settled in on my childhood memories from the 70's with six pairs of EPI's throughout the house. My dad owned a pair of 100's when I was a kid, and they were my first introduction to sound. They always sounded "proper" to my ears. As I got older I owned many other brands. Klipsch, Polk, Infinity, Boston, JBL, and a few others. But it's the EPI sound that draws me in to this day. And I'm talking about the stuff during the gold ring tweeter era, and even the earlier Masonite stuff, not the cheap stuff during the Harman years.

A pair of Allisons in good working condition are outstanding. But finding them in good working condition is becoming difficult. The AR 3a was Roy Allison's work, improving upon the original AR 3.

Thanks for making these informative and entertaining videos. I enjoyed this video a lot. As a vintage audio enthusiast and restorer, I've had an opportunity to listen to many of the speaker brands you ranked and I agree with your choices. I'm a big fan of Henry Kloss and just about anything he designed. That being said I personally would have probably moved KLH into the "A" category. I've fully restored many KLH models but my absolute favorites to listen to are the Model 5, 6 and 23. I also own AR-4x and OLA's in my "keeper" collection. I hope to come visit your shop one day. Thanks!

As a Home Grown Canadian living in the USA for the last 26 years, I am sad that the US has not been more exposed to psb speakers. Upon getting married in 1981 my stereo system purchase was a pair of psb Passif II speakers with Luxman amp, tuner and turntable. These speakers are fantastic. Kevin re-foamed the speakers (about 40 years old at time) and cleaned up the amp and turntable (later to install Grado Red 3 cartridge). Three hour drive one way. I have never had anyone not be amazed by the sound (and not just being polite). This system sits in sunroom. Wanted a system for family room and was not about to deviate on speakers. Enter psb X2T's paired with nad C388 BluOS-2i, Marantz CD6007. For the money they are a win-win. I would rate them tier 1 !! Thank you Kevin. Skylabs Audio is number ONE! and Podcasts are fantastic.

In 1975 I was 18 and in the Navy and had very little money. I bought a Sony TA-1130 amp, an AR manual turntable from a friend who got it from a family friend that owned a radio station, and a pair of BIC Venturi Speakers with the 10 inch woofers. They had a horn mid range and were great for hard rock and especially Black Sabbath. I only got to listen to them when I was home on leave. D'oh! I have owned several JBLs and Klipsch speakers and still do. I'm happy with your list.

I recently acquired a set of vintage German made Canton’s on my local marketplace and I was pleasantly surprised on how good they sound and I am going to set aside my Cornwall’s for now.

My personal picks / changes would be to have Dahlquist, B&W and Martin Logan in the A section. Infinity was once a very high end brand, but Harmon trashed them - Arnie era Infinity would be a solid A, later on is closer to C. I have owned 2 pair of older era Infinity speakers and they were top notch at one time. The only other might be to nudge Realistic up to C. While they catered to the mass market on a budget, the better ones were respectable.

After all these years I am still enjoying the great sound of my OHM Walsh 3 speakers on one of my systems, and the great (but different) sound of my ESS Eclipse M102 on another system. Both are driven by Marantz units from the early 80's.

Hey Kevin. Fun video as always. The only change I would make to your list is bump up Infinity to the A spot. I have several Infinity speakers ( the older models ) and they all sound amazing. My current main setup is Pioneer SX-950 with Infinity Qb's with an AR-XB turntable and Pioneer 707 R to R. My fav in my small room is my Pioneer SX-626 with AR-4xa's. Very smooth sound. Love the video's. Looking forward to the next.

Totally respect your choices. We have a pair of Dynaco A25’s in a vintage gear living room setup that are darn good except the tweeters were upgraded along with the crossover capacitors.

I've had a pair of BA A40 MkII w/a Polk PSW10 as my daily drivers on my SX-737 for 10 years. I love them. The sound is clean, crisp, unadulterated. Great stage and imaging. Perfect for a low-mid power 70s solid state rig in a small to medium sized listening space.

Another great video, had to treat myself to a shirt as well!! Tons of good brands in this list which many have crossed my path, the ADS & Cantons never left. Another brand I enjoy ( not the best in the world but a fun speaker ) Design Acoustics point source series with the down firing woofers, Real neat speakers. PS' Pauls Infinitys are so cool, id love to hear them as well.

Have owned several models of Cantons over the last 30 years. I believe they were brought to the US via Mr Madsen ( thank you Tom's brother) into the Audio King stores in Minneapolis / St Paul. I currently own Karat 30, (which is the 5th time I have acquired this model) Karat 20, Ergo 90DC and others. I would appreciate any suggestions of other model suggestions. They continue to be under the radar......Glad you included them in your list Kevin!

The Advents we bought from you really light up the garage. The Sony receiver, also from you, allows us to crank these things at 80% with very little “noise”. Garage is finished except, of course, for the concrete floors.

Thank you for giving respect the the AR brand. I currently have AR-3a speakers and still love them and their sound. One great thing about the AR line in the 1970s is that their speakers sounded very much alike. I have owned AR-4x, AR-6 and AR-7 speakers and the main difference is the low end from the AR-3a is better and the dome tweeter and midrange help the high frequencies and midrange cover the room better. Otherwise they sound very much alike. I also have a pair of JBL L-100 speakers I bought at a yard sale for $15.00 each. The cabinets are a little rough and of course the foam grills are not present. One of then has a midrange driver out. I use them in my shop and also for the sound of my computer and they sound great.

I very much appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us. Your list was good and encompassed a lot of brands. I have a vintage pair of Koss CM 1030 speakers that sound fabulous. If you get a chance to pick up a pair that have been rewired buy them. Huge weighty speaks that sound A level.

Thanks for all advice sky labs

As an owner of vintage stereo equipment myself - nothing outrageous - but solid equipment that I grew up with - I appreciate the time you put into these videos and the information - seems fair and honest and appreciated.

I found a small pair of Dynaco speakers in the alley once, the veneer was scratched up and the grilles were beat up. I sanded and oiled the veneer and got lucky scoring some black fabric for the grilles. The woofers pushed right out to the edge of the cabinet and the surround was wide, black rubber. Not foam - so they lasted. I think they were A-10s. I ended up selling them but they were a cool retro throwback. The black cloth grilles updated them nicely too. Screw terminals FTW, if that's what you like.

I hope you get an opportunity to get your ears on some MartinLogan Motion series. I really like pairing this series with vintage receivers. That folded Motion tweeter is just so precise.

It was very disappointing to not see CerwinVega! On this list. I don’t understand why they are such a controversial speaker, they have made allot of great sounding speakers. Definitely better than others on this list 🔈👍🏻 I’m actually a bit mad lol!

I think you pretty much nailed it. Especially ADS JBL and AR' in the A Tier

I was very surprised to not see Genesis on your list. I’ve got a pair of Genesis Model 10s that are absolutely amazing that I love.

Great list. I have air of Polk SDA 2A that sound fantastic, they are definitely in my B list. Got ADs L810s too.

Keep it up! Loved the content. Thanks!

I largely agree with your list. I would bump up B&W and Polk by one notch each, and would have to knock Bose down another peg for all their Acoustimass sins. Other than that I don’t think I’d change anything.

Those Polk Audio Monitor 7s and 10s with the upgraded tweeter sound better than my high falutin' ELAC and PSB bookshelves.

Great video , I'm a JBL kinda guy , tomorrow I'm getting some Linaeum LFX-BA speakers with the ribbon tweeters I'm excited to see how they sound , he also has a pair of JBL 4301's , we are doing some trading so pretty excited to see how that goes . I have amassed quite a collection out here on the Big Island . Keep up the good work , I ordered a T shirt in XXL , pity no XL's are left :) . I'll be flying the Skylab flag in Hawaii .

I love the speaker talk! I've had the baby Advent II's, and they were awesome! I had the Boston Acoustic A60's and I really enjoyed them too. I currently have the Yamaha NS-645 and they are the best speakers I've owned to date. So many speakers, so little time! How about some PSB love?

At first I thought those speakers on the floor behind you, frame right, were DCM Time Frames (or Time Windows). DCM got some great reviews back in the day. I'd like to hear your take on some other relatively hot manufacturers right now: Focal, Triangle, Elac, Monitor Audio, Magnepan (which is just out with some new, smaller models)... I have a pair of '90s vintage Spica TC-50s (the wedge-shaped ones) that are impressive, but that company (like Mirage) is no longer around, so they're not all that easy to find anymore except on ebay...

ADS! Yes, I love them and nobody talks about them. Thanks

OHM’s should be in the #1 spot. Their higher end series are amazing. I own original Ohm F’s and those will smoke all on the list. I also own OHM Walsh 2’s and they sit right there with my JBL L-100’s. I can crank the hell out of them. They sound amazing!

Hey Kev, hope you had a great Labor Day weekend. Overall, I agree with your list, except I would definitely move Bose up.^ Many of those brands I never heard of, and there's other brands not mentioned. Such as Clarke Systems, which made some very respectable speakers back in the 80s on the East Coast. I had a pair and used those as my B speakers, used with my AR speakers as my primaries (A), when I had my Onkyo system .But I no longer have any of those and use Polk Towers with my Pioneer 780 receiver now, which isn't my ideal system but that's all I have right now. I also used to own some Advents and still have a pair of old KLH's in storage.

I didn't even need to watch this - B&W, Infinity and JBL are in my top tier. No question for me. Ive have infinities and now have B&W Series 3 and JBL 4425s. Life is good. Thanks for the video, enjoyed seeing all the speakers names from my past.

Fun video, sure to stir up discussion. I mostly agree with the A category. The Brit speakers are under represented in this format because they co$t a bunch so you wouldn’t see many in your shop. I have listened to the KEF LS 50’s and they are astonishing!

Haven't heard most of the speakers listed, but regarding the ones I've heard, I get where you're going. I have heard B&Ws in a nice setup and was blown away, so for me they'd go in A tier. And I would add Paradigm, a brand I feel that punches above its weight, to the B tier.

Interesting video. Where I live we see more UK speakers as such I’d personally bump up KEF and Rogers at A.

Are there vintage brands that are easier to restore/work on than others? I see some ratty old speakers on Marketplace and in garage sales and I'm always curious which ones are worth putting the work into. I've built a couple CSS Audio speaker kits so I have a base knowledge and decent woodworking skills to work off of.

Interesting list, good video, thanks.

For Infinity normal priced anyway did you find the top end somewhat bright?

We have Bozak show up in my area occasionally. Right now there is a set of DMS 4500 and a set of B-302A for sale locally. They are out there

Have you ever heard any of the Marantz HD series from the 70's? They are really nice speakers. Currently have a pair of the 920's. The HD880 are very desirable speakers. Also, the Ohm's could be in the B list. They make great sounding high quality speakers. Currently have a set of C's. And, they still sell replacements for ANY part of a speaker they have sold. Very pricey, but if you want to keep things factory spec'd, you can do that with Ohm.

Not sure if Magnepan is something you had a lot of experience with but they would be on my top tier for sure

I listened to a pair of Sansui SP-1200 and they sounded awesome. I don't hear that model number when you speak of the Sansui's. Thoughts? Still Crappy in your opinion? Thanks

Great list! I might move Warfedale to the top... and Rogers sound lab for sure!

Speakers are so subjective. No two people hear the same.

Boston Acoustics A100s for life! I've had mine since 2008, and I bought those to replace a set I bought in the early 80s that I lost.

Hey, very interesting and honest opinion., congrats Here in Europe, we will add for sure in the top rows Celestion Ditton, Tannoy, IMF, Monitor Audio, Goodmans… but i understand that you have less chances to have a pair coming in. We' d really like also your opinion on american rarities that we hardly see in Europe: Cerwin Vega (domestic ones; i really like my R10) but also Martin USA, Epicure… And a tier list for integrated amplifiers ? Have a great day, greetings from Belgium.

When I was in highschool in the 70's I had some Bose 201's hooked up to a Pioneer tuner and it was awesome

While there are a few exceptions, the list generally reflects a rule of thumb that was popular when I bought my first decent stereo system, back in the early 1970s. If you wanted a good loudspeaker, you auditioned a brand that specialized in loudspeakers and avoided brands that were primarily electronics manufacturers.

I used to have a Realiatic STA-2280 with a pair of Realistic Mach IIs. Quite a powerful combo and a great stereo for the prices. I wish I still had that system. I don’t even know what I did with any of that. Crazy. Gettin old friends

Great list, I currently own ADS, JBL and Klipcsh.

Have to add Epicure! Loved mine!!! High quality and great sound! I also had a set of Onkyo speakers with titanium tweeters and enjoyed them for years too!

A worthy overview but I could make an argument to move B&W/Wharfdale to level A. (I own B&W CM10, CM 5 CM Center and a pair of JBL L82 Classics so I get the contrast). The UK brands do tend to be analytical (assume thats what you mean by “boring”) so it really depends on your music preferences. The Advents in Combo with Bose 301 was a popular pairing back in the day. Buddy of mine, scrounged up a system a few years back anchored by a Pioneer SX 737. I smiled when I saw he had arrived at the same combo. Perfect system for 70’s rock.

I'm curious as to your opinion of Ohm speakers given that they've not been mentioned as best I know. Still in business and building product in NY, still backing their legacy speakers and I understand the owner will actually answer the phone himself. I was given a pair of the Ohm L's and was surprised at how wonderful they sound in my vintage system. Possibly they don't come in often, though I think they sold many conventional speakers? Thanks in advance!

The Ohm F - the first of the Walsh speakers - were fabulous. Dynaco made four lines: the small A-10; the original A-25; the larger A-35 and the floor-mount A-50's. Jim Thiele told me he pronounced his name "Teel" when I went through their facility in Lexington, KY.

Enjoyable as always, installment. During my time at Franklin Music I seemed to sell about four or five models, based upon what kind of music, and money, the customer came in with. There were a certain group that were only after BASS, and I called them "Thumpers". BIC for them, every time. kinda sort of mids, and muffled highs, but they loved them. We did not sell them, but kind of reminded me of the "Big Box" Cerwin-Vegas. If they came in and really enjoyed music but could not spring for my favorites -- JBL Centurys, I would focus on Pioneer HPM-100s -- I still would like to find a pair to this day. Would also like a pair of the current L100 JBLs. Speaking of JBLs, I did not sell them, but my Manager did have someone come in that had plenty of money, and the space and amplifier power to make the pair of L200s we kept in the back storeroom. Yes, BIC earned that "D" for sound quality, but you just about could not kill them. Will wait for the next installment...

How about Cerwin Vega ! ??

LOVE my pair of Celestion Ditton 551. A poor man's Yamaha NS-1000!

is the empire turntable over your left should going to be up for sale?

Great Video- I would have put the B&O in at least B. you confirm my gut feeling classification regarding Marantz, MC, Sansui, .. a bit surprised about Braun - but you are probably right 😁. there are some other brands , but may not be popular in the US: Philips, Pierre etienne leon, Cabasse, T+A, Heco, SABA, ITT, .... - any thoughts in the team ?

I would add a few of the made in Canada brands to this list for their dominance in the 1990s when most other brands were producing a ton of junk. These days, old Paradigm are some of the best deals in audio equipment. Especially, Paradigm Atoms are small, inexpensive, and easy to find these days. Those speakers were probably better than the Boston HD5s of the time, due to featuring dome tweeters and cast frame woofers. They do need new foam surrounds these days, but I run repaired atoms and titans all the time on my sound systems. I call their sound a perfect blend of detailed and fun. I would describe their sound as flat enough that you hear the details of the music, but not flat enough to be analytical or boring sounding. They sound incredible with all content, and really sound better the louder you turn them up!

I hope someday (if you haven't already) get to hear some Sony APM 66ES speakers. They are incredible!

I own a set of JM Labs Cobalt 816. They are a very bright speaker but matched with my Marantz 2252b sound awesome.

I have four sets of Bose 601 series 2. Really nice sounding speakers. I have two sets hooked to a pioneer SX-950 and the other sets hooked to a Scott 380R . But you got people out there that doesn’t like Bose. It’s just whatever you prefer .

back in the day i had a pair of Tamon speakers 15" subs , they where awsome, my buddy 3 houses down would show up to jam with me but he didnt have to they sounded great there

Curious about opinions on the Martin Logan electrostatic speakers. Where would you rank those?

I agree with your assessment assessment of Sansui!

Have you heard Norman Laboratories vintage speakers. I have run across a few. I would like some opinions on these speakers

Celestion Ditton line of speakersk Made in England... I bought the 33's while in high school 1975, great performers. Ive since picked up the 66's the big brother to the 33's and the 66's easily outclass the 33's. I guess I was surprised to not even see them mentioned. We had a high end store in Lincoln Nebraska, but it closed shop however there is still a Sound Environment store in Omaha I think they had a decent Nebraska following.

i wouldn't put the B&Ws in the A tier either. I had a pair of 805 Nautilus speakers for a bit, and I was happy to let them go. They were great, but a bit boring. It's astonishing how our taste in speakers match up. I have a couple of JBLs (4429, 4311) and a gorgeous AR18s which are among my favourite speakers. I managed to get my hands on a pair of Quad S2s, and they have been in rotation ever since. I'd encourage you to try and get your hands on a pair (given that we seem to like similar stuff), but do pair it with a musical fast sub. That ribbon tweeter is perfection. I've never heard ADS speakers and you have piqued my interest. Thanks for a video, it was a fun watch.

I swapped out my Brain L 500’s for Eclipse RF 35’s for about 10 years then recently put the Braun’s back on and I seem to prefer them now.

I would also include Cerwin Vega, Magnepan and Monitor Audio.

It's so interesting to see what someone else with a lot of listening experience thinks about speaker manufacturers. It's also interesting to see how history often seems to skew certain brands. I've owned Altec VOIT, AR 3a, KLH 5, EPI, Advent, and I've heard most of the others listed and I'd put most of the ones I mentioned in the C range (at best), even so, they are mostly that high for their early entry into either HIFI in general or because they were the first in a niche, and not because they sounded especially good. The Altec I'd put in the D range, but they certainly impressed my friends. I kinda liked the Bose 901s but not another single speaker that they ever made, but I suppose that could change. I'm sorta surprised that you left off Magneplanar/Magnepan. They were kind of a big thing back in the 70s and 80s. I suppose they still are. I'd personally put them in the A category. Strangely I never caught either the JBL or Klipsch bug. I'd say the JBL were Bs and Klipsch were C. I owned some metal grilled teensy ADS/Braun speakers (about the size of the Optimus with the ribbon tweeter) that were astonishing back then. It would have been around 1980-1983 I think? I've always wanted to find another pair, but I'm afraid they wouldn't sound as amazing. OTOH, I think the Polk SDA and Monitor 7, 10 and 12 are all best in class for their price range, especially in that time frame. They would top my list and be all by themselves in an A+ category although the speakers they developed after 1990 or so would be placed in the C category by me. They are a very divisive speaker for some reason. I think it might be because many see the umbilical as a gimmick. It's weird. I know you won't read this but were any of you associated with Audiolab (s?) in Des Moines? That was the Mecca for all we teens from North Central Iowa. I bought some stuff from them back in the day. They were my first exposure to non-mail order speakers (other than Team, which didn't really count). It was definitely a plus to be able to hear before buying! PS: Do you know anyone that ever owned the Rectilinear Wall of sound speakers? This guy! There's a sucker born every minute.

I think I have said this before. Sansui speaker cabs mostly have terrible cabs but my SP x9000 have crappy cabs but placement and the right room makes a huge difference.

It amazes me the number of people that claim to hate Klipsch, that never heard the Forte' series. I've heard the Original and Forte' II, many can vouch for 3 and now 4. If you're on the fence about getting some Klipsch, at least give the Forte' a chance.

I just paired a set of AR4x speakers with my newest onkyo receiver of 120 watts it’s an T65 digital display receiver but man , those AR’s are so good to my ears an I stole both really the AR’s I got for 100 bucks an they beautiful, cabinets flawless , speaker grills great shape but missing one AR acoustic badge but I am ordering one an it’s 20 bucks lol , an the onkyo I got for 30 bucks , guy just didn’t know how to operate it with out remote so I stole it because it’s in great shape , skylabs man I’m glad I found this channel, to help me make best decisions on vintage and non vintage, you rock dude !!! ❤this channel an one day ima support ya more when I get my collection built like I want , picking up a pioneer GR j300 Thursday for 50 bucks no turn table nor speakers but integrated amp 7 disc dual cassette an receiver , an EQ an some bookshelf infinity’s for 25 need tweeters tho , I am loving this

I have a pair of Fourier one series speakers that i am restoring, they are one of the best sounding speakers i have owned and was wondering if you have ever had the pleasure of listening to a pair of them. I'm looking for a pair of tweeters for them right now.

I've found Wharfedale and Bozak are very similar in sound. Of all of the speakers I've been through, I have settled on two sets of Bozaks (305s & 401s), a set of Wharfedales (W70s), 2 sets of JBLs (Lancer 77s and C26s), and some Altec Lansing Valencias. Sold my HPMs off a while ago...great speakers, but a little too much on the bright side for me :)

Hi Kevin, have you heard HeathKit AS 153 speakers? I have a pair of custom built boxes with these inside.

Great sorting, Vandersteen, yes but not in my budget/hearing range. However maybe I should walk around the corner and visit the shop. The are still located here in Hanford CA.

Nice👍 What about paradigm loudspeakers?

Loved seeing ADS up top. Only had the American ADS, never heard the German Brauns.

Do you ship merch to Canada ?! Thank you

Over 50 years I’ve built 7 speaker kits. Most have been exceptional. The quality of the crossovers and drivers is beyond much of these commercial units That being said I enjoy ESS / Cannon west coast rock speakers. If you want a mighty little transparent 3 way. Amazon sells the Swan 3.1 DIY with cabinets for $300. Upgrading the crossovers. You’d be impressed. Thanks for a great list

Thiel and Dahlquist deserve A tier, and would be that way on my list. I have the Dahlquist DQM-9c's and Thiel CS 3.5's Both are awesome in different ways. Kevin - you should get a pair of DQM-9's or DQM-9c's in your shop. Based on what you say you like, I think you will LOVE those particular Dahlquist speakers!

Hey Kevin, thanks for the list, and as you noted, Speakers are totally subjective and you'll never get folks to agree! I spent decades in the industry and sold the vast majority of the brands listed as well as a TON of the ones not listed, I just want to mention that "in my opinion" take that for what it is, nuttin', I concur with your opinion on the ADS speakers. I sold them from the days that Godehard Guenther transitioned from the German Braun manufactured drivers to the in house drivers (L500 - L910) class products, until the 80/90 class products. I personally use the L1530's driven by a Crown Studio Reference I, I've used them as my reference for over 40 years, I also have a spare set for spare parts. I have listened to stuff more expensive by orders of magnitude, and to this day have not found anything I like better. With the Crown amp, I can play them at Klipshorn (which I sold and used to own) volume levels and dynamic levels, but they actually sound good with unmatched frequency bandwidth. It's a shame they did not survive and are getting to the point of being unserviceable. I also own every Telarc album in both vinyl and CD/SACD that were mastered on the 1530's, a match made in heaven.

I grew up with AR 4x through Sherwood and pacific Stereo had them all and we tried the whole line in a room and the ones I liked best were 3a 5, 6 amd 4x

I've had Wharfdale.. Mordant Short.. Monitor Audio's... But I never hear you guys over the Atlantic talking about anything from over here in the UK & Europe.. Any idea's would be good to chat about with anyone who is just getting into HiFi for the first time..

Well as a big AR fan and owner of way too many AR's i'm glad to see them at the top!

thank you for good entertainment for an audio head