Speaking Plainly Pt 3: Head Coverings Revisited

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Carlton McLeod

Carlton McLeod

5 жыл бұрын

Original Sermon: calvaryreformationchurch.org/...
My book: www.ccmcleod.com/head-covering
Headcovering website mentioned: www.headcoveringmovement.com/
Was 1 Corinthians only meant for Corinth?
1 Corinthians 1:2 (KJV) Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1 Corinthians 4:17 (KJV) For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
1 Corinthians 11:16 (KJV) But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
1 Corinthians 14:33 (KJV) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
1 Corinthians 14:37 (KJV) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Slight misspeak​ at 12:46. Should have said "...why people don't believe head covering is for today."
Another slight misspeak at 16:12: "...has nothing to do with culture" is what I meant! :)

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@marriage4life893
@marriage4life893 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this message. I heard your full teaching on KZfaq through SermonIndex. Going from relaxers to natural hair was a journey. The same goes for covering the head. Who would've thought that a piece of cloth on the head could stir up and expose so many emotions, attitudes, and ungodly ideologies within me. But I'm grateful we serve a God who is patient, merciful, and doesn't change. I will say, right off the bat, wearing a wedding ring never stopped men from inappropriately approaching me. However, covering my head instantly shifted all of that. Besides, it's nearly impossible to cover your head and not have the rest of your dress change as well. After everything Christ has done and continues to do, covering my head isn't asking much or costing me anything but my pride and vanity. Thanks again for having the intestinal fortitude to deliver this message with humor, honesty, and courage. Be blessed
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful testimony. It is an amazing gift God has given to His daughters! Thank you for your honestly and encouragement!
@marriage4life893
@marriage4life893 Жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor I used to leave this particular issue up to personal conviction, but the letter addressing the matter isn't written to an individual, but to churches. These are church ordinances, not personal convictions. Individual pace? Sure. Take your time sorting things out while the goal remains the same. A year after applying this ordinance, and I'm still learning more. God is good. Blessings
@marriage4life893
@marriage4life893 8 ай бұрын
​@@CRCCPastorI know you're a busy man. I'm just adding revelations as they come. No need to respond. Reading through scripture this year, and I realized that if the practice of covering and uncovering were optional, Paul would've written more along the style of Romans 14. 1st Corinthians 11 is not a disputable matter like the other concepts in Romans 14. With 1st Corinthians 11-14, these are commands from the Lord, and we're told not to have anything to do with anyone who wishes to be contrary. Meanwhile, Romans 14 is over disputable matters that are not from the Lord, and we shouldn't break fellowship over them. This sort of you-do-you doctrine that's being taught about 1st Corinthians 11 is in opposition to the Lord. If we reject those he has sent, we are rejecting him, and we're rejecting the one who sent him. The church is failing to recognize apostolic authority, and we're paying for it dearly. As we fight culture wars, I fear we've neglected to fight for our own culture that was handed down to us for 2 millenia. This is not a women's issue. This is a church issue. This is church culture being restored to the glory of God. This practice is cultural; its church cultural. Thank God he has never budged on his best. Thanks and blessings
@oneflowerlover
@oneflowerlover 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your message. I watched the original sermon, and it's crystal clear to me now. My mother passed when I was 21 and my grandmother when I was 16, so there was no one I could ask. The Lord placed this in my heart, and I began to think back on what my grandmother did. I question why I still wear scarves at home now and where did this practice come from. What on earth have we been doing here in America? At the end of the day, it's all about pleasing God!
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 2 жыл бұрын
Amen. Very sorry to hear about your losses. What are reunion in heaven it will be
@oneflowerlover
@oneflowerlover 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor Amen.
@SimpleQuietLife
@SimpleQuietLife Жыл бұрын
Wonderful word! Thank you very much :)
@larenphillips9673
@larenphillips9673 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesus
@pitbullpreppersrvliving8923
@pitbullpreppersrvliving8923 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and making it clear
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@lisahooper7578
@lisahooper7578 Жыл бұрын
Pastor, I loved your sermon on this. Probably my favorite one on the topic. I do cover for worship, but I must say it was much easier on missions trips to India where all the women cover and have never stopped covering in worship. I just ordered your book on the topic. Question: What are your thoughts about covering full time? Also, the type of cover that is most appropriate? Thank you and bless you for your ministry! ;-)
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lisa! Yes, most women find it easier to cover when others are as well. That's just human nature! To that I'd say, "Be Strong in the LORD, and in the power of His might!" :) God's got you! As far as full time, it really is a personal decision. Paul's injunction for women to cover had to do the prayer and prophecy: times of speaking to or speaking for God (declaring His Word). Some ladies pray often and prefer to cover full time because of that. Others see it just as a local assembly command. My personal opinion is the instructions unique to the gathered assembly start later on in first Corinthians 11 (v17). Up to that point, general admonishments for the believer are given. Not everybody believes that however. So I say seek the LORD and the counsel of your husband on the matter. :) Again, thank you for the kind words!
@lisahooper7578
@lisahooper7578 Жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor one more question...theologically, should a woman cover full time because we are to "pray without ceasing"? This convicts me to think I should cover full time but would love to hear your thoughts about this. Also, I wish we could go to your church! We are reformed, spirit filled, believe in head covering, family integrated church, etc. Hard to find anywhere! Thank you! Lisa ;-)
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor Жыл бұрын
I think having a covering with you is totally acceptable. But I’m not against full time covering. My wife does. You guys would totally fit in! We are a hard combo to find! #oddballs 😊
@leo11190
@leo11190 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor!! Im in total agreement. I’m going to read your book! I live in Los Ángeles California… do you know any churches that teach sound doctrine like yours and women head cover?
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! As far as churches near you, there are several that teach sound doctrine. Head covering though? Not really. It really is a hard to find combination. Praying God leads you!
@leo11190
@leo11190 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor thank you!!! Praying too🙏🏽. Keep the great videos coming!
@leo11190
@leo11190 2 жыл бұрын
Pastor McCleod, I just had to watch this video again…. You explain this topic with such clarity, thank you. I’m wondering what suggestions you might have for addressing those questions that pertain to Messianic Judaism, where we see the men wearing a kipa at temple and a lot of women uncovered because the tradition ( or mandate) is not found in the Torah. I’m Messianic, and I believe that the whole counsel of God is for today, including those found in 1Cor.11, therefore I do my best to honor the commandments as well as the traditions found in the New Covenant. But what do I say to those who ask me to explain how these scriptures pertaining to head covering can be taken literally when they are not found in the Torah?
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 2 жыл бұрын
Sis Leonor, thank you for the kind words and question. I don't know that much about Messianic Judaism. Do you hold that the New Testament is as inspired as the Old Testament, including the Torah?
@leo11190
@leo11190 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor thank you so much for your speedy response… in answer to your question, yes, absolutely… but the difficulty with this passage in 1Cor. 11 lies in the fact that it cannot be reconciled with Torah. We don’t see the New Covenant as a new set of commandments, but as a fulfillment of the Old., ie., Jesus is the prophesied Messiah… the Torah is now written on our hearts and not done away with, Etc With that said, we believe that Jesus did not come to change the Torah, but to fulfill it and we are to walk on His steps…., I personally believe that the tradition ( I see it more as a mandate) is a symbol of what is already written in the Torah, that women are covered by their husbands… the head covering is a symbol of that order of headship. However, it’s very difficult explaining this to family and members of our congregation because the question always arises, Where is it written in the Torah? The few women that cover in our temple do so for modesty reasons, not for the sake of obedience to what is written in 1Cor. 11.
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 2 жыл бұрын
@@leo11190 Understood. I hold to a different understanding of how our LORD fulfills the Torah/OT and see Paul’s instruction in 1 Cor 11 as something unique for the NT Church, hence its inability to be reconciled with Messianic practice: men being covered and women not covered. Very Respectfully, I’d say in Christ, the “how much more” principle is in effect and the lesser gives way to the greater, so we must conform our practice. (Hebrews 7-10) Interestingly, my Sunday sermon (LORD willing) is a reexamination of God’s Law and how Christians should view it today. :) Timely discussion! I wish I could be more help!
@leo11190
@leo11190 2 жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor oh thank you Pastor McLeod. You are a great help!! Lots to think about and consider…I would love to watch or hear your upcoming service. Will it be on KZfaq?
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 2 жыл бұрын
@@leo11190 Yes Ma'am. On our church page: kzfaq.info
@famolina07
@famolina07 Жыл бұрын
What would you say for daughters growing up in a Christian home, should they cover their heads?
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a good thing. Mine do.
@lisahooper7578
@lisahooper7578 Жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor at what age would you say a daughter should cover?
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor Жыл бұрын
@@lisahooper7578 An answer with a question: at what age should a son stop wearing hats in church? LOL Teasing you! Obviously, even our toddling little guys would instructed to take off his cap and any age. I think just as soon as the little cutie stops pulling it off her head! :)
@lisahooper7578
@lisahooper7578 Жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor Good point!
@d.morgan9247
@d.morgan9247 4 жыл бұрын
Would this mean women should be covered only during church service or prayer time? Thank you.
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question! There are obviously different views on this question. My view is based on the flow of 1 Cor 11. Paul doesn't seem to specifically mention church gatherings until v17, suggesting that perhaps the ordinance had a broader meaning. Also, considering the strength of his language ("shame" and "dishonor"), would it be ok for men to pray covered outside of church or "preach with a hat on?" Most men remove their hats for something as "simple" as saying grace over food because they are approaching God. I think the commands should be observed during all times of prayer and prophesying, both inside and outside the church, for both men and women. Also, every reason given for the ordinance is true both in and outside the church gather: creation order and headship, shame over being shorn, man being the glory of God and woman being the glory of man, angelic observance, nature, and even the conformity of all the churches. Again, lots of disagreement here. For example, some that hold to the "church only" view say that the chapter itself is about church ordinances, those things that are to be observed in the weekly gathering. I get that and very respectfully disagree. :) As far as women being covered when not praying or prophesying outside of the church, I think that is a personal choice. I do think though that the practice of many godly women of old of covering their glory for modesty reasons and at least having a scarf or something with them is prudent. You never know when you'll be called upon to pray! Anywho, just my $.02! Blessings!
@d.morgan9247
@d.morgan9247 4 жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor Thank you very much. I have been wrestling with this for about 15 years. You were so kind to give a generous and thoughtful reply. God Bless.
@lisahooper7578
@lisahooper7578 Жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor This was very helpful!
@pepchep
@pepchep Жыл бұрын
Paul focus was primarily center around public worship. However, it is certain that praying and prophesying is not confined in an assembly. However, it is done primarily in an assembly or in one's private home, but evidently, the instructions is clearly for during time of praying and prophesying, which shows that the hair doesn't always have to be covering only during those times, so yes when a woman does either of the two her head should be cover because of what the covering symbolize and that's God's Authority firstly and then mens Authority over the woman. This shows the woman submission to Authority. Unlike Eve, who rebels against authority.
@annetteblackwell2253
@annetteblackwell2253 4 жыл бұрын
Looking for a church home you are affiliated in the Detroit, Mi area or close- finding a biblical teaching church has been more than difficult😒
@CRCCPastor
@CRCCPastor 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right Sis. Annette. It can be very difficult. We are in Virginia, but the LORD always has a house for His people. Be encouraged and keep looking!
@annetteblackwell2253
@annetteblackwell2253 4 жыл бұрын
@@CRCCPastor Wow. Thanks for getting back my husband and I will keep looking please be encouraged to PREACH THE GOSPEL when coming out of so many lies we need to be taught the word so we can live and fight the good fight. Will be praying for your continued strength.
@SpencerLetts
@SpencerLetts 4 жыл бұрын
@Annette Blackwell check this out. Maybe you can find one near you. www.gospelhall.org/index.php/assembly-address-list/241-united-states/264-michigan
@FA-God-s-Words-Matter
@FA-God-s-Words-Matter 2 ай бұрын
If we follow those who subscribe to the doctrine of women wearing veils, then it can be argued that the most often cited verse is 1st Corinth. 11:5, which states: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.” According to many of those who believe women ought to wear veils this verse supposedly implies that a woman’s uncovered head is a woman who does not wear a veil. Such a woman is either dishonoring God, their own physical head or her husband for failing to wear it which implies that they are in disobedience. Some have gone so far as to say it is a sin. Another assumption is that the woman being referred to already has long hair and since they conclude that the covering is a veil then it must be referring to an “additional” covering otherwise it would clash with verse 15 stating that God gave women long hair for a covering. Another conclusion is that women ought to be covered ONLY when praying and prophesying and for men to be uncovered, which would make it seem as though it were something that can be placed on or taken off like a veil. You’ve probably noticed by now it takes several assumptions to reach the conclusion that women ought to wear a foreign object on their heads, despite the lack of evidence. * Does the Bible really give a clear command that women should wear a veil? The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word “veil” or “cloth” or any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the woman’s head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word “cover” is unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there aren’t really “two” conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the “two-condition” argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. * Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions… Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. If they were meant to be conditions then why would Paul say in verse 7… “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.” If the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the “image and glory of God,” then why assume Paul was saying that there were only TWO conditions in verse 4? Wouldn’t 7 override any supposed conditions? Shouldn’t that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? But let’s continue. Verses 8 and 9 give us another understanding that Paul must have been referring to praying and prophesying as examples because he adds the order of creation into the mix. “For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man CREATED for the woman; but the woman for the man.” If Paul states that the creation order has something to do with the reason as to why women ought to cover (in long hair) and men to be uncovered (aka have short hair) then we can conclude that this doctrine must be bound in NATURE. That is to say that it must have taken place since the creation of Adam and Eve and BEFORE the manufacturing of veils or hats, and BEFORE the creation of churches, which is another reason why hair easily fits the mold. This is confirmed when reading verses 13 and 14 when Paul asks you to make an observational judgment that if it is comely (aka pleasant looking) for a woman to pray uncovered (in short hair) and that even NATURE teaches us that a man with long hair is shameful. Why would Paul ask you to think that something as unnatural as a woman without a hat would look off and then say something as natural as long hair would look off on a man? Paul was saying that not being covered in long hair especially while praying looks uncomely and in the same breath he continues and says men with long hair also looks naturally wrong. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? ….. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. Now some have tried to argue that the covering is somehow Jesus or men (some erroneously add husband here as well). But since the passage in 1st Corinthians 11 already states that the man or Jesus are already referred to as the heads one should not mix things up and add that they are the covering especially when this word is referring to something else entirely, Plus it wouldn’t make sense if we were to replace the word covering, covered or uncovered with Jesus, man or husband. So, do the words “covered,” “cover,” “uncovered” and “covering” refer to long and/or short hair or some kind of foreign head covering? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. “But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words “covered” or “cover” (which are synonymous with “covering”) should be understood as long hair as well. If that’s true, then to be “uncovered” would mean “short hair.” If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head “covered.” Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 that’s because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
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