Speed Test...150lb Forward vs Reverse Limb Mini Strikers

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The Water Swatters

The Water Swatters

8 ай бұрын

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@MarkJLarsonOutdoors
@MarkJLarsonOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing all the speeds! Good luck hunting my friend!
@Brian-zd7bv
@Brian-zd7bv 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoy your material and content. Thank you for putting these videos out
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, you're welcome.
@MrMatthewhg
@MrMatthewhg 8 ай бұрын
Useful combination of hard data and real world experience.
@CROWAIRSOFTNI
@CROWAIRSOFTNI 8 ай бұрын
epic to see these being compared both realistically and look forward to seeing your future hunting vids
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Got a few hunting videos from last year. If you're interested in seeing how they work on deer.
@jasonbrenner9814
@jasonbrenner9814 8 ай бұрын
Great video , good luck on your deer hunting!
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!!
@HeyItsRonHere
@HeyItsRonHere 8 ай бұрын
I recently discovered your channel and just wanna say how much I've been enjoying it. You're like Kendall Gray but a lot less loud. I like your demeanor, you're more like a real person and less like a KZfaq going through the motions.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Those are kind words...Thanks!!!!!!
@BudBanksOutdoors
@BudBanksOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Great video! You got right to the point and did the test. I hate when people drag out a video to get minutes watched.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Shoot thanks! I sometimes think I'm to much to the point.
@AnglingSpiders
@AnglingSpiders 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic comparison and I am sure people will appreciate this info.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Yall iced over up there yet?
@catherineharris4746
@catherineharris4746 7 ай бұрын
Simply outstanding!💥👍👍👍
@michaelmello9510
@michaelmello9510 8 ай бұрын
Nice work thanks 🤙
@JWnFlorida
@JWnFlorida 8 ай бұрын
Great info. Great video.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@johnnyringo2670
@johnnyringo2670 8 ай бұрын
Great video, that reverse draw has impressive power.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
It's flicking them little bolts pretty fast!!
@isobignugget7497
@isobignugget7497 8 ай бұрын
Awesome test, man.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ffaoutdoors
@ffaoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure it’s somewhere on the channel but I was wondering what part of the state you are at? Great video!!
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
I'm in the SE part of the state.
@Minnesotalife
@Minnesotalife 8 ай бұрын
Nice. My Excalibur 308 short does 296 with a 350 grain bolt. I got 2 pass throughs on bow openers with it this year.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
That's where it's at! Doubling up on opening day.
@maxsocalangler
@maxsocalangler 7 ай бұрын
Awesome info brother 🤙
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@ltoutdoorsman
@ltoutdoorsman 8 ай бұрын
Great video bro can't wait for the hunting season!!
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
I'm gonna have to get after it. Kinda hard to mustard up the drive to hunt when it's so hot. We've shot a few...now I'm waiting on cooler weather!! Come on cooler weather!
@ltoutdoorsman
@ltoutdoorsman 8 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters MAN I'm waiting for cooler wather too it's been way to hot to do anything
@brightbkh07
@brightbkh07 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome! I need to get the small reverse bow for gator hunting because my full size crossbow takes up way too much room on my boat!
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Should get the job done. If ya got a good reel setup. We were talking about doing just that last summer. I lost touch with the fella setting it up.
@brightbkh07
@brightbkh07 8 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters I have an AMS reel with a float attached and basically only use the crossbow to attach the float with a bolt. I haven’t ever tried to use the bow to kill a gator and reel it it, just to tag it with the float in case it gets off my fishing rod with snatch hooks so I can get back to it again. The more lines you get in one the less chance you have of it getting away and you never seeing it again. I hope you get to try it out one day man! I love gator hunting and do it almost every year.
@ThirdLawPair
@ThirdLawPair 5 күн бұрын
Wow, those are almost the same numbers you'd expect out of a traditional longbow or recurve.
@dave1secondago
@dave1secondago 8 ай бұрын
brilliant test shooting bro
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@JumbleTronChannel
@JumbleTronChannel 8 ай бұрын
Reverse seems to have a slight edge. Awesome👍
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Indeed...it has the longest power stroke.
@MrMatthewhg
@MrMatthewhg 8 ай бұрын
Is it just the string jumping risk that stops you hunting with the standard 120? Or does it not have the power to pass through? At 15 yards I would have thought they would not have time to duck.
@lamardaniels6625
@lamardaniels6625 8 ай бұрын
Good day will you recommend the mini ballistic bats crossbow as a quick reload Squirrel popper? Or the one you are using now?
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
They're the same bow branded and sold by different companies. I use William Tell Archery Equipment.
@Glock30Fan
@Glock30Fan 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Not far from what I would have expected.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 7 ай бұрын
Yeah they're not long range weapons.
@Gk2003m
@Gk2003m 3 ай бұрын
Your highest energy (= best knock down) is the 347g bolt in the reverse draw at over 35 foot-pounds. Can the safety be defeated on the magazine versions?
@douglastinsley4849
@douglastinsley4849 7 ай бұрын
I need a lot more detail on the bolts that you're using for hunting, I mean does the broadheads screw on to the bolts because because maybe I'm looking in the wrong place on William tell's website, Can you please help me with this
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 7 ай бұрын
williamtellarcherysupplies.com/product/4-x-customized-14-inch-shaft-hunting-bolts-for-150lbs-mini-striker-pistol-crossbow-and-120lbs-mini-striker-pistol-crossbow/
@michaelcurtis8114
@michaelcurtis8114 8 ай бұрын
you can get a little more power by putting a twist in the cables. I did this to my bow and it seems to be shooting a little bit faster. I haven't chronoed it yet. I had to put an extra half twist in one side though, just to correct the timing. Let me know if you do this and if you noticed any difference. Thanks for the video by the way.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
I might try this next time I swap strings.
@wysman2669
@wysman2669 7 ай бұрын
If you decided to do it. I bet everyone including myself would like to know how it worked out? I wonder if by putting that however much extra tension. If it will fatigue the limbs and mechanical parts faster?? I really enjoy your vids!
@michaelcurtis8114
@michaelcurtis8114 7 ай бұрын
@@wysman2669 I did do it. Details in my comment above.
@twl10101
@twl10101 6 ай бұрын
Is there a difference in shaft diameter between the standard practice bolts and the new hunting bolts? Also, do you have any problems with your bolts not sitting flush with the rails in the front? Mine have a tendency to slightly rise and sit to the right at the front of the rails on my Mini Reverse. I sent an email to William Tell but got no response about the bolts not sitting flush in the front. Thanks
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 6 ай бұрын
I have had trouble with some arrows I've made rising at the front. The sting bolts i had did that too. I can't tell ya why they do it though. I've seen this with my full size crossbows. I always hunt with the same arrow so I haven't paid much attention to it. I'll carry extras but shoot the same arrow until i break or loose it. I'll look into the cause and see if I can come up with an answer.
@twl10101
@twl10101 6 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters I checked again today because I failed to mention I am also using some arrows I made that are about 6mm in diameter compared to the 5.4- 5.5mm target arrows. The larger shafts rise a lot compared to the smaller ones. Also most of the standard arrows sit fine, there a couple that lift a little. I did notice if I lift up on the plastic arm that holds the arrow in place, the 6mm shafts sit down like they should. I'm going to also see if I can raise the limbs some because the cams sit below the rail and cause what I believe is too much pressure on the string serving and will cause faster wear. I will let you know if I discover anything to remedy these problems also. I will need to build a limb compressor first and then start experimenting.
@twl10101
@twl10101 5 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters I fixed my string issue by having a friend mill the bracket that holds the limbs. He cut the depth down by 0.100 and maintained the radius where it fastens to the main frame. This gave me approx. 0.030 clearance under the string so it will no longer rub on the frame and cause excessive wear. The string sits perfect in the nock also. As far as the bolts lifting goes, I believe it has to do with the fletching location and also excessive glue left on the shafts. I placed some bare 6mm shafts that haven't been fletched on the rail and they all sit perfect. I will need to pay closer attention to my glue process and be sure to wipe "any and all" extra glue off. I may also need to tweek my fletching jig a little.
@QUYMANCING
@QUYMANCING 8 ай бұрын
Mantep josss gandos
@piosguatapara.4238
@piosguatapara.4238 Ай бұрын
Qual o site que consigo comprar?..... Obrigado
@dana44169
@dana44169 8 ай бұрын
Sure is great to know your weapons,what they can do,and to put the groceries in the freezer 😊
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Indeed!!!!
@Toll0
@Toll0 8 ай бұрын
Have you heard of the Cobra Siege 300?
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
I have...it's looks like a full size repeating crossbow.
@user-jt9vi4ib7i
@user-jt9vi4ib7i 8 ай бұрын
I think with the superior momentum the vlad limb with the 405 bolt would be equal in its penetration power to the mini striker with the 347 gr. Bolt would be my guess.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Probably but it would be moving at the speed of smell.
@user-jt9vi4ib7i
@user-jt9vi4ib7i 8 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters 150 fps seems decent am I wrong
@RaisedOutdoors
@RaisedOutdoors 7 ай бұрын
That reverse limb shoots hard
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 7 ай бұрын
Sure does, for such a small bow.
@douglastinsley4849
@douglastinsley4849 7 ай бұрын
I'm thinking I'm looking at the wrong William tell website because I'm not seeing that different bolts that you're using
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 7 ай бұрын
williamtellarcherysupplies.com/
@MyMyself-yr5ks
@MyMyself-yr5ks 8 ай бұрын
The last time you tested the 120 lb mini striker it produced 131 ft per sec. With a 355 gr bolt. Now you getting 168 ft per second with only 8 less grains. What happened did you set it up for more power somehow? Was it seating of the bolt causung deminished acceleration? 🤔
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure....may have been that new string. May have been the new chronograph. I'll go back and look and see if I can give ya a better answer.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Definitely the bolt seating against the string. That gives the string nearly another half inch to influence the bolt.
@user-jt9vi4ib7i
@user-jt9vi4ib7i 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheWaterSwattersStill nice knowing that a bolt only carrying 13.5 ft lbs with a 350 gr. Plus weight can take a deer close up. How close were you again.
@user-jt9vi4ib7i
@user-jt9vi4ib7i 8 ай бұрын
Believe it or not the Vlad produces a two ft lb difference from the mini striker with a 405 gr. Bolt going 150 ft per second. This produces just over 20 ft lbs of energy with a 90 lb limb. Where the mini striker is producing roughly 21.75 ft with a 347 gr. Bolt.
@whoisknight2297
@whoisknight2297 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, and 35 ft 347 gr. with MS Reverse, that's nice.
@dana44169
@dana44169 7 ай бұрын
Ten point has the fastest crossbow at 505 fps which is reverse draw,Ravin has a standard crossbow at 500 fps that you can get that has a rechargeable cranking unit,and Scorpyd has a reverse draw crossbow that shoots 480 fps.Scorpyd will customize a crossbow to you particular needs,and you they are not readily available as other crossbows. Great videos, looking forward to the next one.😊I shoot Scorpyd crossbows
@piosguatapara.4238
@piosguatapara.4238 8 ай бұрын
Aonde eu compro uma dessa?.....sou do Brasil
@user-jt9vi4ib7i
@user-jt9vi4ib7i 8 ай бұрын
I bet that reverse limb could benefit from a 425 gr. Bolt I think. 🤔 Whats your thoughts?
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Probably as far as penetration goes, but I need speed to deer hunt. Penetration hasn't been an issue, most of the deer I've shot I've got clean pass throughs. The problem is the bolt getting to the target before it ducks. I've heard people claim to shoot deer at 30 and even 40 yards with these bows. I won't argue but I will say it can't be done constantly. I've shot 8 deer now with these small bows all inside 18 yards and they always jump the string and duck several inches before the arrow arrives. At 30 yards...we won't even talk about 40....they would have time to smoke a cigarette, sip some coffee then get out of the way. This will cause lots of bad shots and gimped up deer.
@user-jt9vi4ib7i
@user-jt9vi4ib7i 7 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters What level of speed is required in fps to redress that issue in your opinion?
@cabecadealhonogueira2445
@cabecadealhonogueira2445 8 ай бұрын
Boa noite !, consegui mandar uma pra mim?, Moro no Brasil.
@dustinh4175
@dustinh4175 8 ай бұрын
This totally justifies the chronograph purchase
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Lol the fly bow didn't do it for ya!?
@BigPark51
@BigPark51 8 ай бұрын
I am a little disappointed the fly-x-treme wasn’t included in this video.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Lol that think shoots a blistering 29fps. It would've made the other bows look bad. 🤣
@flushot6513
@flushot6513 4 ай бұрын
I like idea for small game put a blunt tip on and rabbit hunt
@bjbrown8716
@bjbrown8716 8 ай бұрын
Facts.I just replaced my 120 with the 150 rd and I did notice where my 120 would get lodged in my particular target and the 150 rd goes clean through it...Anybody know a drywall guy in denver?
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Lol I have 2 holes in the drywall at my house from arrows going through targets. My wife won't let me shoot inside anymore.
@davidthomson2794
@davidthomson2794 8 ай бұрын
A bowyer in the UK makes aftermarket strings as those these Xbows come with aren't great. He's seeing iirc 337 fps with a 165 grain bolt.
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
I've seen a fell on KZfaq who makes strings. Says he sells'em on Ebay I've been meaning to look into getting a couple.
@davidthomson2794
@davidthomson2794 8 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters he's called I think the Norfolk Bowyer, exactly the same length as original but obviously much better material and a little thicker. They sort out the cam timing well did on mine without twisting and tighten up the limbs a little. He suggests they are good for iirc 500+ shots. Just had a look grs-x-bow r&d. Love your videos by the way no nonsense and informative! 👍
@douglastinsley4849
@douglastinsley4849 7 ай бұрын
😂 Never mind LOL
@aaronmeyler8838
@aaronmeyler8838 7 ай бұрын
Great review can you buy the complete bow package with the forward limbs don't see it on the site?😊
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 7 ай бұрын
I don't think so. I'm petty sure the 150lb limbs are an upgrade.
@michaelpurdy5908
@michaelpurdy5908 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if they can make 175lb limbs
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
Goodness I'm not sure it would hold together. There is a tremendous amount of tension in these little bows. Lol they might explode with 175lb limbs. Then again they might not...someone may find a way to hold the package together.
@mentalmoto763
@mentalmoto763 8 ай бұрын
I emailed william tell archery and asked if they were the designers of the little crossbows and they claimed to be. I found the same bows were made by FMA, I dont support or use companies the openly lie to their customers. Just something to be aware of. These little bows are made by FMA and named Supersonics. They are not a william tell product, just they put a sticker on them and mark up the price! Just an FYI william tell claimed 420 fps in their ads
@TheWaterSwatters
@TheWaterSwatters 8 ай бұрын
They have never lied to me. Everyone knows they are a resale company that the Striker, Bat, FMA are all the same bow.
@mentalmoto763
@mentalmoto763 8 ай бұрын
@@TheWaterSwatters I asked them if they were the designers and if they were interested in seeing some designs, they replied with yes its our design and said they wanted to see my work, then I found out its designed by FMA engineering. So I guess not surprised because (not all) most businesses and people in the USA are ripoffs!
@JamesKing-jw6hs
@JamesKing-jw6hs Ай бұрын
You sold them a reverse to me, i eas gonna get a Ravin but in pedojoe potato heads economy i cant afford it
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