Thanks :)

Thanks, Willy. Your positive feedback is always appreciated😊

Thank you, David :)

Thank you, Greg😊

Thank you for your kind words of encouragement :)

Agreed. Thanks for your feedback😊

Haha, yes the new Speed Triple is a beast :)

Good choice. Enjoy :)

Lol, thanks Andi. Ok, V8 is maybe stretching it a bit👍😊

Pressure’s on me then for the Speed Twin test ride😊 See you at Triumph Algarve👍

Thanks for your feedback :)

Another nice comment. Thank you, Lyn :)

Thanks😊

Thanks, Timothy. I would like to do a comparison between the two bikes, but my local BMW dealer hasn't got a demonstrator Nine T in yet. Hopefully in a few weeks.

Thank you😊

Thank you, Nuno :)

Thank you :) I have actually done a comparison with the Street Triple. Link in this video's description :)

Thank you. We are lucky down here, although this Christmas week is looking distinctly dodgy. I think my Speed Twin will be spending its time connected to the battery conditioner in the garage. Oh well, spring will be here before we know it. Ride safe :)

Thanks😊

Thanks, Zedi :)

I totally get that. I love my Twin, but still sometimes wish I’d gone for the completely mental Triple. I think my licence (and life?) is safer with the Twin, though😬

Thanks! Sounds like an awesome trip. Not jealous at all. My eldest son lives in Vancouver😊

@@RocketMan_Moto Does he ride?

Not yet, but he's just taken his theory test (not sure what you call it) and is going to start lessons once the worst of the winter is over.

Thank you, Richard. Always good to hear I'm not alone :)

Thank you, Paul. Ride safe :)

Have you ridden a 1200gs ?

@@chrishart8548 No Chris, I've not and that's because in my view they aren't an attractive bike. Not called tractors for nothing. And maybe too big for me at 5 foot 10? They just don't appeal but plenty of folk love them. Maybe I should test ride but they're expensive to buy, unreliable, heavy as, rusted frames, cracked swing arm, expensive to repair. But maybe I just remember the bad stuff because they don't appeal. Some kind of preference reinforcement 🤣

@@S1000xrhp they are not that tall especially the normal r1200gs not gsa comes in low chassis and a lower seat. Probably 775mm seat height after both. Not much goes rong of looked after. And a 2013 could be had for around £8k. The looks are subjective really.

Thanks, Kurush. I agree completely with your analysis👍

Oh yes. The Speed Triple is insane. I'm a 'mature rider', but even I was struggling to keep to the speed limits

Thanks, Dave. I’m still very pleased with my Speed Twin. The Triple is considerably faster, but like you I’m in my 50s and so don’t need so much power. Ride safe😊

@@RocketMan_Moto You too my friend 👍🏻

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Great bike ;)

I hear you! Thanks and ride safe :)

Oh yes! :)

That’s fair enough. As you say, everyone is different. Glad you’re enjoying your Speed Triple; it is an awesome bike😊

Thank you, Alex😊👍

I had a Street Triple RS back in 2017. I loved it, but just as you describe, I found myself riding everywhere 'at 200kph'. It became irritating, so I tried the Trident, which was great, but I missed the power. The Speed Twin for me is the best compromise: it's got the power and torque, but it's a 'lazy' engine, that doesn't like to be revved. You can go fast if you want, but it's not pushing you constantly to break the speed limit. As for the Speed Triple, that is completely mental, and you find yourself going everywhere at 300kph, lol. Hope this helps :)

I have never ridden the 1050, but I've heard lots of good things about it. The new one is a bit peaky.

The Speed Triple 1050 RS is still a very capable bike. Pick up a very low mileage one for a considerable cost saving over the newer 1200RS. Plus the 1050 RS has those lovely twin Arrow cans.

Sorry, the S3 1050 RS is faster in every way up to 7000rpm than the 1200RS…..no comparison at all to the Speed Twin…..I’ve owned a Speed Twin and now the S3 1050 RS

I love my Speed Twin, but it wouldn’t be my first choice for Touring. The Tiger or Tracer are much better for that. The Speed Twin is perfect for short blasts of fun, but a bit limited (and uncomfortable) for trips of more than, say, 4-500km😊

Thanks, Graham :)

Thanks for your feedback😊

Thanks, Wilbur. Not sure what you mean by 'shield'. Do you mean the fly screen? It's from Rizoma.

Glad you enjoyed it :)

Thanks, Joe. I did ride the Nine T briefly before ordering my ST and enjoyed it, but it's very expensive here in Portugal, so I ordered the Triumph :)

I own both a Thruxton R and R9T and find the Thruxton R to be better performing bike with the R9T to be a tad more comfortable.

Thanks. I wish I could :)

Fabulous bike. Enjoy😊👍

Thanks, Sam. No squeaking from the new M50s :)

What did you end up buying?

No problem, Trevor. The EBC pads I fitted to my 2022 Speed Twin bear the reference number: GPFAX447HH. Hope this helps :)

@@RocketMan_Moto thanks for your time, much appreciated. Keep the posts coming!

No problem. Thanks for your encouragement.

Thanks, Alex. I have been told that the 'old' Speed Twins were better road bikes. The 1200RS is a fabulous bit of engineering, but a bit mad for the public roads. A bit like driving around in a F1 car. It sounds as if you've got yourself a great deal - hope the weather allows you to enjoy it soon. If it's any consolation, the weather is very poor here all this week. Rain, thunder, dark grey clouds... I might as well be in the UK, lol :)

The 1200 RS is a much better bike than the 1050 RS. I don't know anyone who regrets to have made the jump. The gearbox ratio is a bit lower with the 1050 RS so you might have the illusion it has a bit more character between 3 and 4000 rpm. But it is not really true, and stay a gear lower with the 1200 RS and you will see what bike as more character 😉

@@RocketMan_Moto Thanks for your reply. Yes I am hoping my newly purchased Speed Triple1050RS will be good as I remember it. I am currently debating whether the £287 the Triumph dealer has quoted to fit Triumph's own heated grips is worth it. Me thinks it is a bit steep and just to fit Oxford ones as I have done previously on other bikes. I don't ride in winter but my hands tend to feel the cold. Agree with your observations 100% on the new Speed Triple 1200 RS, so much so that the SDR 3.0 that I subsequently rode felt more suited for the road as the suspension felt more compliant and plush which is saying something!! I think Triumph dropped the ball slightly with their new 1200RS. I would be mighty pissed off if I had bought one thinking this is the top bike only for Triumph to announce another potentially better version the RR with semi-active suspension within a year. I would still prefer to be in the Algarve than here in the UK even if the weather turned bad for a few days there. The summers are so much longer warmer drier ............... so much more sunshine but then I guess you know this as it is likely why you moved there. The last few days here in the UK have been miserable. Today in Cambs it is a day of heavy grey leaden skies, misty, foggy, very cold and a strengthening easterly wind giving a biting wind chill. Storms, heavy rain or blizzards for Christmas Day and Boxing day. Lovely, not. ATB

@@alaincaspar2148 Thanks for trying to piss on my enjoyment of my new to me bike purchase. Yes I have ridden the new 1200RS. Are you a track day fan boy as this is the only place you'd be able to full exploit it's potential? I suspect it's capabilities are probably far more than the owners that ride it. I think it is wasted on the roads quite apart from the suspension being too firm for crappy UK roads. Fine on a race track.

The climate is clearly better down here, but I miss the UK sometimes. Covid has made travel very difficult. Oh well, I will just have to make the most of what I’ve got😊

The Speed Triple is fantastic, but too much for me as an every-day bike

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Thanks, Dave. A Speed Twin RS, or whatever, would be great. Triumph don't seem bothered developing the ST really, do they? All sorts of unnecessary special editions of the other models, but they seem to forget about the humble ST.

@@RocketMan_Moto No worries & yes I've got a 2018 Street triple rs & love it but I also want a Speed Twin so the wife can get on the back + I just love the look of the Speed Twin but with all the reviews I keep reading I'm holding out just in case the bring out an Rs or something like a special edition with trick bits on so you never know? 🙄🤔🤞🏻👍🏻

I get that - I held off buying the original 2019 Speed Twin, because I thought the suspension and brakes were too basic given the price. I don't think we will ever see an RS model, though, but as you say, you never know.

@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah Fingers crossed & if they don't do a Rs or at least one with Ohlins + Maybe different Clocks Coz they would do my head in to much going on with them Clocks? 🙄🤞🏻👍🏻

@@RocketMan_Moto I think Triumph maybe feel they already have a Speed Twin RS version with the Thruxton R/RS?

I'll see what I can do. In a nutshell, the YSS are good mid-range shocks, that I chose because TECs were too basic and Öhlins/Nitron were too expensive :)

@@RocketMan_Moto Thank you very much! Look forward to more videos from your channel.

I completely understand that, Brian. I had a 2017 Street Triple a few years ago, but became tired of riding everywhere 'at 100mph'. The Speed Triple is awesome, but I just knew I would end up losing my licence (or worse), so I went with the more sensible and more manageable Speed Twin. Six months on, while I continue to drool over the Triple, I know I made the right decision :)

Ola Rui. Oh yes! The Trident is good, but can't compare to the 1200s - torque is so much more present. It's a different experience, and I love it, but maybe not one that suits you - you need to try before you buy :) PS we were in Porto for the first time last week - nice city :)

@@RocketMan_Moto thanks in advice. Best City in Portugal for sure :) haha Have a good day

I can well believe it. A constant invitation to break the speed limit.

Thanks for your feedback, Michael :)

Nothing wrong with being old :)

Haha, I would buy one to keep as a museum piece, if I could afford one. They are fabulous machines, but a bit silly as an only bike :)

I love that deep red colour😍

@@RocketMan_Moto I know aggressive yet posh; nothing near the conflictual geometries and tacky graphics that characterize most contemporary designs 😆

Exactly. I'd almost buy one just for the way it looks!

@@RocketMan_Moto 😂

Thanks, Dave. Difficult to record the sound of a motorbike without sophisticated equipment. I do everything on my phone :)

Haha, same age. Wise choice👍

Oh yes, I read and reply to all comments😊 Thank you for your kind words of encouragement.

Awesome machine

I still wish I could afford both, though :)

Haha, I get that - my Speed Twin is similar :)

Lol, I hear you. I sometimes miss my 2017 Street Triple RS :)

It’s from Decathlon. Originally designed for bicycles.

@@RocketMan_Moto thanks... could you send the model number and how you attached to your bike

Here you go. Attaches to the frame using velcro straps. It could do to be about 4-5cm shorter to fit the Speed Twin perfectly, but you can squash it up a bit :) www.decathlon.co.uk/p/300-bike-frame-bag-1-5l/_/R-p-120030?mc=8354453

This is what I keep telling RocketWife: one bike just isn't enough

@@RocketMan_Moto N + 1 :D

Lol

Both awesome machines.

That would be great

I'm afraid I don't know. Several viewers from India have asked me, but it's not really something we worry about in Europe. That's probably why the figures are not mentioned on websites. Sorry :)

@@RocketMan_Moto : Yes, we have a tough time trying NOT to scrape the speed breakers in India. May be, you can measure the GC with a tape or perform a 'coke can' test - place an empty can below the engine oil sump.😀

Oh, I understand now - it's for speed humps. I thought it was potholes. I'll see what I can do :)

The Speed Triple is a weapon at higher speeds, but the Twin has more low-down grunt

Not available down here, but I’ve fitted the Breitling’s Öhlins shocks to my Speed Twin now

Duly noted - thanks :)

Hmm, well I went for the Speed and I know that was the right decision, but I wish I could afford both :)

Sometimes comparing chalk & cheese can make sense :)

Thanks :)

applies to women too

The Triple really isn't the best for passengers. The Twin is better, but depending on your sizes, you need to watch out for the relatively small seat. I have taken the wife on the Speed Twin once, but it was a squeeze (and she's tiny). I take the Honda ADV 350 if we're riding together. TBH, I wouldn't choose either of these two bikes for passenger duties :)

@@RocketMan_Moto thanks for the advice i keep that in mind. i already have a maxi scoot the yamaha x-max 300 and my wife loved it due to its seats thats very comfortable and wide she commented its like a sofa on wheels, we are thinking to get a second bike thats why we have been looking for it right now and the speed twin really got our attention.

Some old RocketMan, if you don’t mind😀

They’re both fabulous bikes, but imho, having tried the Kawa, the Triumph just pips it in terms of power & overall excitement. The Kawa wins in the looks department, though… by a hair. All depends on where your priorities lie. Nice dilemma to have😊

I agree, the Triple is a bit too much. But then again, most motorbikes are... As you say, nobody really NEEDS the 100hp of the Twin :)

I've heard the older Speed Triples are the ones to have

The Twin is the more sensible choice. Tuono Factory is a beast!

It's exactly that. A bit like a Ferrari - fabulous, but do you want all the responsibilities that go with the ownership?

You can adjust the stock shocks in the Twin for preload only

Agree 100% in terms of the 1st gear ;)

@@RocketMan_Moto Lol was asking adjustable levers, not suspension. Speed Triple has adjustable span clutch, and adjustable span/ratio front brake. Speed Twin has none of that, right? Not sure.

It's a fair point, no need for a naked bike to have a massive top speed, so dropping gearing would more useful.. Not that it's slow ofcourse haha.

@@xorbe2 speed twin has adjustable span for brake and clutch

Nice dilemma to be faced with :)

I've only ridden the Thruxton briefly. The engine feels almost identical to the Speed Twin's; it's just the (less comfortable) riding position that puts me off

Irresistible bike, enjoy :)

Thanks for your feedback

@@RocketMan_Moto sorry if that came across as arrogant, I’ve wondered the same thing myself, then checked the figures. I think it’s because the triple engine is smoother, so the twin seems to have more bottom end punch. Love both bikes 👌

That’s kind of what I said😊👍

@@RocketMan_Moto I think I’m going Rocket3 though. A little comfort and a lot of crazy torque Because I’m really not pragmatic in the least.

Fabulous machine, love the 221 special edition. Not sure I’d want it as my only bike, though😬

I agree the Triple is not that good looking - ugly eyes, as you say. I would find it hard giving up the Twin's torque.

Thanks for pointing this out, I have edited the video - should be better now :)

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The Speed Twin's torque curve certainly is addictive :)

Agreed👍

What a "sad" world if everyone of us just like the same :D

Absolutely

I’m not sure about the RR. Looking forward to trying it, though.

Don't you mean a golf IV for mk4 VI is mk6. I have a 2011 mondeo 2.0 PSA TdCi and a bmw F800gs both are good for torque. The full sports bikes are a lot prettier. I don't like the way this speed triple looks

@@chrishart8548 totally right! It is the IV 1.9 TDI 110 bhp 25 years edition, blue. :) Love it. My first car, new from the stand, 100% paid by me after countless summers at work :) . Still with me, soon to be passed on to my 16 years old daughter.

@ I did serious overtime and got the mondeo paid off In 1 1/2 years. Only just over 2 years old when I bought it. Was a lease vehicle one of our engineers cars

Ouch!

The 765 Street Triple is a different bike

@@RocketMan_Moto that’s my dyslexia kicking in. I was referring to the twin and wrote triple. I started writing one message, stopped came back in to finish and screwed everything. Up. Yeah. It would be interesting to see a 765 speed twin, lol. I’ve ridden both. I got a speed twin on loan for a while when they were working on my speed triple 1200, and, knowing full well what the speed twin was, it was just always asking for more gear but I just had nothing to rev to; it was a very short Revving bike. I just would always go for something, like the street triple or speed triple 1200 rs. That’s just me. I loved the street triple but the sizing of the street vs speed triple made me go with the extra power and slightly bigger bike in the speed triple. I will say, that speed twin was a fun little bike for all around and everything. That bike got horrible gas Mileage for what it was, surprisingly, but otherwise, it was fun, I trusted it to handle ( I would have to raise the pegs but that’s very easy), it was an easy bike to filter traffic, and it was cool going back to actually using a clutch again. It had upsides. I’m not going to totally dump on the bike. Just for me, I love me some speed triple. Even being the Owner a V4s panigale, mainly because of cost and fear, I am always a little too uptight and paranoid so it is less fun to own because I’m constantly thinking “it’s going to get stolen or molested.” I don’t want any bike stolen but it just hurts a little differently when it is $36k just gone and you know the cops will never find it. Hey, thanks for the call out, lol. Sadly, I catch myself doing this kind of goofy spaced out typing thing a lot, lol. Have good one.

@@RocketMan_Moto “shrugging shoulders in self shame.” Sadly, I know this. This is why it helps when you slow down, read, think, then comprise the words one wants spoken, lol. Im a boob.

Haha, no problem. I had a 765 Street Triple when they came out 5 years ago - fabulous bike, but I grew tired of riding everywhere 'at 100mph'

You’re probably right, but I like to focus on feel rather than statistics, and I stand by what I said: the Triple lacks grunt low down

Yes, I agree the heat can be a problem here in the summer

I agree. Thanks for your input :)