Speediance Adjustable Bench Review

Speediance Adjustable Bench Review - Is it Safe?

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@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

I plan to go back to the standard flat bench, but if this fits what you are looking for, it is a good option. Just don't use it for seated chest press with the Gym Monster. Use code "GamerBody" to save $120 off your order at: gamerbody.com/speediance Reviews: Speediance Gym Monster: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pq1mapmKxJPXXZ8.html Speediance Gym Pal: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJZonqt9qJuqdH0.html Free Content: ► Subscribe: gamerbody.com/youtube ► Workout: gamerbody.com/training/ ► Equipment: gamerbody.com/equipment/ ► Resources: gamerbody.com/resources/ Please leave any comments/questions below for follow-up videos!

@julianfp1952 2 күн бұрын

If I’m understanding the thrown-against-wall issue correctly I would think it should be quite easy for Speediance to fix if/when it releases the next version of the hardware. Some way to actively clamp the bench legs down to the base board should fix it and maybe only securing the legs furthest from the screen would be sufficient. I can think of a number of ways that Speediance could incorporate that as a design revision affecting the fold-down base plate and either one or both of the base bars at the bottom of the bench legs but right now I can’t immediately think of a neat solution that a customer could retrofit to an existing machine without voiding the warranty. Something might occur to me though.

@calisthenicsbeliever7602 11 ай бұрын

Yeah I would just personally away from any equipment that’s kinda stick like in build, since I’m trusting my safety with it

@TheWholeFNShow5 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for your review on the bench. A big con for me on a bench is when it wiggles or moves when you're adjusting the angle. I would pay for more a bench if it felt sturdy when it's being adjusted. I need to feel like the bench is secure if I'm doing an exercise. I felt anxious when you were describing the back of the bench falling down when doing a vertical chest press. I've been there before, not fun and I had free weights. Always like your videos and hearing your reviews. Definitely have speediance on the mind for purchase(I don't know when) but I appreciate you giving your thoughts and opinions on the equipment.

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

The main products have been great so far. Of course there are pros and cons (especially cost). I've really enjoyed the Gym Monster a lot since I put together my first review and have been using it the past few weeks.

@sn32594 9 ай бұрын

I got the speediance adjustable bench. And its bad. 1) adjusting the bench up and down is very difficult. Takes some pushing and kicking. Tracks are jammed or too tight. I think that's the fix they did to reduce the shaky bench, which made it less shaky but hard to adjust. 2) its still very shaky and feels cheap 3) sliding the seat back exposes the front metal leg which is a massive trip hazard, already banged my shins few times 4) picking up the bench is hard because the seat and back rest aren't held down to be grabbed. 5) the legs aren't adjustable any more, after attaching the middle bridge bar. Which was a band aid they added to make the gym monster bench work on gym pal. So the bench take a lot of space to store 6) the middle bridge for gym pal is very shaky and weak. It womt hold the gym pal down for single hand seated exercises. I agree, they shouldnhave not bothered to make it adjustable, left it a flat bench and used two long bars from front to back to hold the gym pal down rather than using just 1 long bar.

@sn32594 11 ай бұрын

You can do both incline and decline using a flat bench on devices like vitruvian and gym pal. You don't need the bench to incline or decline. How is that possible? Well, people are stuck in the old ways, because thats what they know. Open your mind, its simple physics. In the old way, gravity is directed vertically downwards while lifting an iron weight. So the bench has to be inclined or declined to create an angle between plane of motion to the vertical. But with a device like gym pal, the direction of force is along the rope from bar to exit point. If the plane of motion of the bar is vertical and above the exit point then it acts just like a iron weights. But here is what opens up thr possibilities. Thr bar doesn't have to be moved in a vertical plabe. The bar can be moved in an inclined or declined plane and the direction of force will be along the rope which ll be at an incline or decline, which effectively works as a traditional incline or decline movement while the bench stays flat thr whole time. So, a flat bench is all that is needed for device like vitruvian and gym pal.

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

Moreso just an observation and if you wish to still just push vertically, the bench can't decline. Most people know how to set that up verses pushing at the other angles.

@sn32594 11 ай бұрын

True. Most people only knew how to ride a bicycle before the motorized bicycle showed up, why didn't they ask for a pedal on a moped or a scooter? New ways wil expect people to operate slightly differently. On such a device, the bench doesn't have to incline or decline. The problem is that these companies aren't making a video that shows how to do an incline or decline bench press with a flat bench. The only thing that matters is joint angle and muscle activation.

@sn32594 11 ай бұрын

Same concept also applies to the gym monster. You stand in front of the monster screen and push in a horizontal plane ie perpendicular to the screen. If you want to do decline press, you ll need to press the bar downwards in a plane at an angle of 10-60 degrees with horizontal plane. If you want to do incline press, you ll need to press the bar upwards in a plane at an angle of 10-60 degrees with horizontal plane. This is possible with a cable machine where force is along rope, not along vertical like in free weights. But here is the caveat, at an angle greater than 45 degree, it can feel like things are about to slip off, but between 10-45 degrees, it's pretty much same joint angle and muscle activity as incline or decline press. Note : Tonal never needed an incline or decline bench, just a flat bench was more than sufficient. Speediance probably doesn't understand what i am saying here, just like most people dont understand this and complain about needing an incline/decline bench. It's the job of the manufacturer to make the right videos to educate the user because this is new and not easily obvious. You can test what I am talking about on a flat bench with gym pal and standing vertically in front of gym monster see how it works.

@stvnearl 9 ай бұрын

I found your Speediance reviews very informative, thanks. I think you may be able to put some dumbbells over the legs to prevwnt the pull back problem - worth a try. Also I think there are other benches you could probably us with the monster or pal unit. I think placing dumbbells on the unit itself if you have the Gympal would negate the need for the proprietary bench withbthe added bars- many benches have sufficient open clearance.

@GamerBody 9 ай бұрын

I think it will work if you have heavy enough dumbbells. The machine can generate a lot of force/resistance (more than what it feels like) so you would need 1quite a bit of weight on top of it to keep it in position. There are other benches that may work as well like you mentioned. My flybird bench doesn't fit because of the "A" frame style legs that hit the sides.

@CWaldman 11 ай бұрын

When you say "launched back into the wall", what part of the bench gave out? Did you report it to Speediance? I'm still awaiting my shipment which includes this bench and it has me concerned.

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

It wasn't really the bench that gave out, it was the resistance overcame my weight (and the benches weight) keeping it on the ground. Since the backrest is not up against a wall, as soon as that resistance was greater in the horizontal plain to what gravity could hold, it threw me backwards. Other than that it worked fine for me. I have some smaller other cons, but nothing too crazy. I am glad the backrest holds my weight and resistance I use. Speediance is aware and it appears they took down the chest press exercise after my review. I am glad they took the precaution and I hope they add in something in the future to allow the chest press with the bench in the future.

@CWaldman 11 ай бұрын

@@GamerBody thanks for clarifying. That seems like something that any bench would suffer from. I suppose you could find a clever way to strap the bench to the platform. Although, I would just recommend chest presses pushing vertically up from lying flat.

@CWaldman 9 ай бұрын

UPDATE: I purchased the Gym Monster and there bench. The bench is very light compared to benches on the market and I have experienced the same problem. I'm rigging the bench with straps wrapped under the platform so it stays in place. I agree that Speediance needs to come up with a better option to lock the bench in place.

@Zandian 7 ай бұрын

Ok, I’ve been looking for an alternative to the Speediance bench on my Speediance. At first I was thinking it would be hard to replace because 1) the Speediance bench fits on the platform and it may not work best having another bench that hangs off the platform. In particular, I was looking at the IronMaster Pro. It looks to have a support bar that runs the length of the bench flush to the ground, so if it hangs off it will hang up on the edge of the Speediance platform. Others might be ok because they might not have that support bar, but I was really hoping the IronMaster might work. 2) I’m concerned that the Speediance bench seat slides towards the center of the bench as you incline the back. I haven’t found alternatives that do that. The concern I have is that by moving towards the center of the bench it seems it also helps align the floor cable more centered, so for those benches that simply incline you’d be sitting further forward (or back, how ever you look at it) from the cables. I was wondering if that would mess up the work out having the cables at a sharper angle. But now watching this video I’m wondering if the main problem making it hard to replace the Speediance bench is actually what might have caused your problem. it seems that as you incline and the seat slides backwards you are taking weight off the front support bar, making it easier for the front to flip up. If the bench did not slide back you’d have more weight in the front and you are maybe less likely to become off-balanced? I guess in the end would you recommend the IronMaster Pro V2 for the Speediance, and what concerns would you have with it? Thanks!

@Zr0din Ай бұрын

Is there a sled version review for the rower? Are you saying that as you were in the upright press position and it was "Throwing you into the wall" that the front legs of the bench were getting lifted off the ground? Having a hard time understanding when you mean. If the front legs lift off the ground did the whole gym get tipped over?

@GamerBody Ай бұрын

Since I am sitting and facing away from the screen, and all of the resistance pulls towards it doing a seated chest press, I was thrown backwards at the screen the bench flew backward with me as my back went into it - caused the legs infront of where I was looking to go up in the air and launch me towards the screen/vertical bars.

@rambojohn7118 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. Has Speediance done any improvements to the second bench that you reviewed ?

@GamerBody 10 ай бұрын

Yes, the 2nd one is better. This review is the updated one where the back rest could support more resistance compared to the original I received.

@johnbanton8223 8 ай бұрын

Just received my Gym Monster with adjustable bench and came across this video warning of the dangers of seated chest press and this bar. Just wondering if you could clarify does the dangerous pull back action happen only at the initial “weight on” moment? As I would assume that once the exercise movement started, it would be slow and controlled and maybe the danger comes from getting into position and then pressing the ring to turn the weight on. Could this be mitigated by turning the weight on while the handles are still against the rack? And then pulling the them out as you get into position, same as you would with a traditional cable machine and weight plates setup? Or does the dangerous event happen no matter what? Just asking as chest press would normally be part of my routine and now I’m not so sure 😮

@dnh452 8 ай бұрын

Heavy weight in upright position made my bench do a wheelie, and I had to drop the handles or else. So I do all pressing with handles attached to the base

@GamerBody 8 ай бұрын

What you are saying is true. You could have the handles against the machine, activate resistance, then attempt to get into position, but you may find you have a really hard time moving the resistance into place, and if that resistance is too high, you may find the bench still leaves the platform. I can't recommend the exercise for safety reasons, but for me, I was able to do the exercise with 50 or less resistance as my body weight overcame the resistance being pulled. It was just when I set it to 80 on the machine when I was thrown backwards.

@tzetv 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this information - I guess there is no needed for seated chest press given that a bench press will achieve the same outcome? Main question is whether the movement of the seat (on the monster) is important to align to the pulley location - and whether a 3rd party FID changes the exercise bc the alignment to pulley is different.

@GamerBody 3 ай бұрын

They did design the seat to move so that the resistance on the base platform is always directly below it. This would be a problem with other benches if you are looking to use those. It is one limitation. I have seen others use their own bench, but they just workout around the issue.

@tzetv 3 ай бұрын

@@GamerBody Many Thanks - I have ordered with the adjustable bench to see how it goes; now to unpack the boxes!

@JamesL84 11 ай бұрын

How is the durability of the gympal over the last couple of months? Do you by chance know if speediance plans on adding more accessories for the gympal?

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

So far so good. I don't know if they are going to add anything else. Personally, it has all I need (except the pull-down which is a part of the Gym Monster).

@corylee1800 4 ай бұрын

How dose it feel tho dose it really feel like it's a cable machine or dose it feel like a bowflex

@GamerBody 4 ай бұрын

More like a cable machine, but harder. Bowflex feels more like resistance bands (from what I remember as it has been years). Speediance devices use electromagnetic resistance so you can't use momentum as you can with a standard weight cable machine.

@CWaldman 11 ай бұрын

I bought my Speediance Gym Monster with their adjustable bench (+$250 over the flat when you buy it with the machine) primarily because I assumed the seat shifts towards the middle to accommodate centering your body over the pullies for exercises like like back supported shoulder press. Do you know of other benches that would work well with Speediance Gym Monster that both fit entirely on the platform and shift your center of mass?

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

I do not know of any others. this bench was designed with the seat moving in mind as you mentioned. I would see how it holds up when you get it and if it works for the exercises you are performing. It is decent overall as long as you don't do chest pressing with it (from my testing).

@kpsher367 9 ай бұрын

Do you recommend it? I am between Tonal and Speediance though Speediance being a bit cheaper and has more accessories I am naturally tilting towards it.

@GamerBody 9 ай бұрын

I have not used the Tonal, but the Speediance is excellent overall. I would NOT buy the adjustable bench though, just get the standard flat bench if you get the Gym Monster. Note, if you get the Gym Pal, you must get the Adjustable Bench as that has the middle section that keeps the platform from coming off the ground.

@dnh452 8 ай бұрын

I do all my pressing and flys hooked to the base of the gum monster. I also got thrown back when upright and will not make that mistake again

@GamerBody 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, freaked me out when it happened. Thankfully the screen, machine, and walls only took very minor damage and I was OK. Did you come out unscathed?

@j0404t 10 ай бұрын

dumb question, but would tying some weights to the bench legs help prevent what you experienced with the bench press?

@GamerBody 10 ай бұрын

Maybe a little, but probably not unless you have a ton of weight lying around. You might have to stack a bunch of weight plates on the front to get it from flying backward (depending on how much you can push in the exercise).

@j0404t 10 ай бұрын

@@GamerBody Thanks for responding! I'm torn between this and the Vitruvian!!

@GamerBody 10 ай бұрын

I had the Vitruvian (first machine style option I bought myself) but returned it once the free trial ran out. You lose so much functionality with a membership, and I am not paying that. otherwise it was a fun device. While it is somewhat old, here is my review of the Vitruvian: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9ahgMl5uczWcps.html

@chukwuemekaonyema2716 10 ай бұрын

Shouldnt you do chess press going down to up? I dont see anyone do bench in a sit up position.

@GamerBody 9 ай бұрын

Not sure I understand. Do you mean the decline bench press? With this bench, you can set it at any angle from 0 to a positive 90 degrees. An incline bench normally has an angle of about 30 degrees.

@dnh452 8 ай бұрын

$300 is outrageous. I wonder if there any other brands that fit on the base. My adjustable bench is too long and it's important to have both legs hold down the platform or the machine can tip backwards with heavy weight.

@GamerBody 8 ай бұрын

Agreed. For what it is, it is overpriced. I just use the regular bench on my Gym Monster right now. Unfortunately the Gym Pal requires that bench.

@dnh452 8 ай бұрын

@@clkb8moto I have not found any that fit both legs on the 35 inch playform. That's important or else benching from the base can tip the machine backwards.

@GamerBody 8 ай бұрын

If you found any good ones let us know! If you use the Gym Pal the bar underneath is required so that would be an issue for those using that product.

@clkb8moto 8 ай бұрын

@@dnh452 Great point. The one I was set on is 40".

@dnh452 8 ай бұрын

@@clkb8moto I plan on making a wooden platform extension. I'll probably post the concept on the speediance community Facebook channel once I get around to it.

@bossfan61 7 ай бұрын

06:56 Did this all happen with the original bench or the newer version bench?

@GamerBody 7 ай бұрын

With that seated chest press, it was the new bench. They are both identical, but the newer one I have can support my upper body with exercises like incline bench and chest-supported rows. The original one I got did not and the backrest crashed back to flat where I almost bit my tongue out...

@user-or8qv7wl7n 11 ай бұрын

When is the gym pal going to be shipped to customers? It’s one delay after another! Is this vaporware???

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

I do not have the answer to that question unfortunately. I got a review one. All I know is that they were aiming to push them out around this time.

@jasontan7920 10 ай бұрын

@@GamerBodyare you promoting speediance? Or you also buy one?

@user-or8qv7wl7n 10 ай бұрын

@@GamerBodycan you inquire with your contact? Months late is unacceptable

@GamerBody 10 ай бұрын

I have seen in the FB group that they had some delays in getting them shipped. I do really like the Speediance, but I have also seen a lot of complaints with support and waiting on shipping. It is unfortunate, but I hope they are able to fix that as the company grows and the product development side gets faster.

@rybaldt 11 ай бұрын

Does this bench fold up so i can store it? Not too sure if i can considering im gonna be using the gym pal

@GamerBody 11 ай бұрын

No, this one does not fold up.

@rybaldt 11 ай бұрын

Man that's a bummer it looks a little bulky but I'll have to find a way to manage

@julianfp1952 2 күн бұрын

That’s one of the biggest annoyances I see with the Gym Monster. Speediance has done such a good job of making the machine itself so compact when it is folded flat against a wall so it’s such a shame that they couldn’t come up with a decent design for a foldable bench because that takes up a fair amount of room on its own. Grrrrrrr.