The Astral Sea (but GOOD) & some practical, REAL options for my gnome/unicorn fey centaur... YES.

Considering that PAM requires using a heavy weapon (so no shield) and requires a feat investment, I think smites still work fine as a bonus action, and I can take Inspiring Leader, War Caster, Mounted Combatant, Heavy Armor Master, etc. depending on the stat I want to boost.

@@Sanglant4342 No, he didn't mean that. You should learn to not build strawmans.

@@Sanglant4342 Noone is going to discuss anything with you with that attitude.

Im not gonna miss Wrathful smite because we’re sticking to 5e… they’ve literally done the opposite of what we wanted. Why are casters getting buffed wile marital and half casters are getting nerfed? It’s ridiculous…

Yeah, but the water vaporizes in 1 minute, doesn't matter if you drink it. That's not a good use at all brother. You can, at max, wash yourself as it dries naturally and really quick, during rests.

@@blueveil3277 I would argue that it can still be used to quench thirst; you just have to drink it promptly.

@@blueveil3277 I would think that if the water is used for something it will have a hard time vaporizing, however turning yourself in a gas grenade would be a funny way to die I guess.

@@blueveil3277 It vaporises? Now let's make some ampule granades.

@@The_Yukki that we can work with. Drinking, is a no no. Making grenades? That's a big yes.

It's a meme answer, but I guess this is vengeance for being bullied by jocks when they were younger.

Paladin is literally the strongest class after wizard, and they are STILL buffed in this UA

@@snoochieboochies2011 Paladin is made irrelevant by any 9th level caster that can take a 2 level dip for smite and then use their higher level spell slots to not only do more powerful smites, but use them more often. Bard is the nastiest culprit for this, because they can get extra attack as well depending on the subclass. A hexblade 1, bard 6, pal 2 pretty much breaks the game lol.

@@greyelf1537 that's a good point, I never considered a valor bard with divine smite.

@@greyelf1537 This is why multiclassing is optional. I only allow it for good reasons and that doesn't include optimizing.

Since explicitly requires a weapon to still use its melee stat (ex: Handaxe uses STR both on hand or hurling through the air); it makes sense that it creates a "conduit" on a hit between both creatures to channel divine power. -> This is how real lighting works. An arrow is simply TOO FAST & lacks enough mass (POUNDS) to alter the air/fluid/aether in a consistent way for long enough (half a second) to activate the bonus action.

And the barbarian multiclass as raging while smiting was so cool

Can't have a (kind of) martial class be competitive compared to full spellcasters, thus they obviously need to be nerfed to the ground.

And you are surprised? It was obvious with the trend we have been seeing that martials we continuously be nerfed as how dare you even consider playing them over a full caster

WotC: "We should make Sorcs and Wizards feel more unique. Let's buff MM and give Wizards the ability to alter and create spells." Also WotC: "We're changing fighting styles again so that 2 out of the 3 classes they were supposed to be exclusively for can't take them. Also, that other martial exclusive thing is being given freely to two half casters and a full caster subclass. Enjoy, you filthy martial peasants."

Wasn't the whole point of One D&D was to lessen the powergap between caster & martial? As well as 'update' 5E?

@christopherjenerette5214 lmao nah it was a cash grab as they aren't making much money and if they can retail books with only slight changes but nerfing martials and buffing casters will really bring in the dough again as we have seen their latest books are just not that good with content in them

@@Zodiac_Lord If it was the case, being that they're trying to lessen the gap between martials and casters, they did a very mediocre job so far. By that, I mean: - they gave some buffs to some martials like Fighter, Rogue, and Barbarian. Some of it is enough, but there are still issues at higher level play (like Barbarian not having much incentive to stay past level 7/8 in terms of class features.). - they gutted Monk for some reason. "StUnNiNg StIkE iS tOo StRoNg." They then had the audacity to buff wizard, sorcerer, and bard to absurd levels by comparison. - Wizards can buff their own spells to obscene levels so long as they have the cash; something that's plentiful in higher level play. By comparison, Barbs get a scaling damage modifier that only happens on a 5% chance roll of the dice (meaning that it's entirely possible to not roll a single critical strike an entire combat; even two. I know, I've been there.). - Sorcs get Improved Wish as their capstone. In comparison, Ranger gets small buffs to HM (meaning if they don't use HM because they'd rather concentrate on a better spell, they effectively have no capstone.). - Bards get access to two full spell lists for extreme utility around level 10. Meanwhile, monks had Stunning Strike reduced to once a turn with their only real buff being the level 7 feature for a 1 minute short rest once a day. They even made a Bard subclass that's just a Charisma based monk that can perform just as good, if not better because they have spells.

Yep because it was obvious that martials needed to be nerfed again and again as them even being considered to be played over a full casters is already too much

not up to date on everything in the UA but paladins and rangers get a fighting style in 5e so i think its just monks barbs and rogues that get dicked on fighting style change.

@@tomtom7955 I've always found it crap that paladins and rangers have it, but the monks, barbs and rogues doesnt have a fighting style, like man, you give to that clases, magic and fightings styles, but the clases without magic dont. But now, not only they dont have fighting style, now they cant get a fighting style, is not only estupid in terms of balancing, also is stupid in terms of flavor and roleplay that classes that only depend on damage and physical power, do not have something as simple as a fighting style in the base class

@BK-hu4qf it is also funny as they also got weapon masteries too what should be martials exclusive Eben though they aren't that much but come on

​@@BK-hu4qfthats why as a dm i allow all martial to get one fight style at lv1 and allow ANY of the fighter styles for each one of them, not just the ones granted on the class, i mean, Aragorn is the reason Ranger exist, what weapon he use? Longsword, a twohanded versatile weapon. Can the ranger get the twohanded weapons style? No. Thats BS. Makes no sense. It should more based on the weapon proficiencies rather than the class itself, if you get access to thrown weapon proficiencies like daggers, then you can get the thrown style. Simple.

I don’t think this is click bate. All the things shown in the thumbnail appear in the video.

​@@ronald1416but OP is correct

@@seekingfurtherlight34 true true

But they're not table friendly.

@@ronald1416 but a true statement nevertheless

I'm thinking you can attack creatures behind full cover.

@@Plamkton It is a CURSE (like Hex), that requires you knowing the location of a creature that is not [Hiding]. The [Invisible] subcomponent of hiding does not apply if you can hear them moving or using object interactions in a quiet enviroment (everyone is hiding, or not yet casted verbal components or making melee attacks on this round).

Or like eldritch invocations

I've been thinking the same for awhile now. A No-Action resource that requires a hit with a melee weapon. I'd be willing to take a dmg die hit and keeping it once per turn if it means the calming the worry about smite crit damage.

I mean, that's literally how divine smite works in 5e

@@MysticColorsAttack This would apply to ALL the smite spells, no bonus action casting and/or concentration. And smite currently isn't limited in amount per turn.

true, it's literally control fire, shape water, gust and mold earth fused together

@@justcri Yeah, it’s great. And the water one could be over powered in a survival situation

@@EpicRandomness555 Not really. At best you can have 10 cups of water getting hot & disolving something (like herbal tea with salt), that becomes 8 cups after placing it on 4 containers, each in the hands of the party members (luckily reaching the esophagus before it vanishes, rather than leaving hot solids at the mouth/throat). This is still better than drinking your own pee (safe, bust disgusting), that could be purified with Elementalism once you fill at least 1 cubic foot (for eficiency, since it is a tedious process), about 80 pounds of liquid & some ounces of urea. Dehydration is way more serious in standard D&D than food. -> Non-extreme enviroments have enough humidity that can be extracted from the air with Elementalism (sand+breeze+mix). But it is a lot of work (most of the day, for just 1 person), compared with Create Water.

@@adolfodef It’s… still water. I guess you couldn’t keep a party alive, just yourself but water is water.

@@EpicRandomness555 It evaporates after 10 rounds, then it vanishes on round 11 (from all water the air into nothing in 6 seconds). -> You have to be inside the 5x5x5 foot cube to drink it, it can not leave it and persist. It STILL evaporates & vanish inside your body (every drop, mixing it with REAL water/fluids does not change its intrinsically temporary magical ethereal origin).

@@Sanglant4342they nerfed all the Martians, meanwhile buffing casters into the stratosphere? Like where is your “reigning in” for casters?

@@Sanglant4342 The game is not all about damage. Hypnotic pattern hitting 3 enemies gets you ahead in action economy unlile anything a martial can do. Fly lets you autowin some fights. Summoning things is another swing in the action economy. Also caster are usually a lot more tanky than martials. And a fireball hitting enough enemies is also a lot more damage than a martial could do. Like, do you watch this channel and listen to the points made here?

Yes, and I know it is still pretty niche but that would also still allow them to do so while in rage as it just works so thematically foe someone to smite someone down while they are raging at them

That's a great way to make the two classes feel really samey. Having a class-specific way to burn spell slots is fun. I'm not sure about this bonus-action-between-hit-and-damage thing, but making it use spell slots is really important imo, both for balance and feel.

@@CJWproductions oh yeah, I want to keep it a spell slot thing, sorry I didn't say that clearly enough. And while the mechanic would be the same, the effects would be different and not sneaky and cunning but divine power hitting an enemy. So basically, same Divine Smite feature as in PHB14, but with the bonus action rule, damage improvement by 1d8 and the option of trading d8s for extra effects.

Bro, I didn't know I needed to read your comment. You are a genius. I was thinking almost the opposite. Make smite spells have increased die size when cast by a paladin, most of them are d6s and would turn into d8s but I guess would still deal less damage than divine smite. But now that I have your perspective I think should be a spell slot level requirement too otherwise you could shining and banishing smite with lower level slots if the cost is low enough or it would cost so much that it would deal no extra damage.

its never been broken, so god knows.

I cant believe they killed the exciting aspect of hunters mark (it enhancing all your attacks), didnt remove concentration AND built the spell into the class as a core feature, including requiring the spell to by up in order to use your capstone.. That is baffling.

It's just like hex, in that when used as intended, it was a bit of a dps boost and could be used to maintain a good dpr through an adventuring day while using your slots on more explosive effects. Now it's just bad

It was broken when multiclassing. Every class that is not too MAD could take one level in ranger and have concentration free hunter's mark. It could affect 1% of the player base but it's bad game design. But the real problem is that the guys can't see that the solution is simply splitting the feature into 2: you learn hunter's mark at 1st or 2nd level and have the concentration aspect be a higher level feature, somewhere from 5th to 14th, I don't know where exactly, probably 6th level or after

@@erickignacioferreira8143 or just remove the free castings 10d6 spread over 10 rounds is probably to much for a level one slot but if the damage only applies on weapon attacks it won't be too broken additionally you could add hunters mark at lvl 2 then the dip isn't really worth it.

All they had to do was buff martials to make them on par with casters

It is really good for social and exploration. Pack tactics is more combat focused so he isn't going to give credit to something useful outside of combat.

​@@XanderHarris1023Right. Cool channel, but unless it impacts DPR, he probably will undervalue it.

He didn't miss it. He said, "Now it is quite similar to a no friendly fire fireball...." He only didn't mention that this was a change.

@@kclubok conjure volley, not barrage. they skipped it in the changelog too

@@kclubok 2:17

They kind of gimped it by giving it the force damage and spectral weapons description, which hinders possible combos like lightning arrow. The upside, yes better damage and melee & ranged. All in all went from 7 to a 4.2/10

@@cufsedfox98 Regarding the force damage: A consistent theme throughout all the UAs has been that they have replaced "this damage is considered magical" with things like force or elemental damage. A fairly safe prediction is that when they get around to the monsters, there will no longer be any such thing as immunity or resistance to non-magical damage, but rather to all slashing, piercing, and bludgeoning damage, and these damage type changes are in preparation for that. Also, Conjure Volley never synergized with Lightning Arrow, since the latter is triggered by a ranged attack roll.

Tbh. Any spell nurf is good for me.we need more spell nurfs

​@@yuvalgabay1023No, spells need more buffs. We need to enlarge the martial-caster divide.

@@matmajthm3222 time to take the martials caster divide wider then every one moms here .its even will make 3e blush

​@@matmajthm3222 I'm joining the martial-caster war. On the side of casters!

Yup, high bait

That's my bad. I messed up.

2 dice creates a bell curve, which is going to push the average up. a single die is just going to be the average of the results, which is going to be a flat percentage.

​@@PackTacticsyou know what is also sad about the smite change is now you can't even smite while raging, that wasn't even the most optimal multiclass but just a badass one as thematically it would make sense to smite someone down while you are raging at them

that would be cool.

I like the bonus action economy. The game is about choices, so making the decision to use the bonus action or not actually adds to the fun (in my opinion).

@@MrJerks93 For the other smite spells, its worth it, but for just divine smite, at a level 1 spell slot, it isn't. I was playing a paladin last night and was using smite to try and an enemies concentration, didnt even budge them. There are other things a paladin can do with their bonus action.

@@MrJerks93 That's fair. I actually agree with both your point and the guy below you's point... And my own point, obviously. There's another idea that's even crazier but let me know what you think: When you hit with divine smite, your health pool from lay on hands will refill by an amount equal to a portion of the radiant damage you dealt (we'll say half the amount of damage for now). If the amount you refill it by would make it go over the maximum, then the excess can be absorbed by you as temporary hit points.

@@joshuawoodfolk8202 That's so crazy it might just work. I do like the feel of it and it reinforces the holy warrior troupe of the class. It isnvulnerable to the bag of rats exploit though so it probably needs some type of level cap related to the Paladin levels or maybe a stance you can take 1/day for a few minutes to top yourself off.

Because look at how they been nerfing them any chance they get unnecessary whole buffing full casters to the moon

I mean... at least paladin and ranger get Weapon Masteries. Another supposedly "Warrior class only" feature that is being freely handed out to anyone that wants it apparently. But barbs and monks now aren't allowed to take a FS feat unless they multi class for some reason...

Well, who is telling you they do not also have casters? It's not like they are giving wish for free to every caster, right? RIIIIIGHT?

And in that case you'll get 100% counterspelled

It also just feels incredibly bland. A big appeal of the divine smite feature is that it behaves in a unique way. Now they have reduced it to just another spell which has a significant action economy cost. Had divine smite launched in this state I doubt it wouldve been such a beloved feature.

And while niche, it also just killed off the barbarian multiclass with it because now they can't rage and smite at the same time Was it the most optimal multiclass, no, but was it fun and thematic, yes

@@Xorrin holy fuck that will be terrible....

Well congrats wizards is gonna see this say cool player freedom then nuke it to the ground. Sorry I'm salty they did Palidin so dirty.

@@jacobgoron482 Is best to take this cantrip alongside Shape Water & Create Water ( via lvl 1 feat "Magic Initiate : Primal" for the 1 free casting ). -> Not only to fill slowly the bathtub, but also to freeze solid the water on any crack/imperfection (ensures self_impermeabilization). Then (ideally): . Mending (permanent repairs/corrections), frees the one spellcaster with shape water of having to wake up once every 55 minutes. . Prestidigitation: It can instantly plug a crack (while another casts mending), both have to work dor 1 minute. (also): It warms the real water & cancel/improves the smell of the beckon fire smoke bubling through it (when mixing the elements). . Create Bonfire: Quickly heating the real water to sauna levels (instead of taking hours with beckon fire & Prestid). (optional): Mold Earth: Saves hours of making the 1/2 foot thick "base" (floor), as the compacted surface only needs the fire treatment. -> It does require "Mother, may I...?" allowance from the DM for a source of "lose dirt" & "sand" big & near enough.

There is ONE "creature" you can always "see" (even in advanced darkness): Just blink & the "you" creature will be "on your sight" (meta-literally). -> It technically does not work if you have the blinded condition (or the more permanent "eyes removed" trait). Your Body is your Temple. Also, is the Quarry you work on to extract nuggets of wisdom. Discipline.

Or using a bonus action to switch the target of Hunter's Mark, but I just hate that spell in general...

The only problem with this is that dnd has a bounded accuracy where you typically only have a 60% chance to hit whatever you are aiming at, 35% if you use gwm or sharpshooter. You aren't going to get very good combo streaks

Pinned comment, he did an whoopsie.

Don't you know? Barbarians aren't "skilled" enough with weapons and different ways to use them, so it "doesn't make sense" for them to get FSs. Just ignore that they get weapon masteries, something that is more complex and is described as running drills and practicing with the weapons in order to gain the mastery functions. Ffs, other games like Diablo 4 show that barbarians can be just as skilled with weapons as a fighter, just in a different way.

But the funny thing is the rangers capstone feature literally requires them to have hunter's mark up and concentrating on it to do anything

@@mohammadmurie I'm sure people still still run Hunter's Mark alot during fights. But I appreciate a bit of just nudging players away from one all situation strategy. Even with it weaker, I don't have an issue with centering Hunter's Mark as a core part of the Ranger. Even if it's not an amazing capstone that should be rewritten. I'd be cool with a subclass that added stuff to your Hunter's Mark as a main feature. But also happy if some Rangers will almost never use hunters mark.

@@hallopino You can nudge towards alternative options by improving the class overall such that you don't need to gun for the optimal options to keep pace with a wizard who can take the good shit like Shield with room to spare for fun other options. They don't need to be mutually exclusive abilities, let me Divine Smite and use the different other smites at the same time

Survey opens on 20th. Spears ready friend

Hunter's Mark and Hex both got the same changes. Treantmonk did an interesting analysis showing that the debuff isn't as bad as it first seems - if you upcast it for the higher damage. This is because you get the full damage boost from it even if you only hit with one of your attacks.

@kclubok thank you. I saw that video but didn't quite understand why he was so happy until you said it like that. I still don't like the issue as half casters you have to spend the higher spell slot. I mean, how many do you get as a HALF caster? Then it scaled with the number of successful attacks, it still only cost you a 1st lvl spell slot.

@@Zr0din Even as a half caster, the upcast spell slot isn't an issue, since you can keep it going all day for one upcast slot. The real problem is that it takes your concentration, and you likely have better things to do with your concentration.

The damage only affects the attack, you use it when you hit with an attack. The effect lasts one minute.

I'm going to run a little campaign with those exhaustion rules, but slightly tweaked. Every level drops speed by 5 feet (so it drops to 0 around the same time normal 5e exhaustion would) and every second level, AC drops by one (dodging and blocking becoming harder the more exhausted a character becomes). There's also a Dying condition that lets players do things at 0hp at the cost of getting exhaustion, so I might tweak the exhaustion recovery as well

And also buffing the living heck out of full casters, especially wizards because they obviously needed the buff didn't they

@mohammadmurie Oh they absolutely did. Now they can 1-shot a whole adventuring party at mid-levels instead of just late game XD

@kaiyamazaki1684 lmao yeah while also having a concentration spell up without needing concentration to then concentrate on another spell But remember this was too op for a ranger to do

Because they still want a punch-guy, and likely so does most of 5e players but they wanna move away from "asian" cause twitter ballerinas get their panties twisted. So for some reason instead of moving away from it completely and going for a more "brawler" focused pugilist who can take a hit and still stand, they kept the "I'm gonna be dodging and do kung-fu shit, but it's called differently so it's 100% not kung-fu"

I was excited when they originally announced they were moving away from the explicitly Asian-themed old version of monk because I thought they were moving towards a brawler martial artist. Then we saw they just renamed everything that was there and did no meaningful changes to the worst class in the game

Bruh before you could actually smite and as a bonus action do another smite.... Essentialy attacking with 2 smites at the same time... Now there are even less options and I doubt everyone love having less options

@@Joey-666 that never felt intended tho, even if it was technically RAW

But it's still needlessly worse which is what's being complained about?

Due to the bonus action cost it new creates an awkward situation where you have to save your bonus action untill after your attacks, just in case you need it for smite. I could see the reasoning behind having divine smite be once per turn, but the bonus action seems like overkill

I thought in One D&D crits only apply to weapon damage. Or did they change that back?

@@1Bearsfan thats why, smites are added to the weapon damage. JC already confirmed that smites get doubled ok crits (watch the druid/paladin review).

"We could to that, but we think our players are crayon eaters who get overwhelmed when presented with 4 spells I stead of 1" -Crawford, probably

I'll hopefully make more Worlds without number in the future.

​@@PackTacticsyou should read low fantasy gaming i think you will love some of mechanics there like thr exploit system

That's my bad. Ignore it. Sorry.

Wow, nothing would make me not want to play paladin like the enemy counter-spelling my regular smite when I crit

​@@tehGCINAalso a silence spell counters divine smite. Since it has a vocal component.