Spider-Man 2: Why You Don't Fully Judge A Game Before It Comes Out

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Colin.

Colin.

Күн бұрын

A response to some bad Spider-Man 2 takes, put out before the game came out. From The Amazing Lucas, Boywithcrazyhair, and Dillon With the Details. As well as these people in this video, mimicking similar bad faith and disingenuous discourse around the game. BEFORE IT EVEN CAME OUT
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Spider-Man 2, Response, Debunk

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@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is just me but I noticed this video is really laggy at points, after I posted it. I hope it's fine for you it looks fine from my files when I watched it back on my PC. But I did have to export this video like 6 times so idk just lmk under this comment
@taustinhardin2279
@taustinhardin2279 8 ай бұрын
It’s working fine for me man
@grittynejii
@grittynejii 8 ай бұрын
it’s good for me
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
It is fine on my end, man
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
Looked fine to me
@meatmuncher23
@meatmuncher23 8 ай бұрын
tbh the only bad thing i can say is they basicly killed 3 villains off camera
@miggs_got_lost6486
@miggs_got_lost6486 8 ай бұрын
dude how on earth do you even call the first two games "lifeless". there was so much personality and care put into the world in every minute detail. that 3rd guy made me actually super mad. how do you put up with even watching their content colin?
@captainfrankwoods3300
@captainfrankwoods3300 8 ай бұрын
That 3rd dude pissed me off too I knew he would when I saw that damn hat that nobody has worn since 1982
@LoksTheGamer
@LoksTheGamer 8 ай бұрын
​@@captainfrankwoods3300I'm honestly used to things like the third guy has said that it's just white noise to me, but it's still baffling to hear. He's not the only KZfaqr who do that kind of thing unfortunately
@marquionyt
@marquionyt 8 ай бұрын
They all do it for comments and attention knowing they like Spider-Man they convince themselves to play a character that’s hates him to get views and people mad commenting
@spider-man5544
@spider-man5544 8 ай бұрын
Obviously people go political to sound like they're making a case where in reality they just spouting bs that doesn't even ruin this game in particular. Just minor nitpicks that is benign
@thegreatacolyt1277
@thegreatacolyt1277 8 ай бұрын
​@@captainfrankwoods3300what?
@Ruush_
@Ruush_ 8 ай бұрын
I hate how it's now become difficult for people to actually wait to judge a product before the full product is actually been released and fully polished. Just go play the game if you haven't already, my personal goty and a real masterpiece.
@KuroUltJanembaGod
@KuroUltJanembaGod 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, now all of these "critics" and people who make this type of content reviewing somethings that hasn't even released yet as if all they say its absolutely the truth in general like they can see the future, these guys shouldn't really have any right to make an opinion with how braindead they are
@retr0836
@retr0836 8 ай бұрын
No game is a masterpiece.
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
I also hate that people do this as well, it is so stupid!
@jajo3203
@jajo3203 8 ай бұрын
​@@retr0836 🤦 People have different definitions of masterpiece
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
@@jajo3203agreed
@ReyCardo
@ReyCardo 8 ай бұрын
The discourse behind this game (besides the bug related ones) make me realize how much different Arkham city would have been received if it had come out in the current age of gamers. It’s a depressing realization
@ReyCardo
@ReyCardo 8 ай бұрын
Like I hate how every sequel has to reinvent its wheel for it to be good in the eyes of people. If it was good the first time and people liked it. Why change it completely instead of just improving or adding onto it?
@t.j.1584
@t.j.1584 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. When it comes to sequel games, I’d argue Marvel’s Spider-man 2 added a lot more when it comes to combat and traversal than Arkham city. Both are still masterful sequels tho. Arkham City would get crucified if it came out in this day and age. Not every sequel needs to reinvent the wheel in order for it to be considered “good”.
@spider-man5544
@spider-man5544 8 ай бұрын
@@ReyCardo even if it reinvent the wheel in this point of time it will be simply criticized for the sole reason of woke excuses and people who just hate woke will eat that shit even tho it either doesn't even play any part of the story and is very tiny compared to the whole game's features or the story is scorsese level masterpiece
@lucky4d725
@lucky4d725 8 ай бұрын
@@spider-man5544 it's kinda funny how the use of the term woke has changed in the last years lol. Now if you hear people use it unironically it just gives away why to not take them seriously.
@SquallyCoin5664
@SquallyCoin5664 8 ай бұрын
People when a sequel is more of the same game with tweaks and changes to make the experience better instead of an entirely different game: 😧
@J1210mk2
@J1210mk2 8 ай бұрын
This aged well. 💀 Edit: I mean the people nitpicking the trailers.
@Indisputed
@Indisputed 8 ай бұрын
nothing wrong with the game lil bro, its already 3x better than the first
@J1210mk2
@J1210mk2 8 ай бұрын
@@Indisputed I meant what Lucas and the other KZfaqrs said.
@Indisputed
@Indisputed 8 ай бұрын
@@J1210mk2 ah ok
@skylord1846
@skylord1846 8 ай бұрын
Glad you made a video on this. You can’t make a review on something unless you’ve actually seen it. Just play a game and take some time off of it to formulate your own opinion. That’s when you criticize something for the flaws it could have. I just think it’s stupid that so many people have been trashing on this game before it came out.
@mikeythompson
@mikeythompson 8 ай бұрын
That's the internet for ya
@XX_14days
@XX_14days 8 ай бұрын
I love it when ppl are so quick to judge when they aren't even involved in the project or know what's happening behind the scenes to then get proven wrong
@spoodermanreal
@spoodermanreal 8 ай бұрын
Xbox fanboys. What can you expect from them?
@xavierpierre
@xavierpierre 8 ай бұрын
​@@spoodermanrealI play Xbox but I love the way the game look and play's out I wish could play it
@seige8621
@seige8621 7 ай бұрын
​@@spoodermanrealgame critic - Xbox fanboy. Life isn't black and white clown 🤡. You don't necessarily have to be an Xbox fanboy to criticize a playstation game. Before you bitch about me being one, I've owned all playstation console
@marquionyt
@marquionyt 8 ай бұрын
I’m so happy with the new swinging I don’t even have the game yet but I watch 0 swing assist videos everyday they’re so fun. This guy really thought he knew it all 😂😂 thanks for making him look stupid
@lm_slayer1
@lm_slayer1 8 ай бұрын
Trust me, it is waaaaay more fun than it looks, and it already looks like a blast
@The-No-one
@The-No-one 8 ай бұрын
I have the game and trust me it's so fun
@AllWeNeededWas
@AllWeNeededWas 8 ай бұрын
it is indeed. PEAK.
@marquionyt
@marquionyt 8 ай бұрын
@@lm_slayer1 I believe you
@marquionyt
@marquionyt 8 ай бұрын
@@The-No-one let’s goooo I’m so hyped
@slowandsafegaming4126
@slowandsafegaming4126 8 ай бұрын
Just raw gameplay footage for a rebuttal, I love it. Great work Colin.
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 8 ай бұрын
actions speak louder than words and silence is what drives one to insanity than a deafening fighter jet engine
@NMbones98
@NMbones98 8 ай бұрын
The game was definitely great there were massive improvements and the story was definitely 🔥. That being said some of those MJ sequences could have been shorter and some side missions were hit and miss. They also still need to patch some stuff in the game like a few glitches as well as matching the tendrils with the right suit. We also need more skins for Peter overall 9/10 for me.
@Savagekingx30
@Savagekingx30 8 ай бұрын
The mj missions couldn't have been longer than 5mins each. They weren't really long at all
@NMbones98
@NMbones98 8 ай бұрын
@@Savagekingx30 if you were looking around for clues to add towards the story it would take a bit longer I wanted to know more but not play as MJ
@Savagekingx30
@Savagekingx30 8 ай бұрын
@@NMbones98 touchè
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
Don't agree with the MJ sections, there's only 3 of them. And they are all great, the 2nd MJ mission is also mixed with Miles' gameplay and it's one of the best missions in the game
@NMbones98
@NMbones98 8 ай бұрын
@@C0LIN. I have to agree with you that the MJ missions are definitely valid this time around. Me personally I'd just prefer if I didn't have to play them I would rather have done a stealth segment with cat in the sanctum but, I do agree the last MJ mission with miles is objectively the best out of the 3 for sure running from Peter was pretty cool too.
@astrangestranger386
@astrangestranger386 8 ай бұрын
absolute love the fact you didn't need a single statement lol, didn't say a word yet countered some asinine takes. always loved your vids, but this is great.
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 8 ай бұрын
silence is more unbearable than a deafening fighter jet
@keelanbarron928
@keelanbarron928 8 ай бұрын
Not really but okay.
@shrekchicken506
@shrekchicken506 8 ай бұрын
​@@keelanbarron928elaborate?
@abuabdullah9878
@abuabdullah9878 7 ай бұрын
@@shrekchicken506 there’s still that “magnetic buffer” between you and the ground, even with swing assist straight up turned all the way down. Spider-Man’s momentum will visibly change before his web is taut. This video is disingenuous.
@shrekchicken506
@shrekchicken506 7 ай бұрын
@@abuabdullah9878 yeah The dude in the video acted like it's the exact same as the first 2 games, When In actuality it is still there but it's noticably way better than in the first 2, And they even created new animations to cover it up or make it fit better with the game.
@isabaig6665
@isabaig6665 8 ай бұрын
Have faith in this committed studio. Few are at this level.
@JustanotherNPC8454
@JustanotherNPC8454 8 ай бұрын
@isabaig6665 you're spitting FACTS
@ScorbunGame
@ScorbunGame 8 ай бұрын
Insommac already proved that they not only love Spider-Man but the Marvel universe as a whole with the first game and Miles Moralis, there's was no reason to doubt that they would be able to make Spider-Man 2 a experience that's just as great as the first game.
@dwecktek
@dwecktek 7 ай бұрын
Yea if they could just take the lane woke crap outta it they would be perfect
@clarity-argent2913
@clarity-argent2913 7 ай бұрын
​@@dwecktekthere wasnt a single woke thing thag had a majior part in the plot
@7orotv3
@7orotv3 8 ай бұрын
If you listen hard enough. You hear the misery in some of these “takes” LMAO. Bro hating ass mfs really just got nothing better to do. I’m glad this game exists for us spidey fans. God Speed y’all 🙏🏽
@callmepsycho3132
@callmepsycho3132 8 ай бұрын
That one lucas guy is not even a hater. I don’t like his content personally but he used to meat ride Sony extra hard, but in his Spider-Man 2 review he was mostly positive tbh.
@princssnasty
@princssnasty 8 ай бұрын
great vid dunking on these clowns 🔥 only wish you’d shown off just how HUGE of a game changer the corner tether can be, using that multiple times in quick succession at high speeds (esp coming directly out of the wingsuit) to suddenly whip yourself thru a narrow opening to the side (like into the alleyways that break up blocks of buildings), immediately making a few zig zagging 90 degree turns and blasting back out into more open space without losing any of your original speed and momentum is just mind blowingly above and beyond anything you could do with the web traversal of the previous games.
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
I did in a couple of the clips
@princssnasty
@princssnasty 8 ай бұрын
@@C0LIN. yeah i saw it just wasn’t showing off how insane that mechanic can be
@Y-E-R-I
@Y-E-R-I 8 ай бұрын
and if you use them in a pole you can actually do a horizontal loop!! it's so awesome
@MouseWhisperer11
@MouseWhisperer11 8 ай бұрын
You're really good at web-swinging! I didn't even know using the symbiote in traversal was a thing lol
@Savagekingx30
@Savagekingx30 8 ай бұрын
I don't think you necessarily use the symbiote as traversal. I think it just pops up if you have a symbiote suit. If you're wearing a non symbiote suit, it uses the spider arms to boost in the air
@calebsolonas6085
@calebsolonas6085 8 ай бұрын
​@@Savagekingx30always thought that was a sick detail
@Savagekingx30
@Savagekingx30 8 ай бұрын
@@calebsolonas6085 very!
@UnknownStealth2
@UnknownStealth2 8 ай бұрын
The definition of proving people wrong
@Yokaigamerz
@Yokaigamerz 8 ай бұрын
Not gunna lie I do think the game is the same but bigger but I belive dlc will upgrade the map and add more crimes and updates like new game plus n stuff. Had a very good time getting platinum tho thanks for reading and listening to my opinion ❤️🕷️🕸️
@Grayson-tk5hn
@Grayson-tk5hn 8 ай бұрын
@@Yokaigamerzhow tho
@keelanbarron928
@keelanbarron928 8 ай бұрын
Not really. It's mostly just the guy showing off in unrelated clips. (Maybe they wouldn't be unrelated if he actually spoke and made an actual point.)
@joshbrewett7365
@joshbrewett7365 8 ай бұрын
@@keelanbarron928 were you watching the clips with your eyes closed or something
@PlayerFoe701
@PlayerFoe701 8 ай бұрын
@@keelanbarron928 Watch the fucking video again
@PS5GamingHub1986
@PS5GamingHub1986 8 ай бұрын
The guy who said we wouldn’t be able to switch between Miles and Peter at anytime must feel like a 🤡 Honestly a lot of the takes are awful. Apparently Spider-Man 2 sucks because it doesn’t take 500 hours to complete and it didn’t remove the core foundation of the previous games in order for “innovation”. I saw in another post someone saying if Arkham City was released today it would get a lot of similar takes and I agree. I don’t know what’s happened since 2011, but it’s horrible lol.
@nate.infinity
@nate.infinity 8 ай бұрын
People like that probably existed back then. Unfortunately it is easier now than ever for bad takes to become popular.
@GrampaJoe
@GrampaJoe 8 ай бұрын
Idk y this game has been compared so much with the Arkham series
@megablueflash1816
@megablueflash1816 8 ай бұрын
​@@GrampaJoeThe combat, stealth sections, detective scanning just to name a few. Both Spider-Man and Arkham games are still great, but Insomniac definitely took some inspiration.
@callmepsycho3132
@callmepsycho3132 8 ай бұрын
@@GrampaJoeInsomniac clearly took inspiration, so people often compare the two. Then go back to coping
@GrampaJoe
@GrampaJoe 8 ай бұрын
@@callmepsycho3132 i don’t see it other than loosely being based on free flow combat, Web of Shadows more than anything is the measuring stick for this game imo
@Ghosted143
@Ghosted143 8 ай бұрын
i had a hard time focusing on what the video was about because i was more mesmerized by Colins swift and badass swinging like my god!
@futureelement924
@futureelement924 8 ай бұрын
Same i wish i could do that😂
@Ghosted143
@Ghosted143 8 ай бұрын
@@futureelement924 IKR like holy crap
@ghostwalkergames7707
@ghostwalkergames7707 8 ай бұрын
From playing all these games and a lot of other games, Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 feels very fast. As someone who has played a lot of Web of Shadows recently, the momentum reminds me a lot of that game. Being able to swing shot yourself through the city at break neck speeds. Plus the classic black suit is peak!
@Young_Wrath
@Young_Wrath 8 ай бұрын
Its so funny because in the amazing lucas live stream he was getting upset because he kept hitting the ground while swinging 😂
@Devilspade
@Devilspade 8 ай бұрын
Which one is Lucas?
@futureelement924
@futureelement924 8 ай бұрын
​@@Devilspadethe black one
@kenethernandez6246
@kenethernandez6246 8 ай бұрын
And he's the mf talking so much about physic based web swinging and innovation etc etc just to get what he wanted and then fail miserably lmfao.
@vulcanrampage4015
@vulcanrampage4015 8 ай бұрын
That's because he's literally sucks playing that game. Not because he didn't get what he wants. Cry me a river 😒
@TEMPOOL
@TEMPOOL 8 ай бұрын
I remember in a stream bro was whining about how the miles morales game and the gameplay footages of spiderman 2 didn’t have fall damage or not being able to touch the ground He got what he wanted and yet he was upset???
@LatterDayPup
@LatterDayPup 8 ай бұрын
I’m convinced these people wanted the game to fail.
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
This happens all the time with video games, unfortunately
@josephbradley4002
@josephbradley4002 8 ай бұрын
Thoes Xbots did though
@idk2167
@idk2167 8 ай бұрын
​@@josephbradley4002 im an xbox player and i can tell you this is amazing. Its not "xbots" that want the game to fail, its just idiots and haters who have nothing else to do in their life except hate.
@danieljuries9473
@danieljuries9473 3 ай бұрын
I think they did honestly. It's because they go into the game looking for problems. You really shouldn't be doing that with anything.
@mikeythompson
@mikeythompson 8 ай бұрын
Let's be honest colin this ain't the first time
@FrostDragon1073
@FrostDragon1073 7 ай бұрын
I really hate it when people judge a game, show, or any other product before they even come out..like give it a chance damn💀
@iamgodson87
@iamgodson87 8 ай бұрын
I really just don't understand the slander Spider-Man2 gets. Is it a perfect game... NO... There is no perfect game out there. But did this game implement new game features and gameplay from the precious game... Yes it did. And is this game one of the best games of the year... YES!
@wifi961
@wifi961 8 ай бұрын
Nothing Lucas said was wrong though. Sony fanboys getting mad when they're "masterpiece" is criticized.
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
R-tard?
@ShadowStorm78
@ShadowStorm78 8 ай бұрын
Calling it now the amazing lucus aka the amazing whiner is gonna complain how he tried web swinging but the ground kept stopping his flow of momentum and how it's trash
@giantmonkey28
@giantmonkey28 8 ай бұрын
I tried to swing but then there was a building in front of me, which I think is horrendous game design
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
"I tried to swing but Spider-Man went forward. Everyone at Insomniac deserves to die"
@giantmonkey28
@giantmonkey28 8 ай бұрын
@@Natezilla_2 i attempted to glide but gravity really interfered which I found quite insufferable, it leaves me no choice but to rate the game 1/10
@t.j.1584
@t.j.1584 8 ай бұрын
Apparently he got upset during one of his streams because he kept hitting the ground while swinging.
@ShadowStorm78
@ShadowStorm78 8 ай бұрын
@@t.j.1584 lmao. So he got mad about the buffer and that he couldn't swing near the ground and mad he kept hitting the ground while swinging.
@CJ2315
@CJ2315 8 ай бұрын
No way we gonna ignore how fire this man is at the traversal. GOD DAMN HOMIE
@brycekennedy5935
@brycekennedy5935 8 ай бұрын
I laughed so hard when that last guy said that we won't be able to switch between Peter and Miles at any point because I knew exactly that you were going to show that we literally can do that. And it's something that's available very early in the game.
@nathandawson2762
@nathandawson2762 8 ай бұрын
I love how they all complain about no new animations, then in the game there’s a load of new unique animations
@engineergaming2113
@engineergaming2113 8 ай бұрын
I loved sunset overdrive, that shit was fun but you can't really compare it to spider man
@maddenyip4153
@maddenyip4153 8 ай бұрын
8:47 bro was having way too much fun with this crime 💀
@spider-manunknown9193
@spider-manunknown9193 8 ай бұрын
Collin just owned these people without even saying a word.
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
I seriously hate these guys who judge games like Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 before it even fully came out and only on the early build gameplay. It is so dumb! People like this are just looking to hate on stuff for the reason to hate on it and nothing else! Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is an absolute masterpiece of a game, I may have a few issues with the game but they are minor stuff so I still love the game overall
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
@@monkeaf I am fine with the people who make honest criticism about games but it is the ones like Lucas and such that annoy me
@tiltedbandy6038
@tiltedbandy6038 8 ай бұрын
​@@monkeafdude, majorly they were saying "Oh it sucks because it's going to be like this!" they didn't say "Maybe, perhaps" just certainties, which don't make sense! They are smooth brains
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
@@tiltedbandy6038agreed and thank you
@t.j.1584
@t.j.1584 8 ай бұрын
@@monkeafSharing opinions is fine, but like someone else said. Stating things as fact when you don’t have the full picture is stupid and it’ll make ya look stupid too. Like for example what Amazing Lucas said about the loop de loop mechanic and that “it’s automated, you can’t control it your self, you don’t smack the wall, ground or buildings”. He made this claim like it’s 100% fact, when they never even shown us what the loop de loop looked like. Just for the game to officially come out and debunk his whole claim about it. Just like the dozens of asinine claims that were debunked in this video.
@SHMidlerPlays
@SHMidlerPlays 8 ай бұрын
@@t.j.1584 exactly
@michaelbailey1242
@michaelbailey1242 7 ай бұрын
Didn't we already learn this lesson earlier this year with tears of the kingdom?
@rufus5208
@rufus5208 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'll give Lucas half credit for his loop de loop argument because you can have enough speed for a loop de loop but you won't get it unless you dive beforehand. So if you glide down without pressing L3 and try to perform a loop de loop spiderman will let go like a normal swing.
@lm_slayer1
@lm_slayer1 8 ай бұрын
I kinda wish the loop de loop wasn't tied to the dive , and that in general, you could just decide when to let go of the web rather than the game always letting go automatically when hitting the apex of the swing
@NotXr_
@NotXr_ 8 ай бұрын
It’s so easy to do the dive and they make it make sense
@lm_slayer1
@lm_slayer1 8 ай бұрын
@@NotXr_ that's not the point. He's saying that even when you have just as much speed generated without pressing L3 to dive, the game doesn't allow you to loop, which doesn't make any sense
@Shiddedandfarded129
@Shiddedandfarded129 8 ай бұрын
@@lm_slayer1non issue btw
@renzuassassin3724
@renzuassassin3724 8 ай бұрын
I can understand the loop de loop argument but what credit are you giving him? I mean I don’t really remember him using the R3 argument unless I’m remembering wrong, I would say unless you mean the R3 is tied to the “control” aspect of the argument then alright understandable
@mysticmason
@mysticmason 8 ай бұрын
I love how Colin just debunks whatever they say and shows off DMC level Spiderman gameplay it’s hilarious
@pkpyro2000
@pkpyro2000 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s perfectly fair to judge what is shown as an advertisement to some extent. I mean you can only judge what you’ve experienced and with a trailer however you have to be cautious because you don’t know how much is really there speculating is fine and saying how you feel about what was shown is fine but stating things as fact when you dont have the full picture is stupid.
@t.j.1584
@t.j.1584 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Like when the first Sonic movie trailer came out, people criticized it and the people behind it changed the look for him and he looked 100x better. And there’s nothing wrong with speculation and saying how you feel about what we’ve been shown. But like you said, stating things as fact when you don’t have the full picture before the product comes out is stupid…and it’s gonna make ya look stupid as well. Like when Amazing Lucas said the loop de loop was only gonna be “automated, you couldn’t control it yourself and won’t smack into any buildings or the ground.” He made that statement as if we were shown the loop de loop already before the games release (which we weren’t) and made it sound like a fact, when that turned out to not be the case upon the games release. Or like what the other guys said about there being no new animations, no more side content, no character switching etc. Just to be debunked and look stupid.
@raf686
@raf686 8 ай бұрын
I mean it's how these guys come across like they are stating facts. I do agree for sure on your statement here. Like they played the game in there hands. Sure share your opinion but there is a fine line when it comes to what was shown here.
@fobo3361
@fobo3361 8 ай бұрын
This video just makes me sad, yes spiderman 2 is a good, but undoubtedly its a sequel that plays it safe and with 5 years could've been so much more, and could've felt like a completely different game, people dont really get how good their games could be anymore, yea some of these people are just making arguments in bad faith, but some of these people actually just wanted more from this game, and that shouldn't be grounds to discourage them (for example the dude talking about web of shadows, its true that game was wayyy more physics based and let you do way more then sm2 even if it didn't have the same flash animations) this games still automated, for the sake of making the player feel cool regardless of skill level, its a game design philosophy that is grounded in what makes the most money, making a daring innovative completely brand new web swinging system with a crazy high skill cieling that you cant just pick up and master by holding one button? Or just making a game that does everything for you and lets you sit back in aww at how cool you are? Obviously the one that doesn't innovate on a pre existing system that has already shown to farm money and appeases the masses, why waste the time if it doesn't make money right? Thats the philosophy these games have, yea they're cool games, but they could've been so much more if they took that chance to put time into an overhaul of the system, they almost did with the automated setting, massive step in the right direction, but cmon, that setting should've been in Mile's Morales, not a chance it took them 5 years to add fall damage and change a few values that let you actually hit the ground Just disappointing to see the community reacting to even just the suggestion of innovation with hate and even confusion on why you'd even wanna make something better when it's already good enough
@firstlast6226
@firstlast6226 8 ай бұрын
The insomniac fan base are the only fanbase I've seen that don't want innovation.
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
These guys made my brain completely turn off
@Kingrenty
@Kingrenty 8 ай бұрын
It's amusing that some of these guys say this stuff with a straight face
@Spider-K
@Spider-K 8 ай бұрын
how do you do the rubix cube thing while swinging as peter?
@humblebeast9813
@humblebeast9813 8 ай бұрын
When you dive backwards by pressing L3 hold down the square button and the analog stick down. Only when he dives backwards though
@jaydimmick8554
@jaydimmick8554 8 ай бұрын
While driving hold the trick button and back on the stick
@rufus5208
@rufus5208 8 ай бұрын
​@@humblebeast9813no you don't have to dive backwards. You can do it with a normal dive. I don't even think Peter can dive backwards like Miles does.
@iron_serpent_2293
@iron_serpent_2293 8 ай бұрын
Dude, I didn’t even know you could do some of the stuff you could do with the webswinging footage. That gameplay was insane! Insomniac definitely outdid themselves with the traversal in Spider-Man 2
@abdelilhmanflores
@abdelilhmanflores 8 ай бұрын
blud really said spiderman swing system is boring and his gameplay wasnt even using any buttons except R2 and left stick☠☠
@ObsidianShinobi801
@ObsidianShinobi801 8 ай бұрын
Saying miles and peter do the same kicking move is like saying i dont like a game where u play as two people who use the same gun. May as well complain they both swing😂 or both have gliders
@_INKY_THE_IDIOT
@_INKY_THE_IDIOT 8 ай бұрын
Sm2 is the new definition of let them cook
@jadendeadredemption7262
@jadendeadredemption7262 8 ай бұрын
all these idiots saying its gonna flop and look where it is now. 93 on metacritic. 9.7/10 on IMDB and 8/10 on ign. i hope these losers feel bad because theyre wrong
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
And they'll still make excuses like "The reviews were paid!!! 🤓"
@jadendeadredemption7262
@jadendeadredemption7262 8 ай бұрын
@@Natezilla_2 ikr lol..i saw this guy on tiktok saying spider man 2 is gonna flop and he was wrong and now hes trying so hard to back up what he said and hes says stuff like “imdb is just corrupt” and “reviews are paid” i know hes only saying that because he feels embarrassed that he was wrong
@VulgarRage
@VulgarRage 7 ай бұрын
The game is not gonna flop . A huge part of the buyers are people like myself who simply adored the first game and were impatiently waiting for this one. And still a AAA game with millions invested, good graphics and good gameplay. BUT The pandering and unnecessary woke sh1t is damn annoying. Seriously it’s notoriously noticeable there’s an extra effort to promote diversity , inclusion , lgbt etc ideology where there’s completely uncalled for. Black cat appears in the game for a few minutes to literally just say “I’m gay” and never be seen again lmao. I was like “ok …. Pretty irrelevant you have a gf in Paris but I guess that will be somehow relevant in the story” Nope just a statement. There’s all the other stuff that we already know but for me that one takes the cake. I just make the extra effort to ignore all that sh1t and play the game because I still payed 70€ for it. But it’s still annoying af. I just want a good game free of pandering and agendas.
@jadendeadredemption7262
@jadendeadredemption7262 7 ай бұрын
@@VulgarRage agree 100%
@biiyen8458
@biiyen8458 8 ай бұрын
I kinda agree with Lucas on that point he made about the Wall Kick animation being exclusive to the Symbiote Suit. The move's brutality fits the Symbiote more than if regular Pete or Miles does it probably because having the Symbiote on sets a precedent that the character's under the influence of an external force that's why they wouldn't hold back as much
@jinsungyuu8365
@jinsungyuu8365 7 ай бұрын
I mean, I guess it shows the brutality, but they’re still holding back and anyone with skills, an arm and 2 legs can do that, and if that was the case, then we wouldn’t really have that after Peter becomes good again, so that would just become a nerf
@biiyen8458
@biiyen8458 7 ай бұрын
@@jinsungyuu8365 Black Suit Peter might still be "holding back" but you can't deny that the wall kick has a slightly higher degree of aggression that fits the theme with the Symbiote better than their standard movesets.
@jinsungyuu8365
@jinsungyuu8365 7 ай бұрын
@@biiyen8458 Ok, but like you won’t have that skill later in the game anymore because Peter will lose his aggressiveness and gain back control
@s.k.4289
@s.k.4289 8 ай бұрын
The true innovation would be the removal of Lucas’ hat. #LucasTakeTheHatOff
@Cowfedbeef
@Cowfedbeef 8 ай бұрын
“No new web system” me slingshots of a roof hits a loop the loop then symbiote jumps to a wall bounce to transition to wing suit and then do a corner turn with webs
@jdoubleclutch3952
@jdoubleclutch3952 8 ай бұрын
The crazy part is that TheAmazingLucas even acknowledged that he nitpicks. He had 407K subscribers and now he has 406K after the incident everyone knows about…glad people are finally starting to see TheAmazingLucas is a terrible reviewer…so bad I can’t even rate how good he is😂😂 (Legends know what this means!🤣)
@gabrieldiaz6933
@gabrieldiaz6933 8 ай бұрын
One thing I will say though is that I do wish the black suits had different base animations. In wos it's like a different character entirely
@parteekgakhal1915
@parteekgakhal1915 8 ай бұрын
I mean that’s fair. One small thing is that while you have the black suit and the normal suit, Peter crouches in stealth encounters while he’s on the floor. But after you do the lizard boss, he just does the default running and walking animations cz he’s more confident and powerful
@gabrieldiaz6933
@gabrieldiaz6933 8 ай бұрын
@parteekgakhal1915 That's definitely nice, I just wish he had a more noticeable difference. Like traversal. Combat I don't mind too much especially since Peter says the symbiote knows how he likes to fight.
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
Just because it doesn't do EXACTLY what WOS did to a tee, that doesn't mean you don't get a new experience with the symbiote abilities. They made the symbiote a cosmetic skin so that you can have a more customizable experience. WOS and this game have completely different systems in place. And you do get different animations with the symbiote surge, and a couple different finisher animations
@gabrieldiaz6933
@gabrieldiaz6933 8 ай бұрын
@C0LIN. I'm not saying that it doesn't provide a different experience with the abilities. What I am saying is that it would have been nice had there been new base animations - ESPECIALLY in the later half where the black suit evolves into the symbiote suit. Peter's dialog becomes more brutal and aggressive - I just wish the animations reflected that.
@gabrieldiaz6933
@gabrieldiaz6933 8 ай бұрын
Basically what I'm saying is, while it would have been nice, that doesn't make what we got any less great. Doesn't make or break the game for me
@architdewan6717
@architdewan6717 8 ай бұрын
I think Spider-Man 2 is a solid 9.3/10. It’s everything I wanted it to be but of course it’s not perfect and some of the points I cut is because it’s missing features from its predecessors. Also wished there was more black cat rather than 1 chase. I could go into detail tho if u want
@t.j.1584
@t.j.1584 8 ай бұрын
That’s literally the same reason as to why it’s not a full 10/10 for me yet. Once all the updates come out and they add all those features like New game+, story and side mission replay, changing the weather and your symbiote abilities turning back to black depending on what suit you wear, than it’ll officially be a 10 for me.
@noellalexander9527
@noellalexander9527 8 ай бұрын
I missed a few of those old tricks/devices at first. Then I realized that if the second also included them then there wouldn't be any reason for me to ever play the first game again. It would be like one restaurant having every food I love or having the exact same relationship with all of my friends. I'm glad that i have to go to different places to get different things. it'll be fun to go back and play the first game again , to get to experience using some of those tricks again. Having two games to love is better than just having one.
@BeingOriginalAintEasy
@BeingOriginalAintEasy 8 ай бұрын
I think my only minor gripe with this game is how there isn't much new finishers. Amazing game either way
@ualps2
@ualps2 8 ай бұрын
for me, it’s also missing features. like, after the game is done for me, there isn’t much more to do aside from crimes and swinging
@BeingOriginalAintEasy
@BeingOriginalAintEasy 8 ай бұрын
@@ualps2 that's definitely true, it's been like that for all 3 games. Maybe the next one (if there is a next one) will have some end game content. Like the dlcs from SM 2018
@ualps2
@ualps2 8 ай бұрын
@@BeingOriginalAintEasy yeah, i know, but when i played them it had all of those features (because i’m just really late to a lot of stuff) and another gripe is just the symbiote attacks after the story, like when you use the black suit, it’s still white- like where tf did the color come from, the emblem?
@MahNamJeff
@MahNamJeff 8 ай бұрын
@@BeingOriginalAintEasy I think removing replayable bases really put a hit on replayability, but i keep coming back for just how fun the core loop is. but they really should have kept that in.
@dzero1044
@dzero1044 8 ай бұрын
​@@MahNamJeff100% Agree, I really hope they'll have that in an update later, hell even for the Hunter Blinds too
@AdApT3Rx
@AdApT3Rx 8 ай бұрын
SM2 is peak (it’s the only game I platinum’d)
@Ara24_td
@Ara24_td 8 ай бұрын
The symbiote suit is basically a cosmetic in the game, it's treated like one, because you can't change it during gameplay like in WOS, you literally have to go into the suit menu. On top of that, you can use the abilities on any suit you want, so what's the point?
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
It adds customization for the player
@Vintagesonic1
@Vintagesonic1 8 ай бұрын
Damn Colin, you are incredibly skilled at keeping your momentum when web swinging.
@exocolt15
@exocolt15 8 ай бұрын
The director said the wing suit started development during the first game but couldn’t work with the ps4 lol
@kokushibo1014
@kokushibo1014 8 ай бұрын
I swear lucas has a peanut for a brain. And im generous
@TahniZCat2
@TahniZCat2 7 ай бұрын
I didn't even see you hit the "water skimming" in this video. That goes to show you just how crazy versatile and innovative this game is, and your game play sequences shown to prove the critics wrong gave me all the goosebumps! Best humble pie ever given
@void_goldie9803
@void_goldie9803 7 ай бұрын
the fact that people can spew their shitty, uneducated opinions into the world and to their audience with no repercussions is actually triggering
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft 8 ай бұрын
I have some issues with the game like the MJ section, I never cared for those even in the previous game, and Miles’ high school missions are some the most boring missions in the game to me unfortunately, they’re definitely going to be annoying on repeated play throughs But the game is fun overall definitely a step up from the previous 2 games, I’d give it an 8/10 Edit: After beating the game and letting the hype die down I’ve realized I don’t care for the story in this game and the dialogue can be meh if not outright cringey a lot of the time which again is a shame, I much prefer the story of the first game So I’m going to bump my initial score down slightly to a 7.5/10 Also this doesn’t affect my rating of the game but the double standard that Insomniac/Sony has for certain things (like COMPLETELY removing the lgbt dialogue/flags in Middle Eastern versions of the game) is so blatant it hurts
@kaishajacobye
@kaishajacobye 8 ай бұрын
They improved the MJ missions so much! Idk how it doesnt please you guys. You don’t have to necessarily stealth if you dodge to cover, you can fight back, you can go guns blazing with the web shooter attachment if you can dodge, and there are probably many other ways to play these missions once new game plus comes out. Insomniac should add a MJ missions disable option, but if they do I am personally keeping that off because I need more of these missions in a DLC.
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft
@AbdulAhad-hx1ft 8 ай бұрын
@@kaishajacobye I don’t find it enjoyable for the simple fact that I can’t play as spider-man in a spider-man game. The MJ missions has certainly improved but that’s not saying much
@GrampaJoe
@GrampaJoe 8 ай бұрын
Fair judgment
@kalyambaba4847
@kalyambaba4847 8 ай бұрын
8:00 Lucas is right here. The symiote feels absolutely the same (more like a cosmetic)… what he means is that the symbiote doesn’t change: the stance, the moves themselves when pressing square, the swinging. How do y’all not get this.
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
You literally don’t know how to read or use ur brain
@skittlesareretcon6109
@skittlesareretcon6109 8 ай бұрын
So you want peter to suddenly forget his fighting style after getting the symbiote?
@Profilemango4660_
@Profilemango4660_ 7 ай бұрын
I bought a ps5 just for this masterpiece and it was 6x more worth it than I expected
@eyesofdeath01
@eyesofdeath01 8 ай бұрын
I’m a nintendo guy. have been for years. I was fucking stoked for spiderman 2 and I hadn’t touched my ps5 for months before it came out. so tell me again, what in the actual fuck was that guy’s “point” that was about as dull as a circle about the “sOnY sImPs WaItInG fOr ThEiR nEw CrApPy GaMe”?
@tiegideon9816
@tiegideon9816 8 ай бұрын
6:10 is a fair criticism and your rebuttal doesn’t have anything to do with what he’s talking about. It doesn’t matter if there’s other segments to the boss fight. He’s saying that simply moving your analog side to side isn’t very engaging gameplay wise, which is fair. I personally didn’t mind, but I found myself pushing my web shooter trigger during those sequences before realizing that there’s nothing more to them, which left me kinda like “Oh, I guess I don’t have to do anything”
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
It’s supposed to be cool spectacle not extremely engaging… it literally is a non issue it last 10 seconds. So again both u and him stfu
@ThDragoomba
@ThDragoomba 7 ай бұрын
​@@C0LIN.So it's not supposed to be engaging? 😂 Who let u cook
@deadpoolcoolkidg1222
@deadpoolcoolkidg1222 2 ай бұрын
🤡 ​@@ThDragoomba
@stoopidkid25
@stoopidkid25 5 ай бұрын
That 3rd guy made me incredibly angry
@kemolucha7050
@kemolucha7050 7 ай бұрын
Personally my main gripe woth Spiderman PS4, and somewhat Miles Morales was that the swinging was slower than I wanted it to be. And that I would've appreciated more tricks, and better co trol if possible. I haven't played Spiderman 2 PS5, mostly because I don't have a ps5. But it seems like they've cured the issues of the speed and control I mentioned. Tricks, though, still seem more or less the same, with the addition of the rubiks cube one for Peter. Idk, I wish there was just like some sort of Web swinging mode that was just built for casually having g fun across the city. But aside from that, they really upped the anti with everything in this game when it came to web swinging, faster, a bit more expressive, more options like with the arms and symbiote boosts as well as web wings. I think it's overall a great thing they've done, and just can't wait to see what they do with the next game.
@Tobiasagain
@Tobiasagain 8 ай бұрын
Only grips I have about this game is not having any replay ability option wether it be the side missions or the main missions after you complete the story at launch as well as being able to use the black symbiote as I know narratively he doesn’t have that suit anymore but that shouldn’t matter when they’ve made both the black and symbiote suits still wearable after you completed the story since it’s cosmetics. Might as well have an option to still change it back to the black color or add customizable colors for the tendrils.
@MahNamJeff
@MahNamJeff 8 ай бұрын
Ik the tendrils thing is being accounted for at some point.
@AnotherPersonAlive
@AnotherPersonAlive 8 ай бұрын
The weather is a difficult topic, yes yo7 can change it though. Just go to a mysterium with the time you want.
@zaydagoat6952
@zaydagoat6952 8 ай бұрын
Dont worry insomniac got us
@Tobiasagain
@Tobiasagain 8 ай бұрын
@@AnotherPersonAlive I didn’t mention the weather though it is also another thing that should’ve been added day 1
@adamtruong1759
@adamtruong1759 8 ай бұрын
Having patience as a virtue sure does wonders for people.
@gt5bonelesshuman421
@gt5bonelesshuman421 8 ай бұрын
This video is a big: “ Stop prematurely saying something is bad because it will bite you in the ass”
@flyinglions2223
@flyinglions2223 8 ай бұрын
In his review, Lucas said that the swinging is the best out of every Spider-Man game thus far. He was way too quick to make a video on it before playing it.
@dindoyop7478
@dindoyop7478 8 ай бұрын
I just hate how if it isn't rdr2 level realistic its considered trash by some.
@victorr.khammoungkhoun6380
@victorr.khammoungkhoun6380 8 ай бұрын
The Howard side mission with the Seabird song serenading us and the pigeons while gliding above the water slapped my soul.
@AgenteSpider
@AgenteSpider 8 ай бұрын
people think a game sequel needs an reboot of all game systems
@FrankCzz
@FrankCzz 8 ай бұрын
Bro you killed the freestyles in this video 💪🏼🔥🔥
@ammaraqasha
@ammaraqasha 5 ай бұрын
People are right. To become a spider-man fan is to hate spider-man.
@Lavontae04
@Lavontae04 8 ай бұрын
Another great video Colin 💯
@tiltedbandy6038
@tiltedbandy6038 8 ай бұрын
Dude "The web swinging feels so dull, boring" Of course it does if all you do is holding R2. These people really should be locked up in a prison for being braindead.
@VortexGaming1194
@VortexGaming1194 8 ай бұрын
My apologies if this was asked already but are you going to do a stream where you do the rest of the side content and missions? Just finished watching your streams of the main story. Loving the content. Keep it up!
@C0LIN.
@C0LIN. 8 ай бұрын
I already did it off stream
@AnotherPersonAlive
@AnotherPersonAlive 8 ай бұрын
@@C0LIN.bro got addicted
@TrivatorGaming
@TrivatorGaming 8 ай бұрын
That's why you shouldn't judge anything before it comes out
@mycah925
@mycah925 8 ай бұрын
I only wish they'd of made it so you could run while holding your web, or even better, I wish Peter and Mile's would curl their legs up when they get that low and would drag their hand on the ground like they do in certain scenes in games or movies. My other complaint would be that I wish you could slingshot in mid air kinda like SM2 on Playstation 2. They're small things but they're great things. Also the interactivity when it came to doing car chases feels like it was a bit dumbed down but that's whatever honestly.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree. I'd love to be able to run on the ground while being swinging like in The Ultimate spiderman game or in the moves.
@kitbashhkai
@kitbashhkai 8 ай бұрын
Also speaking about the swing system not being new they added the ability to add charge jump to your d pad giving tons of new ways to use it during swinging to gain altitude and increase your own speed
@The-Legend-of-P
@The-Legend-of-P 7 ай бұрын
How do you use ti during swinging? You can only charge jump on the ground
@DARMOK99100
@DARMOK99100 8 ай бұрын
It’s really crazy how anyone could honestly think from seeing a couple minutes of footage “oh I’ve seen everything that’s new they haven’t changed anything” it’s honestly sad and it doesn’t even make sense if you just take a second and think.
@jaredfortin6810
@jaredfortin6810 7 ай бұрын
Finally finished the game I can now come back to watching your videos
@Murdstone12
@Murdstone12 7 ай бұрын
To the idiots that doubted me on sandman showing up I told you so 😎
@yeastaroonios3874
@yeastaroonios3874 8 ай бұрын
This man's movement skills are insane
@ThePostaldude1-4-U
@ThePostaldude1-4-U 8 ай бұрын
13:38 You're both wrong. The webwings doesn't feel like it's on railes in freeroam. True But it definitely feels on railes when going through windtunnels.
@peacetea_life
@peacetea_life 7 ай бұрын
I aspire to be that good at swinging
@drakkonem
@drakkonem 7 ай бұрын
8:28 yea about that the symbiote feels more like a cosmetic than anything else, it's not a power up or addicting like other games unless you use the rage mode which is just braindead, it's really sad that the symbiote suit doesn't have it's own animations and fighting style and I'm not even gonna talk about the lack of finishers in the entire game.
@12000Werewolf
@12000Werewolf 8 ай бұрын
There’s a difference between how a game looks and how a game feels so many people get caught on how things look the same but when playing it it definitely does not feel the same it feels smoother more polished wayyyyyyy more intuitive and less repetitive
@Lonewolf360gaming
@Lonewolf360gaming 8 ай бұрын
Sunset overdrive was really fun but the comparison is odd, in that game your constantly moving and enemies are pretty easy to cheese with throughout the game with the exception of the brute types and flying types which are just damage sponges while spider-man has you juggling enemies around trying to keep the combo up parrying and special abilities ontop of that
@whatsyourpoint5417
@whatsyourpoint5417 8 ай бұрын
Hitting a loop de loop for the first time after turning off swing assist was the most satisfying thing I've done all year on god
@MildlySpider-Man
@MildlySpider-Man 7 ай бұрын
For all of those guys you can literally just say "You haven't played it yet, you don't know how it works".
@Aunty-Sentry
@Aunty-Sentry 7 ай бұрын
funny that that third guy complained about insomniacs only xbox/microsoft exclusive game instead of ratchet and clank -3-, rip sunset overdrive it gave fuel to spidey, it will be missed
@bmt7607
@bmt7607 8 ай бұрын
1:53 How can you say that while playing like that? (He only uses x for momentun AFTER swinging and not during).
@Nikorasu1048
@Nikorasu1048 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if they learned their lesson lol 😆
@josephbradley4002
@josephbradley4002 8 ай бұрын
Nope!
@MrSad-ul8vj
@MrSad-ul8vj 8 ай бұрын
bro gave us time to split into tweams of five and discuss the web swinging lmao
@Chromono22
@Chromono22 8 ай бұрын
Seeing people get absolutely slammed into buildings when doing the loop-de-loop is absolutely freaking hilarious to me
@Pangerg
@Pangerg 8 ай бұрын
"Never judge a book by its cover", heard that before?
@jaydimmick8554
@jaydimmick8554 8 ай бұрын
All I want from this game is then to fix the flag in miles house, apologise for the butchered Spanish and add the ability to change the colour of the symbiote abilities post game
@watchmehope6560
@watchmehope6560 8 ай бұрын
I can't believe they butchered my language to please some people that don't even know who they are.
@Natezilla_2
@Natezilla_2 8 ай бұрын
They did fix the flag in a recent patch
@Rosy-uz5ld
@Rosy-uz5ld 8 ай бұрын
The Flag is fixed, stop crying about the letter "E" for non binary ppl in a videogame it's just 3 dialogues my dude. The symbiote is true
@jaydimmick8554
@jaydimmick8554 8 ай бұрын
@Rosy-uz5ld I'm not crying about it I know nothing about spanish I just know that a lot of spanish speaking people are mad so I just said that should be addressed. And ok fair I haven't played in a few days so I didn't know about the flag switch
@casbinwat
@casbinwat 8 ай бұрын
​@@Rosy-uz5ldwhen it comes to language, it just sounds stupid
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