nobody watched you loser. Stop commenting on your own videos to make it look like people are actually interacting on your page. You ever visit a gym? Maybe go on a diet? I'm guessing you are one lonely miserable pathetic loser. As long as we get to see the pointy titties and triple chin; I think your channel will keep growing!!!!!
@craigfiedler21107 ай бұрын
I’m just a collector. Never sold a card, traded a few, but I even have all my childhood cards from the 80s and 90s. I enjoy the fun of collecting. These investors and flippers have taken the spirit out of the hobby. I don’t even like my local hobby shop anymore, because it’s more about the business. Whatever happened to the pack of cards for 50 cents? As a kid, I could afford that, but how can kids and parents afford the current prices even at Walmart? Investors and flippers ruined a great hobby for most people.
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Agreed
@chasejackson72486 ай бұрын
What happened to dollar gas, the economy isn't the same as the 90s
@sbswtnchoice6 ай бұрын
This exactly. Thank you.
@stereomois3 ай бұрын
Same scenario, and completely agree. If I depended on modern cards, I'd be out in a heartbeat. But there's a period from late 90s until a few years ago where I didnt buy cards that still keeps me entertained. Plus some vintage and the sets Missed. And it cheaper than overpriced boring new boxes
@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures2 ай бұрын
@chasejackson7248 dollar gas is 3.50 now. Back in the 80s, I could mow a lawn for $10 or shovel some snow and buy a box of cards. I saw where a box of cats is selling for $900. Do regular kids have that kind of money? This is completely a business now.
@edwinbjorgen37903 ай бұрын
$7-800 box is turned into 15$, 99% of the time. That’s why I buy singles, a year or 2 after the hype. Prices usually fall by 95% on 95% of those that are over priced. Greed, Greed, and more GREED.
@dustinp52997 ай бұрын
I consider myself much more of a collector/dealer than a flipper, but I've been having as much fun during the last several months as I did during the height of the market. The key for me is that I largely stay away from ultra modern cards, which, as you mention, are often flipped like a hot potato from one person to the next. Instead, I try to focus on cards collectors truly want--key rookies, rare 1990s inserts, pre-war cards like t206, etc. Those happen to be the cards I prefer for my PC, so the collector/dealer aspect meshes together pretty well. I'm not necessarily making a ton of money, but I consider it a fun side hustle + hobby. I agree that there are a lot of scammers and shady people in the hobby, but that's always been a huge problem, going back to the 1990s and surely before that. It just comes with the territory. Anyway, sorry to hear you're getting out for now. Hopefully, you'll jump back in down the road.
@coopstain17285 ай бұрын
Where is a good place to sell cards besides Ebay?
@TheEnd-eg6wq4 ай бұрын
The "hobby" is big business now, pure and simple.
@chrisolivo65917 ай бұрын
The hobby will always be in a catch 22. Remember, the companies are not worried about long-term values of these cards. Their job is print supply to meet demand. When the hobby is popular, late 80’s/early 90’s and the past 5 years, they are printing more to meet demand and you get a glut of worthless cards. When the hobby is less popular, they print less and the cards hold their value over time. Thats the irony and why you should never look at them from an investment point of view. The best era of cards that hold their value are usually when no one is collecting or before people knew to take care of their cards. That’s why the hobby will always be in a catch 22.
@johnwink95874 ай бұрын
or you just view it fun and long term collector and by the time a few decades pass or more, inflation will make your cards worth more, especially if you had some nice ones and keep them in nice conditions!
@jafishing2187 ай бұрын
Whatnot has exacerbated this problem. People are taking advantage of undereducated collectors and cards are now selling for 50% or higher above comps. Crazy times.
@maserips7 ай бұрын
2 things. You aren't supposed get your money back on a box. And yes, boxes are overpriced
@jeffersonthomas16437 ай бұрын
I don’t believe he is saying you should get your money back but what I’m hearing him say is it would be nice to actually have a chance of getting the value back. Like he said you have to hit the best card in the entire product to do so. I agree with you about the pricing tho 🤙🏼
@Ieatz_6 ай бұрын
who cares wtf this loser is saying? he sucks at just about everything he does? No?@@jeffersonthomas1643
@jimscardsandcollectibles19907 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right about the lack of value you get from a hobby box in recent years. Back in 2008, I bought 2 hobby boxes (for $60 dollars each?) of Leaf rookies and stars. In one box, I pulled a Calvin Johnson auto to 15 (still in my PC) and in the other, an Emerald auto of Marshawn Lynch to 5 (traded for vintage Steeler cards). The odds certainly seem much steeper pulling monster hits these days.
@chasejackson72486 ай бұрын
Look at the odds then they are the same as today, the big card in the 90s was the upperdeck game used jersey ken griffey Jr it was almost impossible to get
@hotjoe8177 ай бұрын
The idiots continue to buy hobby boxes over $300 or more, until people stop spending that much, it won’t change these greedy companies from jacking up the prices and I never buy cards from dealers, eBay is the way to go with auctions, selling can suck with the fees ebay has but there are ways around it with setting a certain price with the fees incorporated in the price and you can gradually lower the price as it doesn’t sell
@joelb.26857 ай бұрын
That’s why you should only collect vintage cards. Modern cards are strictly for suckers..
@patrickodonnell44296 ай бұрын
agreed !
@john-m8w28 күн бұрын
Ok. Ken Griffey, Frank Thomas, Jim Thome rookie cards along with many others are worth shit. Plus not fun waiting around 35 years to sell a card for $25 bucks.
@njmaxrocks7 ай бұрын
New wax is just a lottery ticket, you will lose most of the time.
@srjwildcat35897 ай бұрын
At least 99% of the time
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
Lotto doesnt tally undocumented beings who seem to win a lot more than life-long playing americans. Whats the point ? Psa is cheap online . China
@johnrambo76307 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. If there is no collector ultimately buying the card, the market is pure speculation. The market will likely collapse and speculators will be left with product without a buyer...big losses for those left holding the bag.
@SAS1972-w2k6 ай бұрын
Agree. There are way too many modern cards or they are manipulated in guys that aren’t even that card. I have some old Ruth’s and Gehrig’s and think they will hold their value
@OhioCardVault7 ай бұрын
Starting to see a lot of the points you make and totally agree with you. Plus the seemingly endless variations of cards is diluting the value of cards so much that a 1/1 isn't even a 1/1 anymore. I collect Nico Collins and obtained his 1/1 and was excited only to find 7-8 other variations of the same 1/1 card with different inserts (Shield vs. Laundry Tag vs. Swoosh vs. Glove vs. Jersey...etc). Until things settle down, I tend to agree that it may be time to step away from the hobby from the business perspective of things. It used to be as simple as "you have what I want, I have what you want, let's trade.". You don't see that as much anymore....at least not that simple.
@chasejackson72486 ай бұрын
They aren't the same 1 of 1 then.
@Ieatz_6 ай бұрын
Buddy do you know what a 1-1 is? you fucking idiot. "There NOT the same 1-1🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤 Brooo you have the Tism. Legit 100% what dumb mother ******. Its really cool when they make 45 "1-1" of the same player.......................SAID NO ONE EVEER YOU TRIPLE CHIN LOOKING GOOFY ROLLIE POLLIE PILLSBURY DOUGHBOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY@@chasejackson7248
@jackemerson11717 ай бұрын
Too much modern is crap with sticker autos and fake patches
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Agreed
@nickdrago73907 ай бұрын
I agree! I do not want sticker autos either but It allows people who maybe do not have as much money to spend to get an auto at a more affordable price.
@Mvp-77 ай бұрын
Just another parallel with a little premium @@nickdrago7390
@srjwildcat35897 ай бұрын
@@nickdrago7390 No cards worth collecting are affordable these days.
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
redemptions , and the fact China was given the sports monopoly.
@TheBargainBoxer7 ай бұрын
Nice to hear you bag on Jeff Wilson, Fraudstein, Santiago, Goldin, Card Molestor2, and Blez……Mojo is another one who needs to dip….
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
Every Single Time. BAGELS BEAKS & BARBARISM. Only sheckels , mind contol and slavery is Sacred to THEM. Hobby is done . China has the best deals on American sports cards .
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
Ken goldin is allowing China to sink Ebay card values and monopolize the market in doing so knowing theu will try to stop China in the card market at some time. Goldin knows PSA grades are dropping fast on his platform and ebay is currently about to start Grading and Vaulting Cards themselves . So iys about Ebay takeover PSA space while buying the dip of all the oceans of sports cards of value they have suppressed . The cards who have suppresssled value are then bought and held until the true value is known . Look how cheap psa are selling online. Junk Slab graveyards everywhere. Goldin will try to take psa's place eventually .
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
Every Single Time .
@LSUmisfit5 ай бұрын
Been collecting since the 90s. Was definitely a childhood hobby, it's definitely my adulthood hobby. It's never gonna die for guys like me. The PC would break some hearts too.
@JoeyM00717 күн бұрын
Well said….. And let’s not forget Sports Card Radio, they aren’t much better. They might act like they are exposing scammers, but work their own brand in = openly admitting to selling out for the right price, call people names, creepy sexual comments about young girls = ONE of the brothers is married with children…. But hey, just some boys talking shop, right 🤨. So even the hobby “watchdogs” aren’t much better. Oh, they toggle between supporting / calling out the folks like Goldin / Brian Gray / etc……. Two-faced, if you will 🍻
@blakgotti7 ай бұрын
Everything said is 💯 I collected as a kid in the early 90’s I recently pulled my collection out to see what I had and decided to get back in the hobby to collect the cards I missed from 95 to now but the vintage prices are crazy!
@johnxgalt83126 ай бұрын
I started collecting in 1990. It's always been a hyped up scam.
@v4nd00m6 ай бұрын
100% agree, I got into it as more of a gambling addiction, but about half a year ago it really kicked in that most people are just greedy/scammers/snake oil salesmen.
@ElenaMarcelino97 ай бұрын
I'm going to stop wasting time looking for Sports Cards. Too many have gone down in value. What's the point in investing when your collection has gone down by $2m in value.
@thewolfshirtguy7 ай бұрын
Time to finally have a chance at getting cards you want
@ElenaMarcelino97 ай бұрын
@@thewolfshirtguy Yep, some are dirt cheap.
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
china has all the deals on ebay
@richlord58196 ай бұрын
Don’t leave!! Just pretend it’s 1988!! Do it for the fun!!
@steveba504 ай бұрын
I was about to dip my toes into this hobby but what you talked about in terms of flippers really put the spotlight on a bad vibe i was getting about this hobby. I can also see an inevitable crash happening. For now i will be an interested observer only. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@garysalyers76113 ай бұрын
I’m with you. I’ll wait for the crash and pick up some great cards at bargain prices.
@pepinoman92717 ай бұрын
A lot depends on how you approach the hobby, eho you watch on KZfaq and who you associate with in the hobby.
@TheEnd-eg6wq4 ай бұрын
Hobby 🤣, it's a business now.
@stereomois3 ай бұрын
@@TheEnd-eg6wq I still have a tons of years/sports missing, so cheap flea market boxes work for me. And sometimes you get the occasional surprise rookie
@KyboneАй бұрын
@@TheEnd-eg6wq That's subjective. Businesses have always been involved... there is just more information now.
@TheEnd-eg6wqАй бұрын
@@Kybone Yeah I know cars shop businesses were involved, there wasn't $500,000 inserts you understand yet?
@arbyharutunyan63116 ай бұрын
Just like when sneakers died, flippers will now move on to something else and kill it now that cards are dying
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Shaw_Cardboard_Treasures3 ай бұрын
Lol. I collected cards as a kid back in the late 70s and early 80s. I just recently bought a card collection from a former dealer. Had absolutely no idea what cards were selling for. I paid for it because of the volume of cards he had. Then I went online and was shocked at cards prices. Most of the cars I bought were mostly junk wax which is a term i just learned. Lol. Luckily he had a ton of basketball cards that are from the late 80s and early 90. Lots of Jordan's, none of the rookie card. Like I said, I bought the cards as a hobby, thinking I could sell some to recoup what I paid. I had no clue that cards were so expensive.
@user-pl4ky4fk5f6 ай бұрын
I’m collecting cards from when I was a kid in the 80’s early 90’s. I buy what I like and don’t care what they’re worth. I just like having them on display.
@fantasy_writer_386 ай бұрын
Exactly how all of us collectors are. Eventually the flippers and the people who just want profits will thankfully leave and things can get back to normal again
@dennishaas474523 күн бұрын
I just collect what I like. Love oddball cards from the 70's, Cardinals items, and schedule posters.
@jeremywarren574810 күн бұрын
Seeing no packs of cards at all in Target, etc is what will be the final nail. I bought 2 packs the other day, lucked upon being there when the guy was stocking shelves. Went back the next day to get another pack and everything was gone!! There is no way that many collectors bought them all in a day. Some douchebag probably gobbled them all up at once.
@biiigsportsguy614810 күн бұрын
Yep a re seller of retail wax. Scum of the hobby
@vintagecollector53407 ай бұрын
Sounds like youre just saying youve been priced out of the hobby. I personally got tired of all the pettiness with condition of cards and artificial pop reports. Its always "Oh! This one is a pop of just 25 in a ten!" Or "This one has a scratch!" Or "Oh!! This card has a dinged corner!" I switched to original photographs and havent looked back. Sure, many of those have taken off in value, but theres still alot of undervalued photos where theyre still in their infancy. Mantle rookies, Mays rookies, George Brett rookies, etc. Ive found tons of deals, even with some type 1 photos, and especially type II.
@arthurmabeejr8752Ай бұрын
I too quit baseball card collecting, buying many cards myself. I started out collecting them since the 60's, I'm 62 now and, my journey was well over 50 years. I have no complaints other than 1 major baseball card company, there is no real money in the hobby. I'll keep my major cards and, will be selling the remainder of my 784,000 cards, my good cards will be buried with me. I will still hold my goodies because 99% can't afford my cards, most are graded between 9 to 10, I have a handful of 7 grade cards and, only 1 graded a 6 which is fine with me.
@SyverRundhaug7 ай бұрын
Solid video man. Good to take a break for sure. My question for you though is how are you going to strategically step away from the hobby. I mean, the hobby comes with people addicted to certain habits, like checking ebay, facebook marketplace, etc... for card deals. Pacing Target and Walmart for new card releases. Not to mention friend networks into cards pulling you back in. As someone, who'd also like to take a step back, I'm curious what your input would be. Thanks
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
I left all the Facebook groups, sold all the cards I had stacked up around my place, and I’ll be busy with work and a few other hobbies
@ericenloe896716 күн бұрын
I stopped collecting when Topps RUINED the Baseball card hobby years and years ago. I will eventually just sell off everything I have except my tobacco and early 1900's cards. The card hobby is GARBAGE NOW and that really sucks but everything has it's day.
@caolanhogeweide655522 күн бұрын
I collected in the early 90s, then didn't buy a pack for almost ten years. Got back into the hobby in the 2010s, but here in Japan where I live now the MLB packs are expensive so I didn't buy that much. I've decided to just buy individual cards instead of gambling on boxes and such. That way I get what I want and can invest my money as the Yen is useless.
@FeveTen7 ай бұрын
the hobby becomes a lot more fun when you collect what you love The hobby has turned into the hype beast of the industry, Peyton Manning autos are cheaper than Joe Burrow. So collect the guys like that, have fun with it. Make it fun for yourself! I understand where you are coming from, but know that there is fun in the hobby. It sounds like the hype has taken over and most of your complaints come from the hype hype. ;)
@TheBargainBoxer7 ай бұрын
I saw you in Hickory. That was a while ago…..quit youtube and don’t quit the hobby. KZfaq is the problem…..
@catdaddy26437 ай бұрын
Pennsylvania?
@TheBargainBoxer7 ай бұрын
@@catdaddy2643 North Carolina….
@srjwildcat35897 ай бұрын
I don't think it's KZfaq that's the problem. I think it's scumbag scalpers/secondary market sellers/WhatFnNot/Wannabe breakers/deep pocketed money launderers, etc... The covid invasion destroyed the hobby. Hopefully it will recover like past times, but they've priced most l9ng term TRYE collectors out of the hobby and thats who typically saves the hobby each time it collapses. We survived the junk wax era. We We survive the vivid invasion collapse and junk slab era??? Not so sure
@TheBargainBoxer2 ай бұрын
@@catdaddy2643 North Carolina….
@HuddleCardCollection7 ай бұрын
I think we are far away from the collector being the end buyer. Even though prices are going down there is still a ways to go.
@E180TEKNO2 ай бұрын
personally whe"n i see severals box of NBA for exemple at so 700dollar or same 1000 dollar is so expensive really it's destroy this hobby really
@COBRA-ky8qc7 ай бұрын
cards newer than 1975 is a waste of time. I own complete sets of 1933 and 1934 goudey as well as complete sets of topps 1952 to 1973. I make an average of 8 to 12 million a month. The money is not the happiness though rather it is the joy of seeing, having, and knowing the history of baseball that brings the happiness.
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
You make $8-12 million a month? Come on man be real lol
@COBRA-ky8qc7 ай бұрын
I have been doing this full-time for 58 years. I have one of the most extensive collections the hobby has ever😊known.@@biiigsportsguy6148
@vintageslabman7 ай бұрын
Very well said. I love the history and feelings that holding vintage items in hand evoke. That is what it is all about for me in regards to the rewards and enjoyment. The upside is the hope that it also holds a stable value while you get to enjoy it as and added benefit. Cheers.
@COBRA-ky8qc7 ай бұрын
that is correct. to many young people think they can get into this hobby and make fast money. that is a huge mistake. it takes years of dedication and hard work to make it. I am one of the original sellers that started selling in 1965. I started collecting and buying huge collections around the country when gas was cheap and hotels were cheap back in 1953. I only started making the big rewards in 1984. Since then the rest is history. Cheers@@vintageslabman
@fastfootedone7 ай бұрын
@@biiigsportsguy6148 he's having a laugh -- -and it is kinda funny LOL
@sbswtnchoice6 ай бұрын
You could get your money back two-fold or more in buying product up until about September of 2011. This is from my own personal experience.
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Unfortunately my Time Machine is in the shop
@sbswtnchoice6 ай бұрын
I could use a Time Machine too to go back and get the 2011 Topps Baseball Update packs and boxes!
@RobbysHobbies936 ай бұрын
This is why I collect alot of formula 1 and nascar its a little more affordable and being a fan I almost enjoy every single card i don't feel the need to flip. Baseball product is great but under valued and the hit rates in basketball and football suck
@gatecitypaul54807 ай бұрын
I think here in NC there are too many shows. Between Sports Wax, Tidewater, Inside Pitch and all the local promoters and card shops shows and trade nights, there is a show every weekend. I use to get excited to see a show pop up and plan my weekend around it. But now I see a show and I am like, I'll go to the next one.
@FeveTen7 ай бұрын
it's funny you say that, in South Carolina there are barely any shows
@chrisnelson712 ай бұрын
North Carolina has one of the best scenes ive ever seen in the nation. Having shows in your state that bring in people from all over the country is not a negative thing.
@davidespinal38706 ай бұрын
I know that selling cards at shows are usually trades or cash. How do you record those transaction for your business? Sort of as a "proof" of the transaction?
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
You can keep a ledger or use excel on your computer. Just keep a note on your phone and when you get home record it.
@The047SportsTCGCards7 ай бұрын
Hope you kept all your Brady Collection. Hobby always goes thru cycles, leave now but come back when timing is right for you.
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Of course! Got all my numbered rookies! Take care brother
@MileHigh_BoulderCO7 ай бұрын
I've been out of the hobby for the last 3 years as far as buying new product and feel good about that. I still really enjoy sports cards though! I'm confident the hobby will be back in a good place in a couple of years but for now, the hobby is out of balance in every way. (Priorities seem all out of whack!) It will cycle back to the better days once the overall economy recovers. Also remember, the National has had record setting attendance recently so the interest is there. It's just that the sports card market is not following traditional concepts and rules right now which causes a lot of confusion about how things are really supposed to logically work. Thanks for the video!
@KCShoxАй бұрын
Market is over saturated with product. There’s no such thing as exclusive anymore when you have numerous ‘exclusive’ type products. It’s too expensive for the average Joe. You have professional flippers who go to retail stores and buy up all the merchandise the day they’re released and the average collector doesn’t get a chance to purchase any.
@biiigsportsguy6148Ай бұрын
Extremely over saturated
@chamb1576 ай бұрын
Card market is a sinking ship, I made the decision to get out myself
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Good choice
@mattmelis7625 ай бұрын
I collect old Pirates baseball cards (pre-'73 ... Clemente's last year in a release). I don't worry about condition much and care even less about value or grades. I'm having a blast putting together team sets and doing individual player runs. It works for me.
@biiigsportsguy61485 ай бұрын
Sweet
@RichieKnowsBestАй бұрын
I AM WITH YOU! OUT OF THE HOBBY!! IT IS DONE UNTIL AI GRADING.
@lazesquivel26777 ай бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything you said! I just got back into the hobby after my spurs drafted Wemby so I wanted to collect again. My sons are now doing it a bit as well but what I quickly found out is that its nothing like it used to be. Fools like the sports card investor and other fake clowns like sage the card collector as well share so many false narratives and make it seem like theres money to be made in sports cards when in reality there isn't! I dont like the people in it for the money cause they pretty much ruin it for the rest of us. The market gets flooded with cards that are overpriced and fake! It sucks but I'm gonna continue to only purchase what I want for my PC and stop buying anything new all together. Much respect for speaking truth!
@AntBoogie-cn1xh2 ай бұрын
china runs ebay because goldin wants to sink psa so ebay can grade and vault cards. How do cards get made in America , then we cant find them except from the chinese overseas ? Obviously there is a system going on .
@TimmyPruitt1664 ай бұрын
Dang someone sounds like a bitter ex wife! U are calling everybody idiots but yourself, cause if u was buying football cards to make money u are a idiot knowing that u can't make money off of a $800 hobby box with only one position worth any money. The only problem in the hobby is over printing and 3rd person sellers charging $70 for $19.99 box.
@bustingpacks86106 ай бұрын
It’s called post-show hangover. You will be back once that wears off. Also, hire an assistant and pay them an hourly rate plus percentage of profits. Also watch out for teens and young adults they will steal from your table when you are distracted.
@dusksfinds16 күн бұрын
That's why you stick to vintage cards!
@ElenaMarcelino97 ай бұрын
Why are PSA still charging $15 per card? Most cards are worth under $10 these days
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Good point
@tonyvaleri53662 ай бұрын
eco should be 9.00 all the time
@ElenaMarcelino92 ай бұрын
@@tonyvaleri5366 Yep, only problem is that you get half of your cards back damaged.
@KyboneАй бұрын
Because people are paying for it. There are thousands and thousands of cards worth more than $10
@ElenaMarcelino9Ай бұрын
@@Kybone People are stupid then. There's billions of cards worth under $10
@justthefacts21485 ай бұрын
Interesting take on shows. I agree, all I hear is a flipper offering half comps "cuz I'm a dealer, I need to make my end, bro" at every show I am at. I am a collector. I don't sell. I keep. Been collecting 1 guy for 30 plus years BUT, that said, I'm not really your "mark" as you described the need for the end collector who "really values" that card. I wont pay "retail" or top comps for anything. If I cant buy it cheap, I leave it. Cards are just pieces paper or plastic, so I dont sweat them. I am close to a lot of dealers, I have a very good understanding of what cards sell for form dealer to dealer. that's what I'll pay, not much more usually. prices are crashing back thankfully, the last few years were retail sucker bubbles.
@biiigsportsguy61485 ай бұрын
Right on
@coopstain17285 ай бұрын
I collect this one baseball player who is/will be in the HOF easily. I have 18 of his rookie cards that I have bought individually over the past 18 months. 8 out of those 18 have gone up in value significantly. I only buy singles from Ebay or at flea markets. I NEVER buy boxes. NEVER buy any modern cards.. I just cant do it.
@thetoystorecardscollectibl17977 ай бұрын
Agree w a lot your points. I'm still setting up 2 or 3 times a month...and....its...a......GRIND. I can relate to the guys buying at 60-75% so they can immediately go flip on What-not or elsewhere...... As if I woke up early, loaded my truck, drive-time, Hotel room, table fees, set up time, and do it all again in reverse..... just to present my collection to them at 65% 😅. I can avoid all that and fire sell everything on ebay at 87% after fees any day of the week, from my living room. But they get annoyed when I want near comps for my effort. Like I said. ITS...A....GRIND
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
It is, big time
@KyboneАй бұрын
I hear ya, but you shouldn't be selling your cards at 65%... If that's the only buyers you get at those shows, then it's probably in your best interest to stop going.
@dustinfontenot75726 ай бұрын
A lot of fair points, don't follow you and this is the first video I've seen but I do this for a living. I'm not a monster breaker or influencers but overall I guess where I disagree overall is that even though a lot of what you said is true there are still spots for smart people to make money. What is happening is that the "low hanging fruit" is gone. Now you need to have the right connections to move cards at comps and the ability to buy smart. Also grading pipelines are very important and just having a good eye for value. I don't think it's fair you called about CC2 with some of those other names (which I agree with) - I mean the only derogatory thing you said about him is that he's a "huge nerd". Dude we collect paper sports pictures...we are all nerds to some degree. Ryan (CC2) is a good guy, I've done deals with him and met him on many occasions. You come off like one of those people that look for the bad in people before the good. If you are on video helping kids and giving stuff away then you are automatically trying to make money off their rich parents? Come on. We can be good people while also trying to make a living. Good luck in your next adventure.
@Bigfreakinstein7 ай бұрын
Good video. Like how you called out the shady people. I hope you still collect some. I really enjoy it but you hit the nail on the head in this video. Collecting should be fun. I mean, yeah, I love pulling good cards too, but I collect for the fun of it. Good luck in your future.
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Well said
@j.tyler20246 ай бұрын
Nor to mention you can't even send a vintage or 90's card into PSA because they pop control the hell out of those cards. I have gem 10 Jordan's and metal universe 1996 with all those HOF and i can't even grade these cards because PSA will give them a 7-8-9 will never give a 10
@AnthonyGiallourakis5 ай бұрын
I've noticed a number of these "I'm quitting sports cards" videos on KZfaq lately. Time to buy singles? I think so, if you buy the right player and the right cards. The real value for me is in the Leaf Metal Draft 2022 football cards. That's a very limited print set, the cards are amazing..... and the prices are great. If you grab the right players, you will make money. 💰💰💰
@biiigsportsguy61485 ай бұрын
In 2020/21 you made money on anything. Now it’s to collect again
@jomehi68636 ай бұрын
I started collecting baseball cards in 1983 and got out of the hobby around 2001. I never thought or looked at the cards like an investment. Got back into the hobby a few years ago. Can't believe that even the flagship boxes were selling f4
@TravelingNomad1007 ай бұрын
I agree I only collect my PC guys now no more retail and no more breaks just not worth it.
@SauceCards10Ай бұрын
It’s so true I declined someone’s offer for 80 percent on my downtowns and he got mad it’s crazy how there my cards and there getting mad
@biiigsportsguy6148Ай бұрын
Yeah a lot of dummies in the hobby unfortunately
@TheyCallMe_Beau6 ай бұрын
I hope you take the 7k people who watched this video with you. So I can get back to collecting cards to 2012 prices. It’s been crazy since 2018 but the last 2-3 years, I’ve felt like you do right now.
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
It’s getting there, buyers should be happy about what’s happening for sure
@91brooklynborn5 ай бұрын
ALT destroyed the hobby. That is why I am done. Cards should not be based upon latest ebay sales. I sold my collection 4mo ago for $2,000 if I waited until now i wouldnt have even gotten half.
@biiigsportsguy61485 ай бұрын
That’s better for collectors. And I disagree I think things should be based on eBay and other platforms. It’s real time pricing, whether it moves up or down. If you own a card and it sold for $100 you don’t have to sell for that you can hold until someone pays you $115 or maybe it’ll pop if the player does well.
@91brooklynborn5 ай бұрын
@@biiigsportsguy6148 its not like that here in Florida. Ive been talking to people in the business at the Palm Beach Card Show this weekend. People are only willing to pay 80% of ALT value 😖. Noone is selling anything. Once again, this is why i got out.
@TheseRmyFatPants6 ай бұрын
Cardcollector2 does give off Harry from Home Alone vibes LMFAO
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
He seems like a little weenie spending mom and dads money
@davebolaton76396 ай бұрын
Good luck. The scammers will never leave, this is one of the few places where they are accepted and even respected.
@ElectrikNYCfunK7 ай бұрын
that's funny lol I am just starting my ebay w/ random card lots & finding the complete opposite experience, sorry to hear..... i do think the graded cards have hurt the hobby & praying raw cards get more attention again
@caolanhogeweide655522 күн бұрын
Ohtani cards have more value then the Yen! Japanese fans buying them up!
@MrJmangini7 ай бұрын
I feel the same as you albeit it from maybe a different perspective. I feel like walking away and collecting bottle caps 😂
@vintageoddballcards61037 ай бұрын
Can you make money on bottle caps? I’m in!
@RandomEsports17 ай бұрын
dont leave... i need to hear your intro...
@MrJmangini7 ай бұрын
@@vintageoddballcards6103 unfortunately only the ones with ball players on them. And I’m back already 😂
@PeterDorwin-RaysUp7 ай бұрын
Prospecting is and always will be risky. Think back to the California gold rush. 99% of the gold diggers never made a dime. The ones that made money were the ones that made money off the prospectors. Buy what is tried and true. 90’s 2000’s hof’ers. Griffey, Frank Thomas, Rickey Henderson. Always a market there. Turn and burn
@Ieatz_6 ай бұрын
oh no what will the hobby do.... lmaooo Get these old heads TF oouttta MY HOBBY
@Runelor7 ай бұрын
I agree with a lot of your points in the video. I think it's honestly a great time to be a collector right now. Like you said, you can get actual HoF autos, etc for cheaper than guys that haven't caught a ball yet. I myself this year have dedicated to collect Nascar cards as that's what I like the most. Am I going to make money off of it? Heck no. Do I enjoy collecting them? Yes of course. I just think the flippers and dealers who are trying to get money out of this hobby are ruining it. And companies love it, so the companies' quality is going downhill quickly as they pump out 50 new sets with poor quality control. And guess what? People still buy it. If you look at this hobby as a money-making opportunity, you're in the wrong hobby. I don't think sports cards are dead, I just think that flippers and dealers that are in for the money just highlight the negatives. KZfaq does as well. If you're a collector, collecting for the fun of it and buying what you want, you're in a good spot right now. I've been having the most fun in the hobby since I started collecting and the only thing that I've changed is buying single cards that I want. Just make sure to be careful with what wax you spend, and not buy any wax that don't seem like a good deal for yourself.
@KyboneАй бұрын
Some might reason that it's the people that spend a lot of time complaining online (about flippers, dealers, Panini, PSA) instead of just collecting that are giving the hobby a bad image. If collecting is someone's main motivation, then nothing is stopping them from acquiring what they want that is within their budget - plain and simple.
@JustDontPls7 ай бұрын
Prizm hobby lol 1K plus depending where you go is freaking insane and gatekepping certain cards out of blaster and mega is wild
@bobdenver71266 ай бұрын
they are mainly dropping bc of the economy less disposable income means cards drop and people don't wantt to keep buying into something that keeps dropping
@consciouswynneconcepts6 ай бұрын
One of the bigger problems we have in this space is the the older, legacy dealers are basically just memorabilia shops now. These guys are lazy because they don't even bother to learn about the players anymore. But this is not an issue with the younger streamers whom everyone seems to hate. At least those guys take the time to research the players and they keep up with multiple sports not just one specific area. The legacy guys hate streamers and breakers and constantly bash them instead of trying to learn something from them. We are our own worst enemy.
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Fair
@scottdoane32907 ай бұрын
And that`s the trading card hobby. in a nutshell, And I agree.
@waynesmith57484 ай бұрын
This is the exact same thing that has happened to the Comic Book hobby, Stupid Speculators
@jamesesslinger19767 ай бұрын
If you could of spent 100k on cards in 2018 you could have millions. If you spent 100k on rare vintage cards you could of made at least 20% in profit. Several good points you made and sorry that you had a bad experience and anything dealing with money you run the risk of it turning negative.
@Mayer_Masterpieces4 ай бұрын
It’s a shame there is a need for a voice like yours in our hobby.
@davidhager89647 ай бұрын
Salisbury was a big turn out and it was our biggest show to date$$$$$ .We broke all records
@FDLrick6 ай бұрын
New shit and greed wiped folks out...
@ObsessedCollector6 ай бұрын
Been collecting on and off for 40+ years, but it was never for the money. I love hunting down vintage cards and collections to build my sets. However, I recently stopped buying ultra modern retail and hobby. I feel we're in another junk wax era and I'd rather stick with vintage (1909-1980).
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Yeah you’re right, 99% is junk
@madhatterer19786 ай бұрын
U know that's why I just don't buy that stuff. But what u can afford.
@OmarM80557 ай бұрын
The Sports Guy Investor LMAO !!!! Is that Geoff from Market Movers...? Crazy
@ElenaMarcelino97 ай бұрын
He must have lost about $3m attempting to invest in Sports Cards
@mcmans.5 ай бұрын
@@ElenaMarcelino9 Geoff Lost Millions of His Wife's Money
@ElenaMarcelino95 ай бұрын
@@mcmans. Top bloke
@frankdemariany5 ай бұрын
Geoff is inauthentic to me. All he does is just promote his own products and services constantly.
A collector's view NOW is to purchase singles. Breaking wax is nothing but a huge gamble. Collector's have to adapt to the times. I buy vintage cards, but to see the allure in modern cards; the players are still in the game. Sorry to see you go!
@joseromero99336 ай бұрын
I feel you, I was depressed back in like 2018 I believe and I was spending anywhere from $500-3000 a month on sports cards for like 2 years I believe so I spend a lot of $ on sports cards
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, hopefully you are doing better with the finances now!
@thoel_9056 ай бұрын
Speaking of camping ..u ever heard of a guy named steve whall or something like that .i got into him back early in the pandemic stage . Got me through some tuff lockdown times . Cool dude
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
The stealth camping guy? I believe so!
@loganwaldron71086 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see it come down on the flippers so they have to go back to stocking shelves at target.
@thoel_9056 ай бұрын
Steve wallis . Awsome content. Real dude right there . Hes100!!!!! Genuine.
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Yeah he seems cool!
@renoraines63227 ай бұрын
If what I keep hearing about card shows is true I don’t see how they are worth anyone’s time. Also are there any barriers to entry in the sports card business? That would also explain the no profits.
@coreyjohns81112 ай бұрын
Geoff Wilson is not the problem with sports cards. People who dont do their own research snd are trying to use cards as a get rich quick scheme are the problem. Geoff is exceptionally rich with money to waste. But he has helped me re-think and focus what I want to collect, wants to invest in and want to flip. The problem 1000% is whatnot and breakers. Breaking preys on peoples gambling addicitions. I see guys on whatnot pay more for half the teams in a break than the hobby boxes cost. Part of me thinks that the breaker himself bidding people up and then probably cancelling the sales when its their own buy and selling the singles. Then you see breakers cancel the sales when a huge hit comes. Every big card seems to come from a breaker and it is why boxes cost so much. Like you said, breakers screaming like idiots over a $100 card when the person lost money on the break gets old and stupid.
@biiigsportsguy61482 ай бұрын
Geoff is a huge problem. The dude has a massive platform and tells people what they “should” buy. And he did it at the worst possible time while marketing himself as an investment guru.
@robertpomerhn45704 ай бұрын
So youre not buying graded vintage collections ?
@waynesmith57484 ай бұрын
Correct investors ruin every hobby
@djs84657 ай бұрын
I enjoyed that roast on your way out, I laughed, you went out with a bang! I remember I found your channel when I was watching JMac's channel and he did a big parking lot deal with you a couple years ago. I liked your card show vlogs. Thanks for the content, good luck.
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it
@crackerwax91397 ай бұрын
There's a joke in poker... "I quit, see you tomorrow."
@j.tyler20246 ай бұрын
I'd rather spend the money in a graded prewar card for 800
@biiigsportsguy61486 ай бұрын
Fair
@RJN-kv6hx7 ай бұрын
What I hate is, you have to keep buying the latest cards out because anything 3 months or older drops in value so fast.
@nickdrago73907 ай бұрын
So be smarter and buy mostly stuff that has been out for 5 years or longer.
@RJN-kv6hx7 ай бұрын
@@nickdrago7390 that’s a great point. I went and paid $3,000 for a box of 2018 Prizm hobby so I can get all those base Lamar RC’s! Thanks got the tip!
@AProfilename7 ай бұрын
That’s why you don’t buy anything. Post 1984 complete waste of time.
@AProfilename7 ай бұрын
I’ll gladly collect the same old Hall of Famer over and over and over again before I buy anything in the junk card wax error or anything in the 2000s or after what’s the point unless it’s a one01 jersey auto card just in my opinion
@eliaguayo40997 ай бұрын
I’m with you I’m even thinking about collecting vintage.
@sonnyyang51677 ай бұрын
You bring good points, but all of these issues have gotten better. So I find it odd that you’re getting out now. The main thing I see is that it’s harder for flippers. For us collectors, I prefer the market now vs 1-2 years ago.
@biiigsportsguy61487 ай бұрын
Cards will continue to decline. I’ll buy once it flat lines
@AB-ir9ov7 ай бұрын
Good video, all the best.
@anthonymcdonald31676 ай бұрын
I say don't give up you can still have fun together we can make the hobby better again Don't give up That's what they want you to do they want you to go away and if you do they win Don't let them win😢 for me I understand what you're saying very clearly and in a lot of ways you are right so pull up your bootstraps please keep giving us the information that you give us it is helpful it's needed everyone knows the good side of sport cards we definitely need to know the bad