SPORTS CARS: N/A Porsche 718 Cayman GTS vs Turbo Audi TT RS

SPORTS CARS: N/A Porsche 718 Cayman GTS vs Turbo Audi TT RS | Stig's Garage ft. Becky Evans

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Naturally aspirated or turbocharged is a question that often divides the motoring world, so in this instalment of Stig’s Garage, we have two German sports cars that both make 395bhp to battle it out on the Top Gear test track. The 718 Cayman GTS has a naturally aspirated 4.0-litre flat-six and a 6-speed manual gearbox. Its contender, the TT RS, has a 2.5-litre turbocharged five-cylinder under the bonnet. Becky reckons the Cayman is more of a driver's car but also knows the Audi has all the mechanical grip and power to take on the Porsche. Time for Becky Evans to make her predictions and let the Stig do what the Stig does best. What's your money on?
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@TJ-rd6fo 2 жыл бұрын

Lose the ridiculous music during the laps.. is the video editor even a car enthusiast? People want to hear the cars.. this should be obvious

@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын

Hi TJ. 🙏

@mclarenf1lm374 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, at least make it more quiet or add commentary instead of music

@teteakhiangte6015 2 жыл бұрын

its just yours

@LanceEJones Жыл бұрын

Preach.

@SwitchedDreams Жыл бұрын

Ikr

@gw7624 2 жыл бұрын

"Don't know if the 718 has what it takes to take on the TT"... said no one ever until this episode.

@emiliospowerballer1441 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose you mean 'said no SERIOUS driver ever'

@Notsofatamerican 2 жыл бұрын

One did lol.

@IonicMAP 2 жыл бұрын

on a damp track safe bet to say that an AWD car would have a good chance of being faster

@Schmitzelhaus 2 жыл бұрын

@@IonicMAP On this tight track i kinda doubt that you will have a big advantage with AWD, considering the additional weight. But just the fact that it´s an Audi vs a Porsche, i was really baffled why she would think, the Audi stood a chance. The Porsche gives you so much more feedback, the suspension is miles ahead for the track and just the motor characteristics are way more aggressive. 🤷‍♂️

@ShogunsDojo 2 жыл бұрын

I really like Becky but that that was so jarring to hear 😂

@SornGeorge 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that she was surprised that the Cayman is faster around a tight track than the TT.

@emilklotz6227 2 жыл бұрын

That is what happens whan they hire someone who thinks an audi is better engineered than a porsche

@navyrotc2012 2 жыл бұрын

We are talking about a manual verse auto here

@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын

Having referenced the damp track, I don’t think that was too terrible of a prediction.

@emiliospowerballer1441 2 жыл бұрын

@@emilklotz6227 Dont be that cruel ... Give her a chance. Serious car enthusiasts watch the Grand Tour.

@Pilcrepus 2 жыл бұрын

I thought so too. Same power, but the Audi has all wheel drive and is faster off the line. It also has a 7-speed automatic vs. the Porsche's manual box. I thought the Audi would have this one.

@FreddyHe 2 жыл бұрын

Why aren‘t you comparing the 4.0 GTS with the PDK to the Audi? The PDK makes that car even faster!

@itaybutavia1204 Жыл бұрын

Yes you are right

@ronin120 Жыл бұрын

THIS!!

@Speediesam 2 жыл бұрын

Wait who thought the Porsche wasn’t better than the Audi in the first place, I’m confused. The 718 comes in a GT4, what are we talking about here…..

@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын

Rambolux, this is what i call brilliant.

@lordmaster5522 2 жыл бұрын

Not a fair comparison, because the TT-RS competes with the GT4-RS. Should be RS vs RS.

@CJM1able 2 жыл бұрын

@@lordmaster5522 No it doesn’t.

@Superevilfrog 2 жыл бұрын

@@lordmaster5522 Price wise, the TT-RS slots in at the Cayman S.

@lordmaster5522 2 жыл бұрын

@@Superevilfrog true for price wise, but performance wise then it’s RS vs. RS. A TT-RS should be able to keep up very closely with a GT4-RS.

@wellsyandcars 2 жыл бұрын

The Audi just looked like it was under steering at every corner. The Porsche you could see he was balancing the rear and looked faster.

@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын

The 718 CAYMAN GTS still faster than R33GTR.

@wellsyandcars 2 жыл бұрын

Yh I am not surprised, its lighter handles better stops better. Power is nothing without control.

@TerribleUsernameAmirite 2 жыл бұрын

@@wellsyandcars hello Pirelli man

@fredbrackely 2 жыл бұрын

no shit, its a mid engine.

@SkyrimCZtutorials Жыл бұрын

That is what Audis do :D

@dennistate9951 2 жыл бұрын

We all knew the cayman was gonna be faster. Except the presenter. "I'm gonna pick the awd understeer monster over the mid-engine porsche " 🤔

@nabiln.6055 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutly no car enthousiasts was thinking that the tt rs could be faster than the cayman on a track.

@lordmaster5522 2 жыл бұрын

Not a fair comparison, because the TT-RS competes with the GT4-RS. Should be RS vs RS.

@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын

@@lordmaster5522 pricing for both vehicles might beg to differ.

@MrRandomTwat 2 жыл бұрын

@@lordmaster5522 In what world lmao

@erikw792 Жыл бұрын

@@lordmaster5522 That is one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard. In the US the GT4 RS is nearly twice the price of the TTRS. In terms of specs the GTS 4.0 is the most even. Same BHP and nearly the same weight. It also beat the TTRS in less than favorable conditions. The only thing Audi has that can compete with the GT4 RS is the R8 V10 plus. Even then it would probably lose.

@urock12201 2 жыл бұрын

I know this horse has been beat to death many times over, but it is honestly hilarious watching that Audi understeer all over the place. I rewound that tight bit around the tires three times, it was cracking me up watching him wrench the wheel and push straight on. It’s like an elephant taking up ballet.

@eze__95 2 жыл бұрын

I'm confused on why she thought that Audi was going to beat the Porsche

@Jason911_ 2 жыл бұрын

Audi is AWD, Porsche is RWD so given the damp conditions it's reasonable to think it might be quicker

@fat_biker 2 жыл бұрын

All the sexy traction & stability electronics, I expect.But if you have a racing driver who turns the electronics off the moment he or she gets in the car, they can't help :-). Also, an auto gearbox saps power & adds weight, flappy paddles or not.

@sylvaind.6786 2 жыл бұрын

@@fat_biker I all agree, except that the dct is an advantage over the manual time wise.

@fat_biker 2 жыл бұрын

@@sylvaind.6786 I don’t think it’s DCT, I think it’s an auto with paddle shift…

@sylvaind.6786 2 жыл бұрын

@@fat_biker S Tronic is a DCT

@HarryBradbury 2 жыл бұрын

Understeer in the Audi looked typically horrendous

@jojajo2707 2 жыл бұрын

ttrs is based on A3 8V Plattform from 2012. That's not comparable to new A3 8Y plattform which is great

@HarryBradbury 2 жыл бұрын

@@jojajo2707 Cool story. Still understeers like virtually every Audi pre 8Y.

@jojajo2707 2 жыл бұрын

@@HarryBradbury LOL New RS3 is officiall World record holder on Nordschleife. There is basically no understeer. You can easily go sideways due to torque vectoring. 400hp rs3 beats m2, m2 comp easily and it's even faster than 450hp M2 CS. It's a nice car and every reviewer was surprised about handling performance. Things changed a bit🤷‍♂️

@HarryBradbury 2 жыл бұрын

@@jojajo2707 Yeah, you’re not reading properly. Pre 8Y is what I wrote. Try again.

@gw7624 2 жыл бұрын

@@jojajo2707 Both platforms have a transverse I5 over the front axle, so understeer is unavoidable, even with wider front tyres and trick diffs.

@thomaslegoff4069 2 жыл бұрын

The TT oversteer on the brakes but at the moment he releases it it understeer. And it only goes straight under power. So slow braking, slow mid turn, slow exit

@brightbluesmurf 2 жыл бұрын

It beat a Lotus Evora a mid engined sports car in the damp 😂

@thomaslegoff4069 2 жыл бұрын

@@brightbluesmurf and is smashed by an alpine with 150 hp less

@brightbluesmurf 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaslegoff4069 which did the lap in the dry, point being the RS in the damp beat the Evora in the dry

@thomaslegoff4069 2 жыл бұрын

@@brightbluesmurf yes it did, but compared to other sports cars, there is still a massive difference. Then what were the tyres used with the evora? And when was it? Tyres play a lot in lap times

@fredbrackely 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaslegoff4069 because its half the weight.

@achintyaaatreya 2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised by the fact that she was surprised by the Cayman's lap time. The mid-engined balance will obviously prove helpful on a track plus if it'd been a sunny day and if the car came with PCCB,the Porsche would've been quicker still.

@kabob21 2 жыл бұрын

PCCB isn't that much of an advantage on the newer 718 GTS what with the steel brakes now having 6-piston front/4-piston rear brakes now.

@achintyaaatreya 2 жыл бұрын

@@kabob21 they usually have practice runs and test runs before the actual lap. Ceramic brakes can drastically reduce brake fade thanks to better heat dissipation.

@L3Trip 2 жыл бұрын

Good comparison. As sublime as the manual is in the Cayman if the Cayman had the PDK like the Audi did the win would have been much larger I bet.

@atlasdelmar Жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised the Stig went faster in the manual, he gets to pick and choose the gear and balance the entry and exit based on throttle input. If he had used the paddle shifters I'm sure he would have been able to get a faster time. That being said I don't really mind that he left it in sport and just let the car pick the gears for him. Still a decent lap time in the end.

@whosyourmate8292 2 жыл бұрын

Both cars sound SO good! 🤤

@NZsarge1 2 жыл бұрын

Not surprised that the Cayman was quicker, just way too much understeer in the TT, it’s a pity they dropped it from the line up before it could get the tricky diff the the new RS3 has. Going by the improvements it made to the RS3 it might’ve made the TT a considerably sweeter steer.

@isaacberry5023 2 жыл бұрын

Loving this format, great to see the old track back with a familiar face

@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын

Hope they bring this back forever.

@gerardov.9716 2 жыл бұрын

I love the size of both of them.

@ENGBriseB 2 жыл бұрын

Horrible conditions to set lap times. Hopefully bring them back later on in the Summer.

@R19Robbin 2 жыл бұрын

Great content 🔥🔥

@Maurice_Moss 2 жыл бұрын

"You can't predict" I did, Cayman is mid engined, much better sorted chassis, and probably on sticker tyres aswell- ps4s at least.

@fat_biker 2 жыл бұрын

The bit at 8:18 where she put her wellie down & carried on doing the voiceover as she was winding in almost a full turn of lock to stop it swapping ends...

@doughnuts5364 2 жыл бұрын

The electronics saved her

@fat_biker 2 жыл бұрын

@@doughnuts5364 That was in the Porsche, which doesn’t have much. And if the electronics had saved her, you’d hear it. She drifts & has a motorsport background so I’m going with car control chops…

@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 2 жыл бұрын

@@doughnuts5364 she's driven a bit kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oc2JocR9zpvZcpc.html

@lancraft 2 ай бұрын

D is damp? What letter do you use for dry?

@deepaknayakbu 2 жыл бұрын

No music during laps pls... i repeat, no music during laps!!!

@KosmicHRTRacingTeam 2 жыл бұрын

If anything, the only thing that will change with better weather would be the Porsche increasing the difference in lap times. RWD manual vs an AWD PDK. I can’t imagine they sell many TT RS given the options that are out there.

@AustinLewellen 2 жыл бұрын

That looked like a terrible lap for the TT

@patthonsirilim5739 2 жыл бұрын

probally not the fact that its damp favors the ttrs so if it was dry the cayman would have gap it even more

@marcusthestarlord4936 2 жыл бұрын

Knew the Porsch would win cause the TT is just a Golf underneath

@jojajo2707 2 жыл бұрын

A golf from 2012🤷‍♂️

@rosskj9187 2 жыл бұрын

Have you driven both? Not the same!

@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын

Oh dear the pathetic old stereotype started in about 1999 by those who couldn’t afford a TT and were stuck in their 10yr old (at the time) £3k Golf mk 3. As a serial owner of both TTs and Boxsters I can confidently say that in the “real world” of everyday driving, there’s not much out there quicker than TT RS from point to point as you can just jump in one and drive it to 90% of its ability almost immediately, whereas getting anywhere near the limits of a high revving, mid-engined RWD car requires a huge amount of skill, balls and risk that you just wouldn’t take on a public road.

@MyUtubefreak 2 жыл бұрын

A 718 Cayman GTS PDK would be faster due to both launch control and quicker shifts. Why didn't you pick that version?

@Autotypos 2 жыл бұрын

Don't u mean the Carrera S (997) on the leaderboard?? is there a 977 model?

@markdafunky1 2 жыл бұрын

The TT RS just needs a thicker rear sway bar to get rid of that understeer

@DANNY40379 5 күн бұрын

As sweet as that cayman is, for the street and winter driving, it's hard to beat that TTRS

@purwantiallan5089 2 жыл бұрын

This is interesting to watch.

@ukaszbarszcz7861 2 жыл бұрын

think Becky fits the role perfectly, glad she landed a TG gig

@Dome79nico 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@TheDonshaz 2 жыл бұрын

Pocket rockets? Theyre sports cars. The 718 is the epitome of sports car

@luispoitevin1010 2 жыл бұрын

So Porsche 718 Cayman GTS and Audi TT RS, pocket rockets???

@ronin120 Жыл бұрын

also a manual vs auto/dual clutch

@viasevenvai 2 жыл бұрын

A ‘D’ for dry. No damp. No drift. No disqualified.

@johnmthompson489 2 жыл бұрын

Why not have a cayman with PDK so they both have auto transmissions?

@streifenkarl6688 6 ай бұрын

Why they have taken an automatic TTRS and an manual Cayman for the Contest????

@yiannishayabusaofficial 2 жыл бұрын

WOW ! ! ! ! ! ! ! AWESOME AMAZING MAGICAL ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

@kilo3o3 2 жыл бұрын

Fun series

@Nicke_C8H18 2 жыл бұрын

Porsche 718 is a better balanced sportscar. TTRS is overstear in to the corner under braking and understear on exit.

@davidviner4932 6 ай бұрын

hmmmm, the Audi needed less steering inputs and seemed quicker around the track, bit odd tbh

@borderm3 Жыл бұрын

He was sawing a tree with that 718

@dtprodrive 2 жыл бұрын

The result wouldn’t change in a rematch. In fact the gap would big greater under better conditions

@vikd4292 Жыл бұрын

there are way too many tests with manual GTS.. look at the laptimes its slower than the 718 s around the track... i'm pretty sure that one had a PDK.. kind of humiliating since the 718 has the lowly 4cylinder and costs half as much used.. but it really was a fantastic car

@masterzvmmvvve9529 2 жыл бұрын

Time !?

@ZMCarsandMore 2 жыл бұрын

Drag car: Ttrs Track car: Cayman

@lewisburt3750 2 жыл бұрын

For the next season can you do a feature film on the Vauxhall lotus carlton! Like you did with the Delorean!

@LemtemPoktui 11 сағат бұрын

Lack of a AWD AND it's a manual and managed to still beat the TTRS 1.4s. With a PDK that gap will undoubtedly be more than 2 seconds easily. That my friend is the difference between a proper sports car vs a Audi A3 in a sport dress.

@goki911 Жыл бұрын

An apple to apple comparison would have been even more interesting. I.e. S TRONIC vs. PDK.

@mrmawson2438 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Becky 👌

@paulwade5853 2 жыл бұрын

It goes without saying that Audi's have no soul, they never have, they're just the fastest way to be bored.... Side note: I like this Lady, she's not trying to be something. Get her on the main show along with Jack and Chris and it'd be a million times better than watching those other 2 clueless try hards.

@dasudasd 2 жыл бұрын

I can't make sense of their leaderboard, why would a Porsche 718 Cayman S be faster than the GTS, and what difference is "Porsche Cayman GTS" vs "Porsche 718 Cayman GTS", are they comparing the base one to the 4.0 ?

@EugVR6 Жыл бұрын

Even before I've watched it, the Cayman shouldn't lose, its chassis is well beyond the TT...in the dry the gap would be even bigger.

@LetsDraw12 3 ай бұрын

Hilarious how the driver’s body language looked so bored driving that Audi compared to the Porsche 😂

@morinc75 2 жыл бұрын

A comment to feed engagement to our overlord, the almighty algorithm!

@Kingdonnerkebab 2 жыл бұрын

No launch control used on TT and he left it in auto mode for the shifts hmmm.

@erikw792 Жыл бұрын

He clearly pushes the stick over after the launch. That's manual mode. I know because I owned an A3 with the same setup.

@SuperHurtman 2 жыл бұрын

So this is why I didn't get the top gear in my feed😆

@jlwutk70 Жыл бұрын

A PDK Cayman would have been higher up the list.

@Beertje21 2 жыл бұрын

Honda for the win, still love that design

@cesaralbertobanegasmedina8427 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to stig garage

@jamieoconnor1916 2 жыл бұрын

Good woman becky fantastic work 👏

@Slingsshootingandcamping 2 жыл бұрын

I wanna be the seat belt

@sizakelecomfortmtshweni9530 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what Stig's Australian Cousin have in garage 😂😂😂

@JohnFromAccounting 2 жыл бұрын

Who is Becky Evans and how is she related to Top Gear?

@brightbluesmurf 2 жыл бұрын

Audi TT RS faster on a damp track than a Lotus Evora. I’m surprised.

@gileshorton8282 2 жыл бұрын

Lose the music. What are you thinking?.

@muddystick 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoying the series, but we've now had 2 VW group vs VW group videos and the third was VW group vs Toyota video. Enough with the VAG!

@mrmawson2438 2 жыл бұрын

I keep forgetting you are on top trumps 😂

@richardkoerper1630 2 жыл бұрын

I would take the Porshe either way.

@shaesnell3938 2 жыл бұрын

Just remember to clearly state the drivetrain of each vehicle or add it to the stats table. Though mentioned the 4wd system of the TT you never actually stated what drivetrain the Porsche has. Apart from that, I love the format, keep them coming!

@mikuelable 2 жыл бұрын

I'm hardly hearing that l5

@gentleaviator 4 ай бұрын

Cayman: Balanced genuine sport car TT: Understeer sporty car

@dm9817587 2 жыл бұрын

A second slower than older cheaper gts

@carolinerobertson4561 Жыл бұрын

I was looking at that on the board , the Cayman GTS above was a full sec faster, Im guessing thats the 2.5 T

@erikw792 Жыл бұрын

Was the track dry and was the old one a manual? The 4.0 is a superior car.

@frfsdcd 7 ай бұрын

TRIPLE CAUTION

@lollypop9580 2 жыл бұрын

"Pocket rocket" ? Really ? 😂

@RastaRider 2 жыл бұрын

5:28 Jeez that Audi has a shifter and shift boot to visually fool one into thinking it's manual! Paddles on the wheel doe. Cheers from Tampa Bay

@shahrickychannel7380 2 жыл бұрын

hi support from malaysia

@russellharris1127 2 жыл бұрын

Why do you still use the charactor the stig?? Other than the fact you own the character it was a big part of the old series

@skywalk3x 4 ай бұрын

On a track yes a mid engine Porsche is awesome. In the real world wear there’s weather, debris, and climate, the Audi can’t be beat by the Porsche. A summer car vs an all rounder it’s a no brainer. Besides even on track if your not a pro you can exploit the Audi easier than the Porsche.

@vicau6906 2 жыл бұрын

Too much understeered on TT.......Cayman flies around the track

@franzhuber7361 2 жыл бұрын

What’s a PORSCHE 977 ???

@bigb4607 2 жыл бұрын

Owned both but pdk in the 718, night and day difference between the two cars the tt feels fast but the 718 is quick far more quicker than the tt, just a corner and the Porsche is gone, shocked to see the S that slow behind as also owned one them before the gts and the 2.5 turbo even faster round a track or down A roads

@brightbluesmurf 2 жыл бұрын

It was damp and it looks like the ESP is on, on the RS, doesn’t even look like Stig was using ESP sport. Shame it wasn’t dry be a more interesting comparison

@ytytyt2516 2 жыл бұрын

Why you don't make Drag Race videos ?????

@ECTOPLASTA 2 жыл бұрын

Hola.

@juancarlosjc4888 10 ай бұрын

Even when the cayman won in time not just in driving sensations, why the hell didn't u use the pdk vs the automatic ttrs? You are comparing apples with pears 😡

@fredbrackely 2 жыл бұрын

And no-one ever drives at 9/10ths on the road. Who would notice 1.4 seconds faster driving to the bloody co-op on our shitty overcrowded roads? Add some snow, potholes, cow shit, gravel, bicyclists, death-wish scooter riding pensioners, and all you have left is the quality of the ride (Audi wins) its practically (Audi wins) its service costs (Audi easily wins) cabin luxury (Audi wins). Oh, and they both go bloody fast if you get the chance.

@MindDezign Жыл бұрын

Ah...as a Sports Car Driver. I'd always bet on the Porsche. They are " the Sports Car builders in this World since the 1950's.

@isaiahdeshazier1520 2 жыл бұрын

She isn't even my type but the way she drives makes her super attractive LoL 😂💯

@gavinsullivan9015 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting how he left in sport auto in the Audi…

@erikw792 Жыл бұрын

No he didn't. He clearly moved the shifter over at the beginning after the launch. The car will still shift up when necessary but he has the ability to downshift when he wants.

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@ShamanWS6 2 жыл бұрын

I mean................ the TTRS isn't a sports car. It has 2+2 seating. It has AWD. Those don't belong on a sports car, at all.

@alexmaiden1678 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately needs some work as a series, audio should be taken from go pro’s on the rear of the vehicle and blended in with the in car audio to make it sound better. Also for stigs laps Becky needs to be talking over it like clarkson did otherwise it’s a bit too dull. Could be fun episode but needs work.