I'm waiting for Dodecahedron Strategy

How could they do this to project rhombicosidodecahedron strategy....

That's fine, I played the demo and that game was boring as hell.

@gloomy_gus Hey it’s fun….but they just won’t stop talking. There were some real gems like the prince saying prepare an angry letter while the castle was being invaded(so soldiers told him it’s a little late for that) But we don’t need 3 consecutive opera speeches around that when I just want to actually get in the the siege battle. Maybe a Circle Strategy would’ve danced aRound that issue?

​@@why3994I was gonna say rhombus strategy, but yours is better 😂

Only thing uglier than those monkeys is karma’s aftermath.

"Hmm... Most people don't know what nfts are, and a lot of the people who do know what they are don't like them. Let's go all in! What could go wrong?'' - square enix.

That was their old president that stepped down in 2021

Noooooo, don’t encourage em to do it againnnn 😂 they attracted to that already.

​@zidanetribal1406 except the new president also invested in NFTs

We don't really know

Suicide Squad failed even harder than their failed Avengers game, I'd be amazed if that's what they're doubling down on, but I'm totally unsurprised if they did.

​@@devonwilliams5738cause when suicide squad was first announced/revealed it wasn't revealed to be a live service game yet, so the hype was still there... then they killed all that hype when it got closer to launch

I hope so. Nothing kills my interest more then the words online or live service.

@@devonwilliams5738considering WB is doubling down on live service games even after that disaster, I wouldn’t be surprised if Square kept trying as well. Keep in mind that this is the same company that has continued to pursue NFTs even after it has long since crashed and burned.

Honestly I think they can partly fix the FF remakes sales numbers by putting them on PC day one. Unfortunately with the PS5 drowning in 3rd person action rpgs with limited exploration and a huge focus on story, it’s a tough market which would be alleviated by PC players. I’d say they also need a new franchise to get people excited. KH4 isn’t bad but if they continually double down on existing franchises AAA franchises it’s just going to end badly. It’s better if they make a AA hit at a lower price because of how gamers are looking to be more cost effective rn.

This is the first time I've heard of it at all 😂

I think this is a big part of why Square Enix is having issues right now: Their marketing is atrocious. Nobody seems to even know Foam Stars exists, and now I'm wondering just how many other games they've made recently that I didn't know about.

Don't worry, I'm in the exact same boat. I thought it was going to be a summer title for this year, yet it was released 3 months ago

I literally forgot it existed until now

It's ok, game was total ass anyway.

SaGa Emerald Beyond is also fantastic, but that's Kawazu being belligerent and going "I am doing this and you cannot stop me"

I disagree only with the Pixel Remasters; most of them look worse than previous versions we already got, like the PSP versions of FF1, FF2 and FF4, and also have less content too. The re-orchestrated music is good for the most part, but everything else is subpar compared to what we've previously gotten. They could've saved a lot of money if they just ported the PSP versions instead.

@@tamerkoh Hard hard agree, the pixel remasters look like ass. I hate how oversaturated everything is, it hurts my eyes and is just aesthetically unappealing to look at.

Agreed on the pixel remasters, they look absolutely atrocious. I don't get why anyone would hype them up in any way beyond availability on modern consoles.

The DioField Chronicle is one of my new favorite in recent years but I doubt it's ever gonna a sequel now sadly.

Square enix games don't sell like that for a decade outside of a few examples and those were under their expectations

No they do sell like that. Not *all* of them obviously but that goes for EVERY game dev

It probably is unrealistic expectation, because I cannot conceive their lower budget titles not being profitable. Unless they are expecting 400% return on investment, which is flat out ridiculous. 100% to 150% is achievable and I'm sure most of their budget titles do achieve that return.

@@ElJosher They are profitable, but not profitable enough to carry a company as huge as Square Enix, specially with the losses of the bigger budget games. The thing is, their expectations may be unrealistic, but unfortunately, they are also necessary.

It's definitely a budget issue. They are so overblown that "unrealistic expectations" are kind of necessary. Keep in mind this is a problem that's affecting almost the entire AAA industry, not just Square Enix.

I expect nothing less from him, he's a great speaker/script writer.

I think it might be because we don’t actually know what happened, so he has a lot to say, but it’s very speculative.

Same, they're honestly both in my top 5 favourite games ever.

Triangle Stratgy is my favorite of the style. I was really hoping for a remake or sequel to FF tactics but ya that's not happening.

It`s tricky since the dev was bought by from software parent company

Technically, we don’t know that, but I’m inclined to agree with you that both that’s probably what we get canceled and that those games are amazing.

I haven’t played it but it looks very pretty

Clever

-_-

Now we gotta make it happen

gaming wasn't meant to be an industry

no we gotta make it not happen. we can't sit around and still buy their slop

You forgot that balloon baselworld or whatever it was called.

God I hope Platinum are doing okay after that garbage

​​@@sagepirotess6312 nobody cares about balans wonderland either lol. A shame such a dope ass character design was wasted on that garbagefire

@@rinnnnnnnnnnrinBalan Wonderworld. XD Nobody knows the name.

@@rinnnnnnnnnnrin I never said it was good. This thread was of bug budget games that flopped. I think you missed that.

Oh please, Ubisoft is terrible with overall management, EA is terrible with overall management, these guys are game industry saints by comparison.

Too many mediocre or terrible games is what cause their downfall: Babylon's Fall Final Fantasy VII: The First Soldier Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth (would had been great if they didn't attempt to bring all that multiverse nonsense into the game) Final Fantasy VII: Ever Crisis Strangers of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origins Avengers Chocobo GP (this would had been a great entry had they not litter micro transactions on it) Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy The Diofield Chronicle Star Ocean: The Divine Force FoamStars Forspoken Balan Wonderworld Kingdom Hearts Series: Cloud Edition

Don't think Square-Enix was that involved in Super Mario RPG Remake's development aside from giving Nintendo the rights for their original characters, the remake itself was done by ArtPiazza, who were responsible for the Dragon Quest remakes for the DS and 3DS

@@pablocasas5906 is artpiazza not associated with square? having previously done the DQ remakes, I assumed they were a subsidiary or something.

​@@pablocasas5906...read the WHOLE comment friend. To The Last Line.

If it weren't for the AI crap, I would love a Super Mario RPG 2, but I'm not supporting a company that relies so heavily on AI as Square Enix seems to be trying to.

@@pablocasas5906 Square Enix owns Arte Piazza. Ever wonder why all of their games are S-E IPs? S-E likely made a ton of money off SMRPG's success.

Sounds like they should fire their market speculators instead of the projects lol.

"Incredibly well" it's selling worse than XVI 😂

@@twincherries6698 A bit exaggerated. But it still got listed at 2nd biggest launch in Japan. Not worldwide. Also a lot of the initial numbers were specifically accounting for physical copies and not digital. Yes, it was beaten by 16. Still doesn’t change the fact that they expected more copies to sell than actual consoles sold.

@@twincherries6698 Its budget was likely not as big as people think given it's still on UE4 and a lot of Remake's assets were reused.

It didn’t do really well at all.

I swear, part of the problem with modern Squeenix games is the titles. Like what the hell is "Various Daylife?" That is not a title that makes me want to know more, that sounds like some Engrish gobbledygook.

Hope to god they didn't cancel any plans for Dragon Quest Monsters, but most likely are...

the leaks imply it was that NFT game that was cancelled. so i think we'll be okay

@@Nando75549 a new one just came out recently and did well. i think you're in the clear with that.

I think Darius Vanlife is one of those lifestyle yt pages everyone was sick of by about 2019 or so.

What if those were the projects that got thrown out?

Remember jumping into the latest Trend bandwagon won't make you open minded, it shows that you don't know what you're talking about, Executives loves Trend and jargon because they're clueless about their own product, they can't contribute anything because they lack the skill. they want to hog all of the credit by sabotaging the whole project and turned it into their narcissistic Trendy project the same is also can be said about AI as well

@@Dharengo I can only hope

@@mist1858 Of course, I'm not making any promises, I'm just pointing at a possibility.

Absolutely, the resource bloat not only kills budgets and schedules (which is part of why generative AI is so appealing to the beancounters), it also railroads the company, tying them to ideas that probably should have been culled or heavily reconsidered before winding up in Sunk Cost land (like Forspoken). Smaller projects might mean less "swinging for the fences", but it also means more agile ability to react to the market or even get ahead of it. There are *far* too many failed film people in games, too, trying to make the wrong sort of projects in the wrong medium. Nothing wrong with some big ideas, but games simply aren't film, and that weird fetish they have for high polycount and "cinematic experiences" doesn't really make for good *games*.

I was wondering where Arlo got hia numbers coz Octopath was a huge hit and created a cult following that went on to support Triangle Strategy and Octopath 2. If Square drops that developer I bet Nintendo will acquire it.

​@@pinoyreformat I don't think most people who liked Octopath Traveler had interest in Triangle Strategy,it's an entirely different genre. If they made it a Final Fantasy Tactics game from the first day of development, it might've done better. Unlike Octopath I, II and TS were in budget bins super quickly, even with Octopath II having a PS5 version.

​@@Kniffel101 I don't know where you're getting your numbers cause both of them sold over a million copies within the first few months of their launch date, and both were charting on sales lists in Japan in their release week. Triangle Strategy was definitely not a breakout hit and I doubt they expected it to be, but it still sold decently well and got great reviews, plus getting that Game Awards nomination didn't hurt either.

@@Kniffel101 It's weird how in general how they can't seem leverage Final Fantasy well at all. Like you said, FF Tactics 2 would've sold significantly more than Triangle Strategy and all you really needed was a name change and some added FF tropes here and there. I also find it baffling how they never made a classic style Final Fantasy that targeted the Switch. Just one game like that could have probably outsold most of their other 2DHD output combined.

​@@maharaja101I wanted this truly interesting thing. I don't want more boring FFT cash grab slop.

Me too!

its funny how square had 2 teams that are complete opposites one making banger after banger, and the other only delivering DUDs.

The thing is: It resonates with YOU. But YOU ARE but a small fraction of the current set of potential customers. You, me and most of the almost 40' persons that behave as a "audience", but not as buyers. The majority of the current market is composed of teenagers and Young adults - up to 25 years old. And this group will be the ones playing It, but not necessarily buying It - most of them will get It after It being bought by a older person that have little to none interest in games. In the 90's I was playing their games - but the one buying It was my mom (and guess what: she never tive a fuck on what I was enjoying there with the game or not, she just bought It to me) I am saying ALL this to get to this point: we need to be careful about what we desire - there is a risk we actually get It! And that IS what is happening - Square MADE what we desired, but what we desired is the exactly path to their fall; because we wish they never change and they keep developing games that please us (hence, products tailored to satisfy the expectation of a nostalgic, small and not that engaged group of persons that is not buying anymore). This occurs, but they were meant to make games that Will be bought by people that does not necessarily have to play - while the new players should be the ones yelling to the real buyers to buy It, like a kid crying or this kind of "incentive" so the parents give them money. If that was the case for Square they would be ok nowadays - being some kind of EA of RPG or anything like that. But we got what we desired and It is not as good as the nostalgia make It seems like.

FF, Dragon Quest, Chrono, Sleeping Dogs, etc. - such great franchises. Sad to see a company who is capable of great titles lose their way. Hopefully they can bounce back.

I don't get this. Square Enix makes some of the most "obviously Japanese" games around. Pretty much their entire library is JRPGs, a genre distinction that people make specifically because of how much those differ from western made RPGs. To this day you hear people complaining about how "anime" FF, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest and so on are. When I think Japanese games that come very close to mainstream western titles in style and tone, stuff like Resident Evil comes to mind not Square Enix series... Am I missing something?

You can't release a massive RPG every month. People won't be done with the last one. For Square they've almost singlehandedly saturated the RPG market themselves so they kind of NEED to make other games if they aren't happy remaining exactly the size they'd stay as the RPG only company.

I fully agree.

​@diargakande6740 no your not missing anything you just have idiots who spew shit beacuse they think they know what there talking about

i dont think they are included. they were far too cheap, and made more than enough money for square to abandon them.

don't expect much new from octopath. the devs behind it used to be owned by square but were recently bought but another company, so any new octopath games will be developed by people who didn't make the first 2 as square would still own the rights to the ip

TWEWY fans are shuddering right now

@@wesnohathas1993 twewy fans dont really have much to worry. that franchise is the baby of nomura. who got pretty high in the company. if he wanted to make a twewy game, he can. besides, they were pretty cheap to make. i doubt he will make another, since he is working on KH4. but unless he gets the boot, the chance of another twewy game remaisn the same as before.

​@@photonbreak9158weren't they bought by From software? Or was it their parent company?

irks

Omg I never thought of that. You’re right, that’s the XV team. The unrealized potential of XV will forge go down as one of my biggest gaming losses

I doubt anything Final Fantasy was affected lol

9 has been confirmed by Midori (extremely reliable leaker) to be very far along in development

Me too

even those that didnt sell that well, dont look like cost anywhere near enough to be a flop either. even games like diofield and triangle strategy look like sold enough to at least break even, if not more. live a live also seem to sell well enough, and they had good word of mouth. they arent juggernaughts, sure, but i doubt they were money sinkers either.

Square Enix also said Tomb Raider pushing 4 million was a failure so idk

@@liammcnicholas918 That's TOMB RAIDER, it don't have anywhere near the same budgets or scope. You can't compare a full AAA experience with all detail and promotion those usually get to Octopath Traveler and Triangle Strategy. You're gonna break the scale. Tomb Raider is playing in Pokemon and Uncharted territory. You gotta do numbers in the double digits for those games to even consider breaking even. Much less becoming a hit. Which is why Square deemed Octopath and such successes and Tomb Raider a flop. We're going for National/Local Champion not World Champion.

same

It's on PS Plus (or was) and is actually fun. It's popular to hate but just dont take it seriously.

I don't think it will. Considering it's very popular in Japan, I doubt they'll cancel it.

@@jaretco6423 This is very true. At most the DQ3 remake will get pushed back a bit because of SE restructuring itself and what not, but the DQ3 remake will be very easy money for SE because of DQ’s popularity in Japan.

KH3 definitely would’ve still been cloud-only in that case, and the PC releases indicate Squeenix’s technical staff wouldn’t have been up to the job of Switch ports for KH1 and KH2: those PC releases were actually done by Epic Games

@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 honestly, with the things that some developers have acomplish on the switch, a kh3 port would been pretty doable

@@ancient_debris4065 not with the level of technical expertise Squeenix’s staff has

@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 They should have outsourced the job to someone more reliable, then. I'm not willing to give Squeenix a pass on this one; it was a stupid decision to make them Cloud versions.

@@smashbrolink They did actually outsource a company to do Kingdom Hearts ports that were actually good…only for it to be KH1, KH2, and KH3 to PC by Epic Games. That’s why those ports are EGS exclusives

and i doubt they had that many projects to reach that amount anyways. this feel like them finally waking up and ditching their nonsensical focus on NFT they keep talking about(without showing anything either). nfts are pretty much dead, so i guess is, they are finally pulling the plug on that AAA level NFT game they kept talking about. now THAT is something i can see ballooning into the 100M+ range.

Imagine both.

Me too. I would love to drop another 100 hours into the series.

I'm sure we will, the series has done decently well for how niche it is

even those games, i feel like sold well enough to not be considered flops. most of them was also well reviewed. and did not cost anywhere near as much to produce either. they may not be breaking the million threshold. but i do think they did at the very least paid for themselves. specially since most of them are avaliable in multiple consoles.

dragon quest is too culturally important to Japan for it to have gotten the axe this easily imo

Wow, what a callback. I forgot about those!

@@QuantumConundrum Im really hopeful for something Ogre Battle to come out since we got the Tactics Ogre Remake two years ago, and Unicorn Overlord (which is very similar to the Ogre Battle games gameplay wise) seems to be selling pretty well.

I bought the remake, but alas I fear that if any game were to be canceled it would be a (hypothetical in development) game like that, or a possible new Front Mission. An old title coming back that didn't really move any big needles, is probably gonna be evaluated as "lacking appeal" or something like that.

@@goranisacson2502 it makes no sense for them to cancel those, as they are too cheap to produce in comparisson with the amount of money they make. pretty much the vast majority of those single and double As games they have released had, at the very least, good reception and sales enough to pay for themselves and a bit more.

Honestly octopath is a good name triangle strategy yeah bad name

Just watched the final trailer for some ideas... Triflame Tactics was the first thing that came to mind. Or Tridom: Wayward Flames.

Octopath is a good an succinct name, Triangle Strategy isnt the best.

I like Octopath because it gets the point across and let's you know what kind of game you're getting, Triangle strategy though? Lol

You’re probably on to something here. A lot of their smaller titles felt (on the surface) a little bit samey. Maybe they could have eased up

What? Most of there game never makes it to the mainstream anymore. Lucky if anyone knows what there doing

The double down on final fantasy 7 content has really bothered me. They decided to split the remake into 3 parts, they remade crisis core and that's not including the mobile nonsense they've been pushing out in-between. Not gonna lie... Kinda sick of final fantasy 7.

@@BlaizeTheDragon I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s more than a trilogy tbh. Like 4 + epilogue game

@@scratch7971 Nah, but they'll probably remake the Advent Children movie and/or make a DLC Epilogue of it's story.

To prove your point, I hadn’t even heard of it. I had to google it after reading your comment.

Rebirth NEEDS to release on PC this year if they want to revitalize hype around it. Even as a clear GOTY contender to me, if there aren’t enough people that can experience it it’ll never have a chance at that pedigree. SE could certainly use that accolade these days

@@extra4542 exactly

forspoken? sure, but avengers at least made some money. it probably got, at least, close to paying itself back. since it did sell well enough for forbes to talk about it in a positive light.

​@@marcosdheleno just making a profit is not nearly enough in this industry. It was an Avengers live service game dropped at the height of Marvel hype. By all accounts it should have been a smashing near billion dollar success, and it didn't even make the top 10 in sales in 2020

The issue is that only once had a timed console exclusive payout deal had its number known to the public, and that was that Nintendo paid Capcom $15m plus free marketing on thier end for Monster Hunter Rise back in 2018 hot off the release of World. Sony likely didn't pay Square enough to cover much of Rebirth's budget, they also could've given Square money for a multi-game deal thai included Rebirth which would be less then doing each game individually, keep in mind Squarehad put out 5 Playstation console exclusives since FF7R1 and with at least one more confirmed, Sony likely at least did the deal for all 3 parts of the FF7 remake trilogy at once. Square likely spent at least $150m (though $200m is more likely) of thier own money to make and market FF7R2, 4 year long dev cycles for a AAA sized game isn't cheap. Considering they make only ~$40 and $49 on physical and digital copies sold at full price respectively, FF7R2 is still a long way from profitability and will need a steam port ASAP with good word of mouth to turn a profit. It's a similar case with FF16 too. I would totally expect part 3 to have it's budget and scope reduced significantly in order to help it be profitable, because it will likely sell even fewer copies.

​@@1originalaccountnameI think part three will sell more than 2. Higher install base and such. But part 1 has a big sales surge after 2 came out. So there's a lot going for it.

those games were huge succesfull games tho, i really hope that Square is just cutting the stuff that really suffered loses and are started by their previos crypto bro CEO.

@@juasjuasi4750 I'm betting it's probably more on the other side of Enix that got sold off. Like he mentions with foamstars and the games that makes you wonder why Square is on the box somehow. Plus if their aiming at the 2.5HD games then man is the DQ 3 Remake fucked

The original still holds up, tho... How will this differentiate?

Does it need to?

Funnily enough, some of the Final Fantasy VII Remake and Rebirth development staff said they'll love to remake VI in the same scope as VII, but they admitted it would have to have an even higher scope compared to VII and it would take even longer While I'd like that every Final Fantasy would get the same love and care in regards to a remake compared to VII, I think S-E overdid it and honestly an HD-2D remake of VI would be great, though I think we should wait until the Dragon Quest III HD-2D remake arrives to see how they would tackle VI (PS: I'm aware of the Live-A-Live remake)

Honestly, if they remade FF6 the same way they remade FF7, I wouldn't be interested. It's too different. I just want the game I love, but with an updated presentation. Kinda like FF4 DS.

Personally I would prefer xenogears 😅

Uh oh. When’s AI gonna join the dumpster fire?

Fewer projects :)

@@DuckAlertBeats No. They are not speaking in proper English. I'll write them that way when they make a few more sensible decisions.

Best 2D platformer ever. Where would you rank it?

DKC2 better imo

@@twincherries6698 That one is, indeed, amazing.

thank you for this comment!

Could be that the editor hasn't played the game and doesn't know it's a spoiler

In his defense, I think this was in the final trailer and I don't think he knew it was towards the end

The only Rebirth footage shown was trailer footage.

@@RedheadButNotReally it is, but the final trailer had endgame stuff in it

Asano, the guy in charge of all those Switch games literally got promoted to a board member.

Hopefully not, considering those mid-budget games coming to Switch are the ones that are performing well enough (Octopath Traveler, Bravely Default). It's the AAA/AAAA games with underwhelming sales (Forespoken, FF16, FF7R) that is hurting the overall company.

​@@chasemiller3712this has nothing to do with ff7r

@@ausgod538 babylons fall dont forget about that trainwreck oh and foamstars i guess.

switch support is not ending, it is literally the most popular console in japan, a market that loves these low to mid budget games. They would be stupid to not support it. Also, these mid budget games are definitely making SE profit.

yep. i also think this is their way of saying they are canceling whatever NFT project they were making. since they did anounce that they were working on some AAA level NFT game. which was also a live service(for obvious reason). those things arent cheap to produce. being MMO-lites. the cost could easily reach the 100M.

@@marcosdheleno I don't know if that's the case but I certainly hope it is.

He had a podcast before, and he did like 18 episodes. It was called ArloCast. He also had a PatreArloCast exclusively for Patreon supporters, but I don't know if he still does that.

Same here. I've put about 500 combined hours into them. Mods go a long way to increase playability.

Maybe if they'd stop wasting money on bloat positions like their entire Ethics Board.

​@@HenshinFanaticnah now people are gonna call you an incel for even considering it

@@HenshinFanatic What a stupid comment.

​@@HenshinFanaticI wish.

To be fair Hollow Knight is a rather small game in terms of assets and gameplay mechanics. Especially if you exclude all the DLC (which you should if you're going to say the crowdfunding campaign was the entire budget). That works fine for a metroidvania, but a JRPG really needs to have a lot of content.

@@VitalVampyr That's true, of course. Mostly I just think about how many lower budget games they could be funding if they wanted to.

@@VitalVampyr people also forget that the original FF7 was one of the most expensive games ever made for the longest time. and that was back when money had a much bigger value as well.

I would love a sequel as well.

Front Mission 3 Remastered too probably and this is infuriating. You have to be pretty dumb to remake the inferior 1 and 2, be surprised they didn't sell enough (you didn't need to be Sherlock Holmes to realize they wouldn't), and proceed by cancelling the masterpiece that is 3 and that fans were waiting for. I've never seen a company be ran by such monkeys. And now, because their experimentations like Octopath, Triangle Strategy, etc were subpar because they completely forgot about things like pacing and having to grab the player in the first few minutes, they will probably just copy what sells. Say hello to more button-mashing called FF.

My weak heart...

@@armorvilTS and OT are subpar experiments?? But they have dedicated fan bases that you can see in this common section right now, and they were both financial successes due to their smaller budgets. You might not like them, but that doesn’t change that many do and that they did make money.

There's also the worry the deaths of the main music composer and lead character artist/designer affected things... We don't know if they did all that was needed before they passed

@@SorcererLance Yeah, I suppose there's that element of it as well. The character designs I'm not too worried about, because I feel like the principal character designs would have been a fairly early development thing. Also there's always Toriyama's team at Bird Studio and the longtime Dragon Quest artists at SqEnix to fall back on. The music on the other hand I doubt made it very far along, seeing as Sugiyama passed away mere months after the initial reveal of DQ 12. I know Sugiyama had a protege of sorts in Hayato Matsuo, but I think most of his body of work has been in the form of arrangements, not compositions. There are other composers out there who could probably fit the bill, though. Manami Matsumae comes to mind, who I thought did a pretty good job composing for Dragon Quest Swords. I guess we'll just have to wait and see who they're able to find, but I can guarantee you Sugiyama will not be the only credited composer on DQ 12 (and most of the Sugiyama tracks will be legacy music and not new compostions).

@@SeafoamSmiles unfortunately, recent official news revealed the opposite turned out to be true; Sugiyama already had all the music done, but Toriyama's art designs were left unfinished.

@@SorcererLance This is going to be a bit of a long reply, and I apologize in advance. lol I assume you're talking about that post on Reddit that got a lot of traction recently. The original poster has since edited their post to adress the fact that the article they linked was from 2 months ago (on the day Toriyama's death was announced), so it's not exactly new information. Also, and I don't know if the original poster can read Japanese and can translate the text of the article better than Google can, but when I clicked through to the article to read it for myself using Google's page translate I saw nothing in the body of text that explicitly stated that Sugiyama finished his work, or that Toriyama did not. The Reddit poster's summary of the article is a bit misleading. Here's a copy paste from the article as it relates to Sugiyama (via Google Translate): "When Koichi Sugiyama passed away in September 2021, it was said that the composition for Dragon Quest 12 was Sugiyama's last work." Personally, I don't interpret that as, "He completed his work before his death". I read that as, "This is the last project he contributed to". It doesn't actually say whether the soundtrack was completed or not. And here's a copy paste from the article as it related to Toriyama (via Google Translate): "The company said it would refrain from providing detailed answers regarding Toriyama's involvement in the development of Dragon Quest 12 and the impact of Toriyama's death on development." This feels more like a Japanese respect thing where you don't comment on the guy's work immediately after his death (remember, the article is from March 8th). Is it possible he still had contributions to make, sure. But I don't read that as a confirmation either way. It's literally the company saying, "We're not going to talk about him right now".

I don’t think Dragon Quest 12 has been canceled. It’s one of the last guaranteed money goose square Enix has left, but restart on development could be possible. The bigger thing I’m worried about with DQ is does it still have the cultural dominance in Japan it once had, considering it’s been so long since 11. The series is really not that popular in the west, so if they start losing the Japanese audience, it’s kind of dead in the water.

No hd is just console games

Jesus Christ seek the spaghetti monster in the sky seek help go to therapy smoke some zaza become chill just chill tf out

@@darkmaster4868 i want to have his flurry blue babies

It also makes Sqaure more complicit. Now, they're more likely to dig their heels in and refuse to try new things. They'll feel justified in not making games with dark skinned poc because of this reaction, when it should be incentive to make more and weed out the undesirables in your fanbase.

There's already a perfect model for a successful female led RPG - Nier Automata. If Forespoken appealed to the Square audience in the same way, I'm sure it would have sold great. Instead it has the air of trying to pander to inclusivity