SRAM Maven Brake Review | The Hope V4 Killer

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Күн бұрын

So here is my brief review of the Sram Maven brakes. I will continue to give my thoughts on them in future videos so stay tuned for that. I have a new GoPro so footage should be better than ever once I work out the wind noise.
Thanks for watching!
Dale Stone's Maven video: • The Big Red Disappoint...
Chapters:
0:00 Why No Longer The Hope V4's?
0:55 Why Maven Ultimate Expert Kit?
2:03 First Thoughts
2:44 First Ride
3:32 No Snow = Real Testing
5:51 Review and Thoughts
7:04 Lever Feel
8:01 Whats Next?

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@trillbill9378 2 ай бұрын

Nice explanation of your first impressions. Big up for seemingly keeping it real on all aspects of the brakes. You and Dale are the only two people I've heard talking about these brakes that sound genuinely honest. Solid trail speed as well mate! Subscribed 👌

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! Appreciated

@BerryHimselfff Ай бұрын

Such a great video mate , so glad your having a Rippa time over there , we miss you , enjoy ❤

@taol8258 2 ай бұрын

Love my hope tech 4s but agree that the rear feels softer and requires many bleeds to get all the air out of the caliper. I basically ride then bleed and repeat until they feel firm. Also hopes are infamous for the pad squeal even in dry conditions. If i ever get tired of these brakes I'll try out the DH Evos.

@TastyGnocchi 2 ай бұрын

The start of the song at 3:35, I thought that was you making the honking with the brakes lol I became a part-time trail bard with my noisy codes

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

That was my brakes making that noise. They might make a little noise when they’re completely cold but as soon as I get going on a trail they shut up pretty fast

@enriquelahozlahoz6220 20 күн бұрын

Be careful if you install them yourself, they have a manufacturing defect that means that the pistons have to be lubricated very well since the gasket is very tight and they do not move back as quickly as they should, apparently the defect disappears after massaging several times the brake pistons.

@francisyockey8225 Ай бұрын

Those brakes look like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

Definitely not the nicest looking brakes on the market, part of the reason I’m not stoked to have a sram component🥲 I loved the look of the hopes, how they were cnc machined and you could see and feel all the cnc lines.

@owlpromtb Ай бұрын

What are your thoughts now that you been riding them in PNW? I'm headed up in a few weeks and wondering how they perform in those condition. Did you run the Sintered pads right out of the box?

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

Yeah I put the sintered in straight away. They’ve been good, you can definitely notice the difference in power when they’re cold and once they’ve got a little heat into them but it’s nothing out of the ordinary. Apart from that they’re like any other brake. Sometimes noisy in the wet and work perfect in the dry

@ianbrown2336 Ай бұрын

I'm building a bike and I ordered the maven ult in black with 200mm f/r

@fabio82 Ай бұрын

Li monterò tra qualche giorno su Orbea Wild prima avevo gli hope tech 4v su una Rocky mountain altitude. Ho paura con i maven di un effetto on-off ! Oppure sono molto progressivi come gli hope? Grazie

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

English?

@fabio82 Ай бұрын

@@reubenvandendool I'll mount them in a few days on Orbea Wild before I had the 4v hope tech on a Rocky mountain altitude. I'm afraid with the maven of an on-off effect! Or are they as progressive as the hope? Thank you

@hobart-zl8fh 2 ай бұрын

What front light are you using?

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

Cleanskin Unite 1800 lumen. I’ve got one on my bars and on my helmet

@razorree Ай бұрын

what about just Shimano Saints ?!! the only brake you need (or 4-pot XT). I've got rid of Srams on ALL my bikes.

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

I ran them from new a number of years ago. I loved them. They were more consistent then the hopes and had not loads of power - probably why many World Cup and EWS/EDR riders still run then after so many years. Mine just felt pretty average after 3 or so years of using them so that’s when I moved to the hopes for something different

@ZeBiscornu Ай бұрын

Eddy Van Halen brakes ! :)

@dragosvestemean4229 Ай бұрын

with the weight and outdated brake lever design and caliper from sram, it not killing anything, just a decent brake design:)

@Magoo71 Ай бұрын

I love everything about SRAM except their brakes! I use Hope Tech V4's and truly love everything about them...How the adjust and how they mount and so easy to bleed them....They should never need "Re-Bleeding! The Hopes also bleed and set up very nicely & very easily. I don't like the looks of the new Sram Levers or Calipers... I'll stick with my V4's

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

Yeah I love the adjustments and the clamping system but can’t agree on the bleeding process. That said I enjoyed using them and the way they felt most of the time. The inconsistency ruined it for me in the end

@Magoo71 Ай бұрын

@@reubenvandendool When you use the Hope Tech Master Cylinder cover (AKA The Front or Rear brake lever) and the reservoir cup that screws into that cover. You fill the reservoir cup half way or so. Then you flick the lever 6 or 8 times until the bubbles stop appearing ...you now have bleed the brakes to their fullest performance! Easy Peasy. You Tube has a Hope Tech video on bleeding their brakes...it's a great watch!

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

@@Magoo71 done that many times. Helped the brake feel good for a week or two maybe and then it would slowly go spongey again

@Seebema 2 ай бұрын

You might want that 180 back

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

Haha unlikely

@fabsmf8 2 ай бұрын

Great video. My theory with the lever feel is they made it hard as a safety feature as they're so strong. Would suck if you clipped a light branch with a brake lever with such power. How you like the Zerode?

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

Haha fair. I would love it if they felt like a Hayes dominion lever. The zerode is amazing. Been on one for number of years now and won’t ever be riding a derailleur bike again

@riggedupgaming Ай бұрын

you use grip shift? thats interesting can you tell me why?

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

I ride a Zerode with a pinion gearbox

@0Brix_ Ай бұрын

Lewis lht pls

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

Find someone to send them out and I’ll test them😂

@ethanrevitch Ай бұрын

I’ll swap calipers with you lol.

@riggedupgaming Ай бұрын

why don't companies make 6 piston brakes? I mean we went 2 piston, then 4 piston, so why not more?

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

Good question. No doubt the big companies have tried them but not produced them

@jonathanparkes694 15 күн бұрын

hope mono 6

@a8f235 2 ай бұрын

If you go and read the review over at Vital mtb of these brakes, they mention something that you may want to look into: *_- However, the Mavens do have an extra step now, which requires a few cycles of the pistons to get things primed and set into place. The initial setup requires two to three cycles of the pistons through their full range of motion to help the two-step seals settle into place and center. I made the genius decision of ignoring this step on my initial setup and can confirm it is necessary. After referring to the troubleshooting portion of the owner's manual, I slotted two brake rotors into the caliper, cycled the pistons until they made contact, and then spread them back to the open position a couple of times. After this exercise, my experience was night and day, and I finally experienced the light lever throw and full power the Mavens were designed to have._* I'm sure Dale Stone also missed this.

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

Interesting. I’ll have to give that a go and see if it does anything for me

@coastqr5123 Ай бұрын

@@reubenvandendool Did it work?

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

@@coastqr5123 haven’t tried yet

@coastqr5123 Ай бұрын

@@reubenvandendool Ok thanks, I will definitely be watching when you will! I would also recommend trying Hayes Dominion A4

@DaleStone Ай бұрын

I performed the massage, and it made no difference. 🙂

@matthewbrown2055 Ай бұрын

I heard someone describe them as agricultural 😂😂😂😂

@kingflynxi9420 2 ай бұрын

If/When hope make a tech 5, it should use mineral oil imo. I've got the tech 4 e4 and they've got buckets of power until it rains (using organic pads) I've tried other brake brands and I have XTs on my eBike, but I broke my wrist in August and I don't think I'd have been able to ride anywhere near as much with my reduced grip strength and dexterity without the feather light activation on the hope lever. Also I have a tip for keeping the fresh bleed feel longer. When you bleed them, you need to back out the BPC screw so that it's not pushing on the master piston at all. That way the whole system has as much fluid in it as possible and there's no room for air and moisture to absorb into the DoT fluid. This is the same with the XTs and Saints actually, the free stroke screw has to be backed out for the bleed to stay consistent.

@reubenvandendool 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I did your tip from the start. May have helped but definitely didn’t solve any issues. I’m thinking I maybe had a slightly dodgy connection at one end of the hose but I’ve also heard of World Cup racers getting their hopes re bled every few runs at a World Cup. Sus.

@kingflynxi9420 2 ай бұрын

@reubenvandendool I had to send my front off for warranty because the master cylinder had a leak, it's been fine since I got it back, I know some of the earlier batches of tech 4 levers had a QC issue. I still wouldn't buy any other brake though, if I was building my e-bike from the ground up it would have had v4s on.

@BryenWilliams Ай бұрын

😅. Sram brakes are all the same. Thanks for this. Dale’s video is a Karen edition of weak hands

@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын

Yeah they really are. I wouldn’t put these anywhere near the same level as the code R or those lower level brakes, they are definitely the best they make and are built with quality. But I’m not sure about all the extra arm pump he was getting. Maybe he struggles with arm pump more, I don’t really get it at all so I haven’t yet noticed any extra soreness or fatigue using these. They’re just a powerful and slightly more quality RSC.