Thanks for listening and weighing in. I hear those properties of each compressor as well.

I like both. I don't have the AMEK but I do have the Lindell 80 and the Focusrite consoles (both Neve). I've experimented with Neve on channels for pulling out certain colors and then using the SSL 9000J to finish. The sound I'm getting can't be done singly with either. It's like the Neve has all this impressionistic beauty but behind a slightly foggy glass. Put the SSL on? And the glass is wiped. "Oh... those colors are now in technicolor!" It's the only way I can describe it. We are in very fortunate times.

@@Tyrell_Corp2019 Nice description of the changes that you are trying to achieve by using both. I can see what you mean.

Thanks for commenting!

From A I liked the "glue", everything seems to be more blended together and from B I liked the opposite, the separation and edge of every instrument. I think B for guitars and drums and A for the rest. Both mixes seems to do its job with just a different flavor. Thanks for the comparison!

Nice observations. Thanks!

both were good. ssl was rounder in the lows and amek was punchier in the lows. the opposite of how you percieved it. Might come down to port tuning of our speakers and acoustics really :P

@@DJayFreeDoo ha ha that’s quite funny indeed. Thanks for listening!

I prefer A! I think the B has a better stereo image but I hear a more boxy sound, (around 600-700 hz) which I don't like, especially on the lead voice. Greetings from Argentina!

You are welcome. Glad it was useful!

Thanks for listening and providing your input!

Good observation. Thanks for commenting.

@@LanewoodStudios Thank YOU for doing these videos! Really great concept and execution!

@@zachary963 thanks!

Well balanced assessment 😁. Thanks for listening!

Thanks for your extensive input and observations. And happy new year too!!

Yes I hear that the same way. Thanks for listening.

Yep compared to an amek the 9000 j will sound dark remember it's a 1995 console the amek is a 2001 console if we're talking about the 9098(i) or 1998 if it's a normal 9098.

Glad the downloads were helpful.

Thanks for listening 👍

Yes, I do like SSL for drums as well. Thanks for listening.

Thanks for listening. 👍

+1

Yes I feel it the same way. Thanks for listening/watching!

Yes the cubase vs favorites video took quite a while to prepare so thanks for appreciating that. And I obviously think my favorite plugins are worth it but good to get it confirmed 😉😎. By the way, I think you wrote this comment under the wrong video but glad you watched this one as well 😁😋.

@@LanewoodStudios I realize that now. Sorry! 😀

@@mikemccormick1624 no problem 👍

Thanks for your input.

Yes that’s exactly how I use them. I prefer the SSL on drums.

I really like using the Amek 9099 on guitars to make them sound wider and more wider and the 9000J on Vocals, but I've used the 9099 for really focused and cleaner sounding vocals. Both are AWESOME!

^ I meant wider and more focused 🎸

@@chriswaltonmusic yes it’s great n

Good tips for when to use which channel, thanks!

Thanks for listening!

Excellent!

Thank you 🙏

Thanks for listening and providing your feedback and interpretation of the mixes. I tried to go for a similar sound in both mixes without trying to make them sound exactly the same in a scientific way (measuring the same curves and all). In that respect the Amek mix represents my “vision” for the mix best.

@@LanewoodStudios AMEK was immediately my preference. It felt more intense and "moved me" more. But I can easily imagine how some artists might prefer the sound of the SSL mix.

@@BigBoysStudios yes me too. If you look at the other replies, many viewers did prefer the SSL mix.

@@LanewoodStudios Yes I see that. Each to their own :-) I guess the skill is knowing what each tools gives you and being able to use those tools effectively ... and therefore being able to take the music in the direction that best serves the song, and best aligns with the vision of the artist / customer.

@@BigBoysStudios yes, exactly!

Yes!!

Maybe clarity not right word but I preferred the top end

@@Proofofart great, thanks for listening!

Thanks for your input.

You bet!

Thanks for listening and the English is great!

@@LanewoodStudios :)

Thanks for listening!

Thanks for listening again! That's the SSL mix by the way.

Ok, I have never really tried the hardware myself.

I don’t think the price of these plugin differs very if at all at this point.

Thanks for commenting!

Thanks for sharing!

I did push both plugins a bit more than default via the THD control on the top right. To bring out their individual characters a bit more already. But you could push it even more of course.

Thanks for listening!

Good advice and I hear it very much the same.

Yes it does sound wider.

Thanks! No I haven’t checked that one yet. It’s only just released.

We still care 😉

Thanks for listening!

Yes on mobile it might be hard to hear a difference. Try on monitors or download the files for a more detailed listen. I'm Dutch 👍.

Well I wasn't really trying to make them sound as similar as possible. But when hearing the kick without processing, I know what I wanted to change and tried that with both plugins. The results for Amek and SSL still came out different. and it was like that for all parts of the mix.

@@LanewoodStudios my point is: ultimately unless you try both yourself... There is no way to compare them. I might like mix A better... Doesn't mean that plugin B is crap. It just mean I liked your mix decisions using plugin A better.

@@spikewilliamz8803 ah yes, got you!

Thanks for that 😉.

@@LanewoodStudios are you still rocking with the 9000j or or amek? Or have you found any better ones?

@@ISaudio if you’re talking channel strips it is these two along with the BB N105 by KIT plugins.

Thanks for weighing in.

Thanks for listening and weighing in!

@@LanewoodStudios Thank you my friend 💯🙌🏼

@@LanewoodStudios Also, does processing need to be applied, or fet he color/sound of the console?? Asking because I have the BBN105 v2, and I love those Eq's, and I would the love to use the 2 consoles in combination if possible

@@payso1382 I have that one as well and would just use the color of that EQ then. Especially when you use a bit of the saturation you get the console color. Same goes for the PA consoles, just upping the saturation on all channels should give a bit of the console color. Might still do a video comparing the BB to one of these consoles.

@@LanewoodStudios That would be incredible, and the comparison should be between the BBN105 V2, and the AMEK9099😍🙌🏼🙌🏼🎉

Yes the differences are so small that you probably need some other platform to hear them.

Thanks for listening!

Thanks for listening!

Not sure what you mean. I used maste bus processing from these plugins as well.

@Lanewood Studios So like when I first started using the SSL channels from waves I thought that they were trash and couldn't figure out for the life of me what the big deal was but I was just using them with the master bus and no aux/sends,comp,la3a, Uries,lexicon and so fourth. So I didn't touch them for like a year. Then I learned how the actual console was to be used with outboard gear fx sends suming and so forth for mixing. I realized one can record on them in a fairly dry pass just gain staging and basic comp and then it can be mixed all the processing and then mastered. Like in three stages of production you know? It seems to me that Rubert Neve intended a certain flavor to be brought out in the final production that on would really be able to truly appreciate until that compression and other effect bring it out. Then your like wow I not only can hear it but it even stimulates my taste buds and syliva glands. So I always mixed with a little master bus and an my mastering chain. It's so enjoyable. 😏

@@chrism4762 yes I apply those 3 levels of production as well, in separate steps though. I can understand how mastering e.g. can bring out certain qualities in a mix that you may only appreciate after that final step. To me it is also useful to compare just a single step though with the different tools that are available and that is what I tried to do in the video 😃.

Thanks for listening.

Yes both can be used to create great mixes but they do provide a bit of a different basic sound that you may prefer. Especially when you listen to what they do on the individual instruments. One of them may just be more to your liking. In the old days, recording on a Neve and mixing on an SSL was quite common. And there was a reason for that. As for the consumer side, yes nobody cares but this channel is for the “nerdy” engineers 😉.

@@LanewoodStudios Nerds Rock !!

@@ghuinink 👍😂

@@LanewoodStudios Nerd power! 🤘

Thanks for your input!

Thanks for listening.

Thanks for listening!

Great video, great plugins, i’ve got 9000j but mix b is more tridimensional and precise for mine ears

Thanks!

I typically use SSL on drums actually.

Maybe download the tracks to see if you can hear a difference without KZfaq compression.

Thanks for your input 😁.

Thanks for listening!

Thanks for listening!

Not everybody agrees with you if you check the comments 😅.

@@LanewoodStudios Dude, open your eyes, 80 percent here for Amek...

​@@sevchyk ha ha .... ok you counted them ;)

@@sevchykI did a community poll at the time and the results were: Amek 9099 mix --> 22%, SSL 9000J mix --> 33%, I couldn't tell the difference --> 44% But the comments may be different .. did you count? ;)

@@LanewoodStudios No, gross observation. You see, everyone talks something like “I got instantly captivated by the sound of Amek, it has more life”, bla bla bla. That basically means that for this mix you can throw away the other plugin.