STABmons Just Banned Pecharunt, But Why?

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Hey! Hope you all enjoy this took a long long time, next video will probably be about Random Battles and it's multitude of sibling metagames as I've recently fallen into that rabbit hole. Thanks for watching!
- Chapters -
0:00 - What is STABmons?
0:28 - Quick interesting Niches
1:48 - The Araquanid Effect
2:28 - Berry(?) of the Show
5:13 - But why not Rage Fist?
6:50 - Yet Last Respects is?
7:14 - Why They Ban Pokemon (not moves)
7:32 - Thanks for watching!
7:42 - The Rest (spungbob)
8:38 - Subscribe (pls)
- Stuff -
STABmons Just Banned Pecharunt, But Why?
Pecharunt is the newest (UU) Mythical Pokemon introduced shortly after the Indigo Disk DLC, and in this video I discuss exactly why it was banned, as well as a few other topics relating to it, from the STABmons tier :)
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@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Sorry for the wait! (Been playing Fallout New Vegas lately after the show came out) Hope you all enjoy, and definitely go try STABmons if you haven't it's super fun :)

@igobyalyx Ай бұрын

10x more based for binging NV, loving the content lately :]

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much, never fully beat the game as a kid so now I'm trying again, loving it so far lol :)

@webbowser8834 Ай бұрын

While on principle I agree that move bans should be rare and that ability to use unique moves is part of what makes stabmons unique, I am glad that last respects was banned. Nobody needs to deal with that move, it's just dumb. If it's too good for ubers it's def too good for any OM save for maybe BH.

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

I entirely agree with this, Rage Fist is unique as it encourages a whole other style of play for many Pokemon, you'd never play Decidueye in mind as a defensive offensive sweeper, but due to Rage Fist, it's a very potent option. Last Respects doesn't make anything more interesting, it's simply just the ability to have a base 250 powered STAB move that encourages your team dying lol

@MettanAtem Ай бұрын

Rage Fist rewards a Pokemon for enduring multiple attacks. Last Respects rewards a Pokemon for not being sent out first.

@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 29 күн бұрын

If you think it's too good for ubers uhhh skill issue get better

@TrulyAtrocious Ай бұрын

How the fuck did the ghost/poison pokemon with the best poison move and best ghost move get banned from stabmons Edit: why the fuck is rage fist allowed

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Every ghost pokemon gets those moves, same as how so many Pokemon get so many powerful things, like Ogerpon Wellspring with Jet Punch, or Volcanion with Water Shuriken. You have to remember with a Metagame like this that the power level is much higher than OU. Hence why I also talked about how very similar pokemon to Pecharunt, like Skeledirge, do not thrive as it does, even alongside Tera and Curse support to mimic Coil, making it an interesting case of how a pretty bad Pokemon marks out an overwhelming niche in this Metagame Also to answer your question Rage Fist is allowed as there are not many supporters for it that work well. Dragapult being banned limits one of the few physical ghost attackers. And not many Pokemon can tank the powerful moves inside of STABmons, as I described in the video. Also as I described in the video as why it's not banned but Last Respects is.

@thefreshvince879 Ай бұрын

just use eviolite haunter bro

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Virgin Decidueye VS Chad Eviolite Haunter

@TrulyAtrocious Ай бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased yeah I saw the video it makes sense in the end but still

@appointmenteer Ай бұрын

this is fascinating! i love learning about weird competitive pokemon tiers, and you do a great job presenting the information. good video

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed :)

@raresuwako6796 Ай бұрын

Me and the homies walking up with choice specs Origin Pulse Mega Launcher

@heatedgeswordsucks Ай бұрын

but araquanid was mainly banned because of tail glow since it has water shuriken

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

You're actually right, I remember writing that part of the script and thinking I was forgetting a move or a set or something, but that's true yeah, thanks for clearing that up sorry for that

@Neji-XIV4306 Ай бұрын

You're awesome for being the only Pokémon player that covers OMs on youtube

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Tysm! I really enjoy OMs and have always felt there was a lack of content on them, glad you enjoyed :)

@LRXC1 Ай бұрын

It’s really surprising how LITTLE coverage OM’s and Petmods get on KZfaq

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

It is, especially given the interesting landscapes many of the tiers have for what's good, like Sylveon being one of the most defining pokemon for generations in STABmons or The Losers Metagame where you literally just try and lose the fastest (Explosion and Self Destruct are banned) and avoid your enemy losing by healing them up, it's surprising the lack of coverage these Metagames get, especially during droughts for competitive pokemon where new things aren't coming for a long time

@LRXC1 Ай бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased there is 100% a niche out there for someone to take on petmods specifically IMO

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

This is definitely true, might actually look into some myself now

@BucketsnG10ves Ай бұрын

I used to use a similar strategy in generation 7 monotype STABmons, but with Alolan Muk running Power Trip instead of Rage Fist, since the latter didn't exist yet. Some of the most fun I had playing OMs was using my all dark squad to beat on people using the flying sample team trying to abuse Tail Glow Yanmega for free wins XD

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

That's interesting, I didn't play OMs back in Generation 7, so it's interesting to hear how the Metagame used to be, thanks for commenting :)

@vedanshujaiswal8286 Ай бұрын

It is not banned in natdex STABmons and it is an absolute problem there. Hope they resolve this issue.

@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 8 күн бұрын

Normal types are immune to rage fist, steel and poison types cannot be poisoned.

@vedanshujaiswal8286 8 күн бұрын

@@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 Grafaiai is the only normal/poison type that I know of and steel/normal is an unused combo. I don't know what you are accomplishing here

@strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 7 күн бұрын

@@vedanshujaiswal8286 I never said to combine the types, buddy.

@moe5177 Ай бұрын

I hope you cover STABmons more! This was a really interesting video!

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I'll definitely continue to cover STABmons more in the future :)

@en-de-lis Ай бұрын

the editing is so clean and fun! thanks Evelyn!

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! Very glad you enjoyed, spent a lot of time on the editing :)

@redtube8667 Ай бұрын

As someone who's played BH since Water Bubble got banned in that tier, I gotta ask why was Water Bubble ever allowed in Stabmons? If a user has any good options it is one of the dumbest abilities ever released

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

So it was rather quickly banned, reason it wasn't banned off spawn was mostly cause people thought that with Ogerpon Wellspring and Volcanion around, water absorb would make it harder to abuse the water moves. Turns out having 2 pokemon in a whole Metagame counter 1, isn't really that healthy lol, as such it was banned shortly after it's return. Also didn't help that as mentioned in the video, Ogerpon Wellspring really did not appreciate being first impressioned into oblivion lol

@applesaucething 29 күн бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased really only 1 counter in volc tbh since no move of Waterpon's can KO Araquanid with HP investment and needless to say stab +3 bug buzz KOs

@Light_2461 Ай бұрын

Wow, Pecharunt was actually good somewhere? 💀

@tysondennis1016 3 күн бұрын

I used Pecharunt in ForteMons. Was an absolute menace.

@yuxue9532 Ай бұрын

this was really well made and well explained! I hope your channel blows up someday

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much :)

@lordoftherabbit Ай бұрын

Love the great content!

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it :)

@percsie3072 Ай бұрын

Great video as always

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you again for watching :)

@DirkParker Ай бұрын

Loving these videos

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thank you so much, glad you're enjoying them :)

@lunar9342 Ай бұрын

This was very interesting!

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

I'm glad! Thank you for watching :)

@austinfletchermusic 20 күн бұрын

Pecharunt is actually kinda crazy in 1v1 tbh

@kardar233 Ай бұрын

My brain after too much gen3 ou: smh gets hard walled by snorlax Super cool to see info on the more exotic metagames!

@NasJuiced Ай бұрын

great video

@jakemoore5064 17 күн бұрын

Is rockhrad banded aero viable? If so I’ll play the tier

@croustibatfindus6835 Ай бұрын

Nice video ! I see a lot of inspiration from electricwindgirlfriend video, but u manage to create ur own style with it.

@EvelynIsBased 29 күн бұрын

Thank you a lot! Yeah I take a lot inspiration from creators like Jimothy, Freezai, and Electricwindgirlfriend

@DoinkDeetus Ай бұрын

"Peckarunt", ITS PECHARUNT, CH CH CH CH CH CH Oh also nice video

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

I'm sorry 😭

@DoinkDeetus Ай бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased you're good

@tysondennis1016 3 күн бұрын

Pecharunt goes crazy in OMs

@EvelynIsBased 3 күн бұрын

Pecharunt really does, Prankster sets in AAA can be some of the most annoying battles ever ngl

@tysondennis1016 3 күн бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased I used a Malignant Chain set in Fortemons. Many ragequits were caused.

@binarycat1237 Ай бұрын

"pekarunt"

@xAznSkyxx Ай бұрын

Pikachu: My time has come

@PokeFreak3x3 29 күн бұрын

I'll be completely honest. I thought this thing was a Fakemon at first and clicked on the video out of pure curiosity

@kwayke9 Ай бұрын

Why is Rage fist allowed in stabmons at all? If it's not as bad as Triaga being allowed for god knows how long in AAA, but still, it's one busted aah move

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

There just isn't many abusers for it, I mean there really isn't that many physical ghost types in general, and most of them abused another thing too and got banned for that. There's especially a lack of tanky and strong physical ghost types, to give an example of just how limited there is for options, Decidueye is the current "best" Rage Fist user, but it still isn't that good lol

@Jiroscopio_ Ай бұрын

I mean, just watch around minute 6 of the video, he explains it pretty well. OMs like this lose the fun if you ban the reasons people would even come to play them

@khemically6124 8 күн бұрын

Because there's no good abusers

@danaa- Ай бұрын

Please cover infinite fusions please!

@thatoneguy4273 Ай бұрын

...correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't they just ban the move on Pecharunt specifically? That way the vast majority still get access to the move, and the problem is dealt with without removing Pecharunt.

@plazmurr Ай бұрын

They don't like complex bans on principle, basically it kinda opens up the idea of "why don't we let Kyogre in OU but only allow it to run Whirlpool"

@RokonShimo 27 күн бұрын

Besides, I'm pretty sure with the way Showdown works, anything more complicated than a blanket ban would need to be listed as a Clause - like Gen 4's "one setup baton passer" clause, or the Mega Rayquaza clause

@TheWizardMus Ай бұрын

So what im hearing is Cotton Guard Rage Fist Banette is the next meta

@EvelynIsBased 29 күн бұрын

Maybe with Mega lol, if they ever gave it prankster could be a great option for it, sadly though Decidueye does outclass it due to Strength Sap

@june9914 Ай бұрын

Why’s final gambit banned? I looked in the banlist and it seems like an odd choice

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

I might be mistaken but after checking STABmons forum page it doesn't say Final Gambits banned, you may have looked at the wrong Metagame page?

@InsertFunnyThingHere 14 күн бұрын

@@EvelynIsBasedBut now that opens up the question of what metagame would ever ban final gambit Maybe the metagame where you're meant to porpusefully lose to win?

@EvelynIsBased 14 күн бұрын

There is the Losers Metagame where you need to lose before you opponent does, I'm pretty sure most recoil moves (including final gambit) are banned, so you'd be right :)

@InsertFunnyThingHere 14 күн бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased I understand kamikaze moves being banned but recoil being banned sounds odd, it seems like it'd be a cool risk vs reward sorta deal where your move deals a lot of damage but it also damages you quite a bit

@june9914 14 күн бұрын

@@InsertFunnyThingHere recoil moves aren’t banned, it’s just all self KOs and magic room (coz it completely shuts down barb/black sludge/item based strats without interesting counterplay)

@shoopy44 Ай бұрын

Why on earth does rage fist remember the boosts even after switches lol

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

An example of Game Freaks ever present wisdom

@grunkleg.3110 Ай бұрын

That would've made too much sense

@zanzoy 14 күн бұрын

I just came for the Evangelion reference

@lorekeeper685 Ай бұрын

Astral barrage?

@RSmeep13 Ай бұрын

I hope someone at Game Freak is looking at STABmons when putting together gen x learnsets. There are lots of cool combos that just can't exist on any current Pokemon. A Pokemon doesn't need a new ability or type combination to feel unique if it pairs preexisting options in a way that's never existed before. Also, the day Dusknoir gets a better recovery option than Pain Split, we're all doomed.

@twobladedswordsandmauls2120 29 күн бұрын

Unless Dusclops also gets said Recovery move, then Dusknoir will likely be overshadowed by it's own pre-evo (again). Though maybe an argument could be made if they let Dusknoir regain Duskull's Levitate instead of retaining Dusclops' Pressure.

@juanrached4523 Ай бұрын

I imagine that glacial lance and astral barrage are banned moves, right?

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Glacial Lance isn't banned, not a lot of too powerful abusers for it that specifically would want it over some other potential options. Astral Barrage isn't banned either, powerful on Gholdengo and has been debated but is yet to be banned now. Mostly cause there isn't a whole lot of Ghost attackers other than Ghold to abuse it

@jmcbango Ай бұрын

What makes astral barrage better than moongeist beam??

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

@jmcbango Astral Barrage has 20 more Base Power

@umwha Ай бұрын

Who is Evelyn?

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

That's me lol

@ValToadstool 29 күн бұрын

So it's just fruity Annihilape

@cjer6040 Ай бұрын

grafaiai becomes the meta when

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Grafaiai actually can be very rarely used for its niche as an annoying Prankster Glare/Transform user, not that good but it's a niche nonetheless lol

@cjer6040 Ай бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased oh really? I was only thinking it because it completely blanks pecharunt

@alb7466 28 күн бұрын

Is it not pronounced peh-cha-runt because of the, yknow, peh-cha berry?

@EvelynIsBased 28 күн бұрын

It is lol, I'm just apparently stupid and didn't know that

@danieltrujillo4611 8 күн бұрын

Isn't it pronounced like peach? Since it's based on a peach an a pecha berry, why call him peca runt

@EvelynIsBased 7 күн бұрын

You're right it is based on a peach, I just made a mistake lol

@realhutoew Ай бұрын

okay so hear me out, Necrozma Rage Fist. It learn Moonlight and then can use Sunsteel Strike and also Dragon Dance

@ValToadstool 29 күн бұрын

Only necrozma dusk wings is ghost type. Also it's banned anyway since it's based on OU

@realhutoew 29 күн бұрын

@@ValToadstool no I meant it literally working on Normal Necrozma

@Wrenellen-lh7jt 9 күн бұрын

@@realhutoew Normal Necrozma is just a pure psychic so it wont get rage fist?

@realhutoew 9 күн бұрын

@@Wrenellen-lh7jt oi, it does have different form of dawn wing and dusk mane, and can change to main necromzma. Literally exactly same as Rotom

@Wrenellen-lh7jt 9 күн бұрын

@@realhutoew I didnt know it worked like that, I just checked and that dd set is one of its two main sets

@amogus69697 7 күн бұрын

Because toxic thread

@pumpqueenravi Ай бұрын

pekarunt?

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Is that not how it's said? please tell me that's how it's said this video took so long 😭

@MetronaJ Ай бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased pecharunt, ch, like the pecha berry or chance

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Funny cause I've also always pronounced the pecha berry as K and not Ch lol, good to know though thank you

@Pao-vo8mf Ай бұрын

it's based on "peach", so yeah it's not peka

@notbryan255 Ай бұрын

shadow ball isn't 90bp 3:30

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

You'd be right lol, must've been a typo I did when making that one

@flatziswashed Ай бұрын

i thought i was the only person that pronounced it as peckarunt wtf

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Ikr it feels right that way lol

@dirtydard4870 29 күн бұрын

Way too many sound effects

@EvelynIsBased 29 күн бұрын

Thank you for the feedback, I tried to quiet them down a bit in this one but I'll see about reducing them better next time

@dirtydard4870 29 күн бұрын

@@EvelynIsBased it's only my personal taste. I'm sure other "people" like it

@InsertFunnyThingHere 14 күн бұрын

@@dirtydard4870you did not just hit them with the "people" in quotes man

@dirtydard4870 14 күн бұрын

@@InsertFunnyThingHere I did. You saw it with your own eyes

@oddishthoughts Ай бұрын

Nice video but your text just looks bad & hard to read

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback :)

@jmcbango Ай бұрын

@@EvelynIsBasedI like it actually, its justa bit low res is all

@moe5177 Ай бұрын

I didn’t have much of an issue with the text either.

@dillmo28 Ай бұрын

rage fist is broken, the stabmons council are stupid

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

The current best abuser is Decidueye, which is typically the best due to a good defensive stat spread, access to Strength Sap and Cotton Guard, and obviously Rage Fist, even with this though, Decidueye is still not very good at all lol

@freakyfingers2098 Ай бұрын

After almost no research imo decidueye could be a decent fit for rage fist despite not having pecharunt stats as it has roost/strength sap and cotton guard. It also gets beak blast from its rowlet pre evolution which is probably not great but I thought was neat as you mentioned the move earlier in the video

@EvelynIsBased Ай бұрын

This is actually true, while still struggling as Decidueye lacks the pure defense Pecharunt had, it is typically seen as the best user for Rage Fist now that Pecharunt is gone, and Beak Blast makes it a scary mon to kill given you have to debate if it's worth the Burn risk, thank you for the comment :)