Star Citizen 3.19.1 - Ship tier list for VHRT bounty hunting solo! (With timestamps!)

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WingZeroType

WingZeroType

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We go through the relative performance ranking of most combat-capable ships for solo NPC bounty hunting, specifically for VHRT missions since they're still one of the best ways to make money in the game, despite CIG’s attempt to reduce our income in 3.19 :D
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Ballistic shield penetration details: • Star Citizen 3.18: Wha...
Infinite front s2 shields & workarounds: • Star Citizen 3.19.1 - ...
Everything you need to know about capacitors and power management: • Star Citizen 3.17.2 - ...
Differences and pros/cons of all the Vanguards: • Star Citizen 3.17.4 - ...
0:00 We’re finally here
0:38 What’s new for 3.18/3.19
1:48 Tiers explained
3:15 125a (Origin)
3:47 325a (Origin)
4:40 600i
6:32 85x
6:58 Ares Ion & Inferno
8:43 Arrow
9:49 Aurora MR/LN
10:33 Avenger series
11:30 Blade
12:53 Buccaneer
13:58 C2/M2/A2 Hercules
15:36 Constellation series
17:27 Corsair
19:25 Cutlass Black
20:44 Cutter
21:10 Defender (Banu)
22:15 Eclipse/Retaliator
24:28 Freelancer MIS
25:41 Gladiator
26:45 Gladius
27:35 Glaive
29:05 Hammerhead
30:13 Hawk
31:50 Hornet series
33:39 Hurricane
34:35 Khartu-al
35:13 M50
35:41 Mustang Alpha
36:24 Mustang Delta
37:07 Nomad
38:02 Pisces Expedition
38:26 Prowler
39:28 Razor series
40:09 Redeemer
41:59 Reliant Tana
43:06 Sabre
43:55 Scorpius
45:09 Scythe
45:57 Talon
46:56 Talon Shrike
47:15 Vanguard series
49:44 Complete tier list
50:33 Socials
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@Eraktab
@Eraktab Жыл бұрын
"The corsair is an exploration vessel. It excels at exploring other player's ships" had me in tears!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
haha I love to hear it! Thanks for checking out the video
@Swedishfishtank
@Swedishfishtank Жыл бұрын
i agree, best exploration of any game, forget the bounty hunting, EXPLORE
@nizemee729
@nizemee729 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this had me lol hard :D And "Exploring" othert ships on video was just magnificent ! :D
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@nizemee729 Who knew that CIG already added exploration gameplay in star citizen!
@B.D.E.
@B.D.E. 7 ай бұрын
Tears really?
@Telesto_Timelost
@Telesto_Timelost 7 ай бұрын
Every tier list with time stamps gets an instant like
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you ended up finding it valuable, or at least enjoyable :)
@KaizikuM
@KaizikuM Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this. I usually don't let tier lists influence decisions, but your last one had me trying ships I really didn't expect to care about. Was hoping you'd make another one!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! I'm curious about whether you agreed with me after you tried ships you didn't typically try (at least in that patch... since things changed drastically in 3.18 and again in 3.19. But curious what you think about my rankings this time around too
@KaizikuM
@KaizikuM Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Biggest thing is the Banu Defender. I almost skipped alien week altogether, but bought one in game, and 2 days later pledged it. I'm not sure what CIG wants it to be. Medium fighter stats that flies like a light fighter. A little rough on some bounties like Reclaimers, but I agree solid B, if not A tier for me. This list more accurately says what I've been thinking. With the changes to the reclaimer and moles being added, you need more firepower. Most of the light fighters were struggling to keep up vs busting out the connie.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@KaizikuM yeah totally agree, and that weird positioning of the Defender is something that seems to be unique to alien ships. The Glaive is also kind of the same, between a medium and a heavy. I honestly kind of like it. Blur the lines a bit and give a ship a unique combination of strenghts/weaknesses
@MrBiglig
@MrBiglig Жыл бұрын
This video needed to be made and you are the guy to make it. Been waiting months for your take on the new VHRT’s. I agree with everything you said and learned a lot I didn’t know about hull hp adjustments. Thank you sir
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazingly kind words! yeah 3.18 was rough with the content drought, bugs, and issues with fits not being saved on claim, and then once 3.19 and 3.19.1 landed I lost a bunch of in-game-bought stuff each time, so it took a while to earn the money to get the ships to get enough experience to make a (hopefully) knowledgeable video. I'm glad you liked and found it useful, thanks for checking it out!
@Drakey_Fenix
@Drakey_Fenix Жыл бұрын
Yes! So happy you did this one! I just watched your previous one and wished you had a more recent one.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
I hope you like it! And yeah a bunch of stuff has changed since the 3.17 one :D
@Kuzler
@Kuzler 4 ай бұрын
Seeing you responding to comments on a video from 8 months ago is amazing. Also you answering the questions about "is the list still up to date?" then providing answers about new placements on the tier list is huge, thank you for your continued work.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch - I really appreciate the kind words :) This is all definitely a labor of love for me. I really enjoy this space game and want to help others bridge the knowledge gap so that they can get maximum fun out of it too :D
@yiyang4445
@yiyang4445 Жыл бұрын
Good to see the tier list come back! Great explanations! And good to know bounty hunting is still a viable money making option~
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
It absolutely is! It's harder for sure, so the average player is going to make less money than they used to, but I still think it pays better than many other (non-exploity) careers lol
@caseytwill
@caseytwill Жыл бұрын
Ever single one of your videos knocks it out of the park… another awesome video!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the kind words
@ihsahn_k
@ihsahn_k Жыл бұрын
It's enjoyable to watch and learn from the Professional. You don't have to recheck a topic, `cause it's RELIABLE. Thank you for your great efforts to bring us this very solid piece of info, bro!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the amazingly kind words! I really appreciate it. I'm glad you liked it :)
@Korrack
@Korrack Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love your PvE videos and tips as that’s where I spend most of my time atm. And I had some pretty good laughs in the Corsair section; joke kept getting better and better. I’ll have to try mine in a fight again; I love that ship but was turned off using it for combat due to the slow turns. If I can learn to fight in it I’ll live in that ship 24/7 and explore everything!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you, and yes give it a shot! Become a fellow member of the bounty explorer's guild! I would give the ballistic loadout a shot, it was so refreshing to not have to worry about infinite front shields of the enemy lol
@mattl7854
@mattl7854 Жыл бұрын
Well edited and informative video. I like that you included things like definitions of alpha damage for new people who may not know.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the kind words and the feedback about the subtitle text. I sometimes struggle whether or not I put too much stuff to read on top of the footage so it's great to hear that it's appreciated.
@Hurric4ne_
@Hurric4ne_ Жыл бұрын
For everyone looking at the Tier List and thinking about getting a Conny: The Constellation Andromeda (Laser Repeaters) and the Phoenix (Laser Cannons) are both available for rent at New Babbage (Microtech). Update, as WingZero said: Due to the default loadout being fully gimballed, you can expect even more dmg when you buy it and change two S5 gimballs to Cannons, aswell as some more shield strength with a Grade A Shield.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
This is a really good FYI for folks to see how the connie flies, but folks should just note that the default loadout of the ships are fully gimballed, which means you don't get to take advantage of the massive dps increase of the S5 cannons. I'd probably have put a fully gimballed loadout somewhere in the lower A-tier, but honestly I didn't even try it because dps is king IMO
@Hurric4ne_
@Hurric4ne_ Жыл бұрын
True, i just wish we could remove the upper two gimbals (i guess everyone does, huh). Having a half-gimballed loadout is just stupid.
@edenyan7237
@edenyan7237 Жыл бұрын
@@Hurric4ne_ the ship in design is a 4 size 5 hardpoint ship, the reason we have this weird setup, is because an old design flaw that they put lower two guns at the bottom of lower engines rather than top, so size 5 weapon will cause the ship landing in crash. Connie's been out there for years, and CIG just ever borther to fix it, so this weird setup of weapons stays with Connie like a curse.
@nemesisfaust
@nemesisfaust Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType you mean quad size 4. all conny varrients have 2 fixed gimbles, and dong 2s4 gimble and 2s5 fixed breaks tracking and projectial flight times. so its 4s4 gimbled. which is great for combat considering she is slower than most combat ships.
@nemesisfaust
@nemesisfaust Жыл бұрын
theres been a lot of distaste for the conny lower turret mounts, that visibility is minimal from the seated positions with legs and chair consuming 50% of the aimed field of fiew. where the aqulia variant only has a lower gunner because the top is a long range scanner, which is nice for explorations, but not nice for combats. also the ship isnt so heavy in mass she cant fly in inverted orbital positions. alot of people like the new dome design of the aqulia variant saying its their favorite. i disagree. the rebars of the domb is 2 times larger than the other variants and actually takes up more field of vew. granted, the twin bars on the other ships being so close together makes is difficult at times when maneuvering rapidly threw astroid fields for some bounties or other missions ect. but the actual view of larger lower pannels helps you track ground landing positions, as well as the small top bar helps you see where the top turret line is on that variant of ship. something else about the constellation is this. the top beds dont work, so can only crew 2 for log outs, also below the bottom bed has vise leaf clipping, and the space is drawn inside the ship. this is bad for 2 reasons. 1 its open portal hole in the ship that creates lower fps while within the ship, so when server fps drops you can really notice when the servers are starting to dumb and 30k. some people like this as a precurser to stop what you are doing and bed log before you loose your shipment, or items ect. others dislike it because it is a combat disadvantage. and this is for all constellation variants. something else, every variant tho not specified has a p52 or p72 merlin snub fighter attached to it, where only the andromida has the newer p72 combat fighter. and can only swap components from the ship manifest with the andromida. the bad point about this. it creates a rear hole in the ships shield zone. so if an arrow or something tinny manages to get right behind you, they are doing haul damage even with lazer repeaters. not cool. also, if you turn on the sub fighter its tinny hull and shields become targetable, and aiming at it can sometimes bug and cause rounds to fly threw the constellations killing components and players ect. ntm if the merlin's die, then explode and do damage and kill your constellations. for this reasons, i find tho not the best thruster setup or weapons loadout at base. you can upgrade the tarus, where the longer bed is nice for storing a rover + found tiems or boxes and hauling items. i do not recommend storing 2 rovers, or a rover and roc, or a rover and fury, or 2 furys in the tarus. tho they fit, the ship becomes very slow like a turtle. the added bonus is the tarus cargo drop bed isnt just longer but slightly wider, making it easier to load, park, exit and use the bed floor buttons to get around in the dropped cargo bed. so from my own personal experience, the tarus tho the cheapest of the constellation variants, she is the best... that is once you upgrade her. and the power 2s2 tractor beams will also make quick work of looting ships. making it that much more valuable when doing bounties, because you can drop the bed, get in the tractor, and loot the ships as fast as you kill them. then be on your way after. making bounty payments 2times better. so the tarus payout isnt 450k per hr, but closer to 790k per hr. making it S+ tier also tho the constellation ships are a large ship, they have a medium computer. tiny 0, small 1, medium 2 blade slot attachments later on. so... you could blade improve shield regen rates on the computer, and blade 1 gun. then all slots are filled. this is a better future concept as well, because the andromeda, has 2 turret guns, it has a coms copiolet chair and missles/scanning chair. but no drive or shield terminals, this means you cant assign an ai to manage these components. but if you wanted to assign an ai to a gun you could, but if getting 1 ai for a turret you might as well have 2 ai for turrrets. then do 1 blade as shield regen, and 1 blade as power, because more guns and more shields means more capasitor usage. so operations of a fully manned andromeda with blades and ai cost far more than the tarus. meanwhile the tarus can loot the kills faster and still use 2 blades in future for 1 man crew with piolet and that is future, when blades come out. so tarus is best now, with least bugs, best profit ratios, loading and looting speeds, 30k warnings, and great after a few upgrades. meanwhile, the andromeda fully crewed needs ai+blades being a far more operational expense, and requires manual loot times which negates the bonus damage shares of + 1 turret 2s2 guns. it actually earns far less credit per hr, because of fast looting with the tractorbeam on the tarus. so not just now, but future as well, the tarus is the only S+ tier VHRT credit/hr
@Whoadayson
@Whoadayson 11 ай бұрын
Damn man, your videos are always so informative - Gotta love how much Exploration DPS that corsair is rockin!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. And yeah the Corsair is definitely one of the top ship-explorers in the game for pve now
@CrabSoundsInYourHead
@CrabSoundsInYourHead Жыл бұрын
I was just watching your older vhrt tier list from back in 3.17. Auto play was on so I get to see your new vid almost right as it came out. Thanks for the tips!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Haha that's hilarious, thanks for checking out my older video! A lot has changed since then so it'd be worth watching at least the beginning of the new one if you don't have patience for the whole thing (its funny how i even mentioned i was trying to keep the video short.... but here we are)
@CrabSoundsInYourHead
@CrabSoundsInYourHead Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Great video man. I never realized the health increase or shield problems with the vhrt’s since I mostly run ballistics. I’ll definitely try out the 600i if I ever get a chance though. Thanks again for the great video!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@CrabSoundsInYourHead Cheers man, and thats interesting, what ships do you like flying with ballistics?
@CrabSoundsInYourHead
@CrabSoundsInYourHead Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType I typically run the Khartu and Talon with dual ad4b’s to compensate for the normally lower dps with laser weapons. It does cost ammo and I need a rearm a couple times before I can finish a group vhrt but the rearm is 240 credits for two ad4bs. The ballistic velocity I found was less of a problem with the crazy maneuverability from the khartu and talon so I can avoid and hit shots better on the valks and vanguards. The only problem ships in vhrt’s are the hurricane and the escort ships with ballistics: both tear the shields and ship apart after a few hits.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@CrabSoundsInYourHead ah yeah dang man i really wish light fighters were in a better place right now, or they at least gave them better targets to fight against lol
@Pizza_is_old
@Pizza_is_old Жыл бұрын
Haven't had the time to watch yet but I'm really glad to see another upload, I love your content.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words! I hope you end up liking it!
@madgiecool
@madgiecool Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wing. Love the YT, love the twitch content. Thanks for the tier review!!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate you checking it out!
@Whippets
@Whippets Жыл бұрын
Wow, was away for a year and just came back. This explains why I went from breezing through bounties before with my Sabre to now having to struggle a bit. Thanks for all the good info, subbed.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! I'm glad it was helpful to you :)
@Whippets
@Whippets Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Very .,.. but I'm still keeping my Sabre. lol
@Meatpiesgaming
@Meatpiesgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great well thought out vid. Really good production values too.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words and compliments :)
@marneuscalgar4361
@marneuscalgar4361 Жыл бұрын
This was REALLY well made Definitely earned a sub brother
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it :)
@matthewpeck4016
@matthewpeck4016 Жыл бұрын
So happy to get a new video from you!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear from you again! And yeah, its been a while, we were going through a rough patch with the 3.18 content drought and the constant losing of ship fits when claiming ships, and then I lost a lot of my ships in 3.19 and 3.19.1 so it's taken me a while to earn back enough to test out a bunch of stuff across a bunch of ships lol. I'm hoping to have some more regular content coming out for a bit now, assuming CIG doesn't delete their servers again lol
@_xone
@_xone Жыл бұрын
Nice, really appreciate your work on these!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
thanks a bunch! I appreciate you checking it out and your kind words
@Grit.1
@Grit.1 Жыл бұрын
No more Arrow boosting, dodging, and rolling around a VHRT to victory, it was so fun. I guess this was inevitable. Very happy to see you back Wing. I hope you continue doing more videos for 3.19.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm bummed to lose my gladius and arrow hilarious times as well. I'm sad that they really reduced ship flexibility with the introduction of the reclaimers, but what canya do. And yeah it's great to be back! 3.18 was a pretty rough content drought and really buggy and I lost a bunch of ships in 3.19 and 3.19.1 so it's taken me a while to get enough stuff together to get another video out, but hopefully i'll be able to get some more out a bit more regularly unless CIG deletes their servers again
@godhelpme5547
@godhelpme5547 8 ай бұрын
Arrow was my first ship and I loved it a shit ton. But atleast other ships in the medium-class are getting raised, some of their designs I absolutely adore.
@KonigsTiger581
@KonigsTiger581 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Always like seeing these to help zero in on whats next on the buy list.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! And yeah thats exactly why I started making them! I was using other people's videos to try to help me decide what to get and I wanted to see more combat lol
@rallicraze
@rallicraze 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the big effort, this video must have taken ages to produce! 10/10!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 10 ай бұрын
It did! thank you so much for checking it out and for the kind feedback :)
@CaptTsubasa09
@CaptTsubasa09 Жыл бұрын
Nice and detailed summary. Personally rocking the Corsair and Sentinel now as I love bounty hunting and combat beacons. Full cannon loadouts for both (gimbal on the Corsair for easier aim) so I can grind for a long time.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yeah those seem like a solid combination of ships. Sentinel for slightly more agile combat and Corsair when you wanna be the big sumo wrestler that enemies bounce off of lol.
@CaptTsubasa09
@CaptTsubasa09 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType bingo!!
@biotechisgodzilla
@biotechisgodzilla Жыл бұрын
18:07 🤣🤣🤣 I was looking forward to a new tier list, thank you for putting i n sooo much effort!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
haha thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed my silly humor and the effort that went into it :) Seeing messages like yours helps make all the hours worth it!
@Kalwren
@Kalwren Жыл бұрын
New subscriber... I *really* like that you show "such and such ship at such and such area". Please keep doing this in future videos. (:
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Welcome! And thanks for that feedback, I'll keep it up!
@drippnjimmy1033
@drippnjimmy1033 Жыл бұрын
Damn you got me feeling good. I’ve been doing HRT’s in my stock nomad for a while now.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Niiiice how long does it take you to kill a Reclaimer in it? The HRT wingmen are usually easier than VHRT wingmen so it should be a bit easier to stay alive but that doesn't change the dps output lol
@pie4489
@pie4489 Жыл бұрын
Before 3.19 I was doing bounties in my titan so this helps a lot. Thank you!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
yeah it definitely got a lot harder for the starter ships to do VHRTs, but I'd say a titan is still totally capable up to MRTs. You can do HRTs and VHRTs with it as well but things will slow down for you
@starrusgaming
@starrusgaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
thanks for checking it out! I hope you liked it!
@viktorwik
@viktorwik Жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff once again!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch man!
@gawl8148
@gawl8148 9 ай бұрын
It would be great to see this refreshed for the current build.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! These videos take me a lot of time to make so I definitely want to make one but I want to try to get some smaller / faster videos out in between given the influx of new ships :)
@thePrisoner1000
@thePrisoner1000 Жыл бұрын
fantastic work on this!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for checking it out!
@ozramblue117
@ozramblue117 Жыл бұрын
Solid list. Subbed. I love the LN but those guns will take forever vs a heavy hull. Totally agree. Side note, the Aquila is the fastest of the Connies at 990 m/s as opposed to 911. This may not seem like much but means it can keep distance from Redeemer as well as Corsair. Harbinger also has the size 3 turret which is unique among vanguards.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for checking it out and for the sub!
@geeklimit
@geeklimit Жыл бұрын
Very well done. Would love to see the in-game costs / storage at the end. Seeing the Tana and the C2 near each other but at different costs is something to consider!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for that feedback! I probably wouldn't show storage because that's not really useful in bounty hunting at the current point, but I do think cost is a valuable factor for folks
@geeklimit
@geeklimit Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType yep, that's fair. The storage is just applicable for folks like me who don't play often but want to melt down and start with a ship that can do a variety of things without growing out of it before the next reset! I've been away since 1.17 but had been using a 6x ballistic Tana for a little bit of everything. The sleeping bug was one reason I stopped playing, but it otherwise was a perfect all-around ship!
@geeklimit
@geeklimit Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType price list below, in "csv" tier, name, price (rent) S, Retaliator, 4.032M S, Constellation A, 3.548M (71K) S, Eclipse, 3.490M S, Vanguard, 2.012-3.388M (102K) A, Corsair, 3.402M A, 600i, 9.475M (245K) A, C2/M2/A2, 4.926/5.225/5.525M A, Redeemer, 8.676M A, Glaive, na B, Defender, 2.781M B, Scorpius, 2.880M B, Hornet, 1.493-2.246M B, Buccaneer, 1.410M B, Prowler, 4.248M B, Reliant Tana, 0.870M B, Hawk, 1.284M C, Cutlass Black, 1.385M (28K) C, Sabre, 2.183-2.354M C, Gladius,1.170M C, Freelancer MIS, 2.538M C, Blade, 3.371M C, Ion & Inferno, 2.859M C, Hammerhead, 12.460M C, Hurricane, 1.218M C, Scythe, na C, Mustang Delta, 0.764M C, 325a, 0.944M C, Avenger, 0.786-1.156M (16-43K) C, Arrow, 0.972M (19K) C, Mustang Alpha, 0.251M (5K) C, Talon, 1.855M C, Khartu-al, 2.114M C, Gladiator, 1.953M D, Razor, 1.761-1.879M (53K) D, M50, 1.194M (36K) D, 125a, 0.791M D, Talon Shrike, 2.259M D, Nomad, 0.953M D, Aurora MR/LN, 0.185M/0.338M (na,8K) D, 85X, 0.575M D, Cutter, 0.675M D, Pisces Exp, 0.406M
@geeklimit
@geeklimit Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType reordered as a compromise between rank and price: tier, name, price (rent),tier rank,price rank,tier + price rank B, Reliant Tana, 0.870M,15,9,24 S, Vanguard, 2.012-3.388M (102K),4,23,27 B, Hornet, 1.493-2.246M,12,19,31 B, Buccaneer, 1.410M,13,18,31 C, Mustang Alpha, 0.251M (5K),30,2,32 C, Mustang Delta, 0.764M,26,6,32 C, Gladius,1.170M,19,13,32 B, Hawk, 1.284M,16,16,32 C, Cutlass Black, 1.385M (28K),17,17,34 C, Avenger, 0.786-1.156M (16-43K),28,7,35 S, Retaliator, 4.032M,1,35,36 S, Constellation A, 3.548M (71K),2,34,36 S, Eclipse, 3.490M,3,33,36 A, Corsair, 3.402M,5,32,37 C, 325a, 0.944M,27,10,37 B, Defender, 2.781M,10,28,38 C, Hurricane, 1.218M,24,15,39 D, Aurora MR/LN, 0.185M/0.338M (na/8K),39,1,40 B, Scorpius, 2.880M,11,30,41 C, Arrow, 0.972M (19K),29,12,41 C, Sabre, 2.183-2.354M,18,25,43 D, 85X, 0.575M,40,4,44 A, C2/M2/A2, 4.926/5.225/5.525M,7,37,44 D, 125a, 0.791M,36,8,44 D, Pisces Exp, 0.406M,42,3,45 A, 600i, 9.475M (245K),6,39,45 D, Cutter, 0.675M,41,5,46 A, Redeemer, 8.676M,8,38,46 C, Freelancer MIS, 2.538M,20,27,47 D, Nomad, 0.953M,38,11,49 D, M50, 1.194M (36K),35,14,49 B, Prowler, 4.248M,14,36,50 C, Ion & Inferno, 2.859M,22,29,51 C, Talon, 1.855M,31,21,52 C, Blade, 3.371M,21,31,52 D, Razor, 1.761-1.879M (53K),34,20,54 C, Gladiator, 1.953M,33,22,55 C, Khartu-al, 2.114M,32,24,56 C, Hammerhead, 12.460M,23,40,63 D, Talon Shrike, 2.259M,37,26,63 A, Glaive, na,9,na,na C, Scythe, na,25,na,na
@geeklimit
@geeklimit Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType for those of us who like to have some SCU + 'getting started' costs. tier, name, price (rent),tier rank,price rank,tier + price rank,SCU,Pledge B, Reliant Tana, 0.870M,15,9,24,1,na C, Mustang Alpha, 0.251M (5K),30,2,32,4,$30 C, Cutlass Black, 1.385M (28K),17,17,34,46,$110 C, Avenger, 0.786-1.156M (16-43K),28,7,35,8,$60 S, Constellation A, 3.548M (71K),2,34,36,96,$240 C, 325a, 0.944M,27,10,37,4,$70 A, Corsair, 3.402M,5,32,37,72,na D, Aurora MR/LN, 0.185M/0.338M (na/8K),39,1,40,3-Mar,$30-40 D, 125a, 0.791M,36,8,44,2,$60 A, C2/M2/A2, 4.926/5.225/5.525M,7,37,44,696/522/234,na A, 600i, 9.475M (245K),6,39,45,40,na D, Pisces Exp, 0.406M,42,3,45,4,$45 D, Cutter, 0.675M,41,5,46,4,$45 C, Freelancer MIS, 2.538M,20,27,47,36, D, Nomad, 0.953M,38,11,49,24,$80 C, Hammerhead, 12.460M,23,40,63,40,an For me, I like the Mustang Alpha -> Reliant Tana -> Constellation A path from this list, but: modify it a little bit with less missiles and ride the Reliant Kore from $65 to the Connie A for 3.548M aUEC (6x 10-series Greatsword at 3,025dps for 60 sec, 8x S1 missiles (vs Tana 20x S2) + 6 SCU)
@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity
@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity Жыл бұрын
This was very informative! Thank you :D
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! And Thank you for the kind words :D
@Cynane27
@Cynane27 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video dude
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch!
@frognutz0o
@frognutz0o Жыл бұрын
I just started back playing on 3.19 from a few years ago and I was getting beyond pissed that I wasn't killing certain targets. I didnt know about the shield bug and was getting frustrated when dying to targets I put crap load of shots on. So I appreciate you letting ppl know about it.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a super frustrating issue that's been around since about 3.17. I'm actually in the process of making a short video about it right now to get the word out, b/c it seems a bunch of people didn't realize what's happening. Thanks for giving me that feedback, and thanks for checking out the video!
@shawnc5188
@shawnc5188 Жыл бұрын
You can now press '8' to missile target components, and I found a Warden with a 4x s1 missiles in its right engine doesn't turn well.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@shawnc5188 I haven't tried subtargetting my missiles other than trying it with torps on a reclaimer to see if i could kill it with fewer s5 torps. I'll give it a shot with missiles, it'd be nice to murder wardens faster :D
@J-zargo
@J-zargo Жыл бұрын
OMG 😱 finally waiting for sooooooo long but still u delivered ❤
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you! And yeah... it took a while. 3.18 was a really rough content drought and a horrible patch lol
@Jamie-666
@Jamie-666 Жыл бұрын
Superb work, well done.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch!!
@redbeansnotrice
@redbeansnotrice 8 ай бұрын
unrelated, but i love that you reply to everyone's comments ♥
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 8 ай бұрын
haha thank you! I love chatting about star citizen with folks :)
@SuicideBeta16
@SuicideBeta16 Жыл бұрын
amazing tier list and another well polished video from WZT. I would personally put the Delta in the same tier list as the Hornet bucc tana and hawk as it suffers similar shortcomings while putting out great DPS. I kinda wanna repurchase my corsair and try it out in Arccorp as atmosphere is a lil more forgiving there. Can confirm the Tally bieng the Goat farmer. although The game gets really sleepy doing it.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah the tally isn't bad for medium chunks at a time but I like splitting it up with more active ships. But its great after a long day and you're too tired for intense combat lol. And I like the delta but its wings are just too flimsy for me, and having 4 of the 6 weapons on them makes that a hard sell for me, but I get what you're saying. And thank you for the incredibly kind words! I really appreciate it :)
@MontoyaTEST
@MontoyaTEST Жыл бұрын
Great video! Good work!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for checking it out :)
@Constatine95
@Constatine95 11 ай бұрын
I've actually been having a lot of success on the anvil hawk with 2 size 1 and 2 neutron cannons, and then 2 size 2 distortion cannons. The distortion guns strip shields super fast even on big ships and then the neutron cannons have enough dps to take down even a reclaimer in a reasonable amount of time. You have to play around with the power sometimes but I tend to sweep through VHRTs pretty fast and really fun as well
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
the distortion guns will actually do less damage than the laser cannons (neutron cannons are exactly the same as laser cannons in this patch, there's no functional difference) so if you're taking shields down fast with distortion you'll go even faster with lasers. The only way distortion helps you is if it turns off enemy components like their powerplant or shields. And for that, it needs to hit hull first. So if you see all the shield faces of the enemy go down together all at once, then their shields got shut down by distortion, otherwise it's just regular laser damage chipping them down. But that all said, I like the hawk a lot, it's just a bit flimsy if your own shields go down so you have to be careful!
@llillian4055
@llillian4055 Жыл бұрын
Really nice breakdown, ty!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for the kind words!
@FrozenKnight21
@FrozenKnight21 10 ай бұрын
This is probably the best tier list I've seen to date. I fully agree with every assessment you made.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you checking it out and letting me know your thoughts. Always great to hear people agreeing :D
@FrozenKnight21
@FrozenKnight21 10 ай бұрын
@@WingZeroType I've flown most of the ships in your list. And the ones I haven't ive heard the performance of from friends. Most lists are done without the listmaker ever flying the ship. You can tell from your review you took the time to properly evaluate every ship here. Which makes this better than just about every other list I've seen to date. You didn't artificially push the Gladius or Arrow up higher because they are meta ships. You tested them and evaluated accordingly. Your evaluations are worthy of respect.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 10 ай бұрын
​@@FrozenKnight21Thank you so much! I really appreciate the kind words since it takes me A LOT of time to make a video like this as you can imagine. I'm lucky that a couple of people in my community donated me a bunch of aUEC to buy ships in-game after the wipes so that I was able to test combat with almost all of the ships rather than having to individually grind them all out like I used to lol. Thanks again for checking out the video and for the lovely feedback
@FrozenKnight21
@FrozenKnight21 10 ай бұрын
@@WingZeroType you did an exclent job. The only ship i would have liked to see on the list would be the A2, but you did get tge C2 which is fairly close, i believe the A2 is toigher with slightly more firepower, just not sure if the pilot can access it.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 10 ай бұрын
@@FrozenKnight21Yeah the A2 has a tiny bit better resistances and a lotttt more guns but the pilot only has access to the same 2xs5 hardpoints on all variants. So its miniscule but the C2 would be a tiny bit more maneuverable thanks to having less weight from all the extra turrets and guns lol.
@Raider19D
@Raider19D Жыл бұрын
Andromeda is like S+ Tier for me. Oh and when they say its a freighter. Their talking about all the bodies you are stacking up since its a GUN ship mainly :) Thanks for video!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
haha thank you! I guess I'll have to make a body-stacking tierlist ;)
@Xphurrious
@Xphurrious Жыл бұрын
Love the video, personally I'd swap the Ares Ion and Scorpius, but that could just be because I have so much flight time in the Ion, I find myself compensating for the pip being off subconsciously now, it dishes out so much more damage than a scorpius and has double the shields
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Yeah I can understand that, any of these ships can move around about 1 tier based on personal preference and combat flight style. The dps of the Ion is immense, and it's got a really impressive missile payload so if you can effectively land its shots its incredible
@KRONOS_415
@KRONOS_415 Жыл бұрын
Great video - now I need a list for PVP!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
unfortunately i'm not really a pvper so i'm not knowledgeable enough to do that!
@donnys2965
@donnys2965 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the list!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@Sarsour_
@Sarsour_ Жыл бұрын
Awesome content!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for checking it out!
@dmenace8411
@dmenace8411 Жыл бұрын
Top Marks for your efforts🙌🙌🙌. Vid actually stopped me from making my Sunday Roast👊😜. PEACE Czens
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
haha thank you!
@ColMortimer50
@ColMortimer50 11 ай бұрын
I've been using my Redeemer to chain group VHRTs of late and I am finding it more efficient than the Vanguard. I use it with 4x S3 repeaters as I find the gimbals / remote turret give you a little more arc to hit the more nimble targets. The 2x S3 shields let you take most of the damage of 3-4 AI ships on the chin without issue.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I can definitely see that. I personally still like the vanguard more because it's faster and has the size 5 big gun for more dps but the redeemer is definitely solid as well. It's a lot less stressful thanks to the repeaters and tankiness and even has a solid missile loadout as well so I can definitely see that
@satanresurrectedgaming7765
@satanresurrectedgaming7765 Жыл бұрын
Good effort put into video, everyone else just photoshops little pictures onto the tier list without an actual showcase of each ship in game.. And i love the Vanguard Warden, Rammed a planet full speed last night and all it took was my size 5 cannon. Might've been a fluke but never know till i try it again.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
All hail the vanguards!! And ty for the kind words, I appreciate you recognizing all the work that goes into this
@Davie1072
@Davie1072 Жыл бұрын
Great video bud thank you.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch man, I appreciate you checking it out
@DatJamesYT
@DatJamesYT Жыл бұрын
Just a note on the insurance reclaim for torpedos on the Retaliator. If you pledge for the BASE retaliator you get 2 bombers as loaners so you can take out 1, fire off the 6 torps and menu log. Go grab the second whilst the first is reclaimed and repeat
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Wait seriously? The base retaliator gives two retaliator torpedo bombers? that's comical and really good to know, thank you!
@DatJamesYT
@DatJamesYT Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Yeah - and you still get the Gladiator too. No idea why but hey - a steal for the pledge price currently
@DennisMangual
@DennisMangual Жыл бұрын
Great video, nice work
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@deio977
@deio977 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual, Wing :) Long time no see, hope you are ok. In this patch CIG "forgot" to code and AI is suicidal again, like before 3.14 where they "adjusted" them a bit. Besides being suicidal (read dumb), they are all aimbots. If this is how CIG thinks we are having fun, then ... what to say. They don't like us to have fun, that's for sure. Even HRT's have Reclaimers + 4 aimbots that all concentrate fire upon you at once. The best ships to do bounties now are not only the ones that are "tankier" but also the ones that can still function well with "major torque imbalance" and those are rare. Hercules, Connies can, Scorpius can, Vanguards (don't loose wings tho) and perhaps others but these are more "imbalance" resistant. Then there is desync, shields down in an instant without warning and ... well, we already know. Oh and the missiles, damn them. CIG either made this intentional or have no idea how to code. I think it's intentional, previous patches were better. I think all we encounter now is because CIG lost the game and had to rebuild it from scratch so they took "parts" and glued them together into a "functional" game. 3.18 was a fiasco and they had to rebuild the game entirely, they mentioned this on Spectrum, they had to redo the game because it was badly damaged. Hopefully, fixes will come, but it will take time. Cheers :) P.S. Forgot about Service Beacons. There aren't any which is stupid. They used to spawn at acceptable rate, now you need rank to reach higher tier, nothing bad about this. But there aren't any and the 1-2 that may spawn in a server, are at 56 mil km. Ok, going there, doing them, poof, no more. How to reach higher tier when there aren't anymore beacons? CIG kills fun and in game money earn to make ships sales.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks man, yeah I'm doing well, just as you said we had a big content drought with 3.18 and all the bugs that made you lose all your loadouts whenever your ship was claimed so it was really hard to grind anywhere. And then I lost most of my ships in 3.19 and again in 3.19.1 so it took a while to get enough money to test with the ships i wanted to for the tier list lol. I pretty much agree with you on the shittiness of the aimbots, I don't think CIG wants us to have a bad time though. Just recently they added some AI delay response time in bunker FPS AI so I think they're working on it and know it's an issue. It's just... slow lol. Just like the infinite s2 shield bug fix... and desync... its just slow lol.
@deio977
@deio977 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Keep doing the videos mate, you are valuable to the community, your tutorials are very useful for new players and veterans as well.
@adilazimdegilx
@adilazimdegilx Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the list. Your lists are always great to have as ships and bounties go various changes every patch and it's hard to find a suitable ship for both quest effectiveness and my flying preferences. Looks like this patch is going to be rough for me. In your list, I'd only like to fly Vanguard in S-A class. And even that's a sluggish ship to my likings. Agility hit on lost wing thingies is also no good. It looks like Defender is the next best, again. That's one of the ships I genuinely enjoy flying and if it's on the top the B class even though it only has 4xS2 missiles, it must be great. It's too expensive in game though, but I think it still worth it. You also get the fastest QT drive with no range problems. I also loved the way it looks but that's subjective.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
No, thank YOU for checking out all my videos. It's these kinds of lovely comments that make it all worth the effort. And yeah I'm bummed that the latest changes have decreased the viability of faster ships in VHRT combat. Balance-wise, I think it makes sense. It doesn''t really make sense that a single gladius would be able to kill a Valkyrie if it's guarded by other valks and hurricanes. But that's why I said I'd like for them to make light-medium fighter VHRTs, so that you could still make good money while using those smaller ships. I think the Banu is the best bet if you like a faster, more agile ship for VHRTs, but it will take some effort. I was moving my power around during combat to let my shields recharge whatever they could when I was firing my guns
@adilazimdegilx
@adilazimdegilx Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType You have tested 40+ ships and put them in a video with all relevant pros and cons while adding your personal findings and opinions for us. It's really hard task to begin with, yet you have done it amazingly as well. Thanking is the least I could do, really. You more than deserve it. 👏 I'm still shy of one million for defender and still weighing my options. So this video couldn't come at better time for me. Mostly doing service beacons with Mustang now as I just couldn't make the same amount in same time with regular bounties even with the down time of the beacons when they refused to spawn. (and your take on Mustang is just perfect in the video, really it loses a wing so fast in heated fights that I finished more fights with 3 weapons than with 4 weapons. Overheating problem is also just as you described.) Still, I have fun doing low and medium threats. I even went against Connies time to time and so far I haven't lost my ship once (completely!). So I'm up to challange already. I guess Defender would be the next logical step for solo pilot like me. Or maybe the scorpius if I convince my buddy to play and be my gunner :P Either way, I don't think I'd go wrong with any of them based on your tests. This is just the information I needed to decide. Real experience with actual ships on current patch. Simply precious.
@Drayfon
@Drayfon 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the content :) P.S. 50:12 you made a typo with the redeemer
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 6 ай бұрын
hahahaha holy damn I kid you not. I spent like a whole minute, looking up both how to spell Cellin and cross-checking with the video before I realized I wrote the wrong ship name. I am terrible at picking the right name out of Redeemer/Reclaimer/Retaliator. And they're all Aegis ships to boot. CIG hates me
@herbisaur99
@herbisaur99 11 ай бұрын
lesss go, thanks man, i very hesitate to upgrade my vulture to an constellation, and i go for the andromeda, thanks you so much
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
Cheers mate, the connie is a fantastic ship! I hope you like it!
@vanvino4074
@vanvino4074 Жыл бұрын
The Corsair is such a great ship at applying exploration to other ships!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
It's also the only exploration ship with a fully functional gameplay loop!
@JonBergacs
@JonBergacs Жыл бұрын
Exploring the limit of people's hulls with high velocity lead is fun.
@CaptTsubasa09
@CaptTsubasa09 Жыл бұрын
Been using the Corsair recently with full cannon gimbal loadout and it’s so fun to use doing service beacons without having to reload.
@diminios
@diminios Жыл бұрын
@@CaptTsubasa09 I currently use it with a full repeater (gimbal) loadout, since the capacitor is so damn huge.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@JonBergacs Yeah the only sad thing is now I have to change my career from bounty hunter to bounty explorer
@d3coupled
@d3coupled Жыл бұрын
Hey really nicely made video. Wouldn't agree putting the Corsair below the Vanguard when in most cases bounty hunting comes down to raw DPS, especially with the addition of Reclaimers to HRT+. Same deal with the Ares Ion, if flown right it will blow the Vanguard out of the water in terms of speed due to those big shield HP pools. Great presentation it was a fun watch.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words and your feedback. I personally disagree that the Corsair and the Ares beat the Vanguards, because the Corsair is extremely slow at getting to and from the enemy, and can't consistently land the damage against the invincible shields since you can't attack from the front unless you've got ballistics. The ares are great against larger targets like valkyries and reclaimers, but struggle against wardens and hurricanes. could a perfect pilot who had a ton of hours in the ares learn the quirks and beat out the vanguards? probably, but this tier list is taking into account players of all skill levels, in all conditions, against all types of enemies. I think the Vanguard lands its damage much more effectively against the smaller targets than either Ares ship and actually ends up being relatively comparable against the reclaimer and valkyrie.
@d3coupled
@d3coupled Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Thanks for the thoughtful reply man I respect those decisions :)
@diamondwhite5208
@diamondwhite5208 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t know you could divert power to different directions for the shields on the s2 ones thanks man
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
Cheers man! I'm glad you found it useful. You can do it for any shields that have multiple faces
@CrymsAI
@CrymsAI Жыл бұрын
As a solo PVE player, I've been saving up significantly to try and buy something past the Gladius. Thank you for this!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
I totally feel you! That's actually why I started doing this so long ago :) I hope it helps! Happy to answer any questions you might have
@Derguz
@Derguz Жыл бұрын
For a solo ship I'd recommend the corsair.. imo it's got a better layout internally than the connie and the firepower is great.. and it's got a ramp which imo is better for exporing cargo than the connie.. It's main drawback imo is the hp atm is 25% less than what the connie has..
@CrymsAI
@CrymsAI Жыл бұрын
@@Derguz I may get the sentinel first as it's the least expensive in game and I'll be able to make more VHRT money to afford the others. The Corsair is s very good looking ship, the only thing that worries me is the tankiness difference between it and the Connie. I have used the rental Connie at times to try and farm HRTs too.
@CrymsAI
@CrymsAI Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType thanks for sharing the hard work with us!
@shawnc5188
@shawnc5188 Жыл бұрын
@@CrymsAI DPS: Corsair > Connie. HP: Connie < Corsair. I don't use HOSAS so I prefer gimballed repeaters - Using the Corsair, you prioritize ballistic fighters, like the Buccaneer and Avenger Stalker, then everything else in VHRT is shield management.
@yoruzaki
@yoruzaki Жыл бұрын
As always - thank you for the research and a great video! ❤ Do you have a preferred place to bounty hunt now? Is the Crusader still the most convenient place in your opinion?
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out, and for your kind words! Crusader is still top IMO, but arc corp is a decent option as well due to only having two moons that can spawn bounties and both moons having very low atmospheric drag, meaning you can travel to/from your bounties at speed and maneuver well.
@veghx
@veghx Жыл бұрын
Best bounty tier lists on the web
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! That's such an awesome compliment
@nathanforrester5140
@nathanforrester5140 Жыл бұрын
Cool cannot wait to watch it!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy it! Let me know what you think!
@aaronballard9119
@aaronballard9119 10 ай бұрын
I run the Connie and absolutely love it. It shreds bounties
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 10 ай бұрын
I love the connie as well! One of my favorite ships in the game for sure!
@dannyfettt
@dannyfettt 10 ай бұрын
What a FANTASTIC video
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I really love to hear that you liked it :)
@anthonyross5769
@anthonyross5769 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the retaliator. At first I was having buyers remorse after grinding bunkers and seeing how incomplete it is. But now. Now it's all I fly. It's saved me a couple times from ramming ships, astoids, and even a planet. Took the hit and recovered. On top of that. Those size 9s make shit go BOOM.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
One of us! One of us! Everyone's always talking about using eclipses and I'm like "look I know it looks great... but the retaliator is a beasttttt". And I love the little airlock in the ground for a quick exit on any place with gravity lol
@anthonyross5769
@anthonyross5769 Жыл бұрын
@WingZeroType I personally can't wait to see what it's like once it gets its rework. Next time it's available, I will for sure be buying one with actual money as I don't want to grind that again, like you said, it's beast. And it is. I feel unstoppable in it. Only time I wasn't is when I hit a big asteroid at max speed. That did not go well for me lol.
@anthonyross5769
@anthonyross5769 Жыл бұрын
@WingZeroType another thing I just thought of when that rework does happen is use the dual cargo bay in the retaliator to house two of the missile fury snub fighter ships. That would be amazing.
@shawnc5188
@shawnc5188 Жыл бұрын
Retaliators are the perfect solo ship for ERTs and critical beacons. Remember that with torpedo bombers, you have one extra torpedo. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acV9Z9qWq7C0lmQ.html
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyross5769 That's why I've started mining. Time for me to get revenge on the rocks!
@TheMartinator99
@TheMartinator99 Жыл бұрын
Youre back! Maybe i need to get back into this patch if it managed to get you back!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
I've always been here! It's just that 3.18 was such a content drought and so buggy that it was impossible to make effective content for it. And then once 3.19 hit and things kept getting wiped it took me a while to keep re-earning things so that I could properly test things out. I appreciate that people like my content but i didn't want to rush something out just to have something :) And yeah, this patch is pretty good, I'd say. Still got its bugs, but we've finally got some good gameplay going, if you ignore the frustrating size 2 shield bug that's been around since like 3.16
@TheMartinator99
@TheMartinator99 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Your videos got me from struggling to get beyond my 325a to owning almost every combat ship in November, i just stopped because the wipe was "any day now" for a month. This spring seemed hardly playable and im not too hyped about having to grind harder bountys from a warlock to something usable but good to know the game is playbale and moving :)
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@TheMartinator99 Haha thats awesome to hear, and yeah i was in teh same boat as you, i think most people were... just waiting for a wipe... and then just waiting for a playable game... lol
@zakdavis5638
@zakdavis5638 Жыл бұрын
So excited fr this video.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
even on youtube, the phone keyboard gets you, eh?
@zakdavis5638
@zakdavis5638 Жыл бұрын
Damn Samsung Keyboards
@nnguitar
@nnguitar Жыл бұрын
to be hit by your own missiles/torpedos (like in the Ares, Shrike) while firing them can be avoided by strafing up while firing! Always strafe up while firing missiles.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah this bug was fixed a while ago and I didn't realize it came back :) I wanted to mention it for folks that didn't know about it.
@masterkane5340
@masterkane5340 11 ай бұрын
I was loving the MVSA + AD5B gatling on these ships and undefeated in space lmao that was a sick combo in previous patches, haven't tried yet in this patch, tho.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
I don't like hybrids as much in this patch, right now I think full laser loadouts work best for vanguards, but the old loadout still works.
@masterkane5340
@masterkane5340 11 ай бұрын
@@WingZeroType Yea, seems to be the case this patch for sure
@funfact6880
@funfact6880 Жыл бұрын
Another Hawk W. People have slept on the DPS of this thing but now that we're post-pip wiggle and ballistic magazine nerf, they're going to have to start considering other ships than the Gladi and Arrow.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree - it's such a fun ship to fly but you definitely need to be on your toes lol
@hammermond
@hammermond Жыл бұрын
Great Video. We'll done.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@LisaSimpsonLiberal
@LisaSimpsonLiberal Жыл бұрын
great list! Any plans on making a hotas or hosas video?
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I use HOSAS and I will probably make a short video about my setup at one point. What kind of things would you be interested in seeing in that type of video?
@LisaSimpsonLiberal
@LisaSimpsonLiberal Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType I'm a freak for a superior keybind hosas guide 😍
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@LisaSimpsonLiberal hahaha ok I'll see what i can do :)
@user-ls9lx5gy1w
@user-ls9lx5gy1w Жыл бұрын
Great video! I see you put alot more effort into these videos than other creators, which will certainly pay off in the future. I just wonder, why do you focus so much on VHRT's? Are ERT's not worth doing anymore? I havent played in a while so idk if any changes have made them less viable. Back in 3.16 I did tons of ERT's with the connie, eclipse and even the gladius lol. Also are combat beacons just as viable as bounties or are the bounties still a superior way of making money?
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, but a lot has changed since 3.18. The short of it is that ballistics and missiles were nerfed, ballistics pass through shields a lot more, ships have between 50-60% ballistic/missile damage resistance, and all bounty targets have significantly more hull hp. Also, reclaimers were added as enemies in HRTs and up. Because of all of these things, high dps ships are much better at bounties than lighter ships such as the gladius since dps matters a lot more. The reason why I pick VHRTs is because chaining VHRTs back to back tends to pay more than trying to do ERTs in any ship other than the torpedo ships because hammerheads take SO LONG to kill since the hull hp buff. Also, now that the enemy AI is running much better on most servers, hammerheads are extremely deadly, their fire isn't easy to avoid, and they will rotate their highest-hp shield faces towards you so you end up having to take down a lotttt of shields before you can consistently damage their hull. And yes, beacons are still the best way to make money, but the issue I have with them is that they're incredibly inconsistent. I almost never see them offered to me, and even when I'm trying to accept new beacons quickly I usually don't get them. So I don't want to suggest to others to try for them just because I think people will get frustrated with me recommending something that is usually unattainable.
@user-ls9lx5gy1w
@user-ls9lx5gy1w Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType thanks for the detailed answer! looking forward to what you make next!
@Tw33die84
@Tw33die84 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this vid. Just found it so yeah it's a late comment. It is weird to me how S and A tier has more non-fighters/combat craft than dedicated ones for that purpose. But I guess it'll all get sorted out in due time. I only have one of them - 600i - and never thought of fighting in it. Guess I'll have to try. I love the specs of the Corsair but HATE the looks, so could never own one. Sadly, I own ships which I like the look of, which mostly means they are terrible at actually doing stuff :) Nice vid and commentary anyways. Will watch more.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 7 ай бұрын
I always say "if you don't look back at your ship when you're walking away from it, you got the wrong ship" lol. I totally get what you're saying. I love the look of the connie so this works out for me, but I'm sort of torn on the corsair so i hear you. I am not a fan of the interior style, even though i like how well detailed it is.
@arcadealchemist
@arcadealchemist Жыл бұрын
conni is just redonkalus when you factor in you can keep shields up and use a turret if you set your Cruse control to a low setting, turrets are more viable i found espcially in atmosphere tho not beating a sentinal i would assume with a distrotion scatter gun
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Connie is totally rediculous, even the retaliator can just tank incoming damage if you get in a turret if there aren't a lot of enemies left thanks to its massive hull hp. I personally prefer using the missiles and original guns but that's because it usually doesn't take me too long to line up shots, even against hurricanes and wardens
@missing_nickname
@missing_nickname 11 ай бұрын
great vid! what is this timer on the left of an ui of a hammerhead section of the video?
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch! And the timer is an in-game timer that was added in the game since race tracks were added in the game so that people could time their own races more easily. By default it's not bound to anything but if you go into the advanced controls customization you can bind it to whatever you want. I have mine bound to the zero key -> press it to start/pause the timer and hold zero to reset the timer :)
@alphamedialabs
@alphamedialabs Жыл бұрын
Love this list, but would have loved to see the Mercury Star Runner on here as well, especially considering some of the other non-fighters you included. I expect it would rank low, but it does have speed and agility on its side for its size.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and the feedback. I left it off the list because it'd be low D tier and it's not really a fighter in any case. I wanted to keep all of the starter ships on the list so that newer players know what kind of performance they can expect from their ship (and how big of an upgrade other ships might be for them). And yeah, I kept the racers on there as well since people use them for combat thanks to their incredible maneuverability and small size. Unfortunately the MSR isn't particularly maneuverable or tanky for its size, especially when you consider the types of enemies you'll be going against in a VHRT (tanky enemies with really high turreted dps that can auto-track you). So it'd get lit up really fast. And then add on top of that it has really low pilot-controlled dps, and thats why I've left it out. I might cut out the racing ships for the next update if they're still low performing. It's hard to figure out where to draw the line, and I don't own most of these ships so it takes me a considerable amount of time to grind for them in-game after a patch wipe so I try to focus on the most likely candidates. I still appreciate the feedback though, and a few others have asked about the MSR so maybe I should include it next time (if the funds allow) lol
@alphamedialabs
@alphamedialabs Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType That absolutely makes sense! If we're able to connect without giving out details over the comments section, I'd be more than happy to let you borrow my MSR, even if you don't include it in your results
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@alphamedialabs thanks, I appreciate it! I have a discord if you ever feel like chatting with some cool folks about star citizen stuff. discord.gg/GBBMgujnWT
@stikxs
@stikxs Жыл бұрын
Noticed your mappings in the description, looking forward to finally trying to set up my gladiator. Also how are your fps in that build?
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
nice, good luck! It took me some time to do it and I was playing around in AC while doing it to make sure things felt right, but I'm pretty happy with where they've ended. My FPS has been pretty good, I honestly don't check it very often but its probably 50+ in space and 30ish in cities?
@malkowitch
@malkowitch Жыл бұрын
Harbinger gets torpedos and 2xS3 turret guns instead of 2xS2 as the rest. So if you fly with a gunner sometimes its helpful.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
yeah that's true, it's a 17% dps increase for the gunner if you have one, but personally I would prefer the more agile vanguards over the harbinger
@DevilbyMoonlight
@DevilbyMoonlight Жыл бұрын
I lost all my ships again this patch too.. but managed to scrape enough to get a titan, I dont plan to get another ship until I can afford an eclipse, bcause of the shield issue as well as another one I noticed with multiple rapid hits not registering sometimes I run the titan with deadbolts, you have to count your shots and reloads are often but it can still take down a HH with 3 or 4 reloads, it also seems they changed something with the HH, as when trying to steal an NPC HH as soon as you EVA close to it,nit now boosts off into the distance!
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
hahaha I love that your MO used to be trying to steal their ship. I mean, put yourself in their shoes. If someone was coming towards you that had a penchance for theivary, would you just let them punch your door down? I think not! But yeah I feel you on the losses, I lost a lot of ships in both 3.19 and 3.19.1. And dangit i hate that shield issue
@SRNF
@SRNF Жыл бұрын
The idea that they didnt address the shield bug ..... STILL ..... is crazy.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
it's killing me. Once they actually fix it bounties are going to feel so easy lol
@Stormyy6310
@Stormyy6310 Жыл бұрын
But whenever a glitch that can possibly get money for the players or even provide a little bit of fun will get patched instantly
@aguy446
@aguy446 Жыл бұрын
​@Stormyy6310 Funny how that works huh. You'd think it wouldn't matter since "it's An aLpHa"
@christopherwaltersjr3911
@christopherwaltersjr3911 Жыл бұрын
I've been able to get around it by sub-targeting
@Stormyy6310
@Stormyy6310 Жыл бұрын
@@aguy446 Yes lol it's crazy and then it all changes when CIG starts wiping they say "it's because it's an alpha what did you expect"
@-HRSH-
@-HRSH- 11 ай бұрын
that explored pop outs are hilarious
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
haha ty, glad you liked it :D
@Spartan536
@Spartan536 11 ай бұрын
Its gonna be interesting to see where the Inferno lands with the changes in 3.2, that accuracy buff the Inferno gets is gonna make it shred fighters if you can aim.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 11 ай бұрын
Yeah we'll have to see how big those aim assists are going to be. I believe both the Ion and Inferno are getting some aim assist back in 3.20 and the inferno is having its ballistic shot spray greatly reduced. It'll be very interesting to see if the inferno becomes useful for VHRTs after that.
@Spartan536
@Spartan536 11 ай бұрын
@@WingZeroType The spool up is still gonna be there but that accuracy increase and slight aim assist is gonna allow pilots to get much more range out of the gun. Currently it "shotguns" way too much to use effectively at its max distance. With the changes it could be quite effective at 2800 meters. Couple that with 20x S3 missiles (I run only S3 missiles it just works, I would run only S2 missiles but the internal bay is fixed, I love those cluster missiles), and you set the power to 70 shields & 30 engines and that thing should shred targets.
@Flakey86
@Flakey86 Жыл бұрын
Fav Vanguard setup is AD5B with MVSA cannons. Insane dps for 170 seconds and even after the ballistic is dry the MVSA canons do good work.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
For me, I prefer a full energy-based loadout. I feel like a hybrid loadout sort of gives up part of the benefit of ballistics, which is that they pass through shields. So theoretically, you'd be able to kill a ship without taking out its shields. But then you have to take out the shields to do damage with the laser weapons, so I feel like they sort of have opposing strengths. But I get what you're saying, and I think there are multiple effective loadouts. One quick note, I think the AD5B has 120 seconds of ammo, but your point still stands.
@Flakey86
@Flakey86 Жыл бұрын
You're right it's 120s. I was thinking of the Sf7B on the Inferno. You should try the AD5B loadout, pops the reclaimers insanely fast, like about 30 seconds. You can save the 5B for the meaty targets and use the MVSAs for everything else.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@Flakey86 I'll give it a shot, but the main thing I want to kill faster is the hurricanes and wardens since they're the ones that take forever b/c of their infinite front shields lol
@ehhhe
@ehhhe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I do “hrts” (they really seem like vhrts to me) on mt and i wasnt sure whether to go with the super hornet or the harbinger.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out! And ooo thats a tough question. The hornet will be better at getting close to the enemy and landing shots and getting away, but the harbinger will be better at killing the enemy, but it might struggle with killing or getting away from the wingmen. Do you typically kill all the enemies or just the target and leave? if you kill them all, i might suggest the hornet. If you just wanna get the target and go, perhaps the harbinger is good enough to quickly get the kill and tank the damage while it gets back up to quantum altitude.
@ehhhe
@ehhhe Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType thanks for the tips! So if I would use the harbinger then, would you recommend the ad5b or the deadbolt cannon for killing reclaimers?
@Swalsh308
@Swalsh308 Жыл бұрын
@@ehhhe I think the AD5B is better for killing Reclaimers. It has a total damage output of ~253,000 vs ~131,000 for the Deadbolt V, since the Deadbolt only has 80 rounds of ammo. I generally switch between the two depending on what I'm doing. I really enjoy using the Deadbolt to snipe light fighters though; it's very satisfying!
@Joshua.M.S.
@Joshua.M.S. Жыл бұрын
Video is great, spot on. I have a couple thoughts. The Sabre, as big as its hull is, is a pancake. If you can keep nose on target, your profile is still fairly small. Also, i think these bigger ships like the connie and corsair (the andromeda has a special place in my heart and i love it) need re-envisioned. Realistically, these ships have too much pilot controlled firepower and shouldnt be as good as they are solo in these VHRTs. I hope, once AI gunners come into the game, they consider this because these ships are just too good. I think the hammer head is far more balanced and a good example of a model these ships should follow. No large ship should be so good solo in my opinion. I know many of us have bought these ships on the store(myself included) and may be upset at such a significant nerf.. but it needs to happen.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the big ships. And honestly, I think the problem should sort itself out once master modes are a thing, since agility should play a much bigger role in whether or not a ship is able to effectively land it's damage. In that case, the larger ships will only be able to hit other larger ships, whereas smaller ships would be able to tank them. And you probably can't do a group VHRT solo then in a ship like this because you'd need to be able to kill all wingmen before leaving, since as soon as you enter your quantum mode your shields would go down.
@notlisztening9821
@notlisztening9821 Жыл бұрын
Getting my second ship soon and its a really touch decision. Idk whether i wanna go for a more universal daily driver like the connie, or get a dedicated, agile light fighter for when i feel like killin
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
what's your price range? The thing is you can get something like a gladius for about 1M and a fully kitted out connie can cost you close to 4M, so the prices are pretty different. But the gladius isn't a particularly effective moneymaker this patch so it's more for fun, whereas the connie can be a workhorse. So it really kind of depends on what you have currently, what you're looking to get into, and how much you want to spend.
@notlisztening9821
@notlisztening9821 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType doing mainly bunker missions with my cutlass, but i'd like to be able to throw in some combat beacons when i feel like it. Don't mind farming a few more mil for a different ship. I'd also be fine to return to the station to swap to a different ship, when i can get a strong maneuverable light fighter. Don't think something like the eclipse is fun beyond 9 torps a day, so i'm not gonna go for that yet.
@merlinfanboy556
@merlinfanboy556 Жыл бұрын
Having both the Taurus and the Warden in my hangar I feel very satisfied with this list. I made most money though doing VHRT bounties in Crusader. At some point I even found out that you can take and abandon contracts and only do bounties in asteroid fields around Yela as the Connie does struggle with atmospheric bounties.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Yep that's exactly where I do my bounties. The funny thing is I actually like taking the Connie into atmosphere on daymar because it slows down the other ships a bunch and makes them easier to hit, whereas I feel like my Connie is pretty slow anyway so it doesn't matter lol
@merlinfanboy556
@merlinfanboy556 Жыл бұрын
Well that's interesting, I definitely preferred the ability to quantum away as soon as I got the job done to prevent further damage. Also good to know that the Taurus is the least durable, I did have the feeling that it was not as tanky as it used to be. Also I got killed multiple times by a missile through the glass of my cockpit and my ship was fine.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@merlinfanboy556 and yeah I just point straight up at 90 degrees and boost until i'm at quantum altitude and go to an OM, it usually takes a few seconds but my shields almost never go down
@merlinfanboy556
@merlinfanboy556 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType well for now I'm fine grinding bounties (got my dream ship the Phoenix in 3.19 and luckily kept it through 3.19.1) but I'll definitely do more experimentation when 3.20 drops
@evictor99
@evictor99 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how little PVP and PVE tier lists have in common.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's basically a completely different game lol. I think it might be interesting if pvpers were forced into using certain classes of ships in tournaments though. It'd be cool to see like a 3v3 fleet type situation where people were forced to use at least one ship larger than a heavy fighter
@Funkiyy
@Funkiyy Жыл бұрын
Can't wait till bounty hunting is in this project! 😊
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
It's gonna be exciting! But also, there aren't a lot of ships that can take prisoners right now, right? Currently it's just the Hawk, Avenger Stalker, and Cutty blue i think?
@Funkiyy
@Funkiyy Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType that is correct but they could retrofit a lot of other ships to accommodate this feature once it's in place
@coldReactive
@coldReactive Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Santok is going to be pretty high up because with an SCM speed of 265 m/s (which is nearly 40 m/s more than the Khartul al) it is a very nippy ship. We don't know, however, the Pitch/Yaw/Roll, but considering in the last ISC they showed the big four thrusters flipping around much like the Fury's engine, it's safe to say it's going to be pretty nimble. The biggest downside I see is going to be its huge silhouette and likely fragile Hull. I'm not big on missiles myself, so a lot of these ships aren't really for me, with the exception of the Sentinel. The Vanguard Sentinel has slightly more speed in acceleration as it has the lowest mass of the Vanguards. The only problem is, when eWarfare comes out, the EMP is going to be removed from the Vanguard Sentinel, as the Sentinel wasn't actually meant to have the EMP.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
yep but EWAR probably isn't going to come out anytime in the next few years so for anyone buying in-game it wouldn't really impact their decision. B/c of the ewar thing though I do recommend people to buy the warden in my vanguard video since it's most likely to retain its combat capabilities of all the vanguards. about the santok yai... .i'm torn. I love the khartu al but it's just so unusable in the current state of the game. Too fragile and too large, and all the enemies have turrets that can shoot in any direction and basically don't miss lol
@shawnc5188
@shawnc5188 Жыл бұрын
I saw your posts on Spectrum.. the 3.19.1 wipe was something I sorta expected (so saved aUEC), and though I followed the instructions, I still lost my aUEC ships and components. The Corsair is perfect for everything up to a Hammerhead in 3.19.1. I use gimballed repeaters, with 32 S1 Arrow 1 missiles to take out ballistic fighters. NPC Hammerheads are just too accurate to duel 1v1 now. For Eclipse/Retaliator - I found that firing S9 torpedos from 8km to 6km works 90% of the time - and I switched to Typhoons I had a better hit/miss rate. Once I fire, I turn 45 degrees to one side and close in to create a distraction.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
Oh interestion, you're the second person to mention typhoons to me - do you have issues locking them? I've had issues locking IR torps from range in this patch. When you close in, how close do you get to the enemy? And how fast are you going when you fire? Sorry for all the questions but I want to see if i can replicate this success rate lol
@shawnc5188
@shawnc5188 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType Typhoons/IR missiles have lock issues with Hurricanes, so I need to close to under 4km. Everything else can be popped at around 8km. I personally find seekers have a higher failure rate (they go dumb after you fire them). Retaliator I fire at HH at 8km, Eclipse at 6km, both from under 100ms speed. Yea, I'm taking advantage of the 'unaware' NPCs - I've been blown by Reclaimers at 3km in my Eclipse, so I don't do the 'charge in and distract' - now I turn 45 degrees and come close to 4km to add a distraction. I do a lot of single ERTs with my torp ships, then with the last torp, I switch to group ERT and torp the HH, get the other two markers with my Corsair.
@shawnc5188
@shawnc5188 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType I just tried firing 9 S9 Typhoons at HH from 8km, all hit. Server was 90+ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mqddl5aYyt2Yhp8.html
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
@@shawnc5188 yeah I've definitely seen the dumb-ification of EM missiles in this patch, it seems the target needs to be actively engaging you for the missiles to work. But that's why I fire them from 3.2k range, and that has worked well for me. As long as the IR torps will lock teh hurricane i have no issue firing from under 4k, since that's what I do anyway lol. Thanks for following up, I'll try this out!
@jasonyip6823
@jasonyip6823 Жыл бұрын
helped me decide what to buy next#
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType Жыл бұрын
that's great to hear! That's why I started making these videos - I wanted more help figuring out my next purchase lol. I hope you're pleased with yours! What'd you get?
@jasonyip6823
@jasonyip6823 Жыл бұрын
@@WingZeroType i actually got the sentinel in the end works like a charm
@sneakyfishiix8014
@sneakyfishiix8014 3 ай бұрын
I've found opening an engagement with a volley of missiles makes all the difference.
@WingZeroType
@WingZeroType 2 ай бұрын
It helps a lot to get some early damage in, that's true. That's probably even more true now in 3.23 given how painful it is to disengage from combat
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