Ha. Great s/n.

he's still 64. One more year.

Why not the original cast playing THEIR characters?

I give all Star Trek a chance. There are a lot of racists who hate this show. But it's also just terribly written. Watch the Nagus from DS9. That's really good writing. It's not the best episode of DS9, but there's nothing in Discovery that is written that well.

Poor whiny baby

🤣This comment was kind of roller coaster🤣

I think Emo Moll could have been in Space Balls. Becoming queen of the Breen by convincing them that you can resurrect the dead when you can't is just farce. But I'm glad that Burnham told us there's enough diversity in the universe we don't need anymore.

Get over yourself and enjoy life more.

Blu del Barrio has a movie that's just started filming. Anthony Rapp is touring his successful one man show. Doug Jones has been a recurring guest star in What We Do in the Shadows, and is looking to play more roles without makeup, similar to how Andy Serkis is doing more outside of mo-cap. Mary Wiseman has an upcoming TV show on Netflix. Wilson Cruz has recurring roles on three series right now and has a movie lined up for later this year. Sonequa Martin-Green has movie coming out this year.

I thought you people were supposed to be nice.

​@@bshaddo I'm nice. I didn't mention the fact she all ready tried to eat the clothes of the person to her right.

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And this is said about every new Star Trek. When the movies came out, people complained about the updated Klingons. When TNG came out, people complain about it. When DS9 came out, people complained about it. When Voyager came out, people complained about it. When Enterprise came out, people complained about it. 'Fans' are the worse. Not every show is going to appease everyone, and every show has a different spin on how the story is told. Let people enjoy what they enjoy, don't need to get online and complain. This is Star Trek. It may not be YOUR cup of tea, but it is Star Trek irregardless.

@@SimpleGeekReviews That's not true, just look at the rating, discovery is ranked worst of all the shows. Meanwhile Strange New Worlds has good ratings.

Had good ratings & only had that because people had hopes it was going to be trek. It isn't. It's trash but still waaaay better than std. People griped concerns about the other shows but they proved themselves. This show proved nothing except its a turd & was largely responsible for sinking paramount + with its poor writing, story theft, pushed agenda, & gross budget spending.

@@phisheray7746lmao Disco is the reason there even is a Paramount+ in the first place

Discovery is Star Trek.

The fact that LGBTQ people simply existing in the cast seems like a "shout" to some people today means I'm very glad they did it. It shows it's necessary! Just like the original series having Uhura (a black person), Sulu (a Japanese person the generation after WW2), and Chekhov (a Russian during the Cold War) was considered SHOUTING about equality and representation in the late 1960s during the original series. Existing isn't a narrative.

Who's shouting about it? There are only two times when it even came up at all: * Stamets rejecting Mirror Georgiou when she hits on him by saying he's exclusively gay. * Adira declaring their pronouns, the same way ANY awkward teen would declare an invisible identity, since it takes time to realize that about oneself. It's also basically the same as how someone has to correct the pronunciation of their name on the first day of school. Even the most enlightened society will always have that issue. Compare it to pre-2005 Trek: * Roddenberry specifically pitched the show to Takei as a depiction of "starship Earth," and carefully constructed it to include as much representation of the people of Earth as he could get away with. * The central thesis of Star Trek as a whole is that seemingly implacable foes can learn to communicate in order to solve problems, as seen in "The Corbomite Maneuver," "The Devil in the Dark," "Errand of Mercy," "Arena," "The Enemy," "Darmok," "Emissary," "The Ship," "Dawn," "Stratagem," "Terra Prime," etc. * Roddenberry said "We will delight in our differences" and "Diversity will be our strength" which is an endorsement of the salad bowl theory of multiculturalism over the melting pot concept of assimilation. * The very first broadcast episode "The Man Trap" has Uhura recognize Swahili as a major plot point. * Uhura says "Sorry, neither" in response to an intoxicated Sulu calling her a "fair maiden." * Chekov constantly referred to his identity by attributing everything to Russia. * Uhura's identity was directly invoked by President Lincoln. * Roddenberry promised gay characters in TNG, right up to the time of his death. * Sisko's Creole and African heritage is constantly referenced through the food of his father's restaurant, and even his middle name. * Institutional anti-Black racism in the United States was directly referenced in at least four episodes ("Past Tense, Parts I&II," "Far Beyond the Stars," and "Baddabing, Baddabang"), and strongly influenced not only the depiction of the Benjamin/Jake father/son dynamic, but the series finale of DS9, itself. The new shows proudly continue Trek's tradition of representation and commentary.

@@DLZ2000 WELL said!!!

I love people making comments like this. Clearly shows you dont understand the show or have ever been a part of the Star Trek universe.

@@landonfolken03 then you have just shown how poor you are at reading anything really.. ive been a trekkie since i was 12 i'm 42 now.. i have met most the cast at london's excel at the 5 captains event. I have a hugh collection and signed sets. The world of star trek already put these current day issues around gender and identity behind. The whole point of gene roddenburys vision was that we moved on past that and we focussed on science , exploration and discovery not focusing on how a girl identifies as a boy.. There was always acceptance of others and learning different species way of living. How discrimination is still present even in modem federation. But rarely was it the focus point for every episode. And as i say, i don't hate disco it had some great episodes and good acting. but the plastering the message was too forced and is a reason why they were loosing numbers.. fact. Where Strange New Worlds have gotten stronger by keeping it within the framework of genes vision. Each episode has it's own story and keeps it around exploration

You can have your free voice. Doesn't mean people have to agree with you or that it doesn't face opposition or consequences. And honestly, Conservative beliefs are antithesis to what Star Trek has been. Its always been progressive, its always talked about injustice, oppression, fighting against tyranny. Its about seeing the best in people, despite our differences. Its about tolerating those different than us. You can be conservative. But that doesn't give you the right to tell others they can't exist, they can't live their lives the way they want to live. Your beliefs should work FOR YOU and should not be a weapon to attack others for being different. If you oppose gay marriage or gay lifestyle, cool. You don't have to be gay YOURSELF. But you don't get to tell someone to not be themselves because you believe its wrong. Its not wrong, its just not for you.

@@SimpleGeekReviews I agree neither side has to listen to the other true. Conservative beliefs are NOT the antithesis of STAR TREK. By our very nature “Conservatives” wish to “conserve” or hold onto some fundamental traditions that are good for society like law and order, blind justice, the family and yes God. In the past it’s true that conservatives have used religion to oppress and control which is ABSOLUTELY abominable it goes against what Jesus taught “love thy neighbour” and we have learned that what was done by our ancestors is wrong and we despise it. While we can never make up for the harms we’ve done in the past we can ensure things change for the better. Fighting against tyranny is also apart of that, why do you think Sir Winston Churchill and the UK stood against Nazi Germany? Why did President Rosevelt have America stand against Nazi Germany? One conservative and one liberal did the same thing because Nazi Germany was pure EVIL. Seeing the best in each other and celebrating our differences is a core part of being a conservative. Sure, there are things we disagree with and don’t like but we (in the modern age) don’t discriminate against it (or those that do shouldn’t). And again, you are right but also a liberal doesn’t have the right to do the same and I agree with you. I will NEVER tell someone they can’t live how they want, as long as it’s of their own free will and they are harming no one else then fine, I may not like it but I won’t hurt or discriminate against someone, I’ve come to know a lot of trans people and they are my friends; my friend Ada she was born male and now she’s a woman and she’s like the little sister I’ve never had and I love her. They (including Ada) know I’m a Christian and we treat each other like human beings and help each other out when needed. I hate when people use the bible to attack others cause that’s not what the bible is and when some of my other friends start shit I tell them to stop cause it’s not right. It stands against what Christ is about, it’s people that have turned and twisted the bible into a weapon that’s wrong. I don’t support gay marriage or the life style but like you said its not for me and I don’t interfere with people that do and we shouldn’t be force to support it either. The intendent with Mr. Cruz boils down to me correcting him on the “don’t say gay bill” and what it was really about and what it did and saying some quite nasty things about Senator Cruz and I ask him to stop. I’ve had debates with Mr. Rapp and some got testy but at the end of the day we got on great and he’s a good actor and I love how Paul has changed and how he’s portrayed him. Star Trek at least under Roddenberry and Berman always was progressive and that’s fine but it NEVER said that to be conservative is wrong or evil or standing against what trek stands for. What Trek says is examine both sides of the argument and THEN make your own choice because you can be wrong you’re not a god. And as a Christian and a conservative THAT is why we love star trek.

If you’re spewing bigoted bullshit at him, he’s not obligated to accept your BS. Conservatives have made queer folks life hell, why would he put up with that

Simple Geek: brava/bravo!

​@@SimpleGeekReviews Well, You can be a conservative and like Star Trek. You have to be tolerant, but you have to also be for individual freedom, hard work and independence, quote from the Constitution, and know when to work for peace and when to work for defense. You should not be so idealistic as to join a cult, and not have a society run by a large computer or system. Freedom. You will love it. And if there is a contrary political system that is supporting one side of a civil war you might have to support the other side and do so in an equal matter so is not to create a arms race into Oblivion. In short, The Vietnam War may have been inevitable. I think the values of Star Trek are the values of conservatives.

Lmao 🤣 this show will live on and haunt you forever, it’ll never be buried when it’s groundbreaking in diversity for Trek. It will always be a central part of Trek. You’ll be ignored and buried but Discovery will not be.

@@CaptainPikeachu nah, its a flop. Trek had more than enough diversity even before that. That is not the issue here, its the horrible writing, terrible characters and bad actors. You probable have no taste and 0 criteria so you can enjoy this. Most ppl cant, that is why paramount is broke

I have to agree. Star Trek had already broken the boundaries of gender and racial diversity decades ago. The only new thing here was that they had an African-American female as the main character. Which is great! People just eat up all of the press coming from Alex kurtzman and the ill-informed entertainment news media and don't do their research to understand that most of these subject matters were done previously and much better in previous iterations of Star Trek. Just like all of the hackneyed and well troddened tropes that this show recycles, they would have you believe that they are breaking boundaries that no one has ever broken before. The quality of any scripted entertainment comes down to the storytelling and character development. This show has failed dreadfully in both areas.

@@CaptainPikeachu I watch the entire star trek series every year. Starting from the original series and working my way up. I end it at Enterprise because the new shows are unwatchable garbage. I haven't added a single Alex Kurtzman Trek to my watch list while I cycling through those shows. They are are now just horribly written filler content for Paramount's streaming service. They've devalued the brand and spent all the money on CGI and sets instead of competent writers and it's completely killed any interest I have. No one is tuning out because of diversity. What people tune out over is the fact that the "Diversity" Is poorly written, poorly acted, and uninteresting. That's why they are tuning out. The two worst actors on Discovery are Blu del Barrio (Adira) and Ian Alexander (Gray Tal). They deliver lines like a cold dead fish, and their entire story is poorly written relationship drama. When I compare Adira and Gray Tal to other Trill characters in this series from say DS9 they are the least interesting, and the worst acted out of them all. We are in the age of Streaming service filler content Trek. Where the sets and CGI matter more then the quality of the shows writing or acting. We are getting Vampire diaries quality writing rooms, with super high budget movie level CGI and sets. Bring back the high quality writers rooms and drop the expensive sets and CGI. Shiny looking visuals aren't why anyone cared about Trek in the first place.

Meh, there's nothing wrong with the cast, and most of them are good actors, but they were let down by the sappy writing and poor directing. Maybe if they'd hired SCI-Fi writers instead of drama writers it would have been better.