They were great sequels.

They wanted to lighten up after the darker tone of the second and third movies.

They say 4 was the funniest an the more funnest of them all loved star trek 4 voyaged home

Voyage home sssssssuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkkkeeedddd. Like watching 2 hours of filler.

No whalers in the 23rd century.

@@Goodiesfanful Isn’t that what Mary just said?

Where no one will hunt them? Why aren't there any Japanese in the 23rd century?

@@samadams7224 bit stereotypical there bud

I realize it is pretty off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch new series online ?

Not smiling - just a grimace

Not only was he smiling he straight up threw Gillian into the water

@@klein2042 So?

Of course. He's half-human.

Yes, I noticed Spock smiling a lot.

I was thinking the same thing!

I dont think thats joy. I think thats dealing with water all over your face. Thats not a smile thats more a grimace imo

@@philswaim392 I looked it up. Apparently he was laughing and smiling with the crew. As he was happy for the whales and for the world.

@@coolcucumber372 hmmmm weird

I've always wondered if Shatner pulling Nimoy into the water was scripted or spontaneous. It looks like Kirk surprised Spock and everyone was laughing. What a Joyful moment🖖

I know. Even though they had been hunted to extinction the whales communicated with the probe and saved the world. They could have been silent, but they saved the world instead.

Yes, me too Scorpius1691; it is up to an extinct organism of the past to save the Earth and it's inhabitants. Quite heartwarming, hopeful, and touching if you ask me.

Ditto

I remember seeing this one an theaters people where cheering an everything especially when the saw enterprise A

seeing spock smile did the same to me. It really adds to the joy of the scene seeing him allow himself to be half human.

From the novelization?

@@Timeward76 yes

I had no idea that they attached an actual conversation in the story. I mean it makes sense in universe, but that they fleshed it out for us the "reader" to know what was said, I had no idea.

Thanks for sharing; good insight into the story 40 years later!

Official translation from the official novel of the movie: [Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?' They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well. The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.

Probe was all "Dudes I want a double che bacon side gravy" Whales were all, "Coming right up."

HAHA! Love that comment!

Hahahahahahaha. Good one. A fellow Douglas Adams (RIP) fan, obviously.

rj frame *We tried to warn you all, but oh dear* .

So sad that it has come to this!

Fascinating

Right! I can’t watch those new movies, so crap!!😟

It's a great time travel story and also the most FUN of all star trek movies!

One of the best Treks!

Um. Nah. The abrams films were all better than this one. This is still a good film. But basically just a psa about whales

@Seth Thomas thats why i said its still good. But i reject the claim that this movie is vetter than the Abrams films.

Looked like a pipe with some dirt inside.

Roddenberry was a satan worshiper (truly, his personal associations were L Ron Hubbard and Aleister Crowley) and for all we know, the artificial future he envisaged was planted in his mind by the devil, to spread to the world for instance the concept of beaming from here to there implies there is no human soul ... think about how that impacts your subconscious why you think there's such a slavic like following by "trekkies"? trek is a religious cult

anon at least have the courage to sign your own name to your (poor) attempts to troll.

watch Roddenberry's son's documentary and you'll learn what I learned about the man ... facts r facts

Regardless, Star Trek has valuable lessons to be learned. Also, FYI, Roddenberry wasn't that involved in the making of this film.

I only we could rid the world of hunters

maybe posible but the thing im curious is what are the whales and the probe saying to eachother , is there a possible tranlation

@@Joshuajacobson95 I'm wondering that too.

Translation is in the novelization of the movie.

@@Joshuajacobson95 in the opening scenes of the movie, the probe's signal is supposed to be translated as "Where are you?"

@@Joshuajacobson95 Official translation from the official novel of the movie: [Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders?' They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well. The traveler fell silent. The whales bid it farewell. The traveler collected its energy. It ended its interference with the patterns of the blue-white planet. It ceased to power the violent storms ravaging the surface. It sought its usual course, oriented itself properly, and sailed on a tail of flame into the brilliant blackness of the galaxy.

Well Richard to answer your question as to whether whales are from another planet we may never truly know there are a lot of mysteries still out there in our world just as there are probably money that lie beyond our star system.....

Sorry about where I said money, it should have been many. Typo alert!

We're fairly certain humpback whales evolved on Earth. The species that created the probe were likely very much like them though. Kinda like humans and Vulcans.

@Hendrix King Erie, (as in Lake Erie)??? lol

Good thing that all of them knew how to swim.

Clever!

With Vulcan crewmembers, to mind-meld with the whales and get their permission. Otherwise, it's just whale-napping.

It wasn’t entirely hunting that made the species disappear. It was those cunningly disguised star ships taking them to the 23rd century century too.

Yeah, they answered the Probe/Traveler's question. The answer saddened it that it and its creators didn't even consider their allies/friends were facing extinction and were unable to cry for help because they lacked the means to send an SOS. Their extinction was very much it's fault as much as the humans. It's why even though tempted, the Probe couldn't kill the humans: the probe would be no better than them. So it accepts that it needs to leave and make its report and this time be more readily available to the young whales because their children will have questions about their lost ancestors and only it has the answers. And as the novels would show...the humans have learned of its' mistake with the whales and show it that they aren't beyond saving too.

Thank you for taking the time to write this! I did not understand this (almost) final scene, even though I felt happy 😊

Indeed. So much so-called "inclusiveness." The visionary imagination is gone. All that's left is the action.

Me too.

@@ericburow6436 It sucks, doesn't it?

23rd century make-up technology.

I think he's grimacing because of the salt water. I don't know though. It looks a lot like he might be.

Interestingly, most people here would disagree with you.

Interesting thought. There was a line of dialogue which never made it into the final film explaining why Saavik chose to stay behind on Vulcan. Apparently she was pregnant with Spock's child as a result of her mating with him during his Pon farr in the previous film. Saavik was originally slated to return in STVI, but her role was rewritten into that of Lt. Valeris.

@@sephservant Just as well. The idea of Saavik framing Kirk and McCoy doesn't settle well with me.

It would take too long to learn about mustard.

Catch-up learning

Let's face it......if Kirk had looked like he did in the 1960's version, she would've hung on to him. Kirk was 55 years old by this point. What good is a 55-year-old to a 27-year-old???

Catch-up. Ya insipid fuck.

OMG perfect

Amber,why you did captions from both probe and George the whale on star trek 4 the voyage home? They not talk you saw on my ABC affiliate wfaa-tv Dallas in 89-90.

"Oh yeah, we also nearly vaporized the oceans, which is your home, searching for you. Hope you don't mind that."

Lol

The whales don't know that they traveled in time.

ForceMaximus84 lol because they too appreciate the classics. Big Hollywood or not

Even the Borg found it difficult to destroy the problem. I don't think xindi are that resilient. Nevertheless, a good question.

@@pviveknair also you do have to remember one thing by that point I believe the five Xindi races had become part of the Federation so it wouldn't have been them that sent the probe.

In the 23rd century the water wouldn't be polluted anymore

No, but the water must've been close to 90 degrees F., due to global warming, in which the temperature of the oceans didn't stop rising until the late 21st Century.

@@MrDavidh4another risk is kelp disappeared by the time they need them to remove itches and parasites unless a lab cloned the kelp they need to survive

Sad that you ruin this discussion by a foul obscenity.. is that the best you can do?

@@TheRichardSpearman yes I agree. It's a beautiful scene that doesn't deserve that language

Dont feed the troll people!

Spock I think explained that Humpback Whales went extinct in the 21st century so it's likely that Earth's environmental conditions continued to deteriorate and this combined with World War III and the aftermath likely reduced their numbers to the point of no return. I get what you're saying though, blue whales and bowhead whales would be the ones more likely to die out.

Today another dire situation is the grey whale as well there are 14,500 individuals almost equivalent to the blue whale due to sea ice retreats

In the Probe novelization when Spock mind-melded with the whale probe, he learned that the aliens who built it were of similar features to the humpback whales. The movie established that the race had been communicating with the whales 10 million years ago.

ladyfire44 " Only human arrogance would assume that the message *MUST* be meant for man ". Spock was right.

@@danielappleton6382 Spock's always right

The whales' ancestors must have built the spaceship with their opposable thumbs and dexterous appendages.....

@@jenpeterson3712 Except for the part where he tells Gillian that he likes Italian.

it makes sense. I would say they need to follow it back to its owners and make peace with them. Just its power source alone was able to destroy live on earth if they didn't get back in time.

Acquatic Xindi

Oh I'm sure they were able to tie into the closest Federation time base beacon!

SPACE WHALES!

This is true although I will add this they did have to give the male characters sideburn extensions but yeah I think at that point Bill shatner still had real hair I don't think he had a toupee yet! 😊

Subtitles were considered, but rejected. But there is a translation in the official novelised version: [Probe] Why did you remain silent for so long? They [The whales] tried to explain, but it reacted in surprise and disbelief. Where were you? it asked. We were not here, they replied, but now we have returned. We cannot explain, traveler, because we do not yet understand all that has happened to us. By "us," the traveler understood them to mean themselves as individuals and all their kind for millions of years in the past. By their song it recognized them as youths. Who are you? it asked. Where are the others? Where are the elders? They are gone, the whales sang, with sadness. They have passed into the deep, they have vanished upon white shores. We alone survive. Your song is simple, the traveler said, chiding. It was not above petulance. Where are the tales you have invented in all this time, and where are the stories of your families? They are lost, replied the whale song. All lost. We must begin again. We must evolve our civilization again. We have no other answer. The traveler hesitated. It wondered if perhaps it should sterilize the planet anyway despite the presence of the untaught singing youths. But if it began a new evolution here, the planet would be silent at least as long as it would take the traveler to circumscribe the galaxy. The traveler would have to endure the pain of the world's silence. Organic evolution required so much time. Besides, the traveler possessed very little cruelty. It could consider destroying the young singers, but the conception caused great distress. It abandoned the idea. Very well, it said. I shall anticipate young stories. Fare thee well.

During the communication the probe was asking why the whales haven't been in contact with them for centuries. George(the male humpback) sadly explained that man was heavily hunting them down and their race went extinct. He and his mate, Gracie, came from the past to help save earth and speak on Kirk and his crew's behalf. Upon learning what happened to the whales, the probe asked if they wanted it to destroy humanity. George refused stating not all mankind are terrible people using Kirk, his crew and Dr. Gillian as prime examples. The probe accepts their request and deactivates it's probing device. Thanking George and Gracie for speaking to it, the probe leaves to restore the powers to the Space Dock and the ships.

@@Goodiesfanful The Probe and the Whales sound like they're fairly alien in mindset when compared to Humans and other Humanoid races, like they barely acknowledge the existence of Humanity and land dwelling lifeforms.....

@@ladyfire44 Yeah, the Humans of the 23rd century shouldn't be wiped out for the crimes of some of their ancestors and George and Gracie realized this which pleases me.

ryan macdonald you are not fat wrong. In the Star Trek wiki the probe and the aliens who built it regarded humans as “mites”.

She studies the 2-300 years of science she missed and becomes a science officer, if I'm not mistaken.

Probe: we missed the finale of Friends. What happened? Whale: Ross and Rachel got back together. It was nothing you hadn't seen before.

Raphael Perales it’s amazing to think he was bald irl when Star Trek started in the 60s, and they had to weave a hairpiece onto Shatner’s Head every day in the make up chair, and no one was the wiser.

Maybe he got a Morrie brand wig like in Goodfellas!

Donald Trump is the most recent recipient of this technology.

"One damn minute captain"

This movie is priceless. I'm glad Sarek was included off and on during the film