Correct

Only problem with the Orville it was cancelled this is the last season.

@@DarthVader-1701 No it's not. It was a rumor aka "Fake news"...look it up

After almost killing off Netflix with STD = Sexually Transmitted Disease = Star Trek Discovery, CBS = Complete Bull Shit wants to kill off Amazon with a new variant of STD called Pikard !

@FIDIRONU I could barely get through the first episode. It has basically every SJW trope there is. And worse, it wasn't funny at all. It still bewilders me why people praise this show so much

Which makes sense.

@@davidsanders5652 Especially in the Kaylon Earth attack episode where the Union ships being destroyed were all named after scientists.

Shh he's too busy trying to make them sound uncreative while knowing nothing about his sacred cow.

It's still funny that there's a town in California with a similar name.

@@iamanevutable981 Considering most cities are usually named after a natural feature or someone famous, I would be shocked if there isn't a city named after a famous person.

Implying that what DeviantArt comes up with would be somehow worse then what we get here.

It's been done. I'm putting my money on it now before I go to the search bar.

I would rather not think about it

Rule 34 buddy!! Rule 34! XD

"Imagine Dr. Pulaski as an anthropomorphic cat... but we don't wanna attract the furries, so make her ugly as sin." "We know, sir. You said Dr. Pulaski."

If ur honest no way does the Orville stack up against the full Trek Cannon. It is absolutely better that JJ Trek & especially Kutzman Trek.

Any news on season 3 of the Orville yet?

@@tt3925 The Orville is its own franchise now, so they are building something there.

@@Mangomesh The only news I know of is that production is halted as long as there are covid-19 issues in Califonia.

"Seth Trek" _The Orville_ is the spiritual successor to ST:TNG written **by fans for fans.** _Star Trash: Disaster, Star Lard: Retard_ and _Star Wreck: Lower Dreck_ are written by non-fans for non-fans -- and it shows. Missed the entire fucking point of what Star Trek was about: A journey about self discovery with space as the backdrop. If Alex "Klutzman" can't even bothered to watch ST:TNG and learn WHY it was good then I can't be bothered to watch his crap.

The distance people will go to prove they are not in fact racist, huh. Most people would just say "I'm not racist" and move on, but Kurtz is probably really racist.

Crayons

Alex kurtzman dosnt know a Klingon look acts any more then what a Vulcan should act like 😒 he practically was contracted to put Star Trek in Ruin.

Nobody Can Know My Secrets yea true, just never understood that look, this guy and Abrams really have a crappy vision. All their ideas just visually are so plastic, nothing organic

Lichslayer 004 very true, and what’s worse is he’s only using Abrams ideas on top of it, so he’s unoriginal on top of having bad taste

She’s also just ‘better’ than Boimler as she exposits during the show. Total Mary Sue. Literally didn’t laugh once.

Who could have foreseen this!?

I think the point is that the characters are going to develop

Even her parents hate her. Good job writers. Not even the characters in the show like her.

I bet somes guy in a suit thought copying Rick and Morty but with a star trek skin was a good idea

Unfortunately, today's pretender Trek has been so badly botched that Galaxy Quest is no longer just a parody.

I'd rather have a Galaxy Quest series than The Orville.

MN Irwin ......”By Grabthars Hammer........

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 Wait, so they would just be actors playing the parts of the crew and not flying a real ship? Cause in a series, they would be actors, but since it's the series we are seeing, they would be the crew, Galaxy Quest the series would be so meta, we wouldn't be sure if they were on an actual ship or not, lol

Future Real Life will probably end up looking like Star Trek, Star Trek has inspired so much technology from smart phones to tablets, to Bluetooth headsets, those were way back in the TOS when Uhura had one as the communications officer, even NASA is developing warp technology based on feasible scientific concepts that were first introduced in Star Trek, I just hope they get the transporter/teleporter technology correct, cause the Montauk gate had a lot of problems with wave synchronization when dealing with refractory surfaces at the point of arrival.

Definitely! They even have the same 😾 cat.

Is it the same character designer?

It is animated by one of the people on that show.

this show is made to bring younger kids into star trek

The look is as far as it goes, the show is terrible.

Yep. One of the things that turns me off from reviewers like this (and keeps me from subscribing) is that the hatred is so one dimensional that they’ll stretch things out to make their point. Everything in the Orville comparison section was a HUGE stretch - and not needed to make a point. Kurtzman is ripping off a lot, but Orville isn’t one of them - focus on ripping off Rick and Morty - that anyone can plainly see. When you have stuff like this that’s just not very good, you don’t need to make things up to prove your point. The host has obviously long ago stopped making good arguments and is now just playing to the lowest common denominator.

Richard Ludwig i think Little bit

@@richardludwig3673 so where auppose fawn over the new show and say its good to satisfy SJWs???? if its bad , then call it out

Ripped off? It's the staff behind R&M that made Lower Decks, so pretty safe to assume same vibe. It's like saying the new Ridley Scott movie is a rip off of Alien :-P

@@richardludwig3673 their desire to trend always outweighs any actual opinion they might have

Well baby I hear the blues a-callin'...

I like the one where his psycho agent Bebe fakes throwing herself off a building. Fraser scolds her for being insane and she says, "...aren't you glad I'm on your side?".

I kept fast forwarding 10 seconds here and there to get past some of the ‘cringe’ moments.

Your point would have been more valid had you not said I switched to Frasier

@@thedrno4901 Dumping on Frasier automatically invalidates your opinion though. And truthfully, he could tuned into the home shopping network and it would still be a step up from Lower Decks.

For all the things you could say about Seth Mcfarlane, at least he seems to understand and respect Star Trek.

It' because you need to be fan of the original of your parody to make a good parody. Those last ST series are made by people with no affinity with ST universe except the delusion to make money seeing ST only as a cash machine. There is no love of ST universe in those last ST installments.

Galaxy Quest was barely parody. It was clearly made by people who love Star Trek.

@@CyrilGazengel Great point.

because they have love behind them,

Kind of hard to spin in your grave when you were cremated, and your ashes shot out in space. Maybe they should have put him on ice, like Walt was supposed to be.

@@toddnolastname4485 Maybe his ashes were caught in the matter stream of a proto star and someone will see his corporeal essence as a sock puppet during transport. BAM. Kurtzmen still can get strangled.

It could be a a0rtism thing you c0uld look into it.

@ well done I couldn't get through the 2nd episode.

This show is good and Picard is the best of all time lol. Sorry, had to disagree in the regard.

You don't know what you're talking about Roddenberry cared. Roddenberry was working on TNG up until he died. There was a Trek that existed in his life that he wasn't working on. "The man created a pilot with an all white cast" And then created a show with a so much diversity it shocked America. Roddenberry's vision was respected up until Kiltzman.

@ValorJ Omega youre full of it. why would roddenberry produce his writers guide if he didnt care? short story, he wouldnt.

@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes Don't know about sex addict, but he did have a problem with drugs. Question though: Are you really going to bring up his drug problems, over how good his show was? If you had made something beloved by such a huge audience, would you like to be remembered for your problems, or your accomplishment?

@ValorJ Omega so youre basing your opinion on a single source lol? and what do you mean "as well"? why do you assume i hold him on a pedestal? he created a great franchise with positive message and hopeful vision. that in no way makes him a saint.

@ValorJ Omega im not saying rodenberry didnt have helo create star trek but to say he didnt have much to do with it and that it was better without him is insane. ive been a trekkie for decades and been following the franchise and its goings on for decades. i know he was involved and had a vision and message. i just dont buy this revisionist crap. so whatever, believe what you want.

OUCH! LOL, good one.

Is that the latest one, where every character was so poorly written that I was rooting for the Mummy to kill them all?

LMAO

Wait Tom Cruise or Brendan Fraser?

The Mummy with Tom Cruise SUCKED.

Its doing so well they couldn't afford what CBS wanted for it /s, but I 100% believe more than a few nuTrek defenders have said this sincerely.

@@neiloch If they believe that then I have a lovely seafront property in Atlantis to sell them.

@@CeticWales Why not some flat with an excellent view and cute wildlife in Pripyat. 😉😋

They never started makeing a deal.

It's not a bad show. It's just any other comedy show with a star trek skin. The problem is that star trek and other elite tier sci fis have needy, snobby fans.

You shouldn't talk down on yourself like that. I am sure you were very funny as a child.

@José Hunter's EW&F Remixes Ah yes a defender of the show. How is it working out for you? Not well it seem that even the audience it was pondering to hated it as well. And before that they disabled the comments of the first trailer because of the massive backlash.

So it's Doug Walker but as a cartoon series?

Hit it on the head

@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes Did you even see Shapiro's school records?

Yeah, I had a look at the rest of this guy's channel and after watching the first episode I think it's pretty clear the primary reason he doesn't like the show. The same reason he doesn't appear to like anything that portrays women and minorities as competent.

Probably saves on artist wages, after all with such a generic style it would be easy to replace anyone without the audience noticing. There's also the issue of direction, if you can't have an original idea on paper, why would you expect them to have an interesting art style?

Because CalArts is a sin against God and an active atrocity against humanity.

Because most of the artists that get hired are unfortunately trained by CalArts. Which is pure trash.

Shitty?

Lack of creativity.

_Star Wreck: Lower Dreck_

Star Trek: Lower IQ

Star Trek: Lower Back Pain

Or "Star Trek: Shut the Goddamned Hell Up and Laugh at Our Trash Garbage"

Exactly! Straight up garbage when it could be so much better! At least if it was made better and looked better it would have that going for it. I've seen better from amatures on KZfaq!

I mean it works for some things but its over used

anyone else think that if they did the slight anime influence of the original clone wars shorts that would have been a bit better? tbh this was the family guy start trek we expected macfarlane to put his name on and other people to write.

@Shawn Carter because it IS lazy/

it’s nauseating, i can’t watch most animated shows because of that

neither will i man. i could make a better Trek animation then Bad Reboot.

@@MLPDethDealr32 the "artist" for this isnt the same person as rick and morty is it?

Also this guy: has a my little pony profile pic

@@rahmodin9209 at least its art style is distinguishable.

@@lindinle one of the Rick and Morty producers

Wait, now I don't know of any other R&M clones... Not that it's a good cartoon.

I used to like Rick and Morty, but it got boring.

@@bookonlegsbookonlegs8991 It's not as clever as it seems to think it is.

@@Slitheringpeanut The only characters I liked on RaM were Morty and Summer. And that the first season or two were like twenty minute science fiction movies. But soon it got really weird, mean spirited and boring. That and I have heard they have tried to make Summer gay now.

@LTNetjak Really I did not know that.

Agreed

Sadly I agree. Everything was great when they kept moving the epic odessy forward. But then they decided to focus on prequels. No, no, no. Find a fucking stellar cast, writers, and production. Move this forward for gods sake like TNG, DS9, and Voyager did so awesomely. I hate these prequels. Build on canon that moves us forward.

Star Trek is spelled with two upper case letters. Not only is it a franchise, but it's a proper noun being a name. How did you miss this when spelling God with an upper case G?

_Star Wreck: Lower Dreck_

I've been calling it Star Trek Abomination

more like "star drek; lower standards"

Touche I agree

YES!!!

The strings moving!!!!!!!!

mine

They all live in Elsewyr

Unfortunately I can't say if Cbs loves Punishment or there contract for Alex kurtzman and his bad robot/Secret Hideout is so iron Clad les moonves made to ensure Star Trek Destruction or humiliation would last long after he got kicked it. Alas Moonves thumb in the eye for the franchise he hated from the start his final spit would last on and on.

He's done exactly what they want him to do, make Star Trek more accessible to younger demographics. If that means destroying the soul of it, so be it. The new audience is 18-35., not really interested in philosophical questions, depth or having to think. They'd much prefer to be given mindless entertainment with a helping of wokeness. They've decided you and I as Trek fans aren't the primary audience anymore.

@@zoso1980 ...you know the majority of youngest fanbase of startreks also future scientist with stem programme in their school and....common sense, right. Are you just insulting these young"uns by saying they only interested in pew! Pew! ?

Really? Oh my! The first 4 minutes were soooo stupid, that I have to run away from the screen and read some books to prevent permanent brain damage. It is as low content stuff as if a 5 year old would try to put up a story after watching few episode of Next Generation. On the other hand, the REAL content is pure propaganda of the most vomit inducing grade. The "strong women" belittling, mocking and torturing "stupid man". With that statement I covered 90% of ALL the stories told. Spilling acid on the original Star Trek lore is something so trivial, that it is barely worth mentioning anymore. This kinda "art" makes me so sick inside that it is actually works great for you if you want to lose weight, but that is ALL the good I can associate with it.

meleardil 🤢🤮🤣👏fantastic

Really? Where's that? The science? Nope...the philosophy? Tik tok level. :V

You people assuming this is "his show"... NO! It isn't!!! The main writer and director are both from Rick and Morty and Final Space. Kurtzmann has no writing or directing credits on this show.

@@SwiftNimblefoot and that influence the story...how?

Seems more like "White men bad. Women good."

I worry that the series is just bad, and framing it around the White Male aspect is incidental. I don't think if you swapped any characters gender or ethnicity this could be improved.

Everything they do is anti white and anti white man specifically. The time of quality is over. Now is the time of propping up shitty people and giving them the keys to things we liked because white men and orange man bad.

that's basically ALL that comes out of holywood nowadays!

if women are so awesome then how come the only way you can make them look good is by making all the men look bad?

Alex: So, you want to work on one of my shows? Naive hopeful: Yes, sir. I've been a Trekkie since-- Alex: GET OUT OF MY OFFICE !!

24 Hours Later... Multimedia Man: So Alex, I started watching TNG to get a sense of how the Star Trek universe works... Alex: That was stupid, you're fired

@@Snesgamer I agree with you. There hasn't been any true ST since "Enterprise" was cancelled, and no high quality ST since DS9 went off the air. The current 'creators' are only interested in $$ or pushing an agenda, not in offering compelling and thoughtful, thought-provoking entertainment.

Hebruixe Me: Ooh, then you’re not gonna like who I managed to bring over... *Patrick Stewart walks in as Kurtsman goes into a fit of rage*

@@Snesgamer great..bring back endless dialogue.. philosophising and endless camera shots going round the same ship. Thankfully Star Trek has been updated to a contemporary audience. If we have people like this expert here directing..we would still have a 1960s version of Trek with 0 audience where it will be cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons. .and then more bitching ensue about the networks You never can win with a franchise like Trek as everyone is an 'expert' in this age of the selfie and self made 'bloggers 'n influencers' generation

So Star Trek Unflushed Turds?

Underrated comment, this needs more likes

Then there is "dry docking"; 1. Shut off the water to toilet. 2. Flush. 3. Drop a deuce in the bowl. Dry Docked. They will have to lean down near the bowl to turn the water back on to get a flush.

Or they just shit on the floor, completely missing the bowl.

After almost killing off Netflix with STD = Sexually Transmitted Disease = Star Trek Discovery, CBS = Complete Bull Shit wants to kill off Amazon with a new variant of STD called Pikard !

woke-culture feels guilty?? XD

They aren't trying to fight sexism with reverse sexism there is no such thing. They are fighting sexism with sexism and so they lost

Reverse sexism? You don't know that women are always oppressed, no matter what? On a more serious note, there is no such thing as "reverse sexism" - sexism works in both ways.

I love how people, primarily, if not exclusively, little straight white boys, totally miss the point of things like Star Trek and Star Wars. I can only imagine what y'all would have been like if there was internet in the sixties. I haven't seen the show, so I make no comment about it's quality, but I certainly don't mind a paradigm shift. Captain Janeway FTW!

@@stephenvelez9710 so what is the point of Star Trek and Star Wars? If you make a comment like that you have to then explain it when someone asks.

It would be watchable if it was funny, well written, well acted or not so overly woke. I really wanted to enjoy it but I couldn't stomach it anymore than ep 2

@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore i enjoy it as junk food. i do not laud it's quality in any way, but it's moderately entertaining and the animation is pretty good. It's bad star trek but not an *awful* show. Just mediocre.

@Social Hand Grenade Looking at your comments, I seriously can't tell if you're a troll, or if you truly are just THAT incredibly moronic. God Bless.

@Social Hand Grenade Clearly the orville was named for the inventor of popcorn.

Yes, Star Trek is based in the navy. The fact that the Captain has to **waste valuable time verbally telling** another officer _Shields up!_ or _Shields at maximum strength!_ or _Evasive maneuvers_ instead of just hitting a dam button himself which, at minimum, is a few seconds -- usually in a life and death situation -- means Gene Roddenberry didn't actually **think** about how a real starship should operate because he was used to the S-L-O-W speeds of ships on water.

It is like a space empire thing so a bit of suspension of disbelief is needed. Yeah it's a bit strange that I didn't like find a way round that right into the lore

@@MichaelPohoreski The captain has to give verbal commands so the (1966) audience knows what's happening. Should the captain say out loud "I'm raising the shields" while pressing a button or just press the button and hope the audience can guess what that means? Also, have you ever been on a boat or submarine? Verbal commands are given all the time, even for things that could be done by the person giving the order.

@@MichaelPohoreski Star ships don't act that fast in real space. There are vast distances and once you are running below light speed, you've got a lot of time. Of course you can assume differently, but this is a science fiction fantasy - you can assume almost anything. But former "real" Star Trek tried to be scientificly as correct as possible (at least since the movie era - they had a NASA adviser Jesco von Puttkamer). A science fiction series that tries to emulate starship fights as sailing ship fights of ships of the line of the Napoleonic era is David Weber's Honor Harrington series.

@@7superdaimajin I understand it was done for the audience. It is still horribly inefficient. (Efficiency and the military don't belong in the same sentence.)

Totally agree, Abrams' movies were the only additions I really disliked a lot, and still gave them 4 and 6 out of 10, trying honestly to evaluate ups and downs.

and counting

Considering STD, Picard and now this it's more nails than coffin now.

Yeah..straight down the shitter

Edward Washington hell, where no one needed it to go

I liked it too. I was a fan of TNG, voyager and Ds9. I didn’t like Picard but I do like Lower decks. I’m glad I didn’t listen to the hate train weeks before it release. I’m starting to wonder if this guy likes anything except his action figures.

@@andre9191 This guy is stuck in the 90's. He doesnt allow others to have a different taste. I stopped the video 1min in. Too much of a colored hate speech and no open mind. And that was made clear in 1 min :-)

@@beersmurff Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the guy who made this video (I don't watch this channel so I don't know his name) said that there's anything wrong with watching it. I don't really think he cares if individuals like a show he doesn't.

Star Trek: TAS proved that it would fail. Only 2 seasons.

ooh come on Star Trek TAS was utter crap

@@mondriaa It had some of the best Trek stories I've ever seen. Sorry the animation couldn't have been better but money talks and they only had so many words.

@@killjoydod4937 This was at a time when most Saturday morning catoons had 8 episodes they ran for 10 years. Star Trek The Animated Series is actually very good for a 70s cartoon show.

I think it's just supposed to be a comedy? Haha

OwO!!!!

Thank you for mentioning the Archer news, I had no idea. And it’s very soon! I’m happy it’s going to be agency focused because the first seasons were more entertaining to me.

Yeah anyone who says “I challenge this show to get a single laugh out of me”, is being disingenuous to say the least.

you are right

It's an awesome show. I don't know what this guy's problem is. He just hates on everything. Nerdrotic, you suck!

yeah, Captain Rudy Random. I used to remember the Equinox' registry number. its been years.

Just goes to show how little these people know anything about star trek.

@@MLPDethDealr32 NCC-72381 (Nova Class)

Mike McMahan also knows quite a bit about Star Trek. Lower Decks was inspired by TNG.

There are undiscovered indigenous tribes in the Amazon jungle that have yet to make contact with the outside world who are more knowledgeable about "Star Trek" than Kurtzman.

Yes. In fact, Captain Mercer (Seth MacFarlane) has a model of their flying machine on his desk.

One of the MANY things this "review" gets wrong...

Yes exactly. He's got no clue what he's talking about. If it was truly bad, I wouldn't have enjoyed it. I get the impression this show was made by Star Trek fans. Many of the references in the episode are so specific, that only hardcore Trek fans would know them. Like the Bat'leth which belonged to Martok, the space station from "The Search for Spock", and the fact that the ships doctor is a Caitian. Unlike Discovery and Picard, there are real attempts in Lower Decks to connect it to the canon of Classic Trek. This show is right up there with TNG, DS9 and VOY. This is the lighthearted Trek I need to see after the cringeworthy grimdark of DISCO and Picard, and I won't listen to anything else. I like what I like.

@sonoki82 Disgusting. Worf would have an aneurysm.

@sonoki82 and she clearly break the rule of non interference with foreign culture by giving them advanced tools very very bad. I watch it only to understand the critics after

*the intergalactic bowel obstruction*

Make poopy!!

Filmation made season 2 of that show in 1974.

I fucking love TAS

Who knows? I see it everywhere.

basically the premise for everything Hollywood's shit out in the last 3 or 4 years.

Much like they don't understand Trek I think they don't understand woke either. So many people are sick of an agenda being shoved down their throats, but representation and egality were core tenants of Trek and arguably it was Woke (or pretty close to it) for years prior to this. If they'd just made that instead of a characature of racial and gender stereotypes we might have had something decent, but as it stands they've not only missed the mark, they've turned round and accidentally shot the audience

You can't beat a winning formula that consistently produces record ratings. Oh wait.

Have you even watched it? WTF?

Arrrrrr, matey!

Give it a shot I made a comment on this video I will put it in here. It good give it a watch I disagree with you and here is why. PARALLELS: First of all the parallel to make with the Orville are there but I don't really see the issue they're taking ideas from a similar show that is Great. MARINER: Ensign mariner is a normal trope of somebody who is being kept down by their personality. It's showing that she has wasted potential. I don't see the issue with that. She is not like Michael because she has a likeable personality and flaws. Michael has no flaws and works on logic (which is always a positive trait in Star Trek Discovery even though the downfall was because of logic so strange) which is her downfall making her non relatable. TANDY: Ensign Tandy seems to be a person who is excited about getting into Starfleet and it's learning that is not all it crack up to be. she's person has been training her whole life to enter Starfleet so of course she'd be enthusiastic about it. and she's either going to go deeper into that hole which would be funny but if you go the other way round and starts to realise that it's not all that good then we could have some interesting character development and story arcs. RUTHERFORD: He did not get a lot of screen time so we don't know much about him but he seems to have a good work ethic and is a bit too involved with this work. BULMER: He is someone the general audience is meant to represent. He is somebody that is confident kind and hard-working but a little incompetent a normal trope and a fun one. I don't see any sjw undertones to him but time will tell "RECKLESS MALE": I think this is coming out of your ass. There ment to represent the bad parts of the upper command that often glossed over in Star Trek next generation because these are the people we care about. So there jointly interactions with the rest of the crew we don't normally care about making a hierarchical structure. DR TIANA: DR Tiana didn't get my much screen time but what we can tell from the little we saw of her is that she has published many papers in the past and from the interaction she had with the captain. And due to her taking credit for the virus which our lowery ranking officers solved. We can extrapolate that she did this in the past take credit for stuff she didn't do or played little part in. FREEMAN: What tell the little of the first is that she is a horrible mother and she demands obedience from her crew making her a not so good captain so due to that have conflict with the rest of the lowly ranking crew. "BUREAUCRATIC STARFLEET": The whole point of that scene was not to show her in the right it's because we have a few of of her from the opening scenes that she is irresponsible. But the show was the paint Her as responsible but a little off the edge. And bureaucracy is what often people bottom have to experience And touches on that the federation might be overstretched which deep space nine referenced. There's nothing wrong with this scene is just trying to do a bit of worldbuilding. Not to paint anybody in the right or wrong or to make bulmer look like an imbecile for what he was doing. Hes doing what we in that situation if we were so induction does he is. It's funny incompetent. "NOTHING HAPPENS": it's the pilot episode they need to do some worldbuilding the pilot is often the weakest episode of a series look at the first season of Star Trek next generation it's not good. "ITS NOT STAR TREK": well no it isn't it's a Star Trek show it is simply a comedy in space they just added the IP because it is valuable and they have it and they might as well. that is a built-in fan base which will watch the show so that's why I ended it it's not really a Star Trek show it's a comedy with Star Trek on the side. "BAD RICK ABD MORTY EPISODE": One of the writer's is from Rick and Morty so it makes sense that they were writing the things they know it's not bad it's a pilot it's meant to do some worldbuilding it does well I have high hopes for the show and it's even if it does you some ideas from other shows and other writings from other shows it's all abouthow good the show is if it's plagiarizing then that's awful but it's just using some ideas not plagiarism. "ANIMATION STYLE": I don't see any issue with the styleI don't know where you're coming from so I'll just leave this tiny note here. RIPPING ON ALEX KURTZMAN: I don't like him personally but saying that he's not hiring people because he thinks he can do it better and blah blah blah his way he's incompetent is not true. Maybe there are things that we don't see behind the scenes why these people are getting hired. I would like to see them hired but I can't influence that... FOR NOW ITS NOT STAR TREK: As you said earlier and your video you could take all the Star Trek things out and it will just be a normal TV show or a bad episode of Rick and Morty. The Star Trek is appended because if it's IP value. Nothing more. I think we should uphold it to Lesser standards. It's more of its family guy in Star Trek next generation. Can we just enjoy it as a funny space adventure and not to a normal Star Trek show. they failed with discovery so they're trying something new there's no read need to hate it so early there's no need for all these assumptions TIME WILL TELL: If you're right I will a edit at the end when the Star Trek series is over if it is a gender politics mayhem but if not you're gonna have to make a video no matter if you read my comment or not about how it is good. THANK YOU FOR READING 💓

I know right. This constant hate from fans is exhausting. Why can’t we just enjoy the show for gods sake!

I shall not pass!!

itsmonicalynn yes

While that is a common misconception, the Orville is actually a reference to Orville Redenbacher, the king of Popcorn.

@Social Hand Grenade Because we seek love and belonging with one another. What you call "validating opinions" is simply what it means to be a community. Stop being so cynical. We are not animals. Lets love and care for one another.

@Social Hand Grenade We can both agree that "Top Critic" is a title given to a person with experience (hopefully extensive) in the field of their critique. And of course we don't have to put value on a critic's opinion. But there is nothing wrong with trying to understand or even agreeing with someone else's opinion. It has nothing to do with "needing permission." We are indeed biological organisms. But to call us animals is extremely cynical. I know that it is popular to do so in modern society. But it is a delusion to think that mankind is just a "very smart ape". That you and I, two human beings, can right now have this conversation is proof of that. You are more than an animal. You are a smart capable person...with the capacity to love and care for your fellow man even when it doesn't benefit yourself. Stay strong. Life is not easy...but there is true meaning if you look for it.

@Social Hand Grenade To be a scientist is to be an observer of this world. May you never stop searching. All the best.

And yet the trailer somehow made the show look better than it actually is.

Disliking the show is an exercise in nitpicking and negative bias. People should be ashamed of how much energy they are putting towards ruing the shows reputation.

I just like good productions and Lower Decks is terrible. It's so poorly written and the majority of the actors are so bland it's made it only possible for me to get halfway through the 2nd episode before giving up and I'm quite stubborn. The guy has some valid points that Star Trek is so bad atm I struggled to watch any of them, they are just terrible. At least Gene isn't around to see the mess.

@@nothingsurprisesmeanymore I think you really should give it another chance. I just finished the season and while I really hated the first three episodes, imo it got way better after that. Despite it basically being a parody, to me it felt way more like Star Trek than Discovery or Picard did. I can't say how much they ripped off the Orville though, cause I still have to watch that.

I actually want to check out Star Trek because I really loved Lower Decks.

For sure not millions maybe a couppe of thousands.

They were banking on the ''zoomer'' generation to fill their bags with cash. It's really pathetic.

Nope. Didn't hear that!! Just don't care. (Boring)

I fucking love the Orville