Does anyone else think it looks like a waffle iron or is it just me?

Can you do videos on the ships from Legend of the Galactic Heroes? It can either be the old series or new one called Die Neue These.

any chance do you have any info on USS ELKINS NCC-74121. All i can find is its the saucer from the intrepid class and 2 hulls and warp nacelles from the constitution class

I have a question How can I build a perfect warship Like 300 warship against 100 to 5 thousand enemy fleet

The nebula doesn't use the actual galaxy-class saucer, it uses a substantially down-scaled version. Just compare the ships' widths, widest point by far for both ships is the saucer, but the nebula is 318m wide to the Galaxy's 464m.

As far as exploration I like the Prometheus, intrepid and voyager classes. However my favorites are the dedicated combat classes.

i feel exactly the same way

Same here it is an atanable gole

I absolutely concur wholeheartedly! 😊

yea same and i like the idea of the swappable dorsal pod so it can be outfitted for specialised missions

The British build a battleship in WW 2 using 15 inch guns they’d just had lying around since the 20s. But my favourite example of kitbashing was when HMS Zulu and HMS Nubian were both damaged, so they took the front end of Zulu, and welded it to the back end of Nubian. This HMS Zubian was born

It was originally conceived as a much smaller contemporary design to the Galaxy, but in something of a frigate scale. As it turns out, Ben Maxwell, Captain of the Phoenix, commanded the USS Rutledge. The Rutledge was a New Orleans frigate which was built from a smaller scale Enterprise-D model.

@@johnlavery3433 the earliest aircraft carriers were Battlecruisers with flight decks slapped on in place of some of the guns. Some of the later carriers after that were half-built Battlecruisers with the whole superstructure replaced with a flight deck and hangars. So basically kit bashes.

@@Raguleader Those carriers also tended to be fairly inefficient compared to purpose built ships of similar tonnage, but at least the hulls were not wasted.

No it isn't. It's just being lazy.

Unfortunately, the Captain could just relieve that officer for being a smartass, haha!

Lol I love this comment

@@skyborne80If the smartass is the chief medical officer he might not be able to relieve him/her :D

Next to the Galaxy, which has no Constitution.

If a navigator says that, that means he's trolling the captain.

People also tend to forget that even Constitution-Class ships were more than capable of glassing planets on their own when they fell into the wrong hands.

People underestimate how dangerous a society of nerds can be They can build death machines to kill you in ways you didn't think was possible. The only reason they haven't stomped all over the galaxy is because they prefer to be chill. Don't piss off the Federation.

To be fair, Cardassian technology was more than a little behind the Federation, and one shouldn't neglect the fact that the Phoenix was also captained by a combat hardened and experienced veteran of the previous Cardassian War. If I were Cardassian, I wouldn't like those odds.

The one that that always confused me when I watched that episode as a child was they never showed any crew from the Phoenix other than Captain Maxwell so little dumb me though Maxwell was defeating all those Cardassians by himself with a fully automated ship. I was like whoa, the Nebula class is badass!

But they don't design or operate them as warships; no anti-flash gear for the crew despite consoles turning into fireworks at regular intervals (or any other kind of protective clothing either), crew standing at tactical stations not sitting in seats wearing 5-point harnesses (inertial dampeners also seem to have a short MTBF), the bridge in a 'shoot here to disable the ship' position, no CIC or ops room, families on board, a bridge whose layout is there for cinematics rather than efficient operation of the crew...

I see it as the robust workhorse complement to the Galaxy Andalusian.

the Miranda was actually bigger than a Constitution in volume.. so one wonders about this one

@@sparrowlt It has been mentioned for years. Someone calculated the volumes at 234,928 cubic meter Constitution versus 217,770 for the Miranda class. What is rarely mentioned is NX is almost having volume equal to the original Constitution and having much smaller engines, giving it a greater usable volume for a much smaller crew.

I always felt it was precisely the Galaxy's Miranda class cousin. @@Euripides_PanzThe NX has more volume than the Constitution? Fascinating. I think I understand it as the NX has eight decks but a wider saucer section, but does that account for the volume of the Stardrive section as well?

@@3Rayfire Not more, just more usable volume. Constitution has greater total volume, but a larger fraction of it is dedicated to the more powerful warp engines. NX has a more bulbous dorsal structure given the hull a greater volume, in spite of the forward notch. It also adds a similar structure around the bridge that Akira has. One thing the Constitution doesn't have is the twin catamarans that run half the NX length. Because early Starfleet ships had problems balancing high-warp field, NX also had a structure referred to as the Symmetrical Warp Governor. On the actual Akira, this volume was raised to give it a clear line of sight, as it's sole purpose was a platform for multiple torpedo launchers.

Better to be in an unassuming war canoe than to be some boob on an inner tube

given the toothless nature of the Oberth, the poor thing is probably being escorted by the Nebula

@@typhoonoftempest It's ironic. E-D was destroyed by Klingons. Not long after, the Farragut was ambushed and destroyed by Klingons. The Oberth, whose name I don't believe was visible, was probably still around after the Dominion War. Having at least a forward phaser bank, Oberths were not used in large-scale engagements. No word on the Bozeman after it engaged the Borg cube along with Defiant.

Nice, the Oberth class can be hidden within a standard torpedo tube

@@StYxXx Why launch a probe when you can launch a sensor platform with nacelles?

Perhaps the Avenger-class from STO?

Well, if the DS9 TM is to believed... heh... it was likely outfitted with at least 1/3 increase in offensive capabilities and uprated engines. Who can speculate what they did with the structural integrity, sensors, power generation, and hull shielding. They were beginning to study captured Dominion technology, which was more advanced. If you take impressions from "Message in a Bottle" a Nebula was sent to catch the USS Prometheus, designed to travel faster than any Starfleet contemporary. Not only did it catch up, it obviously threatened Prometheus, causing light damage before it was disabled in a MVAM attack pattern. In a less sophisticated attack pattern, the Prometheus just as quickly obliterated a far larger Warbird despite having been damaged heavily by both Romulan and Starfleet weaponry. Also, the more agile Akira withstood a brief engagement with three Warbirds on spite of its larger size and reduced agility compared with the two Defiants. Based on those impressions, the Nebula and Akira are very capable when appropriately crewed.

A full warship nebula is too small to be a true battleship and too big and too crew heavy (by federation standards) to be utilitarian in a pure warship role. Her true value is in the fact that she is a lighter cheaper galaxy and can preform multiple roles well.

@@calderhall1794 im not sure i agree. With post-Dominion War tech a Nebula should have a smaller crew (albeit not in a substantial capacity) but also her size should allow for more advanced modularity and retrofitting. The sheer size of the Nebula could provide ALOT of room for advanced tech regardless of role. Slap on the right dorsal pod and she could be a heavy scout, long range tactical coordinator, seige vessel, medical ship, or whatever the federation requires. Being as big as it is it could supplant or compliment the aging Miranda's.

What actually is the weakness of the Nebula compared to the Galaxy? Internal volume actually looks fairly similar even though the Nebula is a lot smaller. Even dismissing the modular part, the rest of the space should be similarly reconfigurable like a Galaxy. The main thing I see design-wise is no line of sight between the nacelles, so presumably it should be slower, but actually very peak speeds both look like warp 9.6.

Do you remember the bridge of USS Sutherland? (from that episode when Data was an acting captain of that ship) What a hell of a workspace, Galaxy all the way.

For me its the more compact, more versitale, more reasonable design and more reliable ship! At least the Nebula is warpcore dont get malfunction and blown up if some looking at bad or something.

@@FolgoreCZ Reminded me of a submarine type bridge.

Galaxy. As a Nebula CO, you're probably prone to being stuck on the front lines for months in War and running every damned dirty job a smaller, less capable mule ship can't handle. You'd be be fortunate for either position, as both carry prestige, but you could wind up in an undistinguished career if your Nebula is always sent off on some dull charting expedition.

@Nathan Zhang Who answers to who?

I tend to agree. There's just not a lot of majesty and stateliness that I find in the Sovereign, Defiant, and Prometheus for example.

It was a product of a more peaceful time, but also one of complacency. The Federation was powerful, but there's always something out there that threatens what they've built. Stately explorers like the Nebula and Galaxy-class had to make way for tougher ships eventually.

Oh c’mon the Cerritos is supposed to be a Oberth Replacement Vessel or ORV it looks quaint with it’s double hulled design.

Lower Decks is supposed to be a goofy show, so they gave it the (IMHO) the goofiest-looking Starfleet ship.

I think they were being a bit lazy with the naming "what's smaller than a Galaxy? Solar system, no that's a silly name. Constellation, no sounds too much like Constitution, but put that name in the back pocket. Nebula, bingo".

literally naming a ship class after a ball of hot gas

@@obiitom The Constellation Class had already appeared with the USS Stargazer.

The Miranda class utilizes the same concept with the roll bar which can be equipped with a torpedo launcher or other mission specific units though not seen as much as the Nebula class

Yeah it's a "Minor refit"

@@KJsProjects I feel as though I've heard someone use that term... a lot... about other such ships. Not being sarcastic, I just can't put my finger on it.

@@Deridus Star Trek Online uses compartment modularity as the reason parts are interchangeable between similar ship types. Also the Danube class had swappable mission pods (it's the middle section between the nacelles). Large portions of the Galaxy class are modular, they're just interior, logically because it's so huge. Also all Starfleet bridge modules can be swapped out.

I would´ve also liked to see Jellicoe again..i mean,the man was basically right with everything he stated,and is probably hated so much because Mirana Sirtis could not show of her very attractive Body after he had command...Take the titties and bum away and u get a really mad fanbase...

Support this man. Likes for the algorthiim god.

@@maryjames8433 replies for the comment throne

It's so crisp and so well lit. Generations in general is a great looking movie. If only the script would'nt be so shitty.

That was the physical model. If I'm remembering, First Contact was the last time it was used, then in VOY, it was remade in CGI, but without the Slackjaw Nebula secondary hull.

In terms of engines and mass, the two are roughly equal. It's likely Nebula is slightly smaller, perhaps giving it an edge in acceleration. We haven't actually seen a Nebula out-turn anything as large as the aging Ambassadors. It's the Akira that combines heavy weapons, good defense, and sharper maneuvers. It probably comes at a cost of range and endurance, likely a great deal of multi-role capacity.

Actually, funny thing is that its pretty much the same between the Galor and Keldon class ships. The Galor is something the Cardassians had for ages, and by itself it was a bit underwhelming, thus being typically used in squadrons or fleets. The Keldon on the other hand was a Galor plus, essentially sharing most of the spaceframe, except for the addition of a dorsal superstructure, with the ship being supposedly significantly stronger than the Galor class, but, apparently also much more expensive, leading to only a limited number being produced, being usually used as either flagships or handed over to the Obsidian Order. Curiously, during the Dominion war the Keldon class practically vanishes, with most examples (probably all that were with the Obsidian Order) having been massacred in the Omarion Nebula, along with the Tal'Shiar Warbirds. With their Dominion overlords in place, its very likely to assume that they would have wanted to have them produce Dominion ships, and they generally did, at least in the ship yards they brought themselves, but Cardassian Galor and Hideki class ships remained in production. Reasons for that can vary, though its probably either that Dominion ship building techniques were incompatible, or that switching production to Dominion ships would have meant a drop in production output due to extensive retooling. However, given the drastically improved performance of the Galor class, its likely that the Dominion at least provided upgrades to the design nonetheless. Now, why wasnt the Keldon being produced during the Dominion war? I assume heavily that its because its a counterpart to the Galaxy class. Technically performs well, has impressive specs, but, like a Tiger tank, is overcomplicated, difficult to produce, and by the end of the day the expense didnt warrant the increase in performance, especially with a focus on fleet operations, where you can just spit out that many more Galor classes and have more boom for your buck. If the Cardassians had been left to their own devices, they might just continue spitting a few out, perhaps as a prestige project, or as a ship for exploration or to command fleets, before production would peter out. But they joined the Dominion, got dragged into the war, and the Dominion wouldnt accept anything less but the absolute maximum boom for the absolute minimum amount of buck, as is their own practice with Jem'Hadar attack ships. And this turned into way more of a rant than I intended.

And the Centaur was the same to the Excelsior (though it was rarely seen) Should’ve been a similar take on the Sovereign but the from what little I’ve seen of Picard the studio has abandoned the TNG aesthetic completely

@@TheDjbz There was a companion to the Ambassador class as well with the same kind of design. That was to be the USS Pegasus, but at the last minitue it was changed to a Oberth class.

@@TheDjbz Funny you mention the Sovereign and how there are "Miranda" versions of other ships like the Centaur to the Excelsior. Junkball's video on the Nebula has a small segment where he speculates what a "Miranda" version of the Sovereign would look like and he quickly puts together a rough version of one.

Star Trek Online is a lot like it tbh. I might even say "as good" - the difference is if you want to command a fleet you got to actually command other players. Otherwise you're just flying your own ship and whatever shuttles/fighters/frigates/light escorts you can launch from your ship's hangar facilities. I like how they keep the game up to date too.

@@hoodaticus From what I saw, the Online Nebula is slow, slower to turn, and not especially well-armed, nor able to tank much damage. It struggles to take down frigates older than itself.

Dirty bunch o' spoon heads. Lol!

Or a mini-series aboard his New Orleans-class Rutledge frigate. There are plenty of stories to be told before Maxwell and O'Brien were changed before a certain massacre. A Federation frigate taking on one or more Galor? That would be an interesting match. We could even see some of the smaller Cardassian warships strategically engaging the more capable Starfleet ships of the day, maybe even a Galor-Excelsior match. I'm counting on Excelsior.

A bit large to simply be a Miranda "replacement". Rather is serves a similar role but i don't see Starfleet matching the hundreds of Miranda and variants with Nebula frames. Frankly i would have preffered to see a new "Miranda" with the later design trend (maybe based on the Akira frame).

@@gusty9053 The Centaur class looks like an attempt at an Excelscior/Movie Era Miranda.

@@OmegablueWolf Yeah i remember it from DS9 but it never looked quite right :). Plus the Miranda has that robust feel due to the superstructure that none of the "replacements" got quite right. That is why i think the Akira components compacted into a Miranda design with some extra decks under the pod would work great as a new "Miranda".

I liked the Phoenix. It seemed like another week or so could have added the right amount of stern details and maybe clean up the firing arcs. Since the model was changed to alter the upper pod and its support pylon, we never saw Phoenix again. On screen, we never got a look at an intact Melbourne. That's why it took 30 years to get a model of it. Farragut had perhaps the best look of them and yet I don't think we have a good model to this day.

@@OmegablueWolf I don't know if it has ever had a true purpose other than a small ship to nearly destroy the captured Jem'hadar attack ship. Maybe it was an old light cruiser design that was redesigned and refit into a contemporary perimeter action ship. Powerful enough to intercept raiders and fighters during long patrols, but not so cheap and expendable that it would be expected to challenge a Galor on its own.

Yeah.. the blast shield, the blast shield.. it comes down and it goes up, blast shield! It's the Star Trek we deserve, what an amazing show.

Lower Decks is a Show about underdogs. The Nebula Class is after the Dominion war almost as capable as a Galaxy Class if not even more capable than the Galaxy

It´s being towed by cloaked oberths...those also act as bullet sponges^^

well the lower half was anyway, but i think that was a special variant rather than a class wide feature (don't remember for certain though)

I think that was a note in the TNG Technical Manual but I might be wrong. I vaguely remember an illustration where the Nebula's mission pod mount was noted as being able to dock with a Galaxy/Nebula saucer and allow recovery in a double-decker arrangement, but that might have just been me goofing around with toys.

Originally the ship was designed by the show to do that but they ended up changing it to be its own ship.

Well, it didn't seem like a big motivator to build a new class starship to salvage another specific type, when before the Borg, a total of 12 Galaxy builds were either completed or planned. The possibilities for the Nebula we got to know are vast.

Well..one could make arguments that the Nova class and prometheus class show the same design philosophy

In the Star Trek Dominion War game, they freed Thomas Riker to command the new Achilles class. It still weirds me out to see this actor playing a friendly and admirable leader rather than a total ass.

Darwin Xavier that game was the tits