Still better than enterprise

@@janwitts2688 I’ve never really watched Enterprise.

Voyager was mostly a show about missed writing opportunities and squandered plots and themes.

Gene wanted to but a-lot of the cast was ready to move on he wanted one more episode to rap things up seeing janeway getting promoted to admiral and chakotay becoming captain and paris becoming his first officer and tuvok becoming the leader of the vulcan council

@@mikehance6086 Gene Roddenberry died in 1991?

I would love to know what the hell went on in the writing room for Star Trek: Picard. Was the only requirement for the job application "talentless, insufferable edgelord"?

Apparently the actor tweeted something a writer for the show didn't like, so they killed his character off in the most gruesome way imaginable. A decision as petulant and childish as it is shortsighted and weird. All things that can describe modern trek as a whole really... >__> I am quite happy I don't and have never watched it.

Oooo I like the idea of Q Junior bringing him back.

Just ignore CBS Trek like most people do. That, and Disney Star Wars.

@@planescaped it had to do with the accusations about Kevin Spacey. Manu Intiraymi apparently made comments about Anthony Rapp (I think it was on Twitter) and how he should’ve just kept quiet about Kevin Spacey’s attempted sexual assault on him. So after Manu posted that the producers decided to not ask Manu Intiramyi back to reprise his role of Icheb and cast another actor. Icheb was even removed from Star Trek Online and replaced with a Vulcan.

poor Harry xD

Once an ensign, forever an ensign

Failure to earn promotion will do that! (That or discharge! )

The actor who played Harry said on his podcast "the Delta Flyers" that after he left star fleet Harry opened a restaurant in San Francisco called Admiral Kim's. So he was technically promoted, but just as a title as a restaurant owner.

@@beckydonoghue3452 lmao he had to compensate for his rank

That is how the recent Janeway Autobiography book actually had it, @joe grimes . Although Prodigy is clearly not going that route, we now know.

Chakotay was a member of a terrorist organization, him and every Mocky member may get a free pass by not going to jail but would realistically be at least on probation.

Same thinking. And after he re-connected with his people I assumed he'd take a teaching post at the academy, leaving room for possible romance with his former captain. I guess that only happened in the fanfics! LOL!

What about the Delany sisters what happened to the Delany sisters

I imagine him retiring , allowing him and Janeway to pursue the romance it’s so obvious they both want.

I didn't know it would make me that happy hearing that Harry got promoted but it did!

Isn't Harry from another dimension so they can't hold him responsible can they?

@@moffant4916 they can as he was listed as the harry kim on the crew after he crossed over so as such he is harry kim as far as starfleet cares

Who'd have expected he filled out his Starfleet entrance forms incorrectly? This is that happens when SSNs are expanded to 50 digits!

He should be Lt. Cmndr

Yeah, and bring in Naomi Wildman as his "supervisor"

I'm waiting to hear he fell in love with an asteroid. Antimatter of course

Well, he's from an alternate universe, so pretty much any weird idea Starfleet comes up with is believable.

Like Smithers to Janeways Burns

That'd work. Technically he's an Ensign... but he's also the right hand of the greatest Admiral in the entire fleet.

I'm with you on this one! It was a stupid decision from the writers and I've heard other ST KZfaq accounts claim that it was also a result of a bet between Brannon Braga and Beltran that he wouldn't let anyone kiss his girlfriend, who was Jeri Ryan at the time. So Braga put their characters together to win the bet. 🙄 Don't know if that's true, but it definitely makes that decision even dumber if it is.

What were their other choices on the Ship?...Love the one your with and it might even stick

@@jprice6419 Chakotay literally could have picked AAAAAAANY other available woman on that ship to date. Given that fact that she was assimilated around age 5, and spent so long in the collective, her human socio-emotional growth was severely stunted. Just look at the way she lightweight threw tantrums and pushed people out of her way like a bad-mannered child would in her early episodes as evidence. Even though biologically she was an adult and intellectually was a genius, developmentally she was a teenager at best by the end of Voyager's journey. So also, there's the super gross angle that Chakotay who was middle-aged by the end of Voyager was dating a very inexperienced woman with the maturity level of a teenager. He should have known better. But alas, I blame the writers' lack of sense for this idiocy. Chakotay’s not a mid-life crisis, he was just written that way.

@@railroad5024 yep that's a good point. It's basically statutory r*pe. The reason that doing that to kids is highly illegal isn't because of their height/size or anything like that. It's because they are mentally underdeveloped, and so they don't understand the consequences, and can be easily manipulated by adults into doing things they don't really know what to do, and so they can't legally consent, even if they think they actually want it to happen, they don't know, because they're confused and easily tricked. That's why it can still be statutory r*pe even if the person is an adult physically, if they're severely mentally disabled and so have the mind of a child. 7 of 9 never really left childhood. She barely knows how to have a conversation with an adult, let alone have sex with them. And it just gets even more creepy when you see things like her and Naomi Wildman being best friends. That was put in the show to show everyone how old 7 of 9 was, development wise. We were meant to see her as really basically the same as Naomi. Both are incredibly smart. But they're still young children.

@@duffman18 yeeeeaahhh I wouldn't go as far as to label it statutory r-pe. In my mind, Seven had the maturity of a teen like 17-19 years old by the end of the show. So not quite as socio-emotionally underdeveloped to not know what she was doing and be unable to consent, but enough to make it highly inappropriate for Chakotay to entertain her romantic advances anywhere past her "social experiment". I like to think of Chakotay as a character with lots of integrity, so I would hope he wouldn't manipulate her into doing things she wasn't ready for. But at his age, he'd probably be wanting more from relationships than people who are just beginning to experience dating aren't ready for yet. At least that how he tends to get written in post-Endgame "fixer-upper" fan fiction lol. I think there was plenty of other young ensigns/lieutenants/crew on that ship writers could have had him pursue since Janeway kept herself off limits. Jor, Marla (from equinox crew, and bonus points she blonde lol), Henley, or Nicolletti for example. All probably quite younger than him, but likely experienced enough that they wouldn't be so vastly unmatched maturity wise. Plus in my head I'm holding onto the books that say they broke up like a couple weeks after Voyager returned and refuse to think that Chakotay and Seven were together long enough for her to get to the point of requesting to "experiment" in that activity 🤮. Anybody who says otherwise is **puts hands over ears** 🎶 LA LA-LA LA-LAAAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUU!🎶 lol 😆

The Doctor's mobile emitter was successfully replicated by Starfleet engineering. But was that not future tech?

@@spacelogic101whatif Yes however Starfleet engineering was able to replicate it. The mobile emitter was future tech but since the Doctor use it without any consequences Starfleet medical felt it can be used on all ships EMH's elimating the need for holoemitters being installed throughout a entire starship

@@leejohnstone894 So why not use the anti borg weapons then?

@@spacelogic101whatif they do! You have the TR-116 rifle which fires titanium projectiles and can split a drone's head open like a melon. Then you have the multi phaser rifle. Me I'll rather use the TR-116 rifle only on semi automatic...watch the drone's run away in fear. When facing the Borg Queen I'll pull out a 44 magnum and blow her head clean off and say "adapt to that bitch"

@@spacelogic101whatif Riker: what do you need? Me: guns!...lots and lots of guns. Seven of Nine: nobody has done anything like this before. Me: that's why it's going to work

For Harry, unless Tom or one of the other senior staff had been killed off, there was no room for advancement. Tom had re-gained Janeway's trust and proved he wouldn't fuck up again. As for the Equinox crew, I've wondered that myself. I actually hated the way they ended the show. It was like, ok, what now guys??? Many times I've thought of different scenarios of what they did and how fast they must have been promoted. Harry being the first! It was awesome seeing Seven again on Picard though. I hope they have some stories from her and the crew. Also hated the way Icheb went out. Didn't deserve that. :(

Janeway was worried about back pay if they promoted harry as for tom he technically wasn't a crew member so back pay wouldn't of been an issue when they made it back it's all about the gold press latinum

IIRC, the producers refused to promote the character because they didn't like the actor.

@@Driver0378 I hope they fix that with the time travel this season, It will still be part of Sevens character as a mother figure, but we get Manu back ❤

@@leomarshall4059 now that is petty

There was an “Elite Force 2”?? On what format? PC, PS2? “Elite Force” was one of my favorite games!!! How did I miss the sequel??? 🤦🏼‍♂️

@@paddy7812 My brother had it for PC and played about half of it.

"I thought I'd killed you with a horse saddle?" "No, that was my previous model, 1-Vok. I am 2-Vok, and 3-Vok is on the way too"

I'm 100% convinced this was Tuvok being undercover as a human.

@@impishrebel5969 🤣 Tuvok is one of my favorite characters! Rather logically sarcastic!! When 7 caught Be’lannas wedding bouquet and asked “what is the significance of this”? His deadpan “You may not wish to know” was awesome!!

I like that her first real relationship (after unimatrix zero-one dude) was with Chakotay. The "first" you usually don't forget that easily. It was a way to further her humanity and to open up romantically with someone. I guess I'm in the minority with those two.

@@Nitique05 Very human to make horrible mistakes in dating after all :)

She got more chemistry with Harry and Axum than in any scene with Chakotay.

And we really care about a poll about WORST TV relationships. 🙄

The reason for the change of Seven appearing on ST: Nemesis had to do with Jeri Ryan's schedule. She was on another show on ABC at the time, and she was not able to schedule around it. So they changed it to Admiral Janeway making an appearance.

@@PatriciaLLogan I actually like the story better with Janeway. She really played the cool badass aunt who's seen everything, is not taking your BS and doesn't give a F if you tell your parents she slapped you across the face for talking back to her. Then the very next week smokes a joint with you LOL.

Damn!

I always thought he was that guy anyway. I mean he was obiously the same actor, came out of prison he was in because of an accident and all that and who really remembers the name given to a character staring in one episode.

that crazy that had to pay to use something that was theirs anyway. Its not like fan fiction character but it shame though.

@@spark300c That was just pure greed. They'd have to pay him Royalties. Literal pennies on the dollar that they made from each Voyager show since the character is only a small part of it. I get the same thing from part of a song I helped write 5 years ago that got sampled into another song that became a small-hit. I get like 0.5% of its earnings every 6 months.

It would have been funny if, in "Non Sequitur", where Tom was drinking himself to death in Sandrine's... if fellow loser Nick Lacarno had been drinking alongside him.

Morn lived forever and ever and nobody can ever tell me different.

@@nuru666 and JEEZ did he tell everyone about it!!!!! Gab Gab Gab the guy NEVER shut up!!!!!

@@andreworiez8920 lol you couldn't stop the guy once he started

Ayala was Voyager's Morn... always there, never seen talking.

@Marcus Jones actually it’s cannon lol he’s the former captain f the protostar somehow the greatest ship ever built no one has heard of

I'd watch anything that comes out as Star Trek...

@Marcus Jones Not as farfetched as you may think, The charactor of Kira Neryes was a terrorist (as in she committed acts of terror rather than just being lablet a terrorist), and commanded the USS Defiant and DS9, she was comissioned by Starfleet as a Commander towards the end of DS9. In real life Most of the USAs founding fathers could be considered terrorists, Nelson Mandella who served as president of South Africa had before that spent decades in prison as a terrorist bomb maker. Captain Sir Thomas Cochran, member of Parlement was kicked out of the Royal Navy and stripped of his knighthood after being convicted of stock exchange fraud, although he was allowed to continue as an MP (the conviction was later overturned), left the UK for Chile, where he helpedform that nations navy and liberate Chile and several other South American countries (the Spanish certainly would have considerred him a terrorist or the 19th centuary equivelent thereof) then he was welcomed back into the Royal Navy as an Admiral (being promoted upon his return)

@Marcus Jones In lore, the maquis were citizens that lived on worlds that the Federation ceded to the Cardassians to keep them from starting a war with the Federation. The maquis, as a result, defended themselves from Cardassia. Chakotay, a Starfleet officer, resigned his commission after Cardassia killed his entire family on one of these worlds and Starfleet refused to do anything because they didn't want to start a war. When Chakotay resigned, he joined the Maquis to defend his home. There was a lot of support for the maquis among some starfleet officers, and they assisted them with weapons secretly. Regardless, 3-4 years later, the Federation was at full-scale war with Cardassia. I don't think, in this context, it would be that difficult, given Chakotay's leadership aboard Voyager, to forgive him for defending his home against an enemy that ultimately declared war on the federation anyways.

@Marcus Jones It's called "amnesty".

I guess they let him keep it as removing it might violate his rights (or force Starfleet to confront what his rights are)

Legal loophole: The emitter was made in 29th century, but voyager got it in 1996 when they were taken to the past by captain Braxton. Since it's technically a historical artifact obtained from a dead CEO in the past, it's not legally from "the future" according to federation temporal law. Of course i'm bullshitting, but a lot of federation law is weird.

@@nurdyoga8228 Technically it was stolen futuristic tech as was the rest of the items Henry Starling stole from Captain Braxton up to and including the timeship Aeon

@@nurdyoga8228 Since the temporal police didn't confiscate the technology themselves, it's likely that the 29th century temporal prime directive gave a pass to it being kept and the modifications to the timeline that that would cause. I'm convinced that the current(ish) century Starfleet is in contact with the 29th century starfleet in matters of maintenance of the timeline and otherwise, and are getting orders from them in a shadowy-figure-in-the-column kind of way about what temporal slip-ups should be given a pass and which ones should be interdicted upon. See also Starfleet's willingness to not only give a pass but also a personal pat on the back to Kirk for going back in time to grab a couple whales(and giving the past the technology for sapphire glass in the process. Oh, you thought Aluminum Glass was just technobabble? Nah, it's what your phone screen might be made from, depending)

@@TacComControl Are they getting genetic modifications as a reward for doing what future Starfleet says as well?

he's still cleaning stuff

He retired with his brother Mott, they work as consultants on Romulan (Mott) and Delta Quadrant (Chel) affairs for private hire.

You shouldn't get all blue about it

It seemed like a pretty senseless move by the writers.

I'm doing a recap this Sunday about the my current Prodigy theories and, yeah, this is top of my list. It would also explain the sheer amount of alpha quadrant proliferation.

There's always Memory Beta to read up on what happens to the characters in the books.

Too dark for me, and Picard is really dead?

It doesn't? Sure it does. That was what Hugh and Lore and his bros were, weren't they? Self-liberated borg. Hugh got liberated originally by the enterprise crew, but he spread it to the rest of his borg mates himself, and so they left the collective, somehow, before running into Lore and deciding to follow him, because they were in desperate need of a leader and a direction to go down in life, and Lore was a narcissist little prick and so he'd never turn down the chance to rule over people, especially with the borg being his private army meaning he was one of the most powerful leaders in the galaxy because nothing has the strength and durability of a borg, not even Klingons or Jem Hadar. Well except for Lore and Data and B4 of course, but that wouldn't make an army, even if all 3 of then worked together My theory in how they actually managed to leave the Borg without being destroyed by them has always been that the borg _LET_ them go. Like cutting out a tumour to save a patient. If someone has breast cancer, you end up having to remove the whole breast, to be safe, so it doesn't spread any further. The borg could see that what was essentially a computer virus was spreading through their ranks, so that more and more borg would become individuals if they didn't stop it. Even though enterprise had decided against using the virus they specifically designed to do this to the borg to destroy them for the sake of Hugh being an individual sentient being, his individuality had somehow remained anyway and achieved the same thing, helping tons of borg liberate themselves. And since this individuality virus could spread through air/space via the borg Wi-Fi connection, they didn't even want to get within lightyears of Hugh's ship because the individuality virus would spread to any borg ship that got near them, and then the borg would have to send another ship to destroy that one and so on. Letting a few hundred borg go so that the disease wouldn't spread anymore, would be the most logical option. I haven't seen all of Picard yet so I don't know if they ever talk about this (cos I know Hugh is actually in it and is mates with Picard still). That'd be cool if they did. Cos a new war against the borg a century after the dominion war would be a cool idea for a show. The borg more powerful than ever, adapted to resist the ways in which people like Picard and janeway came up with to destroy the borg (like they're weak to physical bullets in First Contact, so start making huge physical torpedoes again or something for attacking borg cubes, instead of phasers and photon torpedoes which can easily be blocked by shields because they're not really physical). It could be a pure war show, like Band of Brothers but in space. Could be a miniseries too. And you could make it M-Rated like band of brothers was, to show the reality of what war is like

There was an episode I remember from when I was still a kid, where 7/9 was connecting with free Borg in her dreams and the queen had to go there. I was sent to bed before I found out how it ended.

@@chibigirl8545 they weren’t free. They went to Unimatrix Zero when they regenerated and forgot about it after waking up. Eventually, Janeway helps to free those drones who were in Unimatrix Zero. Some of them manage to take over a ship or two

@@duffman18 They were still more renegades than an established free faction of their own, that can last awhile. I see the Cooperative as a sort of extension of the consequences of both Hugh and those _Voyager_ freed from Unimatrix Zero.

Trek series never have a good ending, they just end.

At least we're getting follow-ups on the Voyager crew with the new ST series, such as Picard and Intrepid. It's good to see one Intrepid episode doing the long-awaited follow-up on the Equinox crew.

A movie to cap off Voyager would have been good. Set 5-10 years after they return, some issue where they needed to return to the Delta quadrant. Janeway calls on the old crew that she trusts. Area they were the only ones familiar with.

@@Skipper-nq4gdwho said this?

A wonderful idea.

lol is that icarley or hannah montana or something

Chakotay and Seven ? Yuck 🤮

@@joycebrown1413 It's a shit load better than the "out of nowhere" lesbian relationship she has now. Like seriously, no one really minds same sex relationships or someone being gay, but at least let there be, signs of it. To just slap us in the face with it and say accept this it you are a homophobe, is some bullshit. I mean the writers just sit around and spit-ball this shit with no consideration for continuity or history. We don't know what to do with this character, soooooo, let's make them gay. And we get backlash, it's just because people are homophobic. Really?? Is that really intelligence on the part of writers??

How many times did Paris pass up Harry for a promotion? I feel like Tom could have been busted down to amoeba and he still would have made lieutenant before Harry.

Yes, even Naomi Wildman becomes admiral rather than he Commander.

That's why we need a new Prodigy season

I remember seeing someone call them ChakoWay.

Janeway and Chakotay ? Yuck 🤮

@FanOf Dueling It wasn't a Klingon mission. It was one of the early Starfleet ones. You were actually fighting Klingons, & disarming the bombs they'd set up. It was actually one of the first career-specific missions, because if you were an Engineer you could chose to use your Engineering prowess to disarm the bomb without having to cut the wires in a specific order.

@FanOf Dueling No. It took place in several environments, ending with you following the Torres/Paris daughter on a planet, running around defusing bombs & such. You didn't actually meet any of the diplomats until the mission was almost over. You're right about it being about a peace summit with Klingons. That was the entire reason why other Klingons wanted to disrupt the talks by killing everyone - Starfleet & Klingon alike - there.

possible, but personally i think its more likely that the federation just has too much on its plate to start hunting down random people outside their territory, who arent even a threat to most people. they have bigger fish to fry. as for supporting them, not only does the federation have even more of a stick up its ass than usual in the picard timeline and likely wouldnt do that, but it looks very critical on lynchjustice in general, as demonstrated by picards reaction to sevens plan. so, not very likely either i think.

@@jenshep1720 Yet the Fed has comm buoys outside Fed space. It obviously thinks it needs them (for when Fed ships are on legit missions outside Fed space) so it has to have a plan to protect them, or is willing to write them off or expend its own resources replace them as needed. Diplomatic agreements will work in some places but not where pirates operate, or where local governments don't have reliable control of their populations e. g. the Nausicaans. It makes some sense to offload the protection/replacement work onto an organization with some semi-official/unofficial sanction like the Rangers but there's the Fed's risk of negative diplomatic consequences if the Rangers get up to hijinks the Fed can't be seen backing. Damned if they do, damned if they don't, but they can't afford not to.

@@markfergerson2145 Those comm buoys are there as an early warning system against for example the borg. and, as you said, to keep in touch with federation vessels outside their territory. theyre not being protected in any special way, i myself had to fly up to some of them and fix them after orion pirates had damaged them in star trek online.

Ah, the perils of rewriting an MMO's plot to stay current with new Trek, when it's very early PREMISE relied on it's own unique timeline as backstory (especially about Data, his commanding the Enterprise-E, 7 of 9 in the anti Borg taskforce, Ambassador Picard and so much more...) It all starts to look a little bit limiting to artistic integrity. We already have a confirmed multiverse, after all.

@@chrissonofpear1384 For me the big pitfall so far with STO trying to incorporate all the new canon is the Romulans. The free Romulan Government or Zhat Vash never been mentioned yet they incorporated the attack on Mars. STO needs a story arch that's Romulan focused that can sort this out and find a way to incorporate the Star Empire, Tal Shiar, Zhat Vash, the free Romulan government that apparently sprang up in the wake of Romulus' destruction mentioned in Picard and the Republic.

Harry: Ensign First Class what the hell is that??? Janeway: What I promote you to before I promote you to Senior Ensign.

Harry should just go back to Taresia. 🤷

Vulcans don't vacation.

@@matthewdavies2057 Hence the quotation marks.

@@luvondarox Exactly. Perhaps I should have called it a Pon Farr pilgrimage?

Some races in particular: The Hirogen The Borg The Ankari The Spirits of Good Fortune The Kazon The Trabe

My thoughts: The Kazon: the Borg rejected them as unworthy of assimilation, but now the Kazon have come into contact with Federation and Cardassian technology. This could alter their technology to such a degree the Borg might change their minds and start assimilating the Kazon. The Ankari: more wary about being generous with strangers in future. The Hirogen: more dangerous and powerful than before.

I would leave.

You would think, yes, but they’ve probably got too much to do and so much to teach.

This, there's a whole arc.

I wonder if the EMH ever made it back to Earth.

I think in the episode it was said he was a backup or something stupid like that, otherwise the timeline would not add up

Only as long as EVERYONE accepts that the salamander episode isn't canon either.

@@nexy12 But that's my favorite episode...

Evolutionarily superior salamanders ftw

@@among-us-99999 I don't know what *that* of all things is the aspect everyone is always attacking about that episode. Evolutionary, it would make perfect sense for a species to end up with an amphibian/crocodilian physique in the kind of swamp biome we see. It's pretty much the niche of apex predator in an environment like that. Evolution is not about everything getting objectively better all the time - it's about raising as many offspring as efficiently as possible. That's all there is to it really. And while traits like upright walking, manipulator hands, complex abstract thinking and detailed communication offer some general advantages - if those advantages don't weigh out the energy cost or they force the animal into costly habits, it makes more sense to adapt other traits with immediate benefits instead. In a swamp, upright walking is tedious and inefficient, a streamlined body and paddle fins make it much easier to navigate the environment. With abundant food, hands aren't all that useful (compared to an additional set of fins) and without larger social groups, communication barely needs any complexity. Now, how they define the term "evolution" i that episode, *that* is 100% bullshit. Gotta give them a couple million generations for such adaptions to occur via evolution.

@@among-us-99999 Uck, I thought the writers were drunk when they thought of that episode. To think that humans would eventually end up as Salamanders is hard to stomach.

My guess is the Equinox incident was quietly swept under the rug or classified. Starfleet just got through a brutal war with the Dominion and didn't want to hurt morale any further with a public trial. The surviving crew of Equinox probably got off light. They would be allowed to quietly retire, or be assigned to some unimportant job with no authority. I'm also sure Vice Admiral Janeway made sure they never got promoted again and their Starfleet careers went nowhere.... as a punishment. But that punishment is certainly better than the alternative of a trial and death penalty.

@@TheBigExclusive pretty much this. It will have hurt those crewmen's chance for advancement in future, but something tells me they were just ready to let bygones be bygones, under the principle of extenuating circumstance. As much as the crew of the equinox were kind of out of their minds, they were doing whatever they had to do to survive, which while it involves violating the prime directive, and basically enslaving another species, again, it's all they could do.

@@TacComControl - Very good point. Starfleet understands the Equinox were stranded alone for years without any supplies or hope. Watching 70% of the Equinox crew die in the first few months probably made the survivors go crazy and do things they wouldn't normally do. Starfleet doesn't agree with the Equinox crew's actions. But the Starfleet Admirals can't judge or condemn them. It was a matter of life and death. And Starfleet just experienced a war and did many different dark things to beat the Dominion (breaking treaties, cloaking weapons, making biological weapons, viruses, assassinations, lying, murder, using Stars themselves as weapons, and even asking god aliens for help). Starfleet knew full well what survival costs and what it takes. That's why I think the Equinox incident was buried, or even deleted from the public records. They told the Equinox crew to go home and never talk about the horror they experienced. To forget it and move on.

I guess it would be put down as "All the Captain's fault" and the crew would be excused - like Riker was with Adm. Pressman's rule breaking in "The Pegasus". But the fact that they were reduced in rank by Janeway would probably make it impossible to cover up completely.

There ought to have been at least one episode that dealt with the ex-Equinox "crewmen" before the series ended. Well, chalk it up to 1) lack of continuity; and 2) preoccupation with Seven of Nine and her storylines.

that’s a perfect legitimate position and quite realistic, and I think if it had been anyone but Seven of Nine people wouldn’t have such a hard time with it.

@@MackerelCat I agree with both of you.

Janeway as all male Captains in mission, before and after her, only ever had one lover, the space (and by extension her ship, USS Voyager), which left little room to Chakotay for 7 years. Result; he turned to Seven for lack of anyone else. We don't know if their romance deepened or if it was just a flirt. Almost all fanfictions written afterwards, described their relationship as short-lived with him or Seven reuniting with Janeway. Picard's series finally wrote Seven as lesbian, what ruined the chances of seeing Seven and Chakotay back together, one day! Plus, Prodigy seems to explain that Chaktay, now Captain, is lost somewhere in another part of the Universe... .

agreed. Particularly Chakotay, he showed zero passion about remaining in Starfleet whatsoever. He only took the 1st officer position because he wanted to get everyone back home and knew he could contribute towards that. Once that job is done, he's finished - no interest in remaining. The only thing I see Paris staying in potentially is being able to continue flying spacecraft, that at least he had a passion for that correlates to being in Starfleet. Chakotay, though, had NONE.

You should watch properly video and find what happened to Tom and B'elanna, not putting your comment before that. It is saying in video what happened toe ach of them.

@@deanvukovic9069 Not really, while this is a good video it's still fan-made, using generally non-canon sources and the OP's own imagination. My imagination made different paths.

Hehe "poor, dumb harry" made me laugh.

SFDebris is glorious.

Janeway (buried under the ice on that frozen planet) doesn't agree.

that was the backup system doctor so i love they idea the two doctors met each other

The burn did not effect antimatter. Its effected dilithium.

@@RandomNJ I know, BUT only antimater ships used dilthium. Romulan singulairty ships, didn't. Nor did a lot of gama quadrant races. Heck even earth used fusion reactors for older warp ships. All it took was "plasma" to be run through the warp coils. Problem was fusion reactors were big, and didn't generate a lot of plasma for their size, meaning it limited how fast the ship could go and how big the ship could be.

@@jenniferstewarts4851 further proof of how poorly written Discovery is...

@@topogigio7031 Seriously, the Civilian warp 2 freighters in enterprise didn't have anti-mater reactors. those things cost to much, were far to new, and were reserved for starfleet ships. Dilithium didn't exist on earth, the Pheonix didn't use it, it used a fusion reactor to make its historic warp 1 flight. This is like... a massive EMP hitting the earth... and people instantly forgetting that sailboats will still work, that older diesel cars will still work, that... steam engines, steam freighter, and such will still work.

Since the Federation doesn't really have or need money anymore at this point in the timeline, I don't think they would be compensated, because no one gets compensated (or needs paid from what we understand). I'm sure that, in light of their exemplary service (and at Janeway's request) - they'd be debriefed like everyone, pardoned of any crimes they had committed and sent on to choose whatever path they wanted tho! Maybe even offered a role in Starfleet due to their experience - IF they wanted it. Which would be a big deal after being involved in the Maquis. But as always they would be free to leave Starfleet if their values still didn't align.

The Maquis would not be obligated to stay in Starfleet a single minute after the ship returned. Besides, I somehow doubt Starfleet would allow them to retain their equivalent status in Starfleet itself (whether crewman, and definitely not as an officer). At most, they would receive some experience points IF they applied as a new recruit or academy prospect. Then again, it is highly like Starfleet would not hire any former Maquis to begin with as it would potentially undermine the integrity of what Starfleet stands for. The Maquis were and still were classified as a terrorist organization that advocated for the deaths of Starfleet personnel who stood in their way. That did not change over the course of the Dominion war. Starfleet cannot afford to take that risk. Yes, they would be celebrated after returning, get a bottle of champagne from the Federation President, but after the party is over for night, they would not be treated well, career-wise.

Only Q knows

And even the continuum as a whole is a little fuzzy on some of the details.

Out of interest what is that?

Loved see the reactions as a naked 7 ran around shooting everyone in sight. Too fun.

@@OddlySpecificGaming He's referring to a Star Trek Video game by the same name. It's about an 'Elite Force' of Security officers trained for unusual situations. Basically a Starfleet Commando/SEAL/SAS style Team.

I think it's funny that you Zoomers and Boomers think content creators will actually see your comments.