@RogerwilcoFoxtrot But Pine does a great Shatner

@RogerwilcoFoxtrot Agreed

@RogerwilcoFoxtrot naw zack never looked like spock to me. He doesn't even sound like young spock. It takes me out of the series.

Agreed but the face swap looks so natural

watch it with the sound off. Spock is logical Perfection

It is just is a bit eerie to see them again like this in the newest movies. This is very well done, just seems strange.

Genesis!

So when do we get real movies made with this tech?

indeed been along time

It is good to see their younger selves interact in a way we haven't already seen a thousand times before via the same videos.

Yea but the voice might as well be female. 💀 God that was awful.

Yeah, its only Zack's hairline that looks wrong.

Absolutely. It's great to know that Quinto and Nimoy became friends and shared a real bond over Spock. This deep fake just shows what a good choice Quinto was. And while the deep fake doesn't work as well with Chris Pine overlaid with Shatner, Pine is nevertheless a great choice for Kirk.

they already have software now to copy how someone talks. they use it in star wars mandalorian for luke's voice, they took old interviews of mark hamill and the computer was able to replicate his voice

Welp, the tech is here now

They have deepfake voices - pretty good too - that's why i'm wondering why it wasn't used here.

Because Zachary Quinto was born to ne the new Spock :)

Until you hear Quinto's high-pitched voice coming out of Nimoy's mouth.

Same with Shatner. This was very well done IMO.

I think the classic Vulcan hair cut give the computer algorithms something they can really line the faces up with, as well Quinto has a very Nimoy shaped head. As someone else stated he was pretty much born to be Spock 2.0, too bad we didn't get more of him.

@@HeadHunterSix I disagree, he doesnt have the facial structure. Nimoy was so unique. The new spock on Discovery is worse than Quinto though IMO.

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This comment is waaaaay underrated!

LOL

I see what you did there. Have a Like for your trouble

Nice pun!

Kinda. But they're not the same character.

This. ^^^^^

Oh man, I would absolutely love to have all three of the new movies deepfaked like this. 😊

I agree.

If they could hire some solid voice impersonators, why not?

Me too. Yes.

very 1965 meets 2010

Pine's massive spam tho

1965, 2009, and 2013, meet 2020.

Pine’s WIG you mean? Pretty sure Shatner could just swap them out.

William Shatner + Chris Pine =Thomas Jane Anyone else sees this?

Or a little better than mediocre -- see Mandolorian episode 16.

@@failuremagnet that was CGI... not deep fake. Hence why they should use deep fake...CGI for people is crap.

@@madquest8 No, that was Disney's own deep-fake algorithm. Also the term CGI - computer generated images obviously applies to both techniques, but arguable even more for deep fake since it is actually the computer generating the images versus the user using the computer to generating the images.

And there in lies the threat of MSM and HOLLYWOOD!!!

We have seen how they failed with Star Wars Rogue One, where the deepfake was better than the studios attempt

Urban was perhaps the only one that actually resembled the original series actor - DeForest Kelly. Pine was a fairly close choice for a young Shatner and the same with Quinto as Nimoy, though Quinto's voice was too soft in modulation and higher in frequency even for a young..ish Spock, but then Nimoy's voice timbre was iconic. . Of the remaining supporting cast - Cho did okay as Sulu, ditto with Saldana as Uhura. but Simon Pegg as Scotty was a total miscast. All the previous actors were perhaps the closest resemblence to the original cast available, but Pegg ? He just wasn't the right shape, look or anything, even his Scottish accent was without the Doohan mannerisms that at least the other actors came fairly close to emulating in their portrayals of the original cast. . Don't get me wrong, I like Simon Pegg in other things, especially as a straight actor, but not in the Star Trek universe. Not as a well known character at any rate.

@@Deebz270 complete agreement. Pegg did his best but I feel he missed the mark too and should not have been cast as Scotty.

@@realwhatbrains That rather depends on whether you judge him by his performance as an actor or his imitation of James Doohan. For someone looking for the latter, yes; but I'd argue that a new viewer who didn't bring that baggage would judge Pegg the more convincing of the two in that role.

Until that time check out Star Trek Continues right here on KZfaq! They completed the five year mission and even though it’s fan produced it’s VERY professional and good. The guy playing Kirk channels Shatner and ‘Scotty’ is even played by one of Doohan’s sons.

At the end of SNW, id love to see the show at the very least show the command of the Enterprise being passed from Pike to Kirk, and in 8-9 years deep fake tech will be ready for prime time I think. Id love even more for them to do a TOS remake following SNW, but pick up at season 4, finishing up the first 5 year mission, maybe seeing all of the second. Great work! One of the better deepfakes I have seen yet!

We are now in the age of "The Running Man".

@@gabesnooks3549 not long to go now

Someone will eventually do something like this. Shame it won’t be with this series. This looked so good.

I'll second that. I met him several years ago. If only I could have met him 50 years ago, but I was only 7!.

Agree...a very hawt mixture

I was thinking the same thing!!!

It’s Michael Weatherley

@@jamesb16616 I dunno who that is. But he sound gorgeous

And Pine as Kirk and Urban as McCoy.

I wish they got Quinto back for Discovery and Strange New Worlds.

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I was watching Riddick last night and Karl Urban looked so different and the Thor film .

@@speedracer1945You have the greatest name!!!

@@speedracer1945 Karl Urban also was Judge Dredd

@@mr.battle20 funny you said that since I have it on bluray good film and much better than Stallone's Dredd .

Hollywood trying to bring back Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker was a shitty job. KZfaqrs do it so much better

@The Monster Under Your Bed a big part of that is because you know what the other actors are supposed to look like. I've seen worse actors than deepfakes.

"I've done far worse than kill you. I've hurt you, and I wish to go on.... *hurting* you. I shall leave you as you left me -- as you left *her* -- marooned for all eternity in the centre of a dead planet, *buried alive!* -- *KHAAAAANNNNN!*

McCoy looked like a stud on that body....he was a wirey thing back in the day...

@@Robert_Douglass Shatner and Montalban are perfect together. Just the right amount of over the top acting. But seriously, the two characters, Kirk And Kahn complete each other in a Batman Heath Ledger Joker sort of way. Trying to recast and reimagine it was poorly considered and even more poorly executed. Another great example of over the top acting in Trek and on the same theme is Picard's half mad quest to singlehandedly destroy the Borg."The line must be drawn here. This far, no further. And I will make them pay for what they've done."-Picard (angry and half insane, the best Picard)

@@kb9oak749 I did love that scene. "You broke your little ships. See you around, Ahab...." And then Picard quotes Moby Dick as only Sir Patrick Stewart can. "And he piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the rage and hate felt by his whole race. If his chest had been a cannon he would have shot his heart upon it." Listening to that always got me in the feels. Apparently it got Stewart in the feels too -- supposedly this scene was his inspiration to play Captain Ahab in the 1998 remake of Moby Dick.

@@kb9oak749 : that is your opinion and mine is that the newest movies are great. It’s sad to see how many love to jump on the ‘Negative Train Review’ of these well made newest films! Back in the 1960s, watching TOS on a new color TV was the pinnacle of that technology back then. I was just happy that my parents had finally saved enough to get a color TV set. Benedict Cumberbatch’s Kahn was fantastic, he oozed menace and vain self-importance.

Except the original Kirk wasn't cross-eyed.

Cazychel i agree

He does look like him but the script didnt have them act in situations the same . Not at all .

I think him and Carl Urban did a great job, Simon Pegg was terrible as Scotty though. The script was pretty bad, Kirk was made overly incompetent in all 3 flims, don't even get me started on Khan.

Indeed.

Not really an easier place to give out free love.

Yes, definitely.

I would pay good money to see that.

Isn't that just normal Star Trek? lol

Brilliant idea.

Jeffrey Coombs rocks. His mere presence in a film is capable of redeeming the suckiest dreck.

Ooh I’ve got shivers

Best Star Trek line of all time.. and explained James T. Kirk better then what modern POS writers have tried ever sense.

Das was du immer getan hast, trotz aller Widrigkeiten weiter ums Überleben kämpfen...

It's well done but it's nowhere near as good as you suggest. Nimoy's face acting like Quinto's is just obviously wrong, and of course the hair and the rest of the body doesn't match. Same for the others. In some shots it's quite obvious that the computer didn't do an impressive job, either.

@@Argumemnon Good enough for me. Would be a "shut up and take my money buy".

They should redo ALL of the new Star Trek movies this way...it is uncanny how Kirk looks...incredible!! How beautiful to see...Thank You!!!!

I never cease to be amazed by the 'sweet spot' in deepfake: that moment when your brain triggers on the incredibly subtle morph of originalface --> deepfake! Even stepping frame-by-frame doesn't diminish that.

@@Argumemnon just stop it. if this clip was presented to you without you ever having prior knowledge of the source material, you wouldn't even notice.

That is Beyond a shadow of a doubt!

Definitely!

He was a great foe for Kirk a match off of wits . Montalban shined in that role . ST2 was the best film but at the time I first saw it I was hoping more of them face 2 face not on a view screen.

I HATED Bernadine Cumbersnatch in that role. Hated him! What a horrible casting decision. Not only did Eggs Benedict looked NOTHING like Ricardo Montelbaun, he also looked nothing like any person that might carry the name "Khan". At least Ricardo Montelbaun looked vaguely like someone that might have some South Asian DNA. But worse, Benedict Cumberbatch's speech, mannerisms, and entire persona were hopelessly mismatched to the original character. It was rediculous, a total shit show!

@@mbaxter22 I could not agree more!

DeForest was always a wiry but healthy looking guy, like you'd expect a country doctor to be who took care of himself. It's interesting to see him jacked...maybe he'd have jumped into more hand-to-hand combat with Kirk!

@Jerrol Hale Karl Urban is a chameleon - he just completely takes on any character he plays. He's like the Gary Oldman of a new generation.

@@HeadHunterSix Yeah, it sucks that he's not as critically acclaimed as Oldman, though. Over the years I've come to realize Karl Urban is one of the most underrated actors I've ever known! He did a tremendous job in Dredd too.

I'm a doctor not a Judge!

HeadHunter urban is awesome. Love that guy. Shame he can’t do a Cockney accent to save his life though (the boys)

And while we’re at it, Bibi Besch’s face for Dr Carol Marcus as well.

Good point, Sulu on the bridge, Chekhov... bring them on.

@@williamstolley2165 I smell a sequel...

My guess is the limited source video

If they used Sean Kenney's version, it would have been really interesting.

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Gentlemen, gentlemen, you are but mere children...62 here, with MS and a plethora of injuries from a road accident 30 odd years ago...can't beat the original actors...all that chemistry still visible in this marvellous clip...

"only" 42 here and I actually dont give a flying fuck about my age. anyway... any cgi would have been better than this deep fake. I think it's too much manual work to get people look authentic.

Good one lol

Shatner isn't dead so... I get your point

Man when shatner dies it'll be a stab to the heart, what a legend. Have the same feelings about Arnold Schwarzenegger and piers brosnan, great men in films

They aren't dead... They're exploring the Final Frontier.

i liked TNG much better.

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The next thing they gotta work on is speech

@@scsi_joe That will be the most difficult thing as the actors didn't say the exact lines.

@@scsi_joe It's actually well on its way. AI voices are coming along. Some are already damn convincing.

@@MovieMagic515 Find the A.I. youtube Channel twominutepapers. It's already there. Get someone to say a few words, have the computer say them all.

@@wocket42 Thank you

I'd say charisma, in general, is sorely lacking in modern Hollywood. Compare movie stars of yesteryear with today's stars. There is no comparison.

He has more charisma than the entirety of current Hollywood.

Dwayne Johnson is the only one in Hollywood currently who has similar levels of charisma.

I honestly never thought of Shatner as charismatic until now. Now I see it.

I remember listening to an interview with Rich Little on the Carson Podcast, and Little suggested that it’s hard to imagine doing impressions of modern actors because they are generally so interchangeable.

They've got young images & voice for him... iirc, he was in "The Searchers" with John Wayne.

I’d always said if they’d done the revamp 20 years ago, Ray Liotta as Pike. Maybe Gary Sinise as McCoy.

@@mertz7305 I have always thought Gary Sinise should play Bones. Good to see this is not just me.

@@Hiraghm He was in a LOT of movies. He was a movie star before Trek. Dude even played Jesus.

Because his intentions are to entertain. He has no agenda, like Hollywood

wdym high level? this thing is used in hollywood with a better result

I also think this presentation is awe inspiring, if just a tiny bit weird to me. As one of the original fans from the 1960s, it seems so strange to see my childhood idols faces on new cast members ...... doesn’t mean that I don’t like it.

Actually, the Axanar movie CBS/Paramount killed several years ago was of Hollywood quality. Jealous that homegrown fans (the ones who kept ST alive so they can have the franchise money they have today) could make as good, if not better quality films (not for profit. Totally crowd funded) scared them. So now, little films like this is all we get without paying

The man is 90 years old and still kicking, biking. No matter what a studio will try to do, the man did it way beyond the norm, where no man... 👍

How are they trying to erase shatner? What an odd comment. He’s old af they aren’t going to have some old captain.

@@cameronfielder4955 They cancelled him for Star Trek Day.........

@@MarCuseus probably because Shatner isn't supporting the fact they are making Kirk bisexual in the new Pike series. Kurtzman and crew got butt hurt over it.

@@dal5x5 I have no idea if you're full of BS about Kirk, but given how Shatner has acted toward Takei over the years, I could believe he was homophobic/insecure enough to be put out that an alternate universe version of a character he used to play is being portrayed with a different sexuality than he played the character with. As if that would somehow reflect on him. That's pitiful, if it's true.

they could pay Shatner for voice over work only

The way things are going in Hollywood these days, they may have to do this for ALL movies...

Bones looked identical 🤣

Remember, when Shatner was in his early twenties, he was a bit of a pretty-boy.

TBH with the models trained it could process about 80% of the movie in a couple hours. But: copyright.

@@FuturingMachine 😦 wait what? That's amazing 😳

@@FuturingMachine btw could you do it using patreon or something? Or is it copyright also?🤔

Oravankarva would be an interesting concept for a torrent, like with all the Star Wars edits to undo the changes. But the 20% of shots that didn’t work would take a long time to fix

Futuring Machine if that torrent should theoretically happen. Do let us know

Couldn't agree more

I had a huge poster over my bed of Spock (Mr. Nimoy), my first idol. I also have Mr. Nimoy’s music album (bought when it first came out). My iTunes playlist has my favorite song from his album (unless things have changed, his albums outsold Mr. Shatner’s albums). Yes, I will always miss him.

Would pay 40 lol

Packed on a lot of meat on those bones

It just shows how much the cast of the Kelvin films looked like their older counterparts.

Chris Evans not really. Quinto looks like he could be Nimoy’s gay son but his Spock doesn’t look like Spock at all. Or Kirk...or McCoy

The haircut certain helps it.

@@mem1701movies Chris Pine :)

...until he opens his mouth.

I thought the casting was really good.. The writers, directors, and the guys holding the lights on the other hand... Oie.

@@hawkdsl writer was Kurtzman that is fucking the dead corpse of Star Trek to this day and director was JJ Abrams who after destroying Star Trek moved to destroying Star Wars so that says a lot. The cast for these movies was good though

@@quaronncz464 Yea, forgot about Kurtzman. So true on all accounts.

Kelins Kirk was a wimp where Shatner's Kirk used his wit to get outta a bad situation and the kelins Kirk turns to the crew and says , I'm sorry. ...WTF ???

@@speedracer1945 Who's Kelin? If you mean Chris Pine, he did an ok job with a daddy issue Kirk. In which the character was annoying and uncharismatic, but fit with the events of the rest of the dumb alternate universe that never should've happened.

Nope

She did, until I laid eyes on Meg Ryan.

Spank bank! =P

William is prettier lol..Wow. Were is his Grand Daughter At lol...

In her early career yes. She lost me with the talking baby movies

Oh my!

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@@darcrequiem the nine likes I got are all accounts held by Bill shatner

Sulu is such a good character and George Takei did such a good job with him. However, in real life George Takei is an annoying crybaby and an un-American communist. It is obvious why Shatner never befriended him in real life.

@@firstborn7370 you may want to rethink your comment...

Interesting premise and comment

Here's some... It looks terrible

What about....fascinating🖖🏻

Yes, I can certainly understand how you feel!!! I watched TOS back in the 1960s when it first was aired. This is sort of eerie to me, to see TOS cast faces placed onto the new cast. Imagine how it feels to see such advanced technology, when I didn’t ever expect to see TOS episodes again. My parents had just bought a color TV, so being able to watch these episodes in color (instead of black and white) was a big deal! Now look at the fabulous technology that is used now, whoa ........ it is wonderful to see the new cast bring back TOS.

@@slcRN1971 Exactly!

I know right, that diva wanna get overpaid too damn much, ridiculous

Might not be enough visual samples for those ones

very true .

Or Anson Mount?

@@LtFoodstamp I think you could find samples of Jeffery Hunter in other movies from around the that time period.

@@gabrielabate6020 And Bibi Besch was on the soap Another World so you can find younger versions of her pretty easily

Totally agree

Dear GOD no!

@Kloomontone By design. Easier to control.

oh it will certainly happen, think of it, the last iteration of star trek was derailed by an actors death they could literally bring back the dead with this technology star trek would be THE IDEAL venue to exploit this thing

I would say: If you are making a remake of an already existing character - then yes, CGI If you are making a new StarTrek with new characters- then no (but this won't happen since JJ. Abrams is involved ha haaaa) but I guess right now, in this century it heavily depends on the money.. and time maybe... so..

Yes he did, he wouldn’t even play this role until Mr. Nimoy gave his personal approval. They even became friends.

Except the mouth. The mouth was wrong. Nimoy never held his mouth that way. I thought the movie with pine and quinto was fine- it just wasn't star trek. it was kelvin. different product... different characters... different value and morality... and different ages. They were too young in the new movie.

I disagree. Quinto didn't reflect Nimoy's Spock at all. He was too angry. Vulcan was destroyed but Nimoy's Spock was still calm and restrained.

@@NavarinoDC that's more the fault of the writing than ZP's performance, to be fair. Not sure how he could scream at the heavens and then beat the crap out of Cumberbatch and maintain Nimoy's mannerisms

@@lnfreeman True. I don't blame ZQ, the writers didn't get that Vulcans contain their volatile emotions with the displine of logic and Spock has more turmoil than most, being part human. LN portrayed this beautifully but ZQs Spock's emotions were too close to the surface.

Agree.

It’s weird how everyone who plays pike is hands down the best at it.

JohnL2112 yeah... THE CAGE is one of my favorite episodes. Yet Greenwood won me over and Anson Mount (even though I don’t like those versions of Trek). But Hunter was great even if people think he was wooden. Shatner was great too in the first two seasons... then hammy

@@JohnL2112 don't jinx it

@@mem1701movies I agree with your assessment of Jeff Hunter. He always gave me the impression of a deep personality that didn't say much unless it was needed or called for. A good captain, but not necessarily a very extroverted one.

It makes it easier to see how they ruined Star Trek.

He's trying his best. Lol

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 that's a very stupid reason to put there

I disagree, Mr. Nimoy approved the selection of Mr. Quinto , who are we to disagree with that high recommendation! Plus I really don’t think that Mr. Quinto has an effeminate voice, it’s just not as deep as Mr. Nimoy (my childhood idol back in the 1960s). Zachary Quinto was quite fearsome as the evil character, Sylar in the TV series ‘Heroes’.