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@KneelB4Bacon2 жыл бұрын
I love the scene where Kirk is darkly musing about what their counterparts might be up to and we learn that they were found out immediately.
@EnvisionerWill2 жыл бұрын
Hohoh, uploaded 4 minutes ago! We come at last to what I consider the single best episode of the Original Series. It's an awesome (if unrealistic) premise, executed with superlative talent. Everything is done almost perfectly, and the result is maximum entertainment. Little wonder that the concept would keep getting brought back in later works.
@beefheart6662 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the mirror universe is just Q having fun.
@thexalon2 жыл бұрын
Or, not DeLancy's Q, but somebody else from the Q Continuum.
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
The Reeves -Stevens with William Shatner tell the tale of Tiberuis the 1st. The Emporor of the Terran Empire. When he was overthrown he forged the Cardsssians and Klingons into an allience to overthrow the The Terran Empire. Now to Lore's point...it was not that the mirror universe was the construct or intefered with. Its the control sample. Hands off. The hands in this case being The Preservers. Fair point. If you were a star faring race on par with any 24th Century power or more so, Billions of years ago, and still exist billions of years later....what would such beings be capable of? The reason our prime universe is so much better is due to their subtle manipulations. A fun theory.
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
Nobody thinks about Threlane? Surely his parent were kids once.
@rayvenkman20879 ай бұрын
Mirror Universe Q would be the stern Q but instead of having a playful or insightful manner to his character; he’s a harsh and distant being. A iron-hearted judge.
@thexalon2 жыл бұрын
One thing of course worth mentioning in regards to this episode is the long legacy of Spock's facial hair, both pretty well codifying the "goatee of evil" and also inspiring a prog rock band.
@corssecurity Жыл бұрын
And decades later and one country away, "Spocking a five".
@EnvisionerWill2 жыл бұрын
Obligatory plug for Star Trek Continues, which did a pretty excellent followup for this episode from the perspective of Mirror Spock. We can still reconcile that with the events of DS9; he did ultimately fail, but we get to see how he succeeded for a time.
@JS-wp4gs2 жыл бұрын
The agonizer being tuned to the individual makes sense. Its also pointed out by phlox that the agony booth essentially does exactly that by being calibrated to the specific individual using a synaptic scan before its used in the enterprise mirror universe episode. So it stands to reason that the agonizer would operate in a similar way
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
2:05, speaking of crafted universes. The TOS novels had an interesting theory about planets visited by the Enterprise (in the preremastered episodes) having same geography as Earth, only top=bottom. Usually crafted by same Preservers who whisked endangered communities to other planets.
@landline002 жыл бұрын
Mirror, Mirror has the strongest open of any episode ever.
@stuartwald23952 жыл бұрын
With regard to the final transporter room scene, one item missed in the discussion was Scotty's role in the decision of who was to stay behind. This was the one time where Scotty had an emotional "JIM!" to underline the point; this was otherwise reserved only to Spock and McCoy (and the occasional old girlfriend who showed up for the episode). With regard to the ability to quickly impersonate a variant of yourself without prior warning, see the 1970's short stories "Visit to a Weird Planet" (where Kirk, Spock and McCoy are sent back to the "Star Trek" set and meet Gene Roddenberry) and "Visit to a Weird Planet Revisited" (Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley are transported from the set of "The Omega Glory" onto the real Enterprise and interact with Scotty and Kor).
@truckingwithatablet44892 жыл бұрын
I love that the story continued in "Fairest of Them All"
@SchneeflockeMonsoon Жыл бұрын
So, I want to point something out: The time doesn’t line up for any interaction with the mirror universe. Kirk outright says that he doesn’t know the stardate, and in all the others: it’s entirely possible it’s a different mirror universe each time. With that caveat: as long as *any* universe had a beam-up from the Halkan planet during an ion storm that weakened the fabric between it and alternate universe: it would cross over with all of the others. The crazy thing for me is that they only ever have two universe crossing over in these, and not a whole jumble like in the SG-1 episode (I believe it’s _Crossover_ ).
@reluctantme51832 жыл бұрын
I am at the 2:40 mark listening so far ... you made me think right now ... perhaps the "Q Continuum" created the Mirror Universe as for fun? lol
@corssecurity Жыл бұрын
Excellent point. Best provide in your will for someone to upload your unpublished content. Yes likely Q. He can certainly change timelines or create new ones. Q has been through every timeline, dimension etc.
@BS-nw1qr2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda curious, wether "Captain's Mate/Bedwarmer/Lover" is an official position in the Terran Empire Fleet or we just happen to see several people maneuvering themselves to this role across the francise.
@wenlocke2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly a useful spot to be in (in Terran terms). Your main job is to do as the captain wishes, you probably won't get backstabbed as often as the Captain, as long as you keep the captain happy, your position is secure, and there's a lot of scope for being the one who most has the captains ear. if you're happy with what you have to do to get it, and keep it, you're safer than most and have more subtle power than most. Ironically, it not being a "real" position would only help with the "high influence, lower risk" aspect. Can't officially gain promotion if you can't be directly promoted to it, so fewer reasons to backstab on principle.
@rmsgrey2 жыл бұрын
@@wenlocke Of course, the more you work at using that influence, the more enemies you can create for yourself, so there's a trade-off between influence and risk there.
@singletona0822 жыл бұрын
I suspect it isn't an official posting precisely because of how useful it is. Noone wants to break the illusion. For the people who take the bedwarmer they don't want people calling them out. and for the potential bedwarmer? It is a place of invaluable intel gathering, gives you a great chance to assassinate promote yourself, and gain protection in the meantime. Even if you DON'T want to kill the captain/admiral/etc? It puts you in a position to have official protection while acting as your partner's hatchet and or eyes/ears.
@ronryan73982 жыл бұрын
Kirk called that the Federation.
@mjbull51562 жыл бұрын
I doubt this would be an official position on ship but rather a place in the unofficial hierarchy of which officer's faction a crewmember belonged to, since all the officers are running their own gangster crews. See what a mafioso's goombah is in The Soprano's
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
The novel you mentioned is "The Sorrows of Empire" by David Mack.
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
Own it. And the sequel Rise Like Lions. I could see that mirror universe being a precusor to Andromeda's universe. Or a parallel of one anyways. Seperated by a few thousand years.
@Lonovavir2 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is the mirror universe was created by a higher power (Q anyone?) either as a morality test or a playground for the characters in the prime universe. We never see the characters travel to another alternate universe, I'd be surprised if the mirror universe was an actual alternate universe.
@foyoGames2 жыл бұрын
Uhura's abs...oh yeah
@philipmorgenthaler87142 жыл бұрын
I just got the chance to work with Barbra Luna at LA comic con. Our club got the chance to provide escort to her, and several other actors.... including Nichelle Nichols (her final public appearance). Great review today Lore! Love your show
@Geekchorus422 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode.
@mr51406 Жыл бұрын
It’s been eons since I’d seen it in full. Wow! I finally found the bit that they “Forest Gumped” to slot in Sisko meeting Kirk. 🌟Especially with Uhura staring in the background so intently. (Methinks CFCF 12 Montreal chopped off a lot of the teasers and codas in their rerunning because those are often new to me.) This is how to do a “Cloud Effect” show properly. 🔸Parallel universes: it’s not preposterous, but… If you agree with Hugh Everett and Sean Carroll (and Rom!😉) it is possible that the Mirror U could exist. The insurmountable problems are finding it and crossing into it. If we had gotten a 2nd Mirror U show, or if it had been a 2-parter, I’m sure everyone would have wanted to see the shenanigans that Mirror Kirk, Scotty, McCoy and Uhura got up to.
@FunkyMonkeyI Жыл бұрын
The first mention of the Terran Empire.
@christineherrmann2052 жыл бұрын
This episode is the _Citadel DLC_ of Star Trek.
@jamesmoritz35842 жыл бұрын
It's just a television show. You can make an argument about pretty much any science fiction show. This episode was on the top 10 on many lists. I enjoyed this episode. I didn't put much thought into all the scenes but I did question what you said about everything happening at to the same time.
@810PRODUCTIONS2 жыл бұрын
32:06 - "Office politics in an Arby's"
@lancebaylis31692 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was the first example of an evil alternative universe in science fiction, but Mirror Mirror undoubtedly quantified it and defined the trope forevermore. It's influence is seen in everything from Buffy to Stargate and more besides. And of course, Deep Space Nine and Enterprise. Now, I think I prefer TOS's take on this, because it's as basic as it gets: the peaceful Federation is flipped to become a fascist empire. The reason I think this works is because it's that "for want of a nail" thing. The Empire and the Federation effectively do the same thing by conpletely different means. They are both expansionist and seek to gain new territory against other (presumed in the mirror-verse in this episode) galactic powers; the difference is one of conquest vs co-operation. That the planet they're in contact with is identical in both universes, and is equally skeptical of Kirk and crew in both, only underlines this. The differences between the Terrans and the Federation are vast, but also, paradoxically, small too. They're analogous to each other. Like images in a mirror, you might say. This isn't the silliness of the DS9 or ENT Mirror-verse episodes which presume that everything and everybody in the alternative world is different. Indeed, even within this episode, the inference is that (for example) Mirror Spock is still a man to whom a logical proposotion can be suggested, and he isn't automatically 'bad', he just lives in a version of the Federation where brutality over-rode philosophy. Future adventures in this universe would simply assume everyone is like a nastier version of their counterparts in our world. This led to some of those episodes becoming cartoonish and corny instead of what we have here: very much a morality tale in the best TOS sense. Of the later ones I think maybe only Crossover and In A Mirror Darkly almost get it right. IMO *all* the other ones DS9 did were flawed or missed the point in some way. Of special note: I always enjoyed the peculiar little continuity nod of Mirror Kirk succeeding to Captain of the Enterprise by assissinating Captain Pike's counterpart. That's a cute touch, and when the computer says this Shatner plays a look across his face of being horrified. I like that. It's as though the mention of Pike and how Kirk got the chair is the same splash of cold water that McCoy feels hearing his medical staff taking bets about when patients will die. Also, another of those Season 2 episodes that features the entire ensemble (including both Chekov and Sulu this time) and actually gives everyone something substantive to do in the story. Sadly all too rare in the original series.
@thedragondemands51862 жыл бұрын
I am openly surprised you didn’t shave your beard for this episode
@810PRODUCTIONS2 жыл бұрын
27:38 - Fascinating!
@asyouwish95672 жыл бұрын
The objection prisons this is the only Parallel universe.
@rylansato2 жыл бұрын
That convenience administrator is Q
@silkwesir1444 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think the mirror universe version of you might actually be exactly the same. Or at least similar and really difficult to tell apart.
@quasimodojdls2 жыл бұрын
Easily one of my hands down favorites of TOS. Like DS9: "Crossover" it plays the concept more or less straight. Yes, there are cartoonish levels of villainy on display but the peril faced by "our" crew really helps keep it grounded. It's also a great ensemble piece - Uhura and Scotty are invaluable in the plot and the escape attempt (Uhura's scene on the bridge with Mirror Sulu really shows that the character can shine when she's allowed to). Conversely, Mirror Sulu and Mirror Chekov make for great antagonists. And Mirror Spock is simply amazing! And Nimoy looks amazing with that goatee; it's a shame he couldn't have kept it for regular Spock. If there is any problem it's that it's not a full ensemble show. I would have loved to see something of Mirror McCoy, Mirror Scotty, and Mirror Uhura aside from the quick shot of them in the non-mirror Enterprise's brig. It's a shame TOS never got a chance to revisit the Mirror Universe like DS9 did so we could have those characters fleshed out. 10/10 P.S. - I like to imagine that Mirror Chekov is being shown Abrams/Kurtzman Trek while in the Agony Booth.
@mjbull51562 жыл бұрын
We do not know whether Mirror Kirk can act, because his landing party never figured out they were not in their reality and needed to. Possibly because that Kirk is not as sharp as ours, or was too hubristic to recognize that people could act differently from his culture. There is also the cold fact that our Kirk set his counterpart up for assassination because he thought that any version of Spock would be a better person than tgat monster.
@jamespepper86712 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see evil mccoy, if kirk is a raving maniac, imagine mccoy
@singletona0822 жыл бұрын
Buffer Overflows into a deadly calm.
@Edax_Royeaux2 жыл бұрын
He'd be a tool for Big Pharma, draining the crew of all their credits.
@DlosStrongestSoldier2 жыл бұрын
Hey Lore when do you think you'll ever review TAS in this similar format to the other runimations
@stanislavkostarnov21572 жыл бұрын
for me, it makes sense that there is a continuum of universes (every event happens in every possible way) it takes more of a corruption to phase between the universes as the difference grows, the closer the events in these universes are the easier it is to transverse between them (sort of like quantuum event-order variation in real life)... the only thing that needs to be added is that a personal nature of individuals is randomized over the layers of the universe... thus, say if the universe is #15c37ef1f01 everyone is within the Rodenberry-box, whilst if the universe is #15c37ef1f02 everyone is of an evil inclination, but in #1537ef103 everyone is again good, or again evil... it is a matter of some pattern within the numbers rather than a linear difference.
@donovanbradford82312 жыл бұрын
A very cool breakdown and a nice thought that the Tantalus field is a transporter not a decintigrator. As far as how the mirrior counter parts were figured out I'm guessing Kirk ordered the Halkuns destroyed and was relieved of duty. Uhura, Scotty, and McCoy probably assaulted someone along the way. And given Kirk being relieved probably broke custody but was finally caught. As far as the factions go I think Kirk had the biggest, Spock had the second or was even with Sulu. After Kirk is saved from assassination we have his men show up and one says, "smart boy switching to the top dog" Now given everyone's reaction to Kirk disobeying orders is what set off the attempt, young hungry wolves tend to be the quickest hence why Chekhov acts first as opposed to Spock or Sulu. But also you bring up a great point there are some attributes of this culture which are similar to what would later be used by the Klingons moving up in rank either through promotion or by taking out your commander because he is weak. Given how Spock talks to Kirk and mentions I don't intend to disappear like all your opponents, meaning Mirror Kirk rules with fear rather than being the best. Vs Spock who given how no one openly wants to challenge let alone piss him off, meaning Spocks victories are in plaim view for all to see while Kirk's were in the shadows. But a fun breakdown non the less.
@TheDECKFISH2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis :)
@BPond72 жыл бұрын
There is only one thing I would have changed about this episode, and it’s a minor thing. When Kirk and the gang get into their fight with Spock, Uhura grabs what looks like an animal skull off of a shelf, and hands it to Kirk, who proceeds to crack it over Spock’s head. I would have had HER do the skull cracking!😀 This episode also has one of my favorite lines of the series, when the Halkan emissary notes that Kirk has the power to take the dilithium by force, to which Kirk replies, “But we won’t. Consider that.”, with his trademark smile. Awesome stuff! 🖖😀
@domfluff2 жыл бұрын
The Mirror universe is stupid, but: If you'd like a hand-waved explanation for why the Mirror universe could happen, then perhaps there are an infinite number of mirror universes, and it's precisely *because* this one is so close that makes travel between them possible at all.
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
If you have an infinite number then any combonation will exist. It must exist.
@williamsternritter32142 жыл бұрын
Regarding the notion that every moron would be gunning for your position once you're high enough ... well yeah. All you need is to look at former eastern block where morons were regularly in charge either by design (a.k.a. party orders) or by ascending to that position by any means necessary. People would exploit others just to get the slightest advantage and something like being a first officer instead of a captain does not really put you out of the spotlight. Which is also why all of these regimes tend to fall apart through internal infighting.
@Mrhullsie22 жыл бұрын
I take it that the Halkan people practice something similar to jainism, where some believers will not go out in the dark out of concern they may step on and kill an insect. They will usually avoid antibiotics if possible but if essential will take them with deep regret for the bacteria they kill.
@George_M_2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, General Order 24, Exterminatus
@nathanbrady27042 жыл бұрын
It is actually trivial to rationalise the mirror universe for this episode. IF you start with the premise of an infinite multiverse due to many worlds based quantum mechanics and then if the Transporter setting were more akin to "search all mirror worlds for a compatible Kirk who is beaming right now and swap them" rather than the swap universe setting as later episodes posit. Given these premises there HAS to be a ship and w Kirk due to the nature of infinity. As for later episodes ... atoms from one universe are certainly left in the other and visa verse, perhaps once one connection is made those universes are linked or draw closer together and making 'verse hoppibg much easier. You are still on your own to explain the Enterprise,stuff though
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
There is an old novel circa 81 I think, The Infinitive of go. A transporter system created. It locks on to the closest congruent space and quatum tunnels the occupants from one place the starting capsule, to the end capsule. But there is a flaw they did not concieve. And only became apperant after building a sattalite space station. The most congruent space is in the next universe. They have this explained when after an astronaught is injured so severely that he needs emergency surgey the base being the nearest place that can do it. So they transport him. What shows up in the capsule is an alien in a human space suit and name tag matching the expected astronaut. Who speaks perfect English. Turns out in his univesre humanity evolved from an ancestor of the modern baboon. The further you travel in the one universe the further from your home universe you travel. He knew it, but it was his only choice if he wanted to live.
@DrewLSsix2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why people don't just transport chunks of the enemy ship away at any given opportunity.
@markwatson87142 жыл бұрын
You can't transport through shields (unless you're the Borg). Makes it a bit tricky to pull off, even if you manage to take out the targets shields you still need to drop your own to use the transporter. It's also why they don't win most battles by simply beaming a few bombs onto the enemy ship.
@johnbockelie38992 жыл бұрын
After their return to the normal / usual universe, Uhura kept a close eye on Mr.Sulu.
@johnbockelie38992 жыл бұрын
The outfit change was classic. " Look Captain, our uniforms changed " First thing you notice, after all its the MIRROR universe.😄
@johnbockelie38992 жыл бұрын
" Damnit Jim , that's not MY sick bay, it's a damned torture chamber !!" McCoy notices a difference .
@johnbockelie38992 жыл бұрын
Checkov, " Please....dont make me Scream !!!".
@saxbend2 жыл бұрын
Who crafted this universe? Jerome Bixby.
@the-scamp2 жыл бұрын
Is Doctor Spock the ship's doctor on the mirror Enterprice, or is it still Doctor Bone's?
@duncanwilliams23502 жыл бұрын
They kinda did the factions thing once in star trek. The MACOs from Enterprise and commander Reed. I admit that I still wanted more from that and that other factions would be awesome, but we do have at least one example.
@balatroaprilis72652 жыл бұрын
Before ST, Perry Mason did the joke ending after the final wrap-up.
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the Terran Empire at least didn't have the problem of people using connections to get to "sweet gigs", like the "Balance of terror" Romulans. Also, many cultures in 20th century Earth.
@wcoleman992 жыл бұрын
all i can think of is all those ds9 mirror universe novels. Going by them the prophets also exist in multiple universes and somehow sisko was supposed to be on the runabout where julian and kira crossed over and was supposed to make mirror universe sisko the one. to which it kick starts the cardassian who was changed to look like kira becoming the emissary. after reading them all it made me realize why i kind of hate the whole mirror universe concept thing in general.
@esecallum2 жыл бұрын
enterprise incidents with scott and steve kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZ57ddOky6vYpas.html In this episode of Enterprise Incidents, Steve and Scott dig into the first, failed pilot of Star Trek starring Jeffery Hunter as Captain Christopher Pike and Majel Barrett as Number One. Is this the Star Trek we all love? No. Is this an episode which contains many of the brilliant ideas which will come to define one of the greatest shows of all time? Absolutely.
@esecallum2 жыл бұрын
why i left uncle harry all night burgher bar... short story about multipleuniverses
@gordondavis61682 жыл бұрын
With an infinite amount of universes, there would be several Enterprises doing the same mission at the same time. He does not grasp the concept of infinity. Only the nearly exact same universes would allow “cross over.” Thus, his main argument is specious.
@mjbull51562 жыл бұрын
Mirror Kirk is Chris Pine Kirk?
@athrunzala69192 жыл бұрын
Crafted Universe, it is a realtime simulation generated by a highly advanced race to run variables, but the variables need specific inputs ie: identical individuals, to study the different choices of individuals and to track the different paths of culture and tech. Maybe for military purposes. Maybe the mirror Universe is the real universe the simulation is run in and we are the simulation :( Also, other idea, I always had a weird thought over the years that maybe illness' is the result of someone dying (killed) in one universe, so the corresponding individual can die in the mirror universe to maintain the same individuals.
@fredrikcarlstedt3932 жыл бұрын
Spegel, Spegel ....
@stevena4882 жыл бұрын
The episode that has the bizarre distinction for being one of the first ever tv series to show a womans belly button. Also, Spock with a goatee. So freaking iconic of "Evil twin" tropes now that it's gotten to the level of parody. This episode is genuinely one of those "Try not to think about it because it makes no sense really" episodes that are SO much fun
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
How much sense would depend on how parallel universes are generated. The odds being astronomical of so close a paralell depends on how many universes there are. Referencing Data in the giant novel Dark Mirror, Picard asks him what are their odds of finding a specific universe? Data says that the answer would require at least a reasonable estimate of how many faces the hypothetical hyper solid has. Sooo given an infinite number the odds become 100% of it being true.
@DrewLSsix2 жыл бұрын
@@Ozzy_2014 it makes a bit of sense if you imagine that in order for such a transfer to happen there must be a universe that's essentially the same, you can't switch with a copy of you if there's no copy of you there. This raises the question of how many times has the transporter swapped people between two basically identical universes with nobody even suspecting??
@corssecurity Жыл бұрын
There's an argument currently that despite the astronomical odds of life forming, let alone planets forming in a literal infinite universe then it is inevitable. If gravity was stronger all the gas and mater would be part of the star and no planets. If the surface tension of water was weaker then rocks wouldn't erode and you have no soil. Or if stronger no minerals would be left on land to be deposited becoming soil. A little hotter, a little cooler, a little closer or further from the star.. Infinite means there's an identical you doing the exact same thing at the exact same time,somewhere. What exists beyond the universal horizon?
@flyingfiddler90q2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your take on the Stargate alternate universe episodes...
Not stupid.These universes are called parallel universes and can vary depending on the choices of the people in it.There is a parallel universe where you never had your disabling accident or became a podcaster.
@athrunzala69192 жыл бұрын
Transporter as a weapon: I always think back to Laurence Krauss's "The Science of Star Trek" where he explains the only way convert matter into energy would be to flash heat it 300 times more powerful than the sun, so yeah, just the conversion process itself would be more powerful than any phaser or torpedo
@gallendugall89132 жыл бұрын
Technically transporters don't convert matter to energy. If Star Fleet had matter to energy capability they wouldn't need anti-matter just a coal bin inside the transporter room. The matter is still coherent, your molecules are not broken down, we actually see POV from inside the beam in one episode. Much like how we talk about electron flow in electronics even though the electrons don't move, transporters have a lot of shorthand jargon attached to them.
@joluoto2 жыл бұрын
Spock's goatee is the real star of this episode.
@the-scamp2 жыл бұрын
That's your opinion
@wakirk2 жыл бұрын
voyager was a wasted opportunity for shipboard politics. Arguments and different ways to handle the same situation, and Janeway realizing her ideas don't always work. IF ONLY.
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
I think you should watch "Book of Boba Fett". Some issues you mentioned are cropping up from first episode.
@francoislacombe90712 жыл бұрын
Concerning why people would want to climb up the power ladder, even though it paints a bigger target on their backs. First, most people don't normally think that far ahead. They see the prize, they go for it, and figure they'll deal with the consequences when they encounter them, assuming they even think about that possibility. Second, people tend to vastly overestimate their capabilities and underestimate those of their adversaries. I mean, there are actually people who think they could prevail in a one on one unarmed fight against a gorilla, need I say more? And third, if one doesn't want to climb higher on the power ladder, their immobility makes them an obstacle to the many below them who do want to climb, meaning they are in as much danger, perhaps in more danger in fact, if they stay put as if they move up. They really don't have a choice.
@Edax_Royeaux2 жыл бұрын
Revolutionaries who crave power often do so for want to enact change, not for the personal benefits or to live a long life.
@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh2 жыл бұрын
i tend to just ignore most issues with this, but how did the crew transport into the clothing of the other crew.
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
This crosses over into "Quantum Leap". It wasn't the bodies that crossed over, only the minds. That's my explanation.
@comentedonakeyboard2 жыл бұрын
Rationaly a ultrastupid Episode. But considering (Jungian) Psychology a fascinating Observation on Shadowprojektion. As a Exploration of the dark Side of our Heroes on Par (or even better then) "Kirk:2"🖖
@SeruraRenge112 жыл бұрын
I'm somewhat disappoited that when DS9 brought back the mirror universe, we didn't have Mirror Sisko with a goatee since s2 Sisko didn't have it yet. And then when we have s4 onwards Sisko, Mirror Sisko DOESN'T have the goatee. I know Mirror Sisko was dead by that point, but still.
@Edax_Royeaux2 жыл бұрын
That would require the actor shaving the goatee off, or giving him the Superman jelly lip.
@SeruraRenge112 жыл бұрын
@@Edax_Royeaux I mean Spock had a fake goatee, they could've done that for the first time and then filmed evil Sisko's later scenes before he grew back his goatee.
@mjbull51562 жыл бұрын
The Sisko is his own mirror opposite, like a photon.
@dragon_ninja_2186 Жыл бұрын
Oh c’mon the first minute and already complaining about the mirror universe! I get it’s not perfect and not everyone’s cup of tea. You think it’s stupid? Fine. But I actually find it fascinating!
@ChocolatierRob2 жыл бұрын
And I still maintain that the standard trek reality is the manufactured reality and the so called mirror reality is in fact the ‘real’ one.
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
That was the idea in Preservers by the " binars" and Shatner.
@StefanTravis2 жыл бұрын
I wonder about the mirror-universe Soong and his androids. Why doesn't Data rule the federation? Maybe mirror-data will. Making him R Daneel Olivaw.
@Ozzy_20142 жыл бұрын
Dark Mirror explained that Soong was killed. He is far to unique and unorthodox to be allowed to live. Their are no androids.
@zvimur2 жыл бұрын
If anybody in Trekverse are Bailey and Olivaw, surely it's Kirk and Spock.
@SeeHere22 жыл бұрын
Ghostrunner
@the-scamp2 жыл бұрын
Why do the women wear thigh boots in the mirror universe?
@esecallum2 жыл бұрын
opposing factions on a ship? that is the most stupid and dumb idea i have ever heard.. you need a spell on a aircraft carrier.
@EnvisionerWill2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about this fight scene is that the thing that finally takes Spock out is McCoy *smashing a skull* on his head. As in, hitting the bone around your brain with another piece of bone hard enough to break the other bone. Now, a dried-out skull is probably a lot more brittle than one that's made of living bone (yes, bones are living tissue, a lot of people don't realize that but it's absolutely true). And Vulcan skulls could easily be harder than human ones. But even so....OUCH. Little wonder Spock did actually go down from that. I like to think McCoy like sprained his shoulder swinging that thing so hard, and just doesn't show it all throughout the episode because he knows he can take the appropriate pills and/or liquor once his friends aren't looking.
@RealLordFuture2 жыл бұрын
The idea of inter-ship politics was supposed to happen on Voyager, but the creators/producers chickened out in the end. Once again the lost potential of Voyager.
@rmsgrey2 жыл бұрын
That would be intra-ship politics - inter-ship would be between two or more ships.
@DrewLSsix2 жыл бұрын
@@rmsgrey there was an opportunity to add a ship to Voyagers journey with the Equinox. A small fast scout ship would have been handy to have, though the canon says it's actually quite slow.
@Eelco_de_Boer2 жыл бұрын
Summary: A transporter malfunction sends Kirk, McCoy, Scotty, and Uhura into a parallel universe where the Federation is replaced by an evil Empire. Will Kirk get his crew back to their univers, and how will Spock deal with evil Kirk? (the famous Parallel Universe episode, completely silly but great fun to watch.)
@singletona0822 жыл бұрын
The Mirror universe is stupid.... And yet at the same time? It's a fun kind of stupid. You raise an excellent point I never noticed. Dude was wink nodding at Kirk going 'hey we literally can't stop you from taking this stuff.' That Kirk either was playing his part and 'ya we're not gonna do that' to save public face, or kirk was being full on Stupid and not seeing the implied under the table aid being offered. As for your 'Convenience being.' Q. I blame Q. He went 'oh now THAT'S interesting. Let's see how it plays out. Oh wait they'll be sussed out. *snap* there we go.' And i agree with your asessment of Mirror Spock. He's SMART for not wanting to be the man in charge. Enterprise is honestly a plum of an assignment where he gets to do what he actually wants and has enough of a powerbase to be relatively safe in the process. And your'e right. I don't know if it's intentional or not but throughout Trek Kirk is capible of inspiring great loyalty in his people, which has a fun payoff at the end with the captain's woman saving him and sparing him. Would be nice if she killed mirror kirk as soon as he steps off the pad and... while Spock is probably not sexually interested in her, would find the idea of her as someone to confide in and collaborate with as Logical.
@johnfahey29972 жыл бұрын
Awb
@rowlandbuck27032 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand any mirror universe episode because DS9 has way too many of those episodes, and Kira was the only good alternate character.
@myfootballjesus2 жыл бұрын
ALTERNATIVE universes in all shows are ridiculous including the latest spidermans. Its just fanboy fanfilm fan service and lazy writing
@garbageday5872 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the Star Trek episode. I'm out of here...