Star Wars Rogue One - CGI Tarkin Explained

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7 жыл бұрын

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story CGI revealed! Rogue One featured cameos from characters in Star Wars A New Hope, including Grand Moff Tarkin (the late Peter Cushing) and another surprise character, with CGI and visual effects from George Lucas' company Industrial Light & Magic.
Spoilers below!
Rogue One ends with the reveal of Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) as she appeared in the original Star Wars in 1977. How did Rogue One pull off this effect? And how did the movie feature Tarkin in several scenes after Peter Cushing died in 1994? Erik Voss explains the advanced visual effects techniques used by John Knoll of Industrial Light & Magic, combining stand-in actors, archive footage, and motion capture to re-create a character on screen. How intensive is this process exactly, and what ethical questions does it present?
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@Fairpoint374
@Fairpoint374 7 жыл бұрын
The fighter pilots weren't cgi, it was unused stock footage cleaned up from a new hope.
@Fairpoint374
@Fairpoint374 7 жыл бұрын
Bernard Black what did I do lol XD
@223boyz7
@223boyz7 7 жыл бұрын
Bernard Black lol dafuq?
@monsterjambrony
@monsterjambrony 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Lane I saw that from the start.
@eddieallen2092
@eddieallen2092 7 жыл бұрын
The CGI characters may be one of those future "corrections"/"improvements" that will be highly welcomed some day when the technology evolves to the point it isn't so dramatically distracting. I'll give them an "E" for effort (better than an "F") but the rest of the film blew me away and pulled me in which is probably why these critical effects (Tarkin and Leia only) were so devestatingly disappointing.
@bushvo6112
@bushvo6112 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Lane no wonder why the footage looks kinda old timey.
@mishtaromaniello8295
@mishtaromaniello8295 7 жыл бұрын
This movie was better than the Force Awakens in my opinion.
@TheSliderBy
@TheSliderBy 7 жыл бұрын
Mishta Romaniello Most people won't agree, but it was my favourite Star Wars.
@mudbutton2
@mudbutton2 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the opposite.
@marussia2343
@marussia2343 7 жыл бұрын
That isn't an accomplishment.
@Grayvind
@Grayvind 7 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. Apples are so much better than oranges.
@pug9431
@pug9431 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it's not hard to top Episode 7. It was Phantom Menace tier to me.
@user-ow3lu5bk4b
@user-ow3lu5bk4b 7 жыл бұрын
May the force be with Carrie Fisher.. RIP
@stclemmons1969
@stclemmons1969 7 жыл бұрын
In the first words of Darth Vader: *_NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!_*
@rasmuslaurila7611
@rasmuslaurila7611 7 жыл бұрын
БΞΛТ ТłMΞ in memorian carrie fisher
@DisgruntledPigumon
@DisgruntledPigumon 7 жыл бұрын
It's R.I.P. not RIP, nothing is ripping. Be respectful, type the correct term.
@user-ow3lu5bk4b
@user-ow3lu5bk4b 7 жыл бұрын
Pigumon Be respectful? Calm down, every one makes mistakes. And english isn't even my mother tongue... But I read many english people saying RIP instead of R.I.P.
@timbrown95
@timbrown95 7 жыл бұрын
also, it can also be RIP, it's an acronym. for example GCSE, KFC, RIP, TLA, are all Acronyms that do not require full stops, no acronym does. it's not a matter of respect
@leno4399
@leno4399 7 жыл бұрын
R.I.P peter cushing
@clashpanda120
@clashpanda120 7 жыл бұрын
I was about to say that
@co2noxious57
@co2noxious57 7 жыл бұрын
Jan Brady and her mother
@clashpanda120
@clashpanda120 7 жыл бұрын
CO2 Noxious yea. :-(
@lukesbricks1635
@lukesbricks1635 7 жыл бұрын
To be honest, as soon as I saw Tarkin I could tell it was CGI.
@Bryan-dr5qy
@Bryan-dr5qy 7 жыл бұрын
Lukesbricks16 Me too, but it was really impressive. This is something they need to improve for the home video release.
@lukesbricks1635
@lukesbricks1635 7 жыл бұрын
Yea it was pretty impressive and I agree it needs to be tweaked slightly.
@Bryan-dr5qy
@Bryan-dr5qy 7 жыл бұрын
Lukesbricks16 Leia was good in a scary way to me at least
@lukesbricks1635
@lukesbricks1635 7 жыл бұрын
Yea
@Theomite
@Theomite 7 жыл бұрын
His being dead for 22 years was kind of a dead giveaway.
@dallasmed65
@dallasmed65 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone is WAY to picky these days. The film was amazing.
@flaggerify
@flaggerify 7 жыл бұрын
Picky? They're going in droves to see these movies. Not picky enough.
@iTubeYourDadsMinge
@iTubeYourDadsMinge 7 жыл бұрын
It was an incredible delivery of fan service. But it doesn't even remotely touch The Force Awakens as a standalone Star Wars movie (and nor should it).
@jayb3304
@jayb3304 7 жыл бұрын
Rogue One was much better than TFA. It had less mistakes, a better (and ORIGINAL) story, and better action. TFA was an exact copy of A New Hope, except with better graphics and new characters.
@DavidAGIII
@DavidAGIII 7 жыл бұрын
Jay b I didn't really like most of it tbh. Didn't really care about any of the new characters knowing they'd die.
@jayb3304
@jayb3304 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I said. TFA isn't a sequel, it is a rehashed ANH.
@nakyer
@nakyer 7 жыл бұрын
Gold and Red leaders? Thought those shots were lifted from scenes not used in A NEW HOPE, film that'd been sitting around all these years.
@votewithbullets5027
@votewithbullets5027 7 жыл бұрын
The were scenes used in ANH. I recognised all of their takes from that film. The dialog was changed but not the shot.
@nakyer
@nakyer 7 жыл бұрын
30_Helens Agree Hmmm... Not what I've heard. Could they have been outtakes? Alternate filmings of the same shots?
@votewithbullets5027
@votewithbullets5027 7 жыл бұрын
nakyer Unless I missed something (I could have) I am sure all of the shots were from the original film, not outtakes. I admit that I only saw the film twice, so I could have missed something
@votewithbullets5027
@votewithbullets5027 7 жыл бұрын
I can verify that one scene with Red Leader, where he says "watch the fire from those towers" is exactly the scene where he states "Negative, it didn't go in. It just impacted on the surface." He is leaning to his right and grimacing exactly the same. It looked like a direct pull, not an outtake.
@votewithbullets5027
@votewithbullets5027 7 жыл бұрын
Wait a couple of weeks (if that) Some youtuber will have a pirated copy and he will compare the scenes and confirm whether they are outtakes or direct screen-grabs.
@Hilversumborn
@Hilversumborn 7 жыл бұрын
All I can see is Tarkin wearing slippers in the middle of in Imperial meeting.
@BostonRedSoxForever
@BostonRedSoxForever 7 жыл бұрын
They were red. Red as blood.
@canadian__ninja
@canadian__ninja 7 жыл бұрын
I picture bunny slippers, personally. Pink bunny slippers
@gijs.22
@gijs.22 7 жыл бұрын
Hilversumborn i can just see him walk with a storm trooper escort around the deathstar with slippers
@NearVSMello
@NearVSMello 7 жыл бұрын
That squeak when he walks!
@AJ-js4xi
@AJ-js4xi 7 жыл бұрын
CG Tarkin and Leia were way better than I expected.
@toxiccity6446
@toxiccity6446 7 жыл бұрын
John Smith Tarkin was good, but Leia, nah..
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura 7 жыл бұрын
A N I M E N I M E
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 7 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting them and when I saw it I was baffled for how good it was. Got stunned for the rest of the movie since Tarkin appeared.
@Auricfield
@Auricfield 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure in 10 years they'll redo them even better...
@didgeridoo0373
@didgeridoo0373 7 жыл бұрын
John Smith I noticed Tarkin but nobody else
@meeep9099
@meeep9099 7 жыл бұрын
Leia and tarkin looked VERY real, but when they talk it looks wierd.
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 7 жыл бұрын
and talk they did
@Reticuli
@Reticuli 7 жыл бұрын
Weird lips like the talking baby, combined with corpse eyes like in those stupid Final Fantasy movies. The skin looks a little off, too.
@ChristianSmithDiamondminer1609
@ChristianSmithDiamondminer1609 7 жыл бұрын
true but i totally think it was worth it......not as bad as everyone is saying
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 7 жыл бұрын
***** Worth it? Indeed. They need to push the envelope in CGI in order to reach photorealism. If they keep working towards it we will have realistic CGI in 20 years tops. Ok maybe 30.
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 7 жыл бұрын
Ok show me
@pizzatimestudios9506
@pizzatimestudios9506 7 жыл бұрын
When Leia said hope I cried because she died just hours before I watched the movie
@amanwithaperm5142
@amanwithaperm5142 7 жыл бұрын
Thori Thoroddsen I will stay up all night on New Year's Eve to see 2016crash,burn and be tortured in hell.
@checksandbalences
@checksandbalences 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@Spooky_Psyche
@Spooky_Psyche 7 жыл бұрын
EliteAthlete15 - because this year was ass
@PuffyOne1898
@PuffyOne1898 7 жыл бұрын
Well, EliteAthlete15, allow me: David Bowie died Alan Rickman died Prince died Muhammad Ali died Gene Wilder died Carrie Fisher died Debbie Reynolds died Harambe was shot React World controversy Trump became president Cubs win the World Series Orlando nightclub shooting Anything I forgot?
@PuffyOne1898
@PuffyOne1898 7 жыл бұрын
In some people's eyes.
@ctmpodcast6901
@ctmpodcast6901 7 жыл бұрын
Characters were obvious CGI for anyone with an eye for it.
@jakeboos9860
@jakeboos9860 7 жыл бұрын
CTM Podcast I'm baffled by the people who don't notice it
@Themboys22
@Themboys22 7 жыл бұрын
CTM Podcast i didn't notice that they used cgi for they're faces until leia came on the screen
@oofmandan1183
@oofmandan1183 7 жыл бұрын
I knew tarkin was CGI when I saw that his movements were a tinge too smooth and unnatural
@AspelShuyin
@AspelShuyin 7 жыл бұрын
I was actually super impressed by it. I got back last night and thought "if I didn't know what I was looking at, I wouldn't have known"; then it turns out Red and Gold Leader were CGI and that blew my mind because I didn't know.
@jakeboos9860
@jakeboos9860 7 жыл бұрын
Rory Walker from what I heard red and gold leader weren't CGI they just used unused footage from a new hope
@MrSalvii0069
@MrSalvii0069 7 жыл бұрын
The cgi was good if people can't get over that they got issues ....
@Hallucination
@Hallucination 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Some of these losers who say it took them right out of the movie and was too distracting are hilarious.
@2adamast
@2adamast 7 жыл бұрын
CGI all the way, we don't need no stinking actors
@MrSalvii0069
@MrSalvii0069 7 жыл бұрын
For me it's good it keeps there legacies alive
@anujmchitale
@anujmchitale 7 жыл бұрын
I say the CGI wasn't just good, but outstanding. Not just the face recreations but every landscape and craft as well. The detail in every freaking scene is huge!
@billharmon9732
@billharmon9732 7 жыл бұрын
This is another step into the future of the film experience and those who won't allow themselves to appreciate it will be the ones missing out on the fun and enjoyment to be had.
@ElbertTreble
@ElbertTreble 7 жыл бұрын
CGI Tarkin and CGI Princess Leia was so good that it creeped me out.
@jameshandley2561
@jameshandley2561 7 жыл бұрын
me to l had no ldea l swere that tarln was cgl and lm good at detecting cg
@moonled
@moonled 7 жыл бұрын
That could mean that we'll see new Elvis movies, and Bogart and Marilyn Monroe and even Heath Ledger. It could also spawn an underground for porn with any actor living or dead.
@upsyjaja
@upsyjaja 7 жыл бұрын
moonled true thought 😯
@mlu.
@mlu. 7 жыл бұрын
After the movie I asked my friends what they think of Tarkin and Leia. They did not notice it at all :)
@recentevil
@recentevil 7 жыл бұрын
Mathias My son, an avid gamer (12yo), did not notice Tarkin was MOCAP at all. I was freaking out! We've come a long way from dead eyed Polar Express CGI.
@The_Destroyer_1
@The_Destroyer_1 7 жыл бұрын
When I saw Tarkin at the theathers it just blew my mind, same with Lea. Just fantastic!
@diogo763
@diogo763 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't even noticed that Tarkin was made with CGI
@ThibautVDP
@ThibautVDP 7 жыл бұрын
really? his skin being too perfectly imperfect, the overdone reflection in his eyes and the too powerful idle movements? real people don't idle move so smoothly. rather when they move, it's more jerky movements. if i didn't notice these 3 things, i wouldn't have known he was cgi either
@lastfirst8564
@lastfirst8564 7 жыл бұрын
ThibautVDP Basically the only thing that threw me was his movements, him walking, it was as If he power walked everywere, like they sped him up ever so slightly to still seem kinda beleivable but enouh for humans to be able to distinguish the difference, we have been looking at humans for thousands of years after all so we can see slight inaccuracies.
@lancairw867
@lancairw867 7 жыл бұрын
Diogo Silva fooled me as well. I kept thinking how is he still alive? Hollywood magic 👍🏼
@lancairw867
@lancairw867 7 жыл бұрын
ThibautVDP I guess I was seduced by the dark side while watching 😕
@yoshi6236
@yoshi6236 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed, lol. But I didnt notice that Leia was made with CGI.
@VenomSnake00
@VenomSnake00 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin in Revenge of the Sith was 100% practical effects. They used an actor that resembled Cushing, and applied prosthetics to his face to get an even closer image. I swear, people don't give Lucas credit where it is due.
@simplythebest2k
@simplythebest2k 7 жыл бұрын
lol I know.... I actually love when some people go what crapfest of CGI and I'm all guess what it was your precious practical effects.
@thebatman1482
@thebatman1482 7 жыл бұрын
That's probably the only practical effect lucas has used in the prequels tho
@ninjamaster102
@ninjamaster102 7 жыл бұрын
But if that were replicated in Rogue One, the illusion would have been completely lost as soon as Tarkin opened his mouth to speak. I don't think prosthetics would have worked properly here.
@thebatman1482
@thebatman1482 7 жыл бұрын
+RaphProgListener No. The big shots in the prequels are ALL CGI, like the army of troopers. In the OT, the sets were real. In the prequels, the CGI was too much, and its one of the main problems of those movies
@joe2199
@joe2199 7 жыл бұрын
This CGI was closer.
@papabeanguy
@papabeanguy 7 жыл бұрын
Rogue one was so good. i honestly liked it better than the fore awakens
@leytonjay
@leytonjay 7 жыл бұрын
papabeanguy I really enjoyed it but because it has a different vibe and obviously a different kind of ending it didn't feel like Star Wars in the middle. But totally did and beginning and end.
@oisinholz
@oisinholz 7 жыл бұрын
At ease Command Worf
@simonross77
@simonross77 7 жыл бұрын
papabeanguy couldn't agree more. It felt more like an adult version of Star Wars and at the end where it all leads to the beginning of New Hope....well, I thought that was amazing. CGI was fantastic, especially Tarkin. I could see it was CGI, but after the second scene of his, I forgot he'd been brought back from the dead to the big screen.
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 7 жыл бұрын
papabeanguy that statement looks so ridiculous to me because force awakens was a pile of dogshit but rogue one is probably the best star wars movie..
@DJFalkoHannover
@DJFalkoHannover 7 жыл бұрын
me2
@mistahdovahh
@mistahdovahh 7 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Carrie Fisher
@mistahdovahh
@mistahdovahh 7 жыл бұрын
Carrie Fisher Died
@quoniam426
@quoniam426 7 жыл бұрын
And her mother too by the way... :'(
@plasticbastard3312
@plasticbastard3312 7 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese Geek and Nerd Panda NEWS FLASH! CARIE FISHER IS ALIVE LIVING WITH ELVIS & GEORGE MICHAEL IN THE BAHAMAS!
@plasticbastard3312
@plasticbastard3312 7 жыл бұрын
Quo Niam HER MOTHER'S IN THE BAHAMAS TOO! :-)
@welshman100
@welshman100 7 жыл бұрын
Saw Rogue one tonight, seeing Peter Cushing made such a special meaning to the film, but iltumatly at the end when Carrie Fisher's 'Princess Leia' came on screen no more than 5hours after I heard of her death today it was bone chilling. Like seriously bone chilling. Rest in peace. I do hope they dont carry this on however, just recast new people to fill the spots of deceased actors.
@bigsteve20
@bigsteve20 7 жыл бұрын
Happened to us too as we saw it just today. I was speechless at the end. The wife started crying. For some reason I didn't expect to see Princess Leia in this movie. As I noticed what ship it was in the end sequence I was like oh dear....here it comes.
@Tejbegrizzly
@Tejbegrizzly 7 жыл бұрын
Same here...manly tears were shed almost because how sadly was the timing "perfect"..
@yoshi6236
@yoshi6236 6 жыл бұрын
*carry* this on
@gagetyree5606
@gagetyree5606 7 жыл бұрын
Okay everyone is complaining about the cgi, I'll sum it up Tarkin: thought it was amazing Leia: Noticeable but still good
@hell5fire974
@hell5fire974 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought they just found someone who looked like Tarkin!!
@thorheimdal887
@thorheimdal887 7 жыл бұрын
Orson Krennic yeah. I thought tarkin's was great and leia's not amazing but good
@theumbrellaman2954
@theumbrellaman2954 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, why complain? When thanks to these recreations we can see just how far CGI technology has come. And it is eerie that they could basically recreate someone, and have very few errors in the final product. Personally I say well done!
@Handsx
@Handsx 7 жыл бұрын
for real! i watched this in 4k 3d at the local museum giant screen theater and really for real i thought it was just a body double type actor. for both. it was so good!
@theumbrellaman2954
@theumbrellaman2954 7 жыл бұрын
Paul D What an oddity, the fact Tarkin was CGI was not very noticeable at least to me. It goes to show how far along CGI has come. Look at beowulf, now there's obvious CGI.
@charlesfinley3234
@charlesfinley3234 7 жыл бұрын
I actually found both Tarkin and Leia to be obviously CGI, to the point of immersion breaking. It was well done, no doubt, but still very obvious.
@NukeDetonator
@NukeDetonator 7 жыл бұрын
It wasn't immersion breaking for me, only because they sounded exactly like the people they were impersonating. It felt like Tarkins character on screen.
@Double-R-Nothing
@Double-R-Nothing 7 жыл бұрын
Leia in particular had an extreme "uncanny valley" look about her.
@cassandrascutchfield7143
@cassandrascutchfield7143 7 жыл бұрын
Charles Finley I didn't know until I looked it up
@atplaypics380
@atplaypics380 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was distracted by the CGI only because it was soooo close to real. It's like the picture on the wall that is like a hair crooked. And at first, I thought Leia's eyes looked "odd". But then I looked at her in the original film. It's pretty close.
@cassandrascutchfield7143
@cassandrascutchfield7143 7 жыл бұрын
Charles Finley both me and my father (who have both grown up with starwars) were both amazed at how they had recreated him. It was an amazing job and only pessimists would care
@equarg
@equarg 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Carrie Fisher. I saw Rogue One 4 days before she passes... The end is now bitter sweet. May the Force be with her always.
@sparks6477
@sparks6477 7 жыл бұрын
equarg I just saw it 3 mins ago and when I saw her at the end I cried a little
@danielszalok8540
@danielszalok8540 7 жыл бұрын
I watched the movie on Friday. I was so happy when I saw the young Leia at the ending... It was one of the best endings in movie history! When I watch the movie again, I will be very sad at the end...
@nicklaskent3289
@nicklaskent3289 7 жыл бұрын
I ended up watching the film shortly after hearing about her death. Such an emotional day. May the force be with her.
@quoniam426
@quoniam426 7 жыл бұрын
Me too because I decided to watch the movie only after I learned what happened. I imagine that scene would have had a different impact on us hadn't she died yet.
@christophercombs7561
@christophercombs7561 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed cgi Tarkin immediately
@christophercombs7561
@christophercombs7561 7 жыл бұрын
not bad but it was immediately aware of it
@SterbenCyrodill
@SterbenCyrodill 7 жыл бұрын
It was similar to games, so it was easy to spot on
@eplanti
@eplanti 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just normal format, it was really apparent immediately, I mean there are 38 billion skin cells on the body which means around 38x4 verts to hopefully make that look normal, my pc can handle around 8mil verts... i think a studio might handle 1 billion w/ a cluster. So, yeah..
@hohlchristopher9812
@hohlchristopher9812 7 жыл бұрын
I doubt they would make the topology so dense. I would assume for any finer details to make the light hit correctly it would be down to bumps/normals and very good textures.
@ClickWasd
@ClickWasd 7 жыл бұрын
I actually thought it was Charles Dance when he first appeared in Rogue One. The scene where he was looking out of the Death Star with his back towards the camera.
@hiphopheadninethree
@hiphopheadninethree 7 жыл бұрын
LOL WHAT? The pilots weren't digital.... They just re-used footage from A New Hope, (this has been confirmed by Gareth Edwards). That's why it looked grainy and old AF.
@mistaflippyiv4114
@mistaflippyiv4114 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Farrance I watched it in 2D and didn't notice in the heat of the moment, Edwards did well
@ViralKiller
@ViralKiller 7 жыл бұрын
what they straight up re-used the footage? not even a digital touch-up?
@TheAccomplice2
@TheAccomplice2 7 жыл бұрын
Not all the pilots were from old footage because I know for a fact Drewe Henley, Red Leader, came back to reprise his role before he passed away earlier this year. They just used some minor CGI to make him look younger.
@ZigzSniping
@ZigzSniping 7 жыл бұрын
Galen Starkiller that's magic
@ericeast7860
@ericeast7860 7 жыл бұрын
So why they using a CGI Tarkin anyway when they have perfectly healthy Tywin Lannister who could play the role brilliantly with his eyes closed?
@NavidIsANoob
@NavidIsANoob 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit yeah. But then again, his face structure is nothing like Peter Cushing's face was.
@ericeast7860
@ericeast7860 7 жыл бұрын
I think Charles Dance looks pretty dang close today to what Peter Cushing did back then, and with just a little Hollywood magic.... they could have made him look so close to the original that the audience not only wouldn't notice, but they wouldn't care. Charles Dance could have played the shit out of Tarkin and they would be able to use him in other installments that take place in between Episodes III and IV. They missed a golden opportunity here, pun intended.
@daveco1270
@daveco1270 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, just find actors that look like the two characters they CGI'd. The CGI was weird looking and distracting to me. My brother had no idea the Peter Cushing character was CGI. Not sure how anyone wouldn't know that Carrie Fisher was CGI, she looked kind of weird. They both looked like characters from The Polar Express to me.
@Eleglas
@Eleglas 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone I've spoken to seems to have differing opinions, some say that the Leia CGI was worse (my opinion too), some say it was better; some say they couldn't really see the difference between the CGI and the real thing.
@RedDeadSakharine
@RedDeadSakharine 7 жыл бұрын
Charles Dance isn't gaunt enough and his face not long enough. They have the same hairline and similar eyes. I like Charles Dance, but I much prefer CGI Tarkin. Cushing was fabulous and I love that they stayed true to him. The CGI didn't bother me in the slightest. A recast would've. I hate recasts. It always puts a dent into what the original actors have created before. And I'm saying that as a Cushing *and* Dance fan. I'd rather have them cast Dance in a new role, giving him the freedom to express a role that hasn't been defined yet.
@philipians1635
@philipians1635 7 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Carrie Fisher
@ThibautVDP
@ThibautVDP 7 жыл бұрын
tarkin deserves only the best cgi available.
@thisisadebrown
@thisisadebrown 7 жыл бұрын
The pilots weren't CGI, it was old cottage that was never used and was cleaned up
@jackberry
@jackberry 7 жыл бұрын
This Is Ade Brown cottage
@francoparnetti
@francoparnetti 7 жыл бұрын
Wow didnt know that!
@Miss_Darko
@Miss_Darko 7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why those moments looked slightly odd.
@stevenc8053
@stevenc8053 7 жыл бұрын
What he said. All the stuff they did in this movie to make it work the way it did is amazing. I even liked the fact that they sadly killed Red 5 which later became Luke's call sign. It also explains why they had so few fighters in a New Hope to stop the death star.
@thisisadebrown
@thisisadebrown 7 жыл бұрын
Steven C yep, never quoted Edwards, just pointed out that the pilots weren't CGI :)
@archer1949
@archer1949 7 жыл бұрын
CGI Tarkin's voicework was the most impressive part, for me.
@blueroninstudios
@blueroninstudios 7 жыл бұрын
He got the cadence perfectly, even if we all knew it wasn't Cushing, so what they were trying to get across got acoss, even if in the back of your mind it's just the slightest bit jarring. Minor nitpick for a really entertaining film, I'm gonna see it again before the week is out!
@MinecraftLudde
@MinecraftLudde 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was that impressive. One could clearly hear it wasn't him. I was more impressed with the CGI face
@dragonthc
@dragonthc 7 жыл бұрын
That and young Leia were the only good parts of the film.
@steveconn
@steveconn 7 жыл бұрын
Eyes were too close together.
@ender10man
@ender10man 7 жыл бұрын
The star destroyer looks JUST like a plastic mold prop that's the size of a Lego minifig
@zefork
@zefork 7 жыл бұрын
that's funny. the original star destroyer props were made (at least in part) of lego
@yozzzeh
@yozzzeh 7 жыл бұрын
because that's what they used
@millennialretcon8307
@millennialretcon8307 7 жыл бұрын
I thought that plastic star destroyer shot was the set up for a gag where it turns out to be a model on someone's desk.
@torpedo996
@torpedo996 7 жыл бұрын
lol lol lol
@ender10man
@ender10man 7 жыл бұрын
Tintin 1870
@xxczerxx
@xxczerxx 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin was obvious for some reason, looked like a videogame cutscene. The others were very well done though
@jackwayne1626
@jackwayne1626 7 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting 20 years to see a remastered version of rogue one with real life looking CGI characters
@jackwayne1626
@jackwayne1626 7 жыл бұрын
like they did in the original trilogy
@tuspastasdiarias7282
@tuspastasdiarias7282 7 жыл бұрын
M6sterOid no idea if it was because I never knew he died, but I never noticed he was cgi, but leia, she looked directly ripped from Battlefront
@jackwayne1626
@jackwayne1626 7 жыл бұрын
TusPastasDiarias Maybe because they knew she would only shows up 5sec in the movie?
@tuspastasdiarias7282
@tuspastasdiarias7282 7 жыл бұрын
sure, I get the context, just not the holy praise leia's character is getting (aside from the whole passing away stuff)
@kippie8680
@kippie8680 7 жыл бұрын
I seriously didn't know that leia was cgi, she looked really good
@cetkat
@cetkat 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Rutte I agree. My first guess was that it was actually remastered original outtake footage & cgi was used for blending. Tarkin was more noticeable, but I got used to it pretty quickly.
@syafiraa.k.6403
@syafiraa.k.6403 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Rutte I KNOW!!
@mr.mediocregamer9653
@mr.mediocregamer9653 7 жыл бұрын
I saw it, I only thought Leia was CGI. I didn't know anyone else was.
@mr.mediocregamer9653
@mr.mediocregamer9653 7 жыл бұрын
Shenanigan Studios No, I was 2 when I saw a new hope and didn't rewatch it. So I had no idea that was a CGI actor...so I wasn't looking for signs of CGI
@outsider238
@outsider238 7 жыл бұрын
Eethan O'Connell Yeah I actually thought Leia looked worse than Tarkin but they were both impressive.
@mr.mediocregamer9653
@mr.mediocregamer9653 7 жыл бұрын
***** I had no idea who he was...
@rene2775
@rene2775 7 жыл бұрын
haha same, I didn't know Tarkin was recreated via CGI
@tcschenks
@tcschenks 7 жыл бұрын
Rene277! Deleted scenes?
@rizon72
@rizon72 7 жыл бұрын
They didn't look completely realistic, but close enough to where I didn't care and actually enhanced the movie by having the characters.
@cha5
@cha5 7 жыл бұрын
When I first heard about the Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher CGI stand ins I was really skeptical, but I have to admit they really pulled it off with them and they worked far better than I ever thought they would.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 7 жыл бұрын
This technology is still relatively new! its going to get so good that it will eventually be indistinguishable from the real thing.
@isaacnewton6930
@isaacnewton6930 7 жыл бұрын
they both look like video game character. Leia is a joke at 5:13
@agfagaevart
@agfagaevart 7 жыл бұрын
Puffy Leia...Not good...
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 5 жыл бұрын
They haven't got there yet, they don't look quite human.
@fuoco1365
@fuoco1365 7 жыл бұрын
Also Tarkin I could tell was CGI instantly but with leia she actually looked kinda real
@christophermorgan4759
@christophermorgan4759 7 жыл бұрын
Fuoco 136 the CGI made tarkin look shorter I think, Leia had that heart attack and that seemed legit real.
@jothambate3487
@jothambate3487 7 жыл бұрын
Fuoco 136 My 3d glasses were a bit off when I went to watch it in the cinema, so Tarkin looked real to me, although I could see at some points that leia was cgi. Something to do with the position of the mouth.
@RowanBuchananroabie
@RowanBuchananroabie 6 жыл бұрын
Fuoco 136 Opposite for me. Tarkin looked off, but not too much. Leia looked really CGI. Her expressions didn't move naturally. Tarkin had the same issue, but overall his face moved less so it wasn't quite as glaring to me.
@standepain
@standepain 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one bummed they didn't use/find footage of Porkins?
@standepain
@standepain 7 жыл бұрын
Could have been a reference to him but I was hoping for some archival footage of him in the cockpit.
@uglyguitarguy
@uglyguitarguy 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Porkins.
@nixnightbird138
@nixnightbird138 7 жыл бұрын
Porkins was on a special mission to the planet Buffetooine, and couldn't be present for the Battle of Scarif.
@iwanttoseemrshow
@iwanttoseemrshow 7 жыл бұрын
If only they would've stayed on target
@surf1punk
@surf1punk 7 жыл бұрын
I was so ready for a Porkins moment in the space battle!
@rohithkumarsp
@rohithkumarsp 7 жыл бұрын
they used GOLD leader and RED leader footage from OLD Lucas film archive that they never used, its not CGI
@jaybeedub
@jaybeedub 7 жыл бұрын
Was just about to say this. They used the same dialog and everything. The only thing they really fudged was the line Gold Leader said, where they took the line "We're making our attack run and spliced in "on the shield" or something close to that.
@theunundunly5368
@theunundunly5368 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Carrie Fisher.....May the Force be with her...
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 7 жыл бұрын
Gad, the end shot of Leia looked like a plastic doll head....
@Ravenwest19
@Ravenwest19 7 жыл бұрын
exactly
@akhbarzullah
@akhbarzullah 7 жыл бұрын
PtolemyJones When i first saw it, i actually thought they hired an actor that looked like Carrie Fisher. XD
@Th3Pr0digalS0n
@Th3Pr0digalS0n 7 жыл бұрын
I loved the CG Tarken. It made me so happy!
@asaka616
@asaka616 7 жыл бұрын
The CGI Tarkin was disturbing. They shouldnt have done it.
@mragunathan1627
@mragunathan1627 7 жыл бұрын
No they were right to do it, they just overdid it. Vader could have easily filled in more of Tarkin's scenes.
@Kratos40595
@Kratos40595 7 жыл бұрын
asaka616 yep took me out the movie - could tell it was CGI
@karlepaul6632
@karlepaul6632 7 жыл бұрын
No, your lack of faith is disturbing....Ahhhh I'm just kidding....I'm on the fence with this one myself, although it's definitely a LOT better than in ROTS
@Terrathrax
@Terrathrax 7 жыл бұрын
Disagree. They made him look fantastic. Was quite impressed.
@going_downtown
@going_downtown 7 жыл бұрын
The death star was tarkins project all the way from episode 3 to 4. ruins the canon if he isnt there over seeing it.
@thevibestation5174
@thevibestation5174 7 жыл бұрын
It felt so nostalgic seeing tarkin turn around in the movie 😂
@JustJunuh
@JustJunuh 7 жыл бұрын
I thought leia's face was literally perfect but Tarkin I could tell it was cgi
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 7 жыл бұрын
Holedigger999 your usually can. Even good CGI has tell tale signs.
@JustJunuh
@JustJunuh 7 жыл бұрын
Mongo Boogie waiting for the day when u cant tell the difference. exciting times.
@jaydenpham2983
@jaydenpham2983 7 жыл бұрын
Holedigger999 yeah
@skidwardtesticles9868
@skidwardtesticles9868 7 жыл бұрын
RIP she died
@reazongiovanni3382
@reazongiovanni3382 7 жыл бұрын
I can't even sleep after seeing this movie
@WALZ97
@WALZ97 7 жыл бұрын
Reazon Giovanni heart is still shaking after that end scene
@therealmaskriz5716
@therealmaskriz5716 7 жыл бұрын
WALZ97 my god I'm scuurred
@brandondoak4087
@brandondoak4087 7 жыл бұрын
SAME HERE
@reazongiovanni3382
@reazongiovanni3382 7 жыл бұрын
TurboCMinusMinus lol no
@reazongiovanni3382
@reazongiovanni3382 7 жыл бұрын
Can't sleep because I'm so excited for the star wars universe
@Obsidius
@Obsidius 7 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who saw the planetary shield with a single opening on Scarif as a nod to 'Spaceballs'.
@ChrisUAnimation
@ChrisUAnimation 7 жыл бұрын
"She's gone from suck to blow" blow the shit out of that shield.
@THX--nn5bu
@THX--nn5bu 7 жыл бұрын
"Keep firing assholes!"
@jasperalmoore
@jasperalmoore 7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget using the unconscious/dead guard's hand to open the door!
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 7 жыл бұрын
That was the very first thing that popped into my head when I saw it. The rebels should have just tried 1-2-3-4-5.
@mr.jodaniels4156
@mr.jodaniels4156 7 жыл бұрын
I bet she gives great helmet.
@theocean1973
@theocean1973 7 жыл бұрын
I thought young Leia appeared much less realistic than Tarkin. Tarkin moved very realistically (but looked a little strange physically) that I first thought he was done with makeup on a somewhat-look-alike. Maybe it's because her face is younger and she smiles, so it was harder to render her appearance.
@barryrodgers3039
@barryrodgers3039 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. To me the "hope" line she delivered seemed out of character and inappropriate for the situation where the rebellion was getting their butts kicked and they were all likely about to die. I get that it was supposed to fit with earlier mentions of "hope" in the movie, but it just didn't work well. Tarkin was a little in the uncanny valley where he looked almost real but not quite which is creepy. Still a good movie.
@voycorp
@voycorp 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Carrie Fisher ;(
@lonzoball6294
@lonzoball6294 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Richards paying respects fam
@Sexyaries914
@Sexyaries914 7 жыл бұрын
Carrie Fisher we will remember you😔😪👼
@tiberiius
@tiberiius 7 жыл бұрын
critics are complaining about he CG being sub par. it's the best CG recreation i've seen yet. it didn't take me out of the movie at all. in fact thought it was kinda cool to have peter cushing's likeness back. it wouldn't have been good to have a fill in actor.
@MrAlienkiller
@MrAlienkiller 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's next level stuff!
@gaslampvillage
@gaslampvillage 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, 100%
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 7 жыл бұрын
It still looks better than the crappy CGI used on Jeff Bridges in TRON LEGACY.
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 7 жыл бұрын
***** True.
@GloomEmbraced
@GloomEmbraced 7 жыл бұрын
I got the impression that Clu, being artificial, was supposed to look a bit.... artificial.
@ianhamlett8839
@ianhamlett8839 7 жыл бұрын
"Give it ten years and itll look just as shit, no tech dates well." Davy Jones says hi.
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 7 жыл бұрын
***** Pirates of the Caribbean I guess.
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, DEAD MAN'S CHEST came out in 2006. Still pretty impressive for that year.
@CrapeCraft
@CrapeCraft 7 жыл бұрын
The CGI when they were standing still looked real. But as soon as they moved it was clear as day.
@lastfirst8564
@lastfirst8564 7 жыл бұрын
CaptainCrape Agreed
@DaUnaDistanza
@DaUnaDistanza 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't catch Tarkin as CGI until my Dad pointed it out.
@KajsaBernhardina
@KajsaBernhardina 7 жыл бұрын
DaUnaDistanza me neither! Mind blown!
@KajsaBernhardina
@KajsaBernhardina 7 жыл бұрын
Brenda Vee I didn't know he was dead. I sort of recognized him but I didn't know where from.
@Bramble451
@Bramble451 7 жыл бұрын
I had exactly the opposite reaction. I thought Tarkin's CGI was fantastic while Leia's was noticeably artificial. And why does everybody forget Jeff Bridge's CLU in Tron: Legacy?
@lordwacko958
@lordwacko958 7 жыл бұрын
Bramble451 tarkin's CGI was believable, and Leia's was slightly worse
@Siper2
@Siper2 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It was certainly a valiant effort, but Leia was definitely noticeable as CGI. Tarkin on the other hand was fantastic, even though his mouth movements were a little odd at times. Maybe a side-profile shot of Leia might have been better, rather than a frontal view? Just my initial impression.
@foxhound6364
@foxhound6364 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought Tarkin was the same actor, just made to look younger digitally. I had no idea that he died, and it was another actor with CG. Leia looked horrible, and I wish they just didn't show her face, because the CG looks more realistic in Star Wars Rebels.
@alexandrelot2798
@alexandrelot2798 7 жыл бұрын
This kind of vfx is really amazing to see, because most of those scenes were shot twice (body double and the actor), but when the actor is actually dead then the reconstruction is way more complex. The finishing process for both were visually different, but Leia's finishing was perhaps uncomplete. They may correct it on the Blu-ray version.
@inthefade
@inthefade 7 жыл бұрын
I found Tarkin so distracting that I found it hard to remember what he had said. I hope that they can touch it up for the post-theater release, because their lips don't look as if they are enunciating and their facial movements were jerky in an unusual way. Both fell into the uncanny valley for me.
@thedoctor101fez
@thedoctor101fez 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that found Tarkin better than Leia ?
@leif6473
@leif6473 7 жыл бұрын
He was way better.
@davidhanousek9874
@davidhanousek9874 7 жыл бұрын
i realised a day later that unless he is he is like Yoda 800 years old he must be dead so i checked imdb for casting.... Leia looked weird they overestimated their ability in super lighted and detailed portret. Tarkin was always in dark room thats why he looks naturally.
@DarianODirling
@DarianODirling 7 жыл бұрын
i didn't even notice tarkin was cg
@trollstian3578
@trollstian3578 7 жыл бұрын
Same. It seriously looked THAT good.
@gryphon50c
@gryphon50c 7 жыл бұрын
probably because he was more in shadow...
@copacetic9018
@copacetic9018 7 жыл бұрын
I saw Rogue One the day after Carrie died and I welled up and almost cried when I saw Princess Leia in then final scene of the movie. It was such an appropriate and serendipitous tribute. And such an AMAZING film.
@LyfaLeeZhure_DavidShawn
@LyfaLeeZhure_DavidShawn 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin's CGI was actually flawless; Leia--on the other hand--...Jar-Jar, anyone? Besides, I don't know why people are throwing such a fit about Tarkin. Hell, newbs have no clue who Tarkin even is!! While we're on the subject, "Rogue" was the best chapter of the Star Wars universe since "Empire". "Awakens" was dog s**t compared to "Rogue". ...and Kylo-Ren is a pussy-ass douche--totally ruined the movie for me.
@C0T0HA
@C0T0HA 7 жыл бұрын
Kylo sucked but not because of the actor but because of the script that made him a whiny emo. To me the worst part of TFA was Rey 'I can do everything because I just can'
@lastfirst8564
@lastfirst8564 7 жыл бұрын
C0T0HA I liked it however I don't understand why everyone wants Disney to hold their hands and explain the overarcing plot in insane detail alongside all twists and turns in the plot. Also kylo does have tons of ideas and backstorys... i dont get he hate!!!!
@ryans79mc
@ryans79mc 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin looked great. I was blown away
@ryans79mc
@ryans79mc 7 жыл бұрын
Desi J Richert Acid huh? A little extreme. My opinion of course
@Sammhm123
@Sammhm123 7 жыл бұрын
Good thing I happen to be awake at 2:00 am
@thebadassbro5921
@thebadassbro5921 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Marshall its 1:20 here
@LightlySalted26
@LightlySalted26 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Marshall 11:00 here
@JLeoni96
@JLeoni96 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Marshall its 7:24 AM here in the UK :-)
@andrewdominguez939
@andrewdominguez939 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Marshall same
@xXSpecOps507Xx
@xXSpecOps507Xx 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Marshall Same Here
@retroblasting
@retroblasting 7 жыл бұрын
The pilots weren't CGI. They were from archival footage of unused takes and lines. Gareth Edwards has said this himself.
@BushidoUK97
@BushidoUK97 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Carrie Fisher
@mrmatt2063
@mrmatt2063 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly Tarkin looked a bit too animated
@blakeharris58
@blakeharris58 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Matt seriously, it was distracting. They could have kept him as a cameo instead of a fairly integral piece of the story.
@svetlanarodriguez7429
@svetlanarodriguez7429 7 жыл бұрын
he did look animated.
@KellicTiger
@KellicTiger 7 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is for me there were a few scenes that felt OK. And others that hit to close to video game quality and the Uncanny Valley. www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/12/rogue-one-digging-up-the-dead-in-the-uncanny-valley/ IMHO I think it was the scenes where we saw him at an angle. When it was full face and a conversation it became obvious.
@Sraye
@Sraye 7 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought as well. It's like they forgot they can use holograms.
@mychonnyfan47
@mychonnyfan47 7 жыл бұрын
I had no clue they were cgi
@CoinBox170
@CoinBox170 7 жыл бұрын
Me either. Thought they were remarkable look alikes.
@nicholasnolan2086
@nicholasnolan2086 7 жыл бұрын
V-Studios same, just how did they do it?
@mychonnyfan47
@mychonnyfan47 7 жыл бұрын
I'm serious Haha
@andrewkalustian
@andrewkalustian 7 жыл бұрын
V-Studios i didn't know that U-wings were CGI either -sarcasm-
@acruze6399
@acruze6399 7 жыл бұрын
V-Studios Me either
@IAMBENNYBLANCO.
@IAMBENNYBLANCO. 7 жыл бұрын
The movie was VERY VERY good overall. The story line was consistent....very pleased. I actually liked it a bit more than the last SW (Force Awakens). The CGI was good, no complaints.
@dokjung3
@dokjung3 7 жыл бұрын
trompetayritmo As a hardcore SW fan, Rogue one was PERFECT to me. The Force Awakens?? that was shittiest SW movie ever
@ethan3246
@ethan3246 7 жыл бұрын
trompetayritmo I think the battle scenes in rogue were way better than TFA
@OMGtheykilledKenny42
@OMGtheykilledKenny42 7 жыл бұрын
Rogue One = Star Wars' Halo: Reach
@thunderwilt6140
@thunderwilt6140 7 жыл бұрын
Logan Stein exactly
@thesneakergame3327
@thesneakergame3327 7 жыл бұрын
Logan Stein I wouldn't say it's the best one...
@georgejones8540
@georgejones8540 7 жыл бұрын
I know right they were both so bad
@OMGtheykilledKenny42
@OMGtheykilledKenny42 7 жыл бұрын
I mean in the sense, that they're both direct prequels to their respective first installments in the franchises. Rogue One ends with the beginning of A New Hope, Halo: Reach ends with the beginning of Combat Evolved. Almost all of the heroes sacrifice themselves to ensure that the next events took place etc..
@Porcupethtonia
@Porcupethtonia 7 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought Tarkin looked like a wax doll who came from the nightmare realm of the uncanny valley?
@Felhek
@Felhek 7 жыл бұрын
just in the border of that valley. not entirely inside of it.
@trent_m3009
@trent_m3009 7 жыл бұрын
BDP Games It was f*cking terrible
@303sascha
@303sascha 7 жыл бұрын
No, youre nor the only one...
@Porcupethtonia
@Porcupethtonia 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
@emhullum4120
@emhullum4120 7 жыл бұрын
I thought I was watching the Polar Express.
@PickeringSamuel
@PickeringSamuel 7 жыл бұрын
I was blown away by tarkin. best CGI I've ever seen
@Coldstreamer17
@Coldstreamer17 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Carrie, may she always be remembered!!
@Nerdhaunt
@Nerdhaunt 7 жыл бұрын
and not remastered
@eddieking2976
@eddieking2976 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin was pretty darn good. Leia however, could have been better.
@Talezassian
@Talezassian 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Having said that, Tarkin was in way more scenes than Leia, who had just the one scene at the end.
@unlimitededge2689
@unlimitededge2689 7 жыл бұрын
Talezassian But still, they should have made leia look REALLY good, so that one little scene would have more... oomph to it
@Excaliburmerlin
@Excaliburmerlin 7 жыл бұрын
WTF i thought they where actual actors
@adameat3562
@adameat3562 7 жыл бұрын
Iturritxu SadBoys2002 only the picky nerds who have to bitch about something noticed lol
@Excaliburmerlin
@Excaliburmerlin 7 жыл бұрын
adameat 35 lol
@chromedog68
@chromedog68 7 жыл бұрын
There were, they're just UNDER the CG overlays. Essentially, the actors exist from the neck down.
@Excaliburmerlin
@Excaliburmerlin 7 жыл бұрын
***** i know that, but still t change that to that is pretty crazy
@michamus
@michamus 7 жыл бұрын
What's funny is these guys will say "Tarkin and Leia were so obviously CGI" and not realize they only knew because Tarkin is dead and Leia is old. They never caught the X-Wing leaders that were created using the exact same technology.
@McKayonaise
@McKayonaise 7 жыл бұрын
Thought the effects were great. Very impressive. I thought (at first) that Tarkin was simply being played by an actor similar-looking to Cushing; realised after a while that it was just convincing CGI. And the shot of Leia blew me away. The effects team did a sick job. Anyone complaining is just being a little bitch. Some things will never be enough for some people.
@McKayonaise
@McKayonaise 7 жыл бұрын
Ps. I'll admit Tarkin wasn't perfect - hence why I said he looked like a different actor - but my point is that he looked like a real human being that was there, which is pretty amazing as far as CGI goes these days.
@McKayonaise
@McKayonaise 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same for me InspHCallahan, with both Tarkin and Leia.
@Lofote
@Lofote 7 жыл бұрын
Seriously I thought both Cushing and Fisher looked extremely bad CGI, I really thought, "hey, in 2016 we saw a lot *MUCH better CGi in the last 20 years".
@SoreEyeMusic
@SoreEyeMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Worked wonders with the CGI models. Sure, Tarkin was sort of odd looking, but it worked! I actually never noticed the two fighter pilots being the ones from the old movies O.o
@KenjDragon
@KenjDragon 7 жыл бұрын
The fighter pilots werent animated. They were cut out of old and unused 1977 footage.
@SoreEyeMusic
@SoreEyeMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Ah ok :) That makes sense
@timyo6288
@timyo6288 7 жыл бұрын
surprisingly good CGI? wut?
@dalekcaan99
@dalekcaan99 7 жыл бұрын
It was great
@0rurin
@0rurin 7 жыл бұрын
The problem is that we're not comparing it to other CGI. The film is not CG contra CG, it's real actors vs. obvious CGI. If it was a full CG movie, then it would be amazing. It is not.
@smileyShiiZniTZ
@smileyShiiZniTZ 7 жыл бұрын
Sgt.Grinner i think in maybe 10 years and a lot money they will be able to achieve the impossible and get past the uncanny valley, they are creating new techniques every year that help progress CGI, and this movie is only helping that progress
@StrengthyHonor
@StrengthyHonor 7 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! The CGI was SHOCKINGLY BAD!!!!
@wysiwyg2006
@wysiwyg2006 7 жыл бұрын
exactly my opinion i thought tons of CG in the film looked dreadful more so in 3D
@06mrselfdestruct
@06mrselfdestruct 7 жыл бұрын
seeing this after Carrie Fisher past away was really eerie and sad...
@fatcat1399
@fatcat1399 7 жыл бұрын
Just saw this movie today. It's so good, but damn, that last shot just broke my heart. She's so beautiful. And part of the force now. 💜
@michael666myers
@michael666myers 7 жыл бұрын
F13at Cat we all gulped with sadness when we seen her in the film last night 😢
@SWOL
@SWOL 7 жыл бұрын
I had no ideas tarkin was cgi till right now...
@jesss3357
@jesss3357 7 жыл бұрын
TRUE SWOLDIER mind blown*
@matthewdagnan3396
@matthewdagnan3396 7 жыл бұрын
What ? Your not complaining? This cant be a post
@mysteriousplaguedoctor1744
@mysteriousplaguedoctor1744 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin's face looks like a really good cut scene from a video game.
@zachburkle9426
@zachburkle9426 7 жыл бұрын
Lol Peter Cushing is such a savage xD. Instead of wearing boots he wears slippers on set lol, most official imperial officer xD instead of very important boots, he wears slippers lol. I can't get over this xD
@Kalleesto
@Kalleesto 7 жыл бұрын
The only problem I had with young Princess Leia was that she looked pretty smug at getting the plans. She was smiling/smirking which I felt was inappropriate after we'd seen all those characters we'd just connected with, die. I wonder what Carrie thought of the reproduction? I'm sure she would have told us in no uncertain terms! I will miss her openness and wit. :(
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech 7 жыл бұрын
For the X-Wing leaders they used unused footage from A New Hope.
@samtoshner8002
@samtoshner8002 7 жыл бұрын
I thought it just looked like archive footage
@tylerrjohnson68
@tylerrjohnson68 7 жыл бұрын
Sebi's Random Tech I noticed that to. it was too cool
@Barc7
@Barc7 7 жыл бұрын
I hope they make it look better in the DVD release
@SaifAqqad
@SaifAqqad 7 жыл бұрын
Eddy Vicente bluray*
@Barc7
@Barc7 7 жыл бұрын
Saif Aqqad I meant that too
@mulleolsen
@mulleolsen 7 жыл бұрын
*VHS
@Z64sports
@Z64sports 7 жыл бұрын
laserdisc
@Gabriel_Cook
@Gabriel_Cook 7 жыл бұрын
Dyllan Torrey But it has lasers!
@dionelreyes529
@dionelreyes529 7 жыл бұрын
Really? Am I the only person who's thought that tarkin looked like a cartoon.
@Joviex
@Joviex 7 жыл бұрын
No. He looked horrible.
@PotatoesruleMC
@PotatoesruleMC 7 жыл бұрын
Dionel Reyes he was disgusting
@ChiTownMyTown
@ChiTownMyTown 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin looked amazing tf are yall talking about
@agfagaevart
@agfagaevart 7 жыл бұрын
plastic!!
@DisturbedShifty
@DisturbedShifty 7 жыл бұрын
I personally think they both still need more work. I am hoping they will continue to work on the CGI for the home release. Honestly the CGI for Downey Jr in Civil War looked much better than both Tarkin and Leia.
@henryambrose8607
@henryambrose8607 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know it was CGI in Civil War, but I completely agree: this is one of the few things that they can improve yet.
@kellenjordan1201
@kellenjordan1201 7 жыл бұрын
I said the exact same thing about CGI Downey looking way better. Tarkin looked like he belonged in a cut scene of a video game.
@TheMinerGaming321
@TheMinerGaming321 7 жыл бұрын
Because they actually had Downy for that.
@DisturbedShifty
@DisturbedShifty 7 жыл бұрын
7thGenGaming So what's the excuse for Leia? Carrie Fisher is still alive (thankfully) and the CGI for her was just as cringe worthy. She may not have her 20 year old buddy but they still could have put in motion capture booth and have her say the lines and then make her younger in post production.
@nymetswinws
@nymetswinws 7 жыл бұрын
Leia sort of looked like she was from Polar Express. It didn't look all that good.
@MegaHolyduck
@MegaHolyduck 7 жыл бұрын
ikr we (the people i went to go see it with) laughed when we saw her but ah well lmao
@Mariogalaxy608
@Mariogalaxy608 7 жыл бұрын
There is a thing called a "Budget."
@ButchDickey
@ButchDickey 7 жыл бұрын
bleh regardless of the reason, it looked ridiculous and unsettling, I laughed outloud
@irBribe
@irBribe 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice CGI on tarkin, but I could tell it on the princess.
@irBribe
@irBribe 7 жыл бұрын
L3ros I Remember in the theater thinking isn't he dead?
@LucaAnsevini
@LucaAnsevini 7 жыл бұрын
CGI on Tarkin was clearly detectable by the mouth
@kdm71291
@kdm71291 7 жыл бұрын
I just saw it tonight....I got chills at the end, for obvious reasons. And now, her mother Debbie Reynolds, too. Unbelievable is my word of the evening. I was on my way to see it when I heard it on the radio about her mother.
@justinhuang5183
@justinhuang5183 7 жыл бұрын
Gold Leader and Red Leader weren't CGI creations. They were taken from A New Hope stock footage
@lshalo3
@lshalo3 7 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest Tarkin's face was crazy distracting, barely half his lines got through to me. I appreciate the work, but the tech is not god enough for it yet it seems. Works better with quick shots like with Hopkins in Westworld or even Leia at the end.
@dimitrikvasha7021
@dimitrikvasha7021 7 жыл бұрын
Or even practical effects... They could have done a much better job with a similar looking actor and good makeup. CG touchups could even be done to improve the real actor, but doing the whole thing with CG just doesn't work atm.
@simplythebest2k
@simplythebest2k 7 жыл бұрын
Dimitri Kvasha They did just that on Ep 3 he didn't look good. SO yes Tarkin in EP 3 was not CGI, he was practical prosthetic and make up.
@briansview2886
@briansview2886 7 жыл бұрын
John christopher , no they didn't, it was an actor playing a 20 year younger tarkin. he had special makeup on too
@simplythebest2k
@simplythebest2k 7 жыл бұрын
Brians View That's what I said.... Tarkin on EP 3 was prosthetics and makeup.
@adventure9119
@adventure9119 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why people are talking about Tarkin, I walked out of that theatre amazed and thrilled about the movie as a whole( especially that last scene with Vader).
@HiredGoonage
@HiredGoonage 7 жыл бұрын
I felt the movie was good, but I was neither amazed or thrilled. The Tarkin CGI shows improvement from previous generations, but still has room for improvement. The necromancy ethics are interesting. I don't know why people wouldn't talk about Tarkin as it's a CGI milestone.
@vversusv1364
@vversusv1364 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin looked good, but not good enough imo. And since he was a major character, it was distracting for me
@konstancemakjaveli
@konstancemakjaveli 7 жыл бұрын
i really hate when people say "CGI is shit" withiut realising how much CGI is actually being used.
@eyescreamcake
@eyescreamcake 7 жыл бұрын
It's great for objects and landscapes and special effects, but don't try to pull off people's faces. It never works.
@SkullCrusher-xk5wp
@SkullCrusher-xk5wp 7 жыл бұрын
eyescreamcake unless for video games.
@eyescreamcake
@eyescreamcake 7 жыл бұрын
***** This didn't actually work though. It looked like a video game.
@kingkazma3246
@kingkazma3246 7 жыл бұрын
The CGI Tarkin and Leia were 95% good, they outdid themselves and this is how a Star Wars movie should be handled, way better than TFA. Kinda tired of girl leads but this one was more believable and human than Rei, she felt like part of the team not the OP Mary Sue goddess mess that was Rei. All the characters had purpose on this movie! It felt so good to see Tarkin and young Leia again, and Vader stole the show at the end!
@kingkazma3246
@kingkazma3246 7 жыл бұрын
***** Rey huh, that means king in Spanish...
@yoyo2598
@yoyo2598 7 жыл бұрын
I really liked for some reason that there was no happy ending. People are complaining that all the characters died but it was unpredictable which i loved. I thought that it was going to be another cheesy love story between Jin and the captain but then Boom get death star'd. I mean it was a victory for the rebels since they got the plans but just barely with a huge loss of life
@PlanetAMV
@PlanetAMV 7 жыл бұрын
it was a victory for the rebellion, but a loss for the viewers.
@SecretAgentMan00
@SecretAgentMan00 7 жыл бұрын
CGI Tarkin was more believable than CGI Leia.
@MasterTeep
@MasterTeep 7 жыл бұрын
Charles Dance aka Tywin Lannister for Tarkin in a Darth Vader standalone blockbuster. Imagine Vader tracking down ship theives like in the recent Tarkin book.
@kornaxon3522
@kornaxon3522 7 жыл бұрын
Grand idea!
@Criticalbandits16
@Criticalbandits16 7 жыл бұрын
CarsandGuitars09 they could just cgi him again
@Chuckle_Balls
@Chuckle_Balls 7 жыл бұрын
Some of Tarkin's expressions reminded me of Tywin.
@Bizzmillah
@Bizzmillah 7 жыл бұрын
The other cgi I characters looked great but I could tell Tarkin. He looked like early PS3 graphics.
@KylanHurt
@KylanHurt 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was close to perfect but something about his movement was slightly off. Still, pretty impressive.
@theinvisibleman2194
@theinvisibleman2194 7 жыл бұрын
They need to work on putting more "play" in the cheeks and lips, the facial movements are still too tight and precise.
@GrnXnham
@GrnXnham 7 жыл бұрын
Faces are something that CGI still hasn't perfected.They are getting closer but they still aren't quite there, yet.
@gsmith3638
@gsmith3638 7 жыл бұрын
Hey at least he didn't look like Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy. I thought they did a great job, it fooled me at first..
@CausticRKS
@CausticRKS 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like the shaders they used on his face were too much. Too glossy. And there just wasn't enough skin detail and imperfections on his face.
@SoA-Horseman
@SoA-Horseman 7 жыл бұрын
The recreation of Leia was cool, but it was painfully obvious.
@SoA-Horseman
@SoA-Horseman 7 жыл бұрын
connie rahim yes very sad. Just heard the news
@yoyoyoc3po
@yoyoyoc3po 7 жыл бұрын
〈SoA〉Horseman Well yes, even it was flawless CGI, you'd probably manage to figure that it wasn't real any way for obvious reasons.
@MattVibes
@MattVibes 7 жыл бұрын
I thought they used the real actors with A LOT, A LOT of makeup to make them look young. Didn't realise he was dead
@mounorman
@mounorman 7 жыл бұрын
and dead for 22 years .....consider that in new hope( 1977 )he was already old at that point .
@chubbyninja842
@chubbyninja842 7 жыл бұрын
CG Tarkin wasn't as good as he needed to be for closeup shots. It just wasn't quite lifelike enough. It was in the uncanny valley, not quite back to true human. This would have been less noticeable if they had just shot him from a little farther away. There really was no need for a closeup.
@lastfirst8564
@lastfirst8564 7 жыл бұрын
ZombieTex Yeah, have that reflection be one of the only face shots and whenever he walks we only glimpse his face as instead we see his chest and rankplate walk past the camera and only see him in the background. For example when speaking to Krennic he talks first looking to the death star, walks past the camera continuing and turns at the entrance to the corridor to finish then walk off to leave krennic staring in dismay at his lifes work...
@BuzzKirill3D
@BuzzKirill3D 7 жыл бұрын
***** Well I'm sure they did A LOT of tweaking, it's still not 100% realistic but the point is it's getting there.
@BuzzKirill3D
@BuzzKirill3D 7 жыл бұрын
***** It's actually in my favorites. It's amazing, especially considering one person made it.
@thothheartmaat2833
@thothheartmaat2833 7 жыл бұрын
the tarkin CGI was amazing.. how could it have been better? I really need to know this..
@ThinkingAtheos
@ThinkingAtheos 7 жыл бұрын
If they had introduced CGI Tarkin a little more subtle (not clearly visible, backlit etc.) I would've digged it. But in most shots he was too close to the camera, perfectly lit, and sometimes even in the same shot with a real actor, and it just felt off. Enjoyed the movie though. Better than a certain Episode that was released recently...
@WeaselLevelDesign
@WeaselLevelDesign 7 жыл бұрын
And his face was twitching/blinking way too much. Tarkin, while displaying discontent, never really jiggled his mouth/cheeks/eyelids around that much. Leia I didn't even notice though, shit was magic.
@JimD4473
@JimD4473 7 жыл бұрын
I agree a bit with Tarkin, although I still think what they pulled off was impressive. I thought Leia looked like she was acorns walnuts in her cheek for winter, though.
@adrianestevez8843
@adrianestevez8843 7 жыл бұрын
Tarkin and Leia looks like Battlefront graphics
@pinguinamsuedpol2953
@pinguinamsuedpol2953 7 жыл бұрын
yes... where are the wrinkles... it really looks bad...
@Sandalo27
@Sandalo27 7 жыл бұрын
tarkin is perfect and extremely complex to do
@rodster6campingprepper
@rodster6campingprepper 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect? if it was perfect it would have looked real. As it was it looked about 85% real.
@dragonsbreath223
@dragonsbreath223 7 жыл бұрын
Leia, Red Leader, and Gold Leader were perfect CGIs. I actually didn't even realize Red Leader and Gold Leader were until I watched this video; I just thought "oh hey, that's them from the original trilogy". Tarkin tho, looked pretty bad. I mean, it's probably the best CGI human so far, but it still looked really off and it did kind of ruin his scenes for me. His wide angle shots were barely noticeable, but in the close ups, it was very obvious. Especially his eyes and mouth, and the way he moved his head just looked very non human.
@MysteriousMrL
@MysteriousMrL 7 жыл бұрын
Red Leader and Gold Leader weren't CG. They were from unused footage from the original Star Wars that Gareth Edwards found at Skywalker Ranch.
@ozzyp97
@ozzyp97 7 жыл бұрын
Credit where credit is due, using a cgi human for as long and as close to the camera as they did with Tarkin takes confidence, astounding amounts of work and almost certainly more money than hiring any actor would. It may not be perfect, but it was pretty impressive in its own right.
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