"Lock S-Foils in attack position" -Rebel squadron leader "Rotate windows to attack position" -Imperial squadron leader

I've altered the windows. Pray I don't alter them further.

Clearly the pilots of Tie/LNs are sitting on a slanted chair in the movies! Haha

when you're too embarrassed to admit your mistake so you commit to it for 40 years.

TIE Fighters now fire torpedoes and have assault shields Henry: *WINDOWS!*

While it's a continuity mistake in ANH, it wasn't just an accident: The miniatures with the point-aligned windows were designed and built first, and the cockpit set was built to match. When filming with it though, they found that the central strut was too distracting / got in the way of the camera, and so they rotated the window. [according "Creating the Worlds of Star Wars: 365 Days" by John Knoll]

The developers: no one will notice it EC Henry: this is where the fun begins!

I wasn't aware of this discontinuity...now I won't be able to think of anything else during a space battle.

The window's oriented wrong I feel your pane

video nutshell: basically EC hentry talking about windows for 3 minutes straight

"I know it's just a game... but it's a star wars game" Me at the christmas party standing on the kitchen counter clutching my copy of lego star wars the comete saga

"some engineer's been fiddling with my windows again" -an imperial ace pilot, probably.

I actually never noticed. But now that i see it, i try to make up a little bit of head canon: There probably were several different factories for Ties, maybe even dispersed troughout the galaxy, so different factories could have different window orientations. This is similar to Warhammer, where the same Vehicle can look a bit different, depending on its building Forgeworld (factory planet). This explains the difference between games/shows/films. The difference between inside and out, e.g. in Episode 4, could be explained just like mentioned in the Video.

EC Henry: *exists* Minor detail: why do I hear boss music?

Maybe TIE cockpits viewport can rotate so that if a strut is obscuring the pilots vision they can alter the angle. It's a simple mechanism which could aid with docking or long range tracking.

Ngl I like the TIE in this cockpit orientation, if push comes to shove we can chalk it up to the standards that TIE fighters have been modified to under Admiral Sloan (as mentioned in this game). If TIE now have mechanisms for self preservation and have proton torpedos in a post endor timeline, they can have an altered viewport that only applies to the TIE/LN and only that TIE variant.

"...The interior of the Millennium Falcon is significantly larger than the exterior..." The Doctor: "Define 'significantly'".

Window: accidentally off by 22.5 degrees EC-Henry: OUTRAGEOUS!!! INCONCEIVABLE!!

I can’t believe I didn’t notice that

That’s it. I can’t possibly bring myself to buy this forever tarnished game now.

Never truly noticed If I were to blame anyone I blame poor manufacturing their tie fighter factories all over the Galaxy so they do it one way while another does it another way But I do remember adjusting a tie fighter window I my action fleet toy From galoob

I put forward this phenomenon be called Henry's Basilisk - for once it is learnt and seen, it cannot be unlearned and unseen.

I would really like a video about Millenium Falcon.

I'm a simple Star Wars fan when it came to ships or any other vehicles. (No matter if it's legends or cannon) I see an EC Henry video for Star Wars: I click.

2:59 "However, spatial continuity MIGHT just work differently in a galaxy far far away" I don't which I like better : Henry giving ultra-in depth and all encompassing theories to explain small incoherence in Star Wars, or Henry casually giving the "space magic" bullshit explanation.

Perhaps they were trying to fix the goof in a way which made sense? Personally, my head canon has always been that the window can be rotated by the pilot as needed.

Huh never noticed this. Crazy and cool that they've purposefully kept this error all these years. I thought you were going to talk about the rear window in the Tie fighter. Interestingly also something we've only ever seen in rebels.

You know what's interesting is that the TIE Fighter game actually opted for the vertical lines.

Like Rogue One and Rebels it's just one of those visual things that happens. Theres no in universe explanation.

I think the reason they had to make a choice is because the fighters have full VR cockpits, which means that they need to runder a full cockpit and fighter instead of just making a HUD that could be rendered onto the screen. As for in universe, TIE pilots are known to modify their own fighters, so many TIE/LN could have had adjustments like the window, while newer Interceptors were not modified as much.

Great video, the fact that you jump into the topic from the beginning is worth my subscribe !

Good catch! I’d noticed this back when they released the first vids of Squadrons, because I was at the time creating my own game ready model of the TIE Fighter.

hey, i really enjoy your videos and wish you all the best!

"Oh my god, what a superficial topic to get hung up on. Who even notices these things?" He commented after being riveted and intrigued for the whole 3 minute and 40 second video 😃

Thanks for the awesome video man, always a pleasure to watch!

What's more interesting on all of this is that the original "Tie Fighter" videogame to which squadrons plays homage, uses the other cockpit configuration for the Tie Fighter interior.

The Falcon had a simular issue in A New Hope, check it out.

Maybe they did it so that so you have both versions while at the same time each ship's cockpit remains consistent with it's exterior. Also makes the TIE Fighter and Interceptor cockpits different from each other. Also I have to say I prefer the edge aligned version. In the point aligned cockpit the frame blocks side to side field of view slightly.

In one of their dev interviews they actually talk about how they modified the interiors and exteriors in several ships. They wanted to approach as if they were actually building working ships and made decisions to make changes that would make sense to actually build while trying to keep the "feel" of the old designs. All in all, I think they did great.

This is why i love your stuff. You spot so much detail.

alternate title: "Sci-Fi fan complains that a spaceship has a crooked window"

Oh god, that rebels ISD...

Great catch! I've been a fan for a very long time, and I have never noticed this before.

I would like EC Henry to run down every known continuity issue similar to this. I absolutely love these.

As a programmer I can say that changing the window rotation depending on where you look from would be hard to implement smoothly, and if it was possible it would lower the performance. To do it easily the player1 (you) would have a different camera than the other players which would again be a lot of work to implement for the networking, then the different cameras would render different windows.

Difference this makes to my gameplay: zero, I'm terrible either way

Never would’ve noticed this, great video!

I'm REALLY impressed by your knowledges !

I always guessed the reason for this was that the exterior look had been locked in earlier in the film making process, but when they did the cockpit interior shots, they realised there was a ruddy great vertical bar blocking the pilots (and audiences) view so they just rotated it to have a less obstructed view for shots of them firing on the falcon etc

It's also interesting because in the story intro with Vader it's the "correct" way in the cutscene.

legend says that if EC Henry stares at a TIE Fighter long enough, he will see that one dirt-partical inside the cockpit and makes a video about it

Congrats, this is the most pedantic video I've watched all week! Liked.

Just chalk it up to TIE windows being able to rotate those 28 degrees.

While we on Squadrons, Henry, that do you think about "the project"?

Props to you. Just when I thought I knew it all when it comes to Star Wars... you pull this one out of your hat! Fascinating!

I would have never known. Thanks for making the video. Really interesting.

After receiving feedback from pilots after the Battle of Endor, Imperial engineers fixed the window orientation. Had this been done sooner, the Empire would have won!

What if it’s kind like one of those windows that you can only see through one side

I've never noticed that detail, EC is the only one who can spot that kind of things

Now I can't just ignore it. Every time I see a Tie Fighter I will see it!! (Good video btw, I love your channel)

EC Henry: hyperspace ramming doesn't break lore also EC Henry: tHe aLigNmEnT oF winDoWs bReAks lOre

Yes yes, but when piloting (even more in VR of course) it is better to not have the frame at the exacts horizontally and vertically sight. I assume...

The windows being oriented wrong almost feels like a rite of passage in the context you put it in, EC Henry. That's quite interresting

In all the years I never noticed this, now I can’t un-notice this. Thanks a lot.

The thing that bugs me the most about EA TIE fighters is that their lasers sound wrong. There's little to no echo after you stop firing.

Seriously are people going to complain about this window over look

Nice video as always

I would have never noticed that, but now I will never unsee this

This is the way I see it: Motive: Goes through the trouble of correcting a long running visual discontinuity in the Star Wars films for Star Wars: Squadrons. Star Wars fans: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE...

The ties shouldn’t be landed right on the hanger floor. They usually should be on racks in Star destroyers.

Just wanted to add In the rebels short “Property of Ezra Bridger” you can see the cockpit from the pilots view when he tries to shoot Ezra and it’s actually lined up vertically as shown from the outside. Just a little tidbit of info haha

The inside of the Tie interceptor cockpit actually meets the exterior. I believe that the models are the same inside and out as you can see the characters inside their cockpits from another fighter.

EC Henry has better eyesight than God himself.

So, the TIEs have a tradition of inconsistency. That's a nice attention to detail to make the windows in a specific way even though they logicaly shouldn't be like that. I hope they never change that. Since you mentioned the Imperial Star Destroyers from Rebels, does anyone remember how awful they made them in this God forsaken show? Besides looking ridiculous with the enlarged tower and fucked up proportions they even gave them wrong turrets. The port and starboard turrets were the octuple turrets from Imperial-IIs, not the double ones of the Imperial-Is. I hoenstly think Filoni was taking the piss with Rebels...

I love that they changed the exterior to be the same as the interior view. I always wanted to see what it would look like!

Very interesting indeed. It shows the difference in using sets for interiors and models for exteriors vs in games and CGI TV shows where the interiors and exteriors can be part of the same 3D model.

Regbels did have some design flaws that I really hated (thin lightsabers and long neck stardesrtroyers)

You're critiquing the TIE fighters of the first order. EVERYTHING regarding the first order is wrong.

EC Henry, have you even thought about doing a series that involves analysing existing designs, now I don't mean specifications cause those numbers are worthless, but just potential inspirations behind the design, your likes and dislikes, what can be improved etc etc. would love to hear more of your thoughts!

Attention to small details you have is very impressive EC. I bet most people never realised this, I didn't until now.

EC Henry: W i n d o w s Me: Tell me more.

The thing is when you look carefully in the film this canopy orientation already exist in the movie since episode IV, I noticed it when i was building Vader TIE X1 from Revell, when you have shot from interior you the square orientation and when it's from the exterior, it's the cross orientation. And the game take place in a post Endor Era so some modification can be added 😁

I never noticed this but now that youve shown me i cant unsee it and i am tilted...like the window

Great video. Is there a video of yours of the wrong-interior-thing you mentioned? I did a quick search on you KZfaq, but couldn‘t find any. Would love to see that video.

So fast forward to today, did they ever address this with a patch or anything?

Thanks now I can never unsee this.

I literally never would have noticed this. Thanks

In-setting, it could be that different factories building TIEs orient the windows differently, or that there are submodels of the TIE/ln that the changed window orientations were a sign of.

This is the kind of Star Wars minutia I live for. I hit 'subscribe' before the first twenty seconds of the video was done. I don't own Squadrons, but the second in the vid when they showed the TIE/LN in this video I was like NO NO NO! Viewport is all wrong! And then the narrator goes on to explain how the viewport is wrong. I think I'm gonna love this channel.

Hey Henry, thanks for this vid. Now I'll never unsee this when I go to watch a Star Wars movie or play a Star Wars game 😂😂

Thanks now i cant unsee this

i never realized that now i can't get it out my head

Imagine this same video but voiced by C-3PO 😂 Let’s appreciate EC Henry’s soothing voice

Bruh, your eyes must rival a hawk’s if you noticed that! Mad respect!

I never noticed that error! Interesting! I do have to side with matching the window, even if this has been a continuous "error." However, I am curious why they did edge up and not line up, like the rest (as you pointed out).

I thought, this video would be about some change to how TIE Fighters work or that they maybe can take more hits, but i did not expect THIS!

Hey EC! You should do some lore building for republic ships! I’d love to see your take on rebel alliance venators and arc170s or some unknown separatist ships.

Thanks for that, now I cant unsee this and it will haunt me for the rest of my star wars loving life XD

The interceptor cockpit is in the RotJ Death Star Tunnel Scene

That hilarious, thank you for helping me realize that.