Did you check out the deleted scene? Its not much but it adds a bit.

Damian Saucedo yeah i did. It was good. For an extra 5 mins they could’ve left it in but that was probably a studio descion to cut it out.

We also finally get see Imperial troops, that aren't some sort of Stormtrooper, in action.

Honestly it was amazing

@@damiansaucedo9951 Yeah

Haha ayy

I even kept the video at normal speed because it was so good.

Kyle Cobb For real. It really makes me wonder why History classes when I was in school only mentioned trenches in World War I as if that was the first time they were ever used

Same

@Cribbs Trench warfare fell off in terms of the amount of use because the development of the tank at the end of the war ended the constant stalemate that it caused throughout it.

Stormtroopers were the average soldier...

@@richardnelson1013 just like ze STURMTRUPPEN were elite

obiskystar anikin did you watch any original Star Wars trilogy movie? This is simply untrue

@@Ghidorah96 Where do we see Stormtroopers in the original trilogy? Capture of the Tantive IV, and subsequent search for survivors: a high priority mission, that will make or break the Death Star project and a good shot at capturing rebel leader Princess Leia. the best troops available must be sent Guarding the interior halls of the Death Star: The Death Star project has been ongoing for decades, with countless people, credits, and resources sunk into its completion. a successful infiltration of the Death Star would result in a devastating loss for the Empire. STRATEGIC VALUE: *ABSOLUTE* The Battle of Hoth: We've has been searching for the rebel home base for 3 years since a complete moral and strategic defeat at Yavin. While the probe droid appears to have been discovered, the data it had collected shows that the rebellion was still settled in. If we can attack before the base is evacuated, they can potentially capture most of the rebel leaders, and learn the details of hundreds of rebel cells across the galaxy. This civil war could be brought to an end years quicker. Ambush in Cloud City: This is an odd mission to say the least. Why Lord Vader is choosing to risk the capture of Princess Leia for some Skywalker kid I'll never know, but rumor has it that kid is the one who blew up the Death Star. Whatever the reason, I shall serve the Empire without question. I would not ask Lord Vader why we are devoting so many resources to this kid, the last person to ask was immediately executed. Battle of Endor: This trap is risky, but if the Emperor's plan succeeds, we might destroy the entire rebel fleet. Our best shot at that is keeping this generator up and running. This blasted rebellion has gone on for too long. It is time to end it

Actually Stormtroopers, snowtroopers and mudtroopers were the comoman trooper . All the other troopers were elite troopers

This is why "i have the high ground" anakin attack from deepest depths 😂😂😂

Art of war.

"we capture the Command post.."

Semantics. The difference between "trench warfare" and "using trenches" simply comes down to whether or not a Belligerent is able to force movement.

@@digitalis2977 not exactly, modern day wars still employ the use of trenches for defensive purposes but modern warfare rarely has a clear “front line”, also trench warfare is more than the use of trenches it is also the tactics employed around them, such as artillery barrages followed by charges, whereas modern day does not see such use of trenches nor charges upon those, should such positions exist, of the enemy. By your logic all warfare is trench warfare because all war for centuries has seen use of trenches, obviously this is not the case, trenches are used today for many reasons; anti vehicle ( making certain ditches that will immobilise vehicles) and cover being the main uses, because ground, the earth, is very good at stopping bullets and shrapnel

The Iraqis used trench warfare in 93. Didn't go well for them

@@dantewiggins5119 you realise that both sides used trench warfare in the Iraq war right? That’s like saying guns are shit because the nazis used guns and they lost, its a very stupid point

Grim Knight you didn’t have any replies so I thought I’d change that

@@1ksubscriberswithnovideos736 Thanks.

You got it bud

i hate southern americans but whatever and this isnt educating

You're correct, although at the Somme a large part of the shells were Shrapnel as it was thought they could cut the wire. The bomb-proof bunkers the Germans had constructed far exceeded what the British calculations confirmed: being in them durring bombardment was hellish, but the majority survived, and so did their machine-guns. The use of trenches in Stalingrad is another great example of the resilience of troops against artillery.

@@samrussell4065 Good points overall. However in Stalingrad you must also remember the Russians employed a "hugging" tactic to keep German artillery from shelling their own men. Still, you aren't wrong about the shrapnel shells the British used.

@@angryloyer_2821 That's the thing about trenches: people think they're purely defensive, but they can be offensive as well, protecting your troops at the same time as compromising the enemy. Viet Minh tactics in Vietnam were similar: if the enemy's stength is in artillery and support arms then negate it by getting as close as possible to the enemy lines.

Daniel Seames they say it would be poinless in Star Wars because back in ww1 shells were rarely accurate and only sometimes got a direct hit but in Star Wars the technology is much better then shoot a explosive in the air and hope it drops on their heads most energy in starwars a direct so if a side new exactly where a trench is they could decimate it

@@Antisocialexe accuracy is still a thing trenches break up line of sight and explosions for example a fox hole will still protect a man better from a near miss than just laying down and if all that foxhole takes is a piece of metal and elbow grease then you'd better believe it will be used.

I’d watch it

ThatHalfLatino that and lando himself were the ONLY good parts of Solo.

It wont happen because disney doesnt want to give us what we actually want

There were actually deleted scenes that extended that battle by several more minutes.

That part of the movie was hilariously scary.

Same issue in WW1. I feel bad for the men ordered by fools to charge machine gun positions in open battle, they never stood a chance.

I thought it was the south that still used them because they were cheaper to buy than the new shit the union was using

The South tried to streamline their supply situation in the early war, but by mid-late war, everything was used by them.

@@tothethreshold.9965 The officers seemed foolsih right now because you know what happened. The officers and generals just did what their predecesors taught them.

Nonsense.The UK was one of the first nations offered the maxim gun, we refused it due to the old guard thinking it would serve no purpose and many officers regarding the weapon as an improper form of warfare. by the time of WW1 machine guns had been around for 30 years, these were recently developed weapons but by no means new. Even after it was repeatedly shown to be devastating they continued to use the same tactics for most of that war. It was nothing less than sheer arrogance of the generally upper class officers which cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of infantry including my great uncle..

Damit steve

The emperor protects!

I tough that Death Korps of Krieg was mecaniced infantry?

@@arttuhonkasalo427 The Armageddon Steel Legion is mech inf, Krieg are siege experts.

@@HandleMyBallsKZfaq Which is ironic since According to Astra Militarium doctrine, no Imperial Guard regiment should be allowed to be Mech infantry.

FIX BAYONETS!

No you just weren't paying attention, but he does tie it together with memorable visuals.

Yes it’s really sad

Feel lucky. My eighth grade history teacher had the books put away to teach evolution instead of world history.

Actually based on my eight grade history class I was able to, without a source in front of me, correct some of his facts. I assume you just didn't care nor listen to your teacher, as someone mentioned earlier.

Man school is a dos u learn nothing i learned more in work experience then school

Starship Troopers used mobile warfare and raiding tactics not trench warfare.

In other words, trench warfare is used in star wars and modern day military doctrine because it works. Granted, like most strategies, it depends on the situation, but it works

Nobody uses Trench Warfare anymore, this video confuses digging in and entrenchment for the entire way warfare is conducted. War today is all about combined arms and movement.

@@comradecommissar1945 you are only half right. Nobody uses trench warfare offensively anymore. Trenches have always been relevant in defensive roles since they provide cover for your troops.

@Sam Sadowitz That's what I'm saying, they are used defensively but because of armored vehicles your never going to get that static World War 1 kind of deal with elaborate trench works and large infantry charges.

How many storm troopers do you think it would take to kill a brotherhood of steel patrol

True

@@sadturtle540 Depends on stormtroopers of the new order or empire, empire ones I think 500 or so, new order 50? I mean the Power armoured brotherhood units can just stand there and take 30 to 40 hits head on in their walking tanks before it starts becoming a real problem and also on average have much better weaponry.

What up big al you did again you are the best starwars chanel. Wish you would do stuff on real world combant acceint or modren.

Wouter Kessel what are you talking about fool ive seen 5 synths murder a BOS knight and synths are basically life sized unfinished action figures with less phrases

@Willy Billy Good luck with that. Tanks are commonly accompanied by infantry. They wouldnt drive over trenches on their own unless they are retarded.

A reason why a defensive line isn't solely constructed of trenches, they usually have supporting anti tank guns and artilleries and several machine gun emplacements and if you are a fan of multiple layers of defense lines

@@fulcrum2951 You can also like up tanks behind a trench and can have air support cover them above.

Because they've never been in a war. Some people thinks war as shooting plastic ducks with an air rifle in a fun fair.

People tend to forget, when in combat any soldiers regardless of protection they are equipped with would prefer at least some form of cover rather than absolutely zero cover

Not that their 'tanks' were very good at their job.

Allen (or is it Alan?) mentions in the video "Everything Wrong With the Battle of Geonosis" that the GAR had air superiority at Geonosis. I don't think that it takes a formally educated military genius to realize that with air superiority against a fleeing enemy (the droid ships were trying to leave), the GAR had no rush to achieve victory. I may not be a trained tactician or strategist, but I dare say that if I were in command of an attacking force in a similar situation, I would deploy anti-air units to fire on the leaving ships and artillery to concentrate fire on the enemy's defending ground forces; then, I'd entrench my own infantry around the artillery/AA positions with armored support and wait for the enemy's forces to either deplete or surrender. (Not to mention that aside from this, I would deploy my superior air force to attack fleeing enemy ships as well, and provide air-to-ground support for the infantry wherever needed). If I really needed to advance or make a human wave assault in an open area with no cover, I'd at least use a smoke screen, or use available special forces to make covert maneuvers. The Jedi just brainlessly launched a human wave assault because they're used to melee combat-- up close and personal. In the film, the wave assault isn't portrayed as starting until the Jedi take command-- the clones just take defensive positions at the staging area until they're ordered into the wave assault. There was no need to charge the droids. It's just bad tactics (and I get the feeling that Lucas intended this to be the implication)

You dig towards the enemy.

As Tom above me just mentioned, you dig towards the enemy, as was outright mentioned in the video.

Tiago deCastro Yoda was the commander at the first battle of Geonosis and since he really hadn’t seen the clones in action he had them charge so the Jedi can get close. And they did have anti-air. They took down one of those smaller Death Star things. That’s part of the reason Yoda was kept away from large scale battles. He’s not necessarily bad but more aggressive.

"NANOMACHINES, SON!"

Yea haha I thought that would be a bit confusing

Star wars did happen a long time ago

@@TribuneAquila true

Hey, could you please do a video on the Evo troopers and why they were used?

I saw it okay

It looks good to me

@Gsdlp/Alex you bastards lmao

@@TaisharEnder cool thanks

Ikr? It's not like Mel Gibson is known for making grotesquely inaccurate historical movies or anything!

The way you wrote that makes it seem that you think it is historically accurate btw

@@beardedbjorn5520 no..?

@@MrBigCookieCrumble yes. "Who would think that the Patriot was extremely inaccurate?" makes him look like he thinks its accurate

@@beardedbjorn5520 sarcasm, sarcasm my dude.

Yea my first thought was why do you have dumb bombs that seem to work with gravity. But apparently they are magnetic. Still completely unnecessary for them to get that close to launch

ever thought they where meant for bombing ground targets and forced in to a role they where not built for

@@Andrewza1 Then why bother with a pathetic bomber, have a corvette which can be overall better at doing the same job just outfitted to bomb from orbit, or heck even just use those turbolasers to OB an area, a lot less risky than having to set up for a bombing run.

@@Andrewza1 And yet they had a bunker buster corvette in the fleet that could have easily destroyed the dreadnought and not been threatened by the TIE's but nope, needed to save that so that they could just let it get destroyed later in the film.

Andrew Coetzee which makes sense since the resistance almost no resources. Those things are far from the worst plot hole in the last jedi

You left out that it was General Meade, not Burnside, that swapped out the troops last minute for political points and deserved the bulk of the blame, and that Congress's war committee agreed following the war. Burnside *was* disgraced, but eventually cleared.

@@chad_bro_chill To be fair, Meade was concerned about the possibility that Ferrero's division of black troops would be slaughtered in the vanguard, thereby giving the impression that they had been used as cannon fodder. Though that argument is largely put paid to by the fact that they were slaughtered when they were committed to support the initial failed assault on the Crater.

Also faith in the emperor.

FOAR DE EMPRAH!!!

The maginot line

@@8maduce502 worked fine

nox5555 not really

thanks for watching!

*Is there actually a Stalingrad in Star Wars?

Ryloth siege was kinda of one. From Jedi POV

@@MundoEcchi i disagree I mean a real city Stalingrad

The closest thing I could think of is the battle of Jabiim.

*there

The Star Wars universe is obsessed with direct-fire, That's why the Y-Wing was replaced with a tugboat full of bombs, and running in first gear all day. To teach people that once again, it is direct fire, or nothing.

You should check out the video where I give relationship advice using Star Wars and the Jedi code

@@GenerationTech is there anything you can't use starwars to explain?

Star Wars it surrounds us

@@GenerationTech true

On Hoth they also had shields so tough that bombardment would do nothing

Becouse canon Thrawn is empty shell of what he once was (in old EU)

The Thrawn books have him being pretty cool.

maybe ship would use all its munition before shild energy is down

@Star-Forger Jynn Ah, yes. That part slipped my mind entirely. Sorry.

Trenches still play a role mostly suited for defensive operations. Whilst tanks can bypass the trenches but if the infantry fails to catch up to protect the tanks, those tanks are screwed

Trenches are a very good way of fighting with bad soldiers. combined arms were not invented in WW2, they were invented in the 1620s and first used in the 1630s. the problem with combined arms is that you need well trained and motivated soldiers and officers.

Better to have at least some form of cover rather than none

Trenches are still used, but not in the same way. They tend to be 2-4 man structures used in defence, and are primarily used for protection from artillery or air strike. Getting below ground is still the most effective protection from explosives and frag unless you have a direct hit. Many of the Cold War strategies were based around lines of positional defence using trenches.

Respect to you

RIP Hevy

Exactly, i mean the target for the initial imperial ground assault WAS the shield generators afterall.

and from Vader's reaction it seems the He wanted to jump in very close and hit ground targets with heavy firepower as soon as they could, to avoid giving them time to bring up shields or power up Heavy Ground batteries.

@@wbnc66 one of his officers was an idiot that ruined the plan

considering how many troopers that idiot of an officer got killed and how many rebels had the chance to escape because of him...yeah I can see why he got force choked.

Actually, at least in Legends, the AT-AT was considered a joke vehicle that the Empire only used because it had a hardon for shows of force.

@Thomas Hoffman he's on the fanboy wagon.. ;)

@Neon Dawn actually no, it just didn't feel like star wars to me, I didn't get that vibe from it that I did get from empire and ROTS

@Neon Dawn I assume I'm not allowed to have my own opinion on this then, if you liked the film, I have no problems with that, but I didn't, that's just my personal opinion on it.

@Neon Dawn you seemed to be thinking that I was just disliking it because the majority didn't like it, and that I was just jumping on the band wagon

Idiot The train scene the Kessel run are great

#humanityfirst

🐬

And there are secretly Gungan agents set buy Darth Binks

I like dolphins /:

Christopher Guilkey or xenos

Poison gas.

Daniel Hennessy gas masks?

@@officerchad1213 good point...however, I have not really seen many gas masks in star wars.

During ww1, when poison gas was first introduced the first gas mask was a cloth that had been moistened and held over the nose and mouth

stockart whiteman we are talking about real life

Missiles in space is more deadly than in atmosphere, yet in multiple fictions they function exactly the same regardless

You still need boots on the ground to successfully occupy land. Long range weapons are nice, but you will still need close quarter engagements

@@Wasthere73 depends entirely on the objective, if the rebel alliance just wanted to say, cripple the entire empire's military ship production, you wouldn't need boots on the ground for that, a really large artillery cannon could reduce the Kuat yards to dust. The rebel alliance was more or less like a terror organisation, the goal was to make the fight untenable for the empire to pursue, not to "occupy land" The rebel alliance was way too small to really occupy land but they were big enough to have hideouts. However, if the empire found a hideout they would mostly disappear if they had the chance to do so. The only reason they remained fighting was because they didn't have the chance to run away or they had something that they really needed to defend for a while. Still in general they do need boots on the ground, but it wouldn't take a genius to just buy a few weapons and old pieces of armor on the black markets, you wouldn't really need to invest too much for quality gear, remember a massive galactic war had just ended, and if there is one thing there was a lot of it was military surplus, and serious quality gear at that. Both from both sides of the war, but also from the various planetary militias that weren't really directly involved but whom decided to not be entirely defenseless during the war in which they all most likely vastly increased the sizes of their garrisons only to later having to downsize as the stormtroopers took over garrison duties almost everywhere. They could probably outfit their troops pretty well if they didn't get every person a matching armor and weapon, as well as trying to keep a mostly homogeneous fleet. There was a firesale on seperatist ships on the black markets after all, but they needed the brand new mon-calamari cruisers which were better, but they could've probably gotten a two for one deal on providences and donuts (lucrehulks), at least they got some of the filler ships right from the planetary militias downsizing. To be honest, with the way the rebel alliance was spending its income whatever it is and wherever they got it, it is seriously no wonder that they were always loosing everywhere, and those few victories they gained was just a precursor for another setback.

@@blackfang101 Yes depends on the objective, but to ensure control over a territory, you need an occupational force to properly stomp out resistance.

Thanks Troy appreciate the kind words

Cost

@@jasonskeans3327 Cheaper than losing troopers that you raised from childhood (kidnapped) and have spent 10 plus years indoctrinating. Also it greatly increases combat effectiveness and intimidation if the vast majority of shots just bounces off them.

Mandalorian iron is'nt cheap.

Phasma’s armor was scavenged from the remains of Palpatine’s yacht - there’s only so much of it

Shuttershield yeeeet

And bunkers

shut up you two, i meant when it was really obvious to use orbital bombardment. I acknowledge you cant use it every time i just get mad when they should use it

@Nacho I know right

Idf didnt work in wwi

To miss an easy shoot on the protagonists

First ;)

It's a simple spell but quite unbreakable.

lazy or crazy? Why not both.

The least they could do is be a bit creative about it. Dogfights between space fighters are one thing because at least they're cool even if they make no sense logically, but those bombers... just.. why? Such an obvious replica of B-17s except they somehow move even slower and with absolutely no defenses.. if you want to have WW2-esque combat at least try and make an effort..

Star wars has been doing so even before disney

Yeah, technical advisors are needed so that they can make the films more realistic so we can then complain about them being too different.

perhaps the bombers in TLJ were not in fact "bombers". perhaps they were retrofitted from another purpose. maybe they were a delivery vehicle for active volcano suppression.'ala jj's star trek 2', essentially a volcano fire truck to deliver a "freezing device".Remember the Resistance is in the same financial boat as was the Rebellion.

I'm assuming the Empire isn't on a planet of mud for no reason, there must be some kind of political or economic reason for controlling the planet and not just blasting it into smithereens. Also artillery and armored vehicles were supposed to make trench warfare obsolete but the Eastern Front of WW2 says otherwise.

I would like to make two notes. First: The trench lines are their to protect the empire's mining operations. That is also why the cave people of Mimban is on the surface. The locals wanna stop the empire destroying the planet even further. Second: How on any earth are you gonna hit anyone with naval artillery, if CAN'T see them. The only thing the empire is gonna destroy; is the resources they came for. Three: Have a nice day. Goodbye.

Defensive Trench warfare tactics will never go obsolete.

Ehhhh. No. It is trench warfare, but what would bombarding do? Those Confederate soldiers are darting around like the Viet Kong. What would bombarding from a ship do to a forest? Also, bombarding would destroy imperial troops. Even if the bombarding worked, you would need to land troops to secure the planet. That means the Confederates, not fighting in blocks would just kill them. That's what happened on Mimbam.

I think everyone here is missing the mark, 1. Trenches save lives in REAL combat. 2. We don't use space fleets like they have in Star Wars, so you can't really compare real war to a fantasy movie. 3. The makers of Star Wars don't care about canon, Don't care for realism, don't care about logic and don't care what ANY of the fans think. EVERY fan theory is better than what they will put in the movie. From what I saw in Solo, the empire was fighting shadows and shooting at noises, there was no enemy shown on screen. So orbital bombardment would be useless since you can't target imaginary things. (except SouthPark Imagination Land)