Actually, when Kylo started choking Hux in the throne room, the conversation they had was; Kylo - "The Supreme Leader is Dead!" Hux - "Long live the Supreme Leader!" It was a bit hard to make out since Kylo was shouting and Hux was choking, but it's a play on the old saying "The King is dead, long live the King!", which is usually said when one monarch dies and their heir rises to take their place.

Thought I was the only one that noticed the books on the falcon. Yoda was quietly covering for her from Luke.

That little kid in the final shot needed to make the "voom" sound that we've all made when playing with any stick like object as a lightsaber.

Rey still has both hands 0/10

"The supreme leader is dead." "All hail the supreme leader."

I really liked that line that Luke had “the dark side, you didn’t even try to resist it”

Why do people still think Rey and Kylo Ren are siblings? I just don't understand lmao

There’s something so satisfying watching these guys geek out about the movie

Her parents are nobodies and I love it. Besides she said it, not Kylo. She's the first one to say "they were nobodies"

I don't understand why people think that any force-wielder has to be related to somebody from the old films The force doesn't just run through 2 families in the entire galaxy, you know.

Bringing back the original hologram of Leia.. blew me away.

The scene where the admiral does the hyperdrive attack on the first order fleet was one of the most visually beautiful things I have seen in cinema.

What I loved about the light speed part was that no one at the theater dared to make a sound and ruin the moment

I think the reason why they didn't tell Poe was because they are working in a military structured hierarchy and his commanding officer just gave him an order. Vice Admiral Holdo has no obligation to explain her orders to Captain Poe.

Interesting about how you guys spoke of Bens POV seeing Luke with the saber, and Luke’s POV seeing Ben attack him first. Something i remember Obi-wan saying to Luke in ROTJ “Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” They each saw from their POV as being the truth.

Kylo and Rey are NOT siblings. Rian, Mark & co have said that it's a romantic connection between Reylo. Rey Solo was debunked so many times. It's not happening. The all point og Rey's parentage is to shows that SHE matters. Not her parents. They're nobody's. But she isn't!

"You have it too. She's the son of Anakin Skywalker as well" - Eric, 2017

The Rey/Kylo dynamic was honestly so compelling that the other storylines paled in comparison. And I’m almost certain it will be a romantic connection, not a sibling/cousin one.

Rian Johnson and Hamill said the connection between Rey and Kylo is "romantic tension." So not siblings.

1:02:50 Plagueis didn't create Anakin. He was trying to tip the balance of the force to the dark side in a ritual and he felt the force itself strike back in response. Anakin was that response to restore balance.

This is gonna be a long comment, but I just have to say that I love that you guys like this movie. This channel has people who are the biggest star wars nerds (not saying that in a bad way) in the galaxy and the fact that they loved it really tells me that this movie is genuinely good. I mean these guys know so much about the lore of star wars and they remember so much, like when they watched the twin suns episode of star wars rebels and Obi-Wan switches stances in his duel with darth maul, one of you instantly said "that's qui-gon's stance" I love this movie, I hate that it's getting so much negative feedback and so much hate but hey, art's subjective. I love how this movie deconstructs the idea of the myth of luke skywalker and how he has to have his own little hero's journey again and doing it creates the myth of luke skywalker again when he faces the entire first order by himself. I love how this movie explores the lore of star wars and takes it in new and different directions while still giving it that star wars feeling (Luke and Yoda). and I'm so happy that Luke didn't die by being struck down by anyone. Luke Skywalker became one with the force with peace and purpose having faced his demons, and not before showing off one last amazing trick he had up his sleeve, showing us that he's still as powerful as ever. This movie is just so good, and I love that you love it. Cheers.

Seriously, people still want to debate Rey's parents? Kylo sees it in Rey's past, he confronts her denial and she reacts because she knows its true. It's an important narrative choice that makes her into someone rising to become a hero and not just some bloodline/destiny/chosen one; the way Luke was originally. They reinforce it with the child at the end that the force is not just a Jedi or Skywalker thing anymore. The movie thematically is very much about breaking away from the past.

I saw this movie today and I liked it a lot. Having Akbar die offscreen did make me feel sad though. I would've loved it if he was the one piloting the big ship and just before he goes lightspeed at the Supremacy he contacts the First Order, they ask snidily what this is, and he says, "It's a trap." Yes it sounds really cheesy but damn if it wouldn't have been good to see

There's a connection between Ben/Kylo and Rey...but it sure ain't a sibling one. They're clearly going the romantic angle with those two.

Watching you guys talk about this stuff reminds me about WHY I fucking love these movies

I think Snoke, while decently powerful, was using Kylo as a sort of conduit and using his power by manipulating him emotionally. That's why the connection still happens at the end of the movie, because it's Kylo's potential that creates the necessary conditions in the first place.

RIP Admiral Akbar.

I believe that Rey's parents are no one important. I think that was even shown in her "cave" scene. When she wiped away the fog and saw only herself, I felt like that was showing that she was the important one. She raised herself and she was strong all on her own merits. Her parents didn't matter. I don't think Ben was lying honestly. I feel like Rey knew he wasn't lying just as he said. She has known for some time. I honestly hope that's where that story ends. Rey's parents don't need to be important at all and I will be so happy if everything said about her parents ends up being true. Not because horrible things were done to Rey if it is true, but because it means Rey doesn't need a special lineage. Because we all know that's not how the Force works. It can be strong or weak in anyone, regardless of their heritage.

Trolls must hate this review

It is so funny how people used to cry because of the midiclorians thing because it takes away the mystical status of the force and now they cry because they wan the force to biological trasmiten in a single family line.

Well I wouldn't say all theories didn't matter. The Reylo theory literally happened and I think they're going to continue building it in Episode 9.

Another review where they don't criticize anything. They loved avatar the last Airbender movie too

I was honestly so bored and uninterested with Finn and Roses arc this movie. But the most badass and epic moment of this movie has to go to either Kylo and Rey fighting back to back or Kylo VS Luke both scenes and my theater freaking out.

My facebook feeds have been buzzing with a lot of negativity about The Last Jedi today so thanks a lot for the (blind) wave of positivity from all you guys and Melanie. I've seen it twice now and am already planning on a third. I really fucking enjoyed this movie.

I gotta say, Leia flying was actually a highlight for me. In fact, I fucking loved it. Not even sorry. I've wanted Leia to use the force for so long now... I just... LOVED IT

Force Bonds don't only occur between kin. It typically occurs between two strong Force inclined persons, usually a master and apprentice. It's a special connection forged out of a mutual, deep understanding. Count Dooku and Yoda shared a Force Bond. So Kylo and Rey share one, but it doesn't mean they're related. Rey has been confirmed a No One, and I don't think it's a bad thing at all. SHE'S and important character, like Erick pointed out, like Obi-Wan and all those other people without origin who stand on their own. Rey raised herself on Jakku because her parents were terrible people, that's why she saw herself in the reflection. She's her OWN parent/guardian. I LOVED this movie!!! I can watch it 100000 times.

I really can't bring myself to think of Rose stopping Finn from sacrificing himself as anything other than stupid and selfish. The whole "We have to save what we love, not fight what we hate" idea is cutesy and all, but it's just not founded on anything whatsoever. I guess the Rebels should've just given Alderaan a big hug and pushed it out of the way, instead of blowing up the Death Star? I guess Admiral Holdo did the wrong thing when she sacrificed herself to disable Snoke's Star Destroyer and save the Resistance? Because here's the thing, by "saving the thing she loves", Rose also prevented Finn from trying to save the Resistance, thus dooming like 100 people to death because she didn't want to lose Finn. That's nothing other than selfishness on her part. You can't have Holdo be the hero for sacrificing herself in one scene, and then try to make Rose the hero 30 minutes later for stopping Finn from doing the same thing.

I could watch the throne room battle scene for hours. and my jaw dropped when the ship went lightspeed to attack the First Order fleet

So nice to see a positive review going in depth about the things that happens instead of saying "thats stupid and thats dumb because.. reasons" xD

I think the overall complaint is Luke’s character. I don’t really understand what people mean by that? How did they ‘butcher’ Luke’s character? I felt like Luke was such a badass in this movie. I thought he portrayed a disappointed and heartbroken Jedi master well.

10:58 - I actually don't mind if Rey's parents were nobodies. For me, that was a course correction for Star Wars. In the very first film (A New Hope), we see a young farm boy, rogue smuggler, furry alien and two obscure droids save the Rebel Alliance. It was great to think that Luke didn't have to be born into Jedi powers. Of course, that changed with Empire...and even more so with the prequels. I like the fact that someone obscure who is good at heart and truly believes in a cause can be powerful in the Force.

I love snoke died at the hand of the Skywalker lightsaber

i'm only 14 mins in but you were just talking about rey and ben possibly being siblings - AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FELT THE EXTREME SEXUAL TENSION BETWEEN THOSE CHARACTERS OR

Get rid of the entire casino Finn and Rose plot line, save 30 minutes, and you have a great Star Wars movie!

I LOVED THE MOVIE

The movie had problems,but to me it brought a whole other dimension to the saga,which makes it great.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't Selise Baratheon operating the radio station Calvin... I believe that was Lysa Arryn

I'm READY, 1h 40! w00t Loved the film myself, although there were some questionable points in the film. The whole structure of the film was great, left completely intrigued throughout the whole thing and wasn't really sure where it was headed which is a nice change from the other Star Wars films; although I love them, you could generally grasp a sense of where it was going and how it was going to end up whereas with this film it had me somewhat anxious (in a good way) and in complete anticipation of where it was heading. The plot was spot on. Rey discovering what the force truly is about and finding her place in everything was exciting to watch and her attitude towards Ben shifting. Discovering Luke tried to kill Ben in hindsight for that scene alone when Ben said that to Rey I thought I wouldn't of believed it. Possibly being a ploy for Kylo to seduce Rey to the dark side. However, the set up of Ben's character in The Force Awakens and emphasized in this film; his visible remorse killing Han and the conflict you can see brewing in him, had me entirely convinced he was telling the truth and that there was a chance for a dark side character to return to the light for once which is a twist I was rooting for in this film. Furthermore, discovering Luke's rash decision to kill Ben as being just a rash train of thought rather than a premeditated dark plan was a great plot point imo. You could argue that a Jedi master wouldn't make a mistake like that, but it's a statement of Luke's humanity, although dark and why he ultimately comes to believe the Jedi must end. He chose to sacrifice the few for the needs of the many. Although a dark thought, it was to protect the ones he loved. I've always interpreted a balance of the force as being a new order that needs to be introduced that intertwines the dark and the light side of the force. The Jedi suggests the dark side is all bad, as the name suggests (which makes observing it hard to think otherwise) but in my opinion the dark side has it's benefits. Temptation and selfishness are an essential part of life; again that sounds bad on the surface and why those are attributed with the dark side and frowned upon by the Jedi but let me explain. Let's look at it from a basic level of the force within sentient beings as being the essence of life itself. To stay alive we must be tempted through instinct to eat and survive right? We must also be selfish, to stay alive and defend ourselves against something that might threaten our life, right? If a herbivore runs from a predator, it's being selfish through instinct to save itself; a basic instinct that protects life from something that might extinguish it. Otherwise, if that herbivore were not selfish through instincts to save itself, it would roll over and die for the predator; to save itself would be selfish. I may have lost you, but ultimately the Jedi suggests you must not give in to those elements of the force; but they're necessary for life and Luke's blindness to those elements of the force is what created Kylo Ren. His temptation to kill in the hope of selfishly saving the one's he loves at the expense of another sentient was rash, because he was untrained and taught to resist. Rather than understand those feelings through the study of the dark side, which is why they were a rash thought and led to his mistake which he then realised was a mistake by which point it was too late and Ben was lost the worst of the dark side because of Luke's ignorance of the dark side. Fruthermore, on a more complex note in terms of sentient life. The Jedi has you extinguish any personal ties to lead you not into any kind of temptation that might benefit yourself over anyone else. But to benefit yourself is to benefit others and continue life. To love someone and continue your lineage through family; you're naturally tied to them and without that temptation of love how could you save your family from danger? Your individual longing for love is a selfish act but ultimately benefits others. To save the ones you love from an outside threat is considered dark by the Jedi. So by that, if all sentient life were Jedi's and not allowed to love, how could we reproduce and continue life? We would have no means to without temptation, selfishness and love. So by that philosophy, the Jedi must end. Something new must rise from the ashes and bring a balance to the force. *Que oh so wise Yoda to burn the old books" That's why I loved that scene, it spoke a thousand words; though I can understand without context why fans would be salty. I've never though a balance of the force should be a war between two sides like the two sides believe it to be. However, a balance of the force should be a combined element. A new order that studies the best of both sides of the force. The Jedi are bad for misunderstanding the true meaning of life and the Sith are bad for mistreating the powerful elements of the dark side (such as love) as means for tempting the destruction of life (Think Anakin being indoctrinated by Palpatine, through his love for Padme leading to killing everything else in an attempt to save her, whereas an order of balance could've taught Anakin to love without being selfish in an evil way). This idea then leads on what I see as Luke's epiphany. He used the force to impose himself elsewhere and face off against Kylo Ren; using a true balance of the force. Buying them time in both a selfish and selfless act. Selfish in the sense he was saving the ones he loves, selflessly over exerting himself using the force to save others; using everything the Jedi taught him yet using the dark side of the force. Everything good about the Jedi driven by everything good about the dark side; a complete balance of the force. The disappearance at the end wasn't him dying from using too much of the force in my opinion, but a transcendence to becoming one with the force as he achieved perfect balance in his final moments. Much how I believe Yoda and Obi-Wan were able to do so and how they now exist within the force, as they achieved true balance and become one with the force. God damn, I've just realised what I've just wrote. Shit, we still talking about the film? LOOOOOL Anyway, the rest of the film like Rey being tempted to the dark where all through her longing to belong and be loved by finding out who her parents. Again, a harmless part of the dark side that should not be feared and why that mirror scene worked wonders for me. It spoke how she didn't have to search for others who don't love her back, that doesn't continue the circle of life and it suggests how she shouldn't be afraid to be selfish and root for herself and achieve her own goals rather than waiting for someone else. I was curious about Rey's heritage and was on the hype train with everyone else about who her parents could be but I was so glad they turned out to be no one. I believe it was that strong needing for love from her parents (a dark attribute remember) that made the force in her so strong; something inside, waiting to burst out. Her trusting in Ben and having that turn on it's head to have herself completely outwitted by Snoke was awesome; the conflict of light and dark in Ben made for a balance that defeated snoke and allowed him to 1 up him. Showing that both sides of the force is better with one. Using one hand with the dark side that snoke was focusing on and the other hand with the light side that snoke couldn't see was awesome. I've seen people argue that Snoke was super powerful and shouldn't of died like that but the statement behind it being just how powerful a balance of the force is compared to just the dark side or the light. While watching the film I was hoping Ben would switch to the light and thought it was going to happen in the final confrontation after Snoke and the red guards. At which point Ben's justification for making it all end is easy to sympathise with. Being betrayed by the Jedi and the First Order; his intentions with the force turned evil, proposing an end to life; to let it die. I say evil with the force instead of dark because as I've made clear, the dark and the light are misunderstood so from this scene it birthed something new for me when understanding the force to make it more black and white; good and evil. Rey's intentions were to save life by having the fleeing ships saved out of love and sympathy for the people on board; her intentions were good. So at this point the tension brews. Kylo is evil and wants to destroy the force of life. Rey is good and wants to save the force of life. At the time of watching I was still thinking in terms of the dark side and light side and really wasn't sure who might've joined who. But seeing them face off was epic; both able to use a balance of the force. Opposites of the force like dark and light: Luke and Vader faced off in a lightsaber battle by attracting to one another (OPPOSITES ATTRACT) but Rey and Kylo were both able to balance the force (SAME REACTS) two polar similarities visually magnetising away from one another with the force in the standoff made such a broad statement about how the ways of the force and the understanding of Star Wars has shifted. Damn, I'm still going with the philosophy, anyway as for those story arcs that's what I made of them. However, for the other lighthearted arc such as the Finn and Rose I didn't enjoy as much and the Po and Admiral (can't remember her name) I found myself intrigued but dumbfounded in a bad way for political statement I feel it was trying to make. The whole Finn and Rose thing was very cheesy, I felt it was thrown in there for the sake of having a love story. Didn't find myself seeing any chemistry there at all, the whole trip to the casino felt a bit too much like it was trying to become another iconic Cantina scene, but personally didn't enjoy the too Earth like relation it was making to the casino, I like inspired. But not too inspired!

Yay! Finally :D I loved the film and was looking forward for a discussion from blindwave. Thanks fellas!

No matter how much anyone else says that the movie sucked, I will always think that this movie is amazing

That southern gentleman alien. lol And the lines between Hux and Kylo was: Hux: The Supreme Leader is dead Kylo Force chokes him a bit. Hux: Long live the Supreme Leader.

I loved this movie. Every minute of it. Didn't mind too much the cantina scene. Loved Mark Tamil as luke. Loved the acting from everyone. Including Carrie fisher's amazing final performance. Loved snoke. His death was satisfying and the build up to it was great. Everything after that was great especially that fight between rey kylo and those guards. Loved the space battles. Loved the visuals. The effects both practical and cgi were amazing. Visually the movie looked beautiful. The story worked for me. The action scenes worked for me. Yoda was fantastic. My jaw dropped at all the film's biggest moments. An original star wars movie written very well. The characters are emotionally strong as well as likeable. The emotional weight was there and it works. The twists were good. Loved captain phasma. Loved her fight with finn. Loved the humor. Rian Johnson did a solid job. Loved it. Loved this movie.

To all the people saying that this movie was a disappointment, that's the interesting part because thematically speaking, The Last Jedi is actually a film about disappointment and I am increasingly convinced that they went that route to fullfill a very specific purpose: Storywise, Rey is disappointed in Luke, who is disappointed in himself and Kylo, who is disappointed with Luke and Han and Leia and later Rey and definitely Snoke, who is disappointed in Kylo, while Leia is dissappointed in Poe and Poe is disappointed in Haldo and Haldo is disappointed in Poe in turn, and Rose is disappointed in Finn and Finn is disappointed with the status of war and later war profiteering between both sides of the conflict, and so on. The film itself even deliberately disappoints its audience by not delivering on “the goods”: I wanted Luke to mess people up with his green lightsaber, and I was dissappointed. I wanted Luke to carry on into the next flim, and I was disappointed. A whole bunch of us wanted Rey’s backstory to be elaborate and relating back to the lore of the franchise in some way, and we all were disappointed. A whole bunch of us wanted to know where Snoke came from and if he was actually someone else from lore, and we were all disappointed. And so on. You see my point. The Last Jedi is not the exact fan experience you’re looking for. It’s not about scratching that specific itch. It’s about taking the franchise into new, uncharted territory (at least on big screen, there were probably a few obscure old EU books that ventured around here before). BUT at the same time it still ends up being entertaining by still being a good Star Wars movie, with tons of laughs and cries and family drama and space battles and force visions and lightsaber action and good acting and good music. It still gives the viewers their money’s worth on that account and then some. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. But then again no film is. It has sagging pace for the first half, jokes that don’t land, a few genuine missed opportunities (Phasma again; Snoke backstory; apparently Leia and Ben’s relationship isn’t going to get closure, though that’s not the filmmakers’ fault), and its probably a little long for general audiences. But while it is important that I address them, I’m not going to dwell on those things because I know I don’t have to. I love it because, Star Wars feels more new to me than ever before and that's exciting!

So im only one who noticed that kid at the end use force to garb his broom??? COME ON!!

I’m so glad you guys enjoyed the movie

Pretty good movie. Some of the best cinematography in the franchise. The Rey/Kylo/Luke plotline was outstanding. Genuinely great, and with a thematic depth I wasn't expecting. And yes, fuck your Snoke theories. The Poe/Leia/Holdo plotline was good, but didn't have the kind of payoff that it really needed (Poe only sort of comes off like he learned anything). The Finn/Rose/DJ plotline was out of place and dragged the rest of the movie down, but I liked Rose as a character and thought she was a good addition to the franchise. Most of the negative things I see people complaining about are the usual nitpicks and "you ruined my childhood" nonsense.

This was a great discussion. I love how nerdy you guys get over Star Wars, just like my friends and I.

I personally didn't enjoy a lot of the movie but I'm happy to see this positive outlook on the movie and in the comments section. It's a breath of fresh air. Happy a lot of you loved the movie :)

I didn't even like the movie and yet hearing you guys gush over it and show your passion just puts a smile on my face. That's why you guys are my favorite KZfaq channel. It's just nice watching you guys discuss whatever.

I found this movie enjoyable, and I thought it was better than TFA. I would agree that it’s the best movie since Empire. Not my absolute favorite at the moment, but I liked it. A lot of really great moments and sequences in the movie (My favorites being Luke talking with Yoda, Kylo Ren killing Snoke and fighting the guards, and Luke’s death with the Binary Sunset theme.) Overall, I expected a very VERY vocal minority of people to hate the film (they never really give valid reasons, they just say “Disney’s ruining Star Wars, like they forget Attack of the Clones is a movie)-

The Film Was About Overcoming the Aftermath of Failure and Persevering. Everyone Failed Over and Over but Learnt to Become More than Who They Were Before. A Great Lesson.

I feel like the bond was more of a Revan and Bastila thing than a bond between siblings.

I think the move is worthy of a rewatch in theaters in my opinion

*spoiler warning* In my viewing, when Holdo does her sacrificial hyperspace-jump, the entire packed theater went *dead* silent. And then, from the very front, one guy just says, "Daaaaaaamn."

It wasn't Selyse Baratheon but Lysa Tully/Arryn that was the radio operator.

Finally! Finally! They finally use the Force well in a Star Wars movie!

I found comedy in Luke "cockblocking" Kylo and Rey in the hand touching scene XD

My jaw dropped when Leia the Force! I thought the shot where they ram the ship into the other ship with hyperspace jump, the death of snork (or however you say his name) was badass! Luke was great. I don't care what "fans~" say, it was a blast of a film and I'd see it 5 more times if i could!

WHERE ARE THE KNIGHTS OF REN, also i think they might take Rose into a traitor route, i feel her and finn don't feel the same for each other and they might find a way to turn her evil and go with Kylo

Maybe if Holdo told to Poe about her plan, Poe will be the one who stay on the star cruiser and sacrifice himself. But after ep8, Poe grows up, more calm and wise, so he can become the leader of rebellion in ep9... just guess

Thank you guys for this, I don’t get why everyone’s hating on this I absolutely loved it and now my 13 year old daughter is a huge Star Wars fan-mission accomplished. May the Force be with you! 😃😁

Personally, I love every Star Wars movie, although Episodes 1 and 2 are kind of hard to sit through. When I first saw The Last Jedi - I could understand why people hated on it so much. It went in directions that people didn't expect, and some didn't really want. That being said, I LOVED pretty much all of the twists in the movie. I do agree with most people that the Canto Bight stuff was pretty unnecessary though. SPOILERS: Luke's death: I loved the way Rian Johnson handled the passing of Luke Skywalker (which I know is an unpopular opinion). The whole point of Luke's force projection thing is to buy the resistance time to escape. It was never going to be about going out in a blaze of glory like many people expected/wanted. Isn't the whole point of the Jedi to be the peacekeepers of the Galaxy and of the Force? Luke did something that nobody had ever done (as far as we know) at that extreme of a level. How much more of a Jedi can he be? I loved the imagery of Luke becoming one with the Force with the sunset in the background, it was a beautiful callback to the original Star Wars. People are angry about Luke just disappearing into the force peacefully, although they seem to forget that Yoda basically did the same thing in Return of the Jedi, nobody seemed to have a problem with that though. Luke's Cowardice: This also brings up the complaint that Luke is a coward who went into hiding, when he does literally the same thing Yoda and Obi-Wan did at the end of Revenge of the Sith. They failed to see evil right under their nose, and it came out and destroyed the Jedi Order, which is what Ben Solo did. The difference is that Luke actually did see the evil and was about to hastily act on it, but then was caught with his lightsaber lit and the rest is history. Luke was ashamed of what he let happen, and felt like the galaxy would be better off without him, and without the Jedi as a whole. People say that Luke wouldn't pull out his lightsaber like that, but it wasn't the first time he let his emotions get the best of him. Remember Return of the Jedi, when Luke was beating the living hell out of Darth Vader? He let his anger get the best of him for a few moments, but he stopped and realized what he was doing and fought against it. The same thing happened with Ben Solo, Luke just realized it too late. Snoke's Death: This was beyond satisfying, Snoke always felt like a placeholder for when Kylo would eventually take over as Supreme Leader. I think this actually makes Snoke a bit more interesting because it makes you question, who the hell was that guy? He was obviously very powerful with the Force because he threw Rey around like a rag doll, and then to just get killed off so easily. Who is he? What's his story? I have a feeling that more will be learned about him in Episode IX through some kind of backstory. I think the point is that the Force is always looking for balance, there's never not going to be a sith, it has to remain balanced, which is why Snoke appeared. The Force chose him to balance out the light.There may be lulls where there are more light side force users than darksiders, but eventually it balances back out. Rey and Ben: Going into the movie, I thought that one of the major characters would switch sides or something. I got that, for like 5 minutes. Ben Solo kills Snoke unexpectedly and briefly fights the Praetorian Guards alongside Rey, which was an amazingly awesome fight scene. For a moment I thought, "Okay so is Ben a good guy now?" I really liked when Ben basically turns back into Kylo Ren and asks Rey to join him and rule the galaxy together. It shows that maybe Ben Solo isn't redeemable after all. The only nitpick I have is that Rey doesn't seem to be really tempted even a little bit to join the dark side, she just immediately tells Ben to not go that way. Other than that, this was a really great scene. Rey's Parents: I don't have much to say about this one because I find this to be the least interesting major character detail. That being said, I like the subversion of expectations, and I like the message. I think it's a much better message that someone can come into power and make a name for themselves coming from nothing, rather than having to be born into it. Much like Snoke, I think the Force chose Rey to balance things out. This is actually in line with the whole thing from Attack of the Clones about Jedi not being allowed to love, because how else do they procreate? I guess the idea is that the Force chooses people to be force-sensitive, and that's how the Jedi Order found new Jedi. The kid with the broom: Pretty much the only real reason why Canto Bight is in the movie, at the very end of the film you see a force-sensitive kid use the Force to grab a broom. This goes along with what I said about the Force choosing people to be force-sensitive. With the passing of Luke Skywalker, and there really only being two Jedi remaining (Ben and Rey), the galaxy needs new ones. Canto Bight: Okay, so this is pretty much the only thing I didn't like about the movie. I don't think it's necessarily god-awful, it's just unnecessary. The movie is 2h 31m, cut out most of the Canto Bight stuff and it's not quite as much of a chore to sit through. Finn and Rose's plan fails, and I think that may have been kind of a meta point on the part of Rian Johnson. Not all grand plans succeed, and that may have been the point. If it was, they didn't illustrate it very well. Like I said, the main payoff for the whole Finn and Rose trip to Canto Bight is the kid with the broom at the end of the film. I really felt like Finn was wasted as a character in this film, he was such a big part of TFA, and then he becomes kind of a side character in TLJ. His story could have been much more meaningful and powerful if he had been allowed to sacrifice himself like the film teased for a moment, but then Rose had to fly into him and ruin it... She made it worse with a really forced kiss that I think Finn was even surprised by. Leia and Poe: I thought the whole flyboy Poe thing was kind of cliche, but it was fine since we knew what Poe was like because of how he acted in TFA. I also loved how we finally got to see Leia use the Force, although admittedly it looked kind of silly. Overall, Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a very solid film, the pacing is a little iffy because of the Canto Bight stuff, but the good moments are just too good.

I think the movie had some of the best scenes in Star Wars ever, and I do appreciate that the whole theme of the movie was basically anyone can be a hero--it's not about your lineage or your upbringing or your training, etc--but I did have some issues with some of the finer details of the plot and some of the moments made me kinda cock my head and go, huh, REALLY? But I'm seeing it again to see if I might have missed anything and I look forward to seeing it again.

16:54 "She is the Son of Anakin Skywalker too" I legit lol'd at that lol

RIP luke skywalker, you perished the way you came into our hearts, staring at a twin sunset

Watched and loved every minute of this, so awesome to see people who felt exactly the same as me about this, loved it and loved this video thanks guys, true fans talking about a true Star Wars experience.

Btw laura dern was a character from the Leia Comics. They were friends as kids and was supposed to be really quarky, like Luna lovegood, but they didnt really explain anything about her in the actual movie, just expected you to know.

Loved the movie. A few minor quibbles having to do with Luke and still more underutilized Phasma, but not enough to kill my enjoyment of the movie. Will absolutely see it multiple times in theater.

I remember following up on you guys occasionally last year, and subscribing for Avatar and RWBY...but it was your TFA Trailer Discussion that made me become a patron and really look at the content you've created. Like...mad respect. Your Star Wars fan film was awesome

Honestly, the only thing I didn't like about this film was how they handled Phasma AGAIN. Seriously I was on board with her coming back after reading the Phasma book, and they immediately killed her. Sucks man.

So glad you guys loved the film. So much of people's disappointment with the film is the fact that everyone's theories got nuked. You guys had as many theories as anyone and you're totally fine with the fact that the film was able to avoid those while also setting up something new/impressive. Great stuff.

This movie was intense, impossible to predict ANYTHING, Beautiful, YODA, TWO SONS and it had the saddest scene in Star Wars at the end, I loved it, it’s the best one after Empire Strikes Back

667 dislikes... I don't know what the 'True fans' hate more, The Last Jedi, or people who LIKE the Last Jedi. either way it's pretty pathetic. Nice to hear positive opinions on a movie which at this point I feel is victim to the most hyperbolic hate in media history.

this movie had multiple moments that COULD'VE made me cry, but GOD DAMN YODA. that was the only time in the movie where i shed 2 tears. i was so happy.

I just appreciate you guys geeking out about this movie. It's a refreshing change from all the complaining out there.

While I totally respect your opinion and wouldn’t poo poo how you guys feel about the movie.. I do feel you guys are kinda in the honeymoon stage after seeing it, to say it’s the best Star Wars movie of all is crazy to me, but when your fresh from watching a flick you often feel the extreme of love or hate. I think in time you guys might feel different, just as I probably won’t dislike it as much as it gets a chance to sink in

I watched this last night and it was AMAZING. The shot with the AT-M6 walkers with the sunset behind them looking at Luke was awesome

When i saw that kid at the end looking at the stars i instantly got the feeling of Anakin from Episode 1 looking at the stars with Qui-Gon Jinn

I thought it was pretty great.

I've been waiting for this omg I have never clicked so fast!

My main issue is that there was so little pay-off for anything they ever set-up for this trilogy. Rey's parents? Nope. Snoke's identity? Nope. End of the Jedi? Nope. A character turning to the other side? Nope. Rey's dark side? Nope. Finn's growth from running away to running toward? Almost, but noped by Rose. Finn and Rose's mission? Nope. Phasma importance? Nope. etc, etc, etc. In the end, I feel there was a whole lot of nothings and nopes in the movie than there were satisfying answers. Its lore was empty and fruitless. Luke said it wouldn't go the way we expect, so we expect the unexpected, and in the end it goes the expected route. I felt... unsatisfied with what the movie gave me.

16:53 - He just called Leia the "SON" of Anakin Skywalker. When did Leia became a male? LOL!

The movie was amazing! Best part was the death of Snoke and Rey and Kylo Ren fighting the royal guards

Weird coming back to this video a couple years later and seeing lots of relatively positive comments about this film.. Reinforces the idea of the Internets hive mind about hating things ;)

The water from Kylo was supposed to show that there can be some physical interaction when using force projections, therefore hinting at Luke's force projection.

This movie was amazing

The crawl at the beginning XD

If you think about it, in a way it does feel like Rian Johnson tried to fix everything that people had a problem with or didn't respond to in 7. Kylo was called weak by the fans so he got called out for it by Snoke. CGI Snoke wasn't threatening to people so he got removed, also doing away with the usual master/apprentice duo so it isn't like the rest of the saga. It went so far as to point out that the white stuff isn't snow, it's SALT! wink wink Rey's parents are nobody yet she is as powerful as a Skywalker. A name which Luke tried to bring down to earth in his monologue. The idea of Darth Vader also crushed with that helmet. The message being that anyone can be what they were. Everything with Luke was fine until the point you found out that he wanted to kill Leia and Han's son. Sure he said that he looked into his future and saw the massacre and what not, but in 6 he tried to bring back a man who was a Sith for decades and barely even human anymore. Pretty sure Luke would have talked to Leia first and tried to figure stuff out. It's as if the Luke of 6 years ago was already that negative hermit on the island. I mean I liked the movie, but I am also extremely conflicted. The mistakes like Luke and the humor were so fundamental that you cannot look past it and now I'm slightly worried about RJ's new trilogy. As for 9. Phasma is dead as well. We don't have enough antagonists now. Kylo Ren is still not menacing enough especially since he looked to turn until the last moment. His motivations for power are also not clear. Anakin sacrificed himself for Padme and through the dark side he was prepared to save a future for her. In TLJ we find out that, Ben felt he was thrown away, but why? because he was sent to his Uncle to study what only he could teach him? But then he says he didn't hate Han and it was Luke instead. I get that he felt betrayed and wanted to get enough power so that he wouldn't need to be afraid, but then he was scared of Snoke as well and kills him. He has no guidance, no real reason to fight anymore or are we to believe that his fear and anger for Luke led him to want to subjugate the entire galaxy? Something so personal to spread so wide seems unnatural. Plus for 2 films now, Rey has matched him in power, so why should we be afraid the next time they face off? Also it's slightly annoying how much they want to distance themselves from the prequels. One of the first things this trilogy does is get rid of the Republic so the war that needs to be fought doesn't reminisce of the galactic war. TLJ even went as far as to call the Resistance, Rebels and pointing out that nobody is coming, setting up another Guerilla style war for 9 like the OT. But, if you look at it, the galaxy is huge. Lot of planets have their own army. Since the First Order was a known faction, you can be sure that the ENTIRE New Republic army was NOT stationed in the Hosnian system. Holdo was also just another Resistance member, when she should have been someone sent from the remains of Republic. This senseless catering to OT fanatics actually hurt the saga overall.

I loved this movie. I am just afraid that this movie is gonna divide the fanbase even more then it already is. EDIT: I am gonna add that people can dislike or like this movie, but let's just respect each other's opinion and not attack each other because we have a different opinion.

I saw originals in theaters.. I didn't love TLJ, it's bottom 3 for me. My son (19) liked it but didn't love it. My friends daughter in elementary school LOVED it. IMO. This is who this version of the universe is for. I do like Rey way better than in TFA. Poe is great. Fin is throw away.