Isn't this one such a beauty though? Thank you! An olddie but a classic!

Any interest in capital ships in Freespace 2 : Blue Planet? Those modder-designed ship are very well balanced as they avoided many common flaws among video game capital ships, and their layered point defense are nightmarish in game even for experienced players.

i enjoyed this one, refitting old videos is welcome as far as I am concerned

That is just a beautiful ship. I appreciate the extension on the video. I think Thrawn started his command on a Venator class.

Y'all provide good and solid content. So if something repeats itself, my god. Shit happened, it does. Knowledge expands, by its very nature. What is learned if ever, overwrites what has been taught.

He would do that imo. Considering Ani was a war hero at that point, they probably would have listened to his opinion.

I can hear him saying that. Why did you put that sound in my brain

(Camera pans to Ahsoka aggressively taking notes)

Pull the turret off an SPHA and stick it on the ceiling of the bay.

@@autumngottlieb3071 a "The office" close-in

It's to make it go fasta....

I'm still partial to an X-Wing and A-Wing but these are my favourite capital/large ships by far in SW.

I like them better than Imperial SDs. They're a more interesting design.

Thank you

I agree.. I wanna another live action clone wars with More Venators in action!

yeah

My thoughts exactly.

budget cuts be like, paint hah we dont need that

@@soul1d it’s not because of budget cuts

It just looks colourless and sad

i heard that the design is actually a sith symbol

Are you sure it isn't acclamator? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNqXdJeSxrjHnGw.html

@@zerox8413 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNF-aJiKxN6yhIU.html 8 seconds to 16 seconds. Again at 24 seconds. Definitely a Venator. There doesn't even appear to be any kind of docking station or other support structure under it from what we can see. I think we can safely conclude that either: A The Venator class can do surface landings. B: This was an error and the ship wasn't supposed to be able to do that (but it is movie canon that it can do so, and I personally take the films as higher canon than cross-sections or other books, good as they are.) Or C: That there existed a Venator variant that added landing capability, either as an innate design feature, or as a modification to one or more ships. The only other live-action scene with a planet-side Venator that I am aware of is when Anakin and Obi-Wan said goodbye to each other for the last time as friends. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9NoaJeq1pmcmo0.html There are ramps allowing AT-TEs onto the ship, but it is unclear if those are a part of the ship or a ground structure. No landing gear can be seen retracting, but some kind of supports can be seen in the clip. Again, it is uncertain if these are inherent to the design or an external tool. At any rate, regardless of whether or not they had landing gear themselves, Episode III completely proves that it is possible for these ships to land in one way or another. (Edited for addition footage, comments, and for typo correction.)

@@George-se8dv yep, that's a Venator, at 24 second mark you can see the double com towers

buffalo wt the ones on Coruscant don’t touch the ground either

It needs specific areas to land.

Of course you would

Oh hello there was not expecting you to be here :D

If it was the pride of the rebel fleet, where the hell was it when they attacked the second death star?

Probably performing a flanking manuever, trapping the SDs between Liberation and Home One.

TheXPGamers The CO sounded a lot like you XD

I agree 100%. The Venators are sexy, tough, superbly armed, and generally all around excellent

what about the Harrower class Dreadnought? In my Opinion it to is a Multirole Capital Grade warship. and it can be installed with fleet killing super-weapons

It also looks like it has far less wasted space. One weird thing though is that there is no bridge connecting the two control towers.

practical? the entire superstructure is split in half. Imagine the ship's shields fail and the hull get surgical striked with heavy turbolaser fire. Due to it's hangars splitting the ship in half it's gonna fall to pieces very quickly. Compare that to stuff like dreadnought heavy cruiser, a f-ing brick that can keep fighting despite it's hull being turned into swiss cheese

@@miqvPL its meant to be a carrier, not a battleship, meant to be in the back where it won't get hit by anything.

I would add the Actis Jedi Interceptor and the Delta Aethersprite Jedi Fighter

Same

*Mentions tri-fighter*: I see you are a men of culture as well

I saw u somewhere before dude

Rothana you mean :)

@@Matt-yg8ub no kuat

Thats gotta hurt

The ISDs were sensible... during the clone wars. They weren’t suited for the Galactic Civil War however

Agree with that. The variety of CIS ships was a disadvantage. Difficult to support with a single supply chain and almost certain that you'd never have the right type of ship in the right place when you needed it. The Republic got it right with two light cruiser types, one medium (Acclamator) and one universal heavy design that proved it could be upgraded to stay effective. Much simpler logistics, training and manufacture and more likely to have the ship you need where you need it. In real life all modern navies (and a lot of airforces) are pursuing this same approach.

What about the old republic They have my alligence

What about Sith Empire's fleet or Eternal Empire's fleet?

Well no because they use carriers as battlecrusers

Peter Kitching They are more or less Heavy Aviation Cruisers.

i would take the mc 75 as a personal residence

A personal residence crewed by 7000 people 🤔

Jack Skirata agreed, pour in a few more credits so it’s better than just Military grade and you have yourself a great versatile vessel for all occasions.

@@notcool4488 why you... well enjoy good content

@@hafor2846 witch can be replaced by droids.

hamburger ofDOOM I was thinking the same too, there’s a Venator on the ground in Battlefront 2 as well

@Cpt Khan nope it landed

Prolly just an oversight, but it could be chocked up to specialized designs

@@NapalmStrike802 or it being moored to the ground

Hence as Dan said the massive ventral laser from the hanger bay to compensate for lack of those medium turbo lasers

I would imagine it also has a weaker hull than an ISD since it's much less massive and a huge part of it is empty space.

Compared to an ISD, the Venator's main batteries are supposed to be about the same combined yield, and the Venator's reactor output is slightly over a third of an ISD's reactor output, so you can pretty well understand why the Venator has almost no secondaries.

Plus modifying the design for serving a specialized roles could occur. Need a battleship, supersize the Venator design and keep the same hangar size. Need a pure capital ship, take out the hangar and shorten the length.

@@redenginner Those are all pretty good ideas. Another thing you could do instead of decreasing the size of a battle modified Venator is replace the hangar door with solid hull plating plating, add torpedo madules, and use the available interior space for an additional reactor some redundant shield generators and a massive payload of proton and ion torpedoes (hence the additional modules) Had they continue to researching newer and better star fighters, bombers, gunships, etc, eventually they would have developed models that had independent hyper drives the US making a dedicated Carrier unnecessary outside of maintenance and re-fueling.

@@lancer737 Nothing you mentioned is even close to accurate. The Venator can easily be updated to address any flaw in its design. The same cannot be said for the ISD. The TIE fighters were easily outperformed by both the A-wing and X-wing. The ONLY superior starfighter they had was the TIE Defender which never went into widespread production because the Emperor wasted too much money building superweapons and bulky impractical capital ships. The only advantage they ever had was numerical. As far as the interior of the Venator being exposed when they launched their fighters, that is not a design flaw. The problem was that they were utilizing the carriers improperly. A carrier should have launched its fighters while still well beyond the range of any capital ships. Just because a ship is used improperly does not mean it is a bad ship.

@@lancer737 The rebels lost more fighters during the battle of the Yavin because their starfighters were in a rather poor state of repair, the rebel pilots were overworked, exausted, and barely clinging to hope. Furthermore, the majority of rebel pilots were amateurs. Their few expert pilots were either Imperial defectors or a latent Jedi.The TIE pilots defending the Death Star were the best of the best and likely very well fed and rested. The rebels were also preoccupied with strafing runs and trying to blow up said Death Star. The TIE pilots were most certainly not outnumbered during the battle of Endor regardless of how they were deployed. The argument of superior technology and battle outcome is also inept because many factors besides the quality of a fighter can contribute to victory or defeat. Wedge Antilles Was an expert TIE pilot and he preferred his T65X over the TIE series. Just look at the TIE fighter(also the Interceptor) from a structural perspective. They had no life support, no shielding, negligible armor, their approximation of an eject system existed in a form of two emergency explosives located in the wing pylons, they presented a massive target profile for their size because of those wings, and regardless of their supposedly superior technology, they still had to fire line of sight basically because their visibility was abysmal. This entire argument is irrelevant anyway because my initial statement was based on INCOM recieving full imperial funding. You do realize that the TIE fighter was a scifi analog of the Japanese Mitsubishi zero from WWII don't you?They began as kings of the sky due to their speed and daring pilots, but due to lacking innovation they were quickly outpaced by their Allied counterparts. I'm sorry but you're just plain wrong. Your statements are factually and demonstrably inaccurate. Even the greater lore which draws these very analogs contradicts everything you're saying. The TIE fighters from a filmmaking perspective even, were inferior by design in order to make a rebel victory look believable.

@@lancer737 Oh you mean besides George Lucas himself saying exactly that a multiple occasions? The TIE fighter is cheap and easy to produce. Those are it's only two merits. The x wing and the a wing are just better than. Their weapons, defenses, reliability, durability, are superior. Their shielding and independent hyperdrive also make them far more versatile. Basic infantry weapons can shoot down TIE fighters. Rebel starfighter superiority was the biggest non Jedi contributing factor to the overthrow of the Empire. All of the star fighters from Star Wars were based on World War II fighter planes. Even the dog fights were based on World War II dogfights. That's the whole reason they're banking and rolling in deep space as if there was an atmosphere. Seriously read a book about Star Wars that isn't a Star Wars novel or a comic book and you would know this. If you can't grasp such a simple concept then there is no point continuing this debate.

Martin Jørgensen from what I’ve hearing been hearing, the Venator packs a serious wallop for it’s small amount of anti ship guns: for turbo lasers, they are apparently very powerful.

It is massively over-gunned for it's size. Those heavy turbolasers have a similar combined level of firepower as an Imperial 1's main battery! And it's less than half the size with a reactor 1/3 the power of an Imp (hence why it has so few laser/medium/light turbolasers)!

Duuude i'm in love with the idea of a battleship variant, remove the main flight deck, add a single large bridge much lower down against the hull and give the thing more heavy turbolaser turret batteries...maybe an additional 2 turrets on top of the hull and 8 on the bottom? with the removal of the flight deck it should have enough space for the power systems and Armour necessary to keep that firepower blasting away.

The class deserves symmetry. Allow for a superstructure ridge running the rear length of the bottom hull up until the ventral docking bay mounting a forward-firing superheavy cannon instead of Skywalker's patch job modification. Set alongside it a bank of four octuple batteries to mirror the arrangement on the upper hull. You don't need to remove the flight deck on a battleship variation. There's more than enough real estate to turn the Venator into a proper battleship without sacrificing starfighter operations. Though you might find it necessary to eliminate any planetary assault operations capability.

Another reason for the duel bridge design is in case one of the bridges goes down the other can still operate and run the ship and take over charge.

bogustoast22 in a way, the Venator is more intimidating. A swarm of high quality fighters is terrifying.

@@aaronlonghuynh5245 from a tactical perspective, fuck yeah. But remember the Imperial was brought in to intimidate those that didn't know any better. I'll take a half crewed venator any day over an imperial, so long as my fighters are all manned. But the average civilian will shit their pants at the sight of an Imperial, while just find a way to destroy the Venator.

Combine an Imperial 2 with a Venator, maybe 2. No one’s gonna even speak. Plus, if Venators cost less than imperials, than the credits saved from them could go to better/more starfighters. Checkmate, Rebel Alliance.

@@aaronlonghuynh5245 ... Shit that's actually good.

The Star Destroyer is made to intimidate the enemy. This was built to kill your enemy.

Only problem with that thing is........ No shielding and energy usage plus that thing will get deleted in seconds because well an MC-30 is longer than it

The OLD Yamato series didn’t give shielding to the Yamato but the new 2199 and 2202 series gives the Yamato Wave Motion Shielding

@@DrewDyrewood what kind of shielding? Particle or energy?

Jedi Wolf a mix of both. It can stop both kinetic and energy based weaponry. The shield has taken the full brunt of a MASSIVE thermonuclear planet bomb and stopped the Yamato from receiving damage while it rammed both an enemy warship and a building. It also stopped enemy particle weapons fire from hitting the primary hull.

Jedi Wolf Just to be clear, I am talking about the 2199 and 2202 show versions of the ship not the original version from the 1970’s show

Well, that's gonna more like a part of a Victory Class Star Destroyer

Honestly, given how overpowered the reactors of Venators are, you probably wouldn’t even need to mess with it too much. If I’m remembering right the Venator’s got something like triple the output of the Providence.

@@Rothana76 You've got a point, extra power probably isn't even needed

@@charliethenecromancer4422 but, OVER KILL...

@@TytonidaeIndustries lmao, smack two beam cannons on the bottom

Biological or chemical weapons maybe. I could also imagine commando droids taking the bridge and shutting down the life support systems.

@@wargearinternational7679 The problem with that is that clone helmets can filter out stuff like that, and we've seen that clone armor can protect from the void, shutting off life support wouldn't stop kill everyone on board

@@Stingra87 The problem with that is the clone troopers themselves, the Clone armor has magnetic foot locks, and can protect the wearer from the vacuum of space, I really don't see how the droids could take one over without even a trace of a fight

Unfortunately the plot demanded such and our logic is overruled by the narration

They only managed to do it because TCW was a fucking stupid show

Maintenance, repair, and downtime. Just because you have 200 doesn't mean more than a fraction is going to be combat-ready at any time - in fact, real life fighters spend more time in the repair shop than they do in the air.

@@DavidBarkland Welp, having around 97% of your fighters in a cruiser during a battle sounds like a waste

That just looks like the scale is off. Assuming all the fighters are 25m long at most, the bay should be *approximately* 40 fighters long(1000m:25=40). The Venator looks too short there. Star Wars' sense of scale is often off.

​@@AbyssWatcher745 you're wrong with the numbers: 192 v-19-torrent-starfighter - 6m or 192 alpha-3-nimbus-class-v-wing-starfighter - 7.9m; 192 delta-7b-aethersprite-class-starfighter - 8m or 192 eta-2-actis-class-interceptor - 5.47m; 36 arc-170-starfighter - 14.46m. together that's around 3 km (instead of your 10km), if they stand in line, what they don't. there are multiple ships next to each other. it's all correct.

Guys its because its expensive to animate

Well, the Rebels did operate a (unnamed) Venator. And the Imperial's used (at least) 1 as a flight school. Aside from that I can think of 5 reasons why the Rebellion couldn't/wouldn't do what you suggested: First) stealing a full sized capital ship (even from a scrap yard) is very hard, much harder than a frigate (like a Nebulon B). Second) finding parts, by the time of the battle of Yavin there would barely be any left anywhere. And most that were left would be war wrecks (and thus the likelihood of there being usable parts would be slim to non). Third) Finding the manpower to properly man such a large ship would also be very difficult. Part of what made the Mon Cala ships so useful to the Rebellion was thier small crew size. Partially from thier previous lives as *cargo and luxury cruise liners* (fuck Disney and their "they were buildings" nonsense) both of which need to keep (especially engineering) operating crew sizes small (and cheap, aka, inexperienced/poorly trained), whereas the Venator had no such pressures and had a very crew intense design (and they needed to be at the very least well trained). And fourth) The modifications you suggested would also be pretty resource intense. And it still wouldn't be able to survive a direct engagement with an Imperial, although it would probably fair better than most Mon Cala cruisers.

For who? Yoda?

and another the Muttafaka

Are you sure it's not Acclamator? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNqXdJeSxrjHnGw.html

@@zerox8413 It's not. You can see it clearly in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNF-aJiKxN6yhIU.html . And also on the kashyyk map in battlefront 2.

It’s not landed on the surface. It’s moored at a dock

@@TheTraumaCentre I hardly believe that. You can clearly see in the video how it is on the ground, aswell as ingame. And why would the wookies have docks capable for a cruiser

TheJaxax are there any visible landing gear? And it’s not impossible for an acclimator to land and for republic engineers to construct a temporary mooring to hold the venator

Sultan is that an RvB reference?

(cough) Battlestar Galactica (cough)

Reality Rejection Service (macges Honour)

I disagree the ship looks nicer the way it is.

The bridges of the Venator are like most bridges in Star Wars extremly exposed. This never really gets exploided by capital ships, but star fighters do. The two bridges create some kind of redundancy. There have been instances, their one of the Venators bridges was destroyed, but the Venator survived the engament, due to its secondary bridge. Connecting them would weaken the ship.

Me: Need more dakka. No, seriously, she need more guns.

The dorsal strip is not a landing strip. It’s a giant hangar door. Ships in Star Wars don’t need runways, they’re all VTOL aircraft.

Honestly landing ability isn't needed, that's what the acclamator-class is for Though I think an acclamator redesign could be useful too. Mainly by sticking all it's big guns on the bottom and giving it a small dorsal bridge, given it's meant to be Star War's answer to a LST but it looks more like baby's first star destroyer.

True

Because Tarkin Doctrine If Thrawn was around when the Empire had a fleet of these he'd have probably had a hyperdrive-less Defender designed and cranked out Victories to support them.

The funny thing about that comment is that Phasers actually do exist in star wars.

@@Legionzzzz1 not as a Nadion weapon though, but as some kind of weird sonic thermal projector.

You can target the bridge you know.

Still the stupidest decision in science fiction.

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You just had to say that. Damnit

Cannot unsee.

THE ONLY FLAW!

Thanks for ruining my day.

insane.

Do you know the soundtrack? Its awsome

No, it is main theme from Star War: The Old Republic, I think its actual name is the Battle of the Hydian Way

Ah makes more sense, I must say its got a lot of similar cues to tracks from Mount and Blade Warband then :D

I thought it was 1155 meters.......(canon)

It was actually confirmed that a variant of the AV-7 Anti-Vehicle Artillery cannons that we see during the Clone Wars TV show actually are the weapons that we see being used. And that they were part of the Venator's armament. It should also be noted that the point defense weapons actually had almost turbolaser levels of power and were not at all weak.

Thanks

That's why Mon cal shielding is so freaking overpowered..........NOT ahahahahahahahaha now time to eat my SPHA-T guns :3

Grand Admiral Thrawn With some modifications, and if it had a smaller crew, thrawn would have a field day with the Venator.