I must say, seeing Preach and Jesse be so hyped up for Dawntrail is infectious. Like if those two could jump up and down and scream how excited they were, they look like they would do it. It definitely helped that they bonded over the previous Final Fantasy games before going into the Dawntrail trailer talk.

I love seeing Garrett as the local Kyle translator for the class

VOD squad we in here.

rarely do you find a podcast that has 3 guests and they all click. You have caught personality magic in a ffxiv podcast shaped bottle. This was a good time

I forgot about the very visceral anger I felt when the shock collars went on the twins until preach was talking about it. Like "I'm the most dangerous person in this room and *I will* go scorched earth if anything happens to them"

Omg, the way preach described the team moving the studio furniture around, it genuinely sounds like Yoshi-P was the one nervous and excited about finally getting a chance to be part of one of Preach's interviews not the other way around. "He's seen your other interviews and wants a similar setup". That just feels... so surreal.

Preach starting out hot: Why do you hate Nanamo? 😂 #LetLalasRide

Kyle: **Slight concern** We're going to watch the trailer the others have already seen? 🤔 Jesse and Preach: **Very excitedly** We're doing it live!? 😃 Those two were ecstatic to feast on their reactions.

Great podcast. Even with 5 people, it wasn't confusing at all and was very fun. Looked like everyone had fun as well which is always good

I kinda can't believe I watched the whole thing, but this was super fun and worth the watch. Thank you!

1:45:20 Jesse: "I want CRAZY!" : "I am a wholesale distrubutor of crazy and crazy accessories, here's a free sample" Everyone:

watching Preach tumble down the Sailor Moon rabbit hole was an absolute joy

To be honest, Ascians are such a huge interconnected piece to ffxiv lore. It's kind of unavoidable, maybe not as a focal point, but probably mentioned in passing.

This podcast was so entertaining. I love everyone on the screen.

I could watch 10 hours of you all talking. That was so much fun! Hyped for Dawntrail as heck :)

Kyle picking up the Sailor Moon bit always makes me so freaking happy. When Endwalker came out and we got to that zone I looked to my husband and said "Are... are they season 1 Sailor Moon-ing us?"

This round table is always a pleasure to watch. Great cast. Looking forward to more Dawntrail videos in the future.

With hindsight, this episode is AMAZING by the way

A theory I have had since we learned we can time travel as canon (and a bit before but I really started cooking with it then) is that we go back in time and help Louisoix defeat Bahamut and become a primal. Because he didn't temper anyone and we know that summoning a primal doesn't have to temper people, as of EW, so we can help out with that, but of course we don't remember that we did any of that because we lost our memory like everyone else. So we are the Warrior of Light that people remember (and I know that those are a callback to the 1.0 players too, but if can still make sense for the game). I know there are probably holes in this theory, but I like it and when I heard Mage talk about time travel shenanigans I remembered this again 😃😆

Love how everyone feels so hype about expansion

I honestly need that Endwalker - Sailor Moon comparison video right now!

idk why I can't stop imagining Garrett and Kyle G'Posing but wearing those Hawaiian shirts in game and all the devs and stuff just crowding their PCs. and I can't stop laughing about it.

Less than 5 minutes and I'm already laughing 😂

Fantastic talk. I can hear the passion in everyones voices. Keep up the good work and I hope everyone enjoys DawnTrail :).

Having completed DT, it's interesting hearing the speculations and how right (or hillariously wrong) they are.

Jesse saying people's memory only lasts as long as it takes for the next hottie to show up like Aymeric doesn't still have a dedicated fan base

British Mindset vs American Mindset when it comes to the binders. We see something shiny and it's going in the bag.

thanks for posting all your podcasts on spotify guys. i appreciate it

All of the coolest people on the internet in one spot for a second time!??

much love for kyle to do the stream inlay live. Good stuff

I was here for part of the stream, now ima watch the whole thing

I realize I might be in the minority on this one but in general I am fine with main characters not being killed. I find that often times character deaths are a crutch writers will use to get an easy reaction from the audience. If a team of writers are really creative there are so many other forms of trauma that can be deeply emotional and effective. For example, with Thrancred not dying in ShB he instead get's to come to terms with his guilt over Minfilia and realizes what he should have been doing all along was helping Ryne forge her own path. Could that have been accomplished with his death there? Possibly. But I then we would miss out on his character growth after that which I find way more interesting.

I'm so up for more preach and jesse. Holy hell so fun

I see the remaining Ascians as story seeds they can pull from when appropriate. The story doesn't NEED them now, and there's absolutely no risk of rejoinings anymore (if they were so easily achieved Emet and Elidibus wouldn't have felt their objectives were impossible without they themselves at the helm), but they do exist and they DO still matter, as the Eden storyline (and Amon to an extent) showed.

I am predicted everywhere online that I can that my prediction for the new expac story... Let me say this: Alolan Eikons.

I feel angry that I watched this, because Jesse and Preach's story forecast make so much sense, I feel spoiled!!!! 🤣 Awesome roundtable, everyone!

For Kingdom Hearts, I remember playing 1 and 2 as a kid. Didn't know what was happening but whatever they said sounded cool. So when I replayed it as an adult, I found out about all the others. I immediately went "fuck it, i'm playing 1 & 2 and making up my own headcannon for everything else" lmao

shoutout to jesse sharing my stance that x-2 has the best gameplay system of all ff games to date

01:48:00 Thanks for the interpretation there Garrett. I think I knew what he was getting at, and watching Jesse get slowly more confused was wonderful, lol.

On killing the twins I talked to my gf about it and she said something that I really agree with. She pointed out that the most interesting character development would be to kill Alphie to see how Ali grows from that, but they wont kill him (I'm pretty sure he is Yoshi-Ps fav and also the protagonist if it wasn't the WoL) and it wouldn't be as interesting to see Alphie without Ali since we did already see that in HW (even if sure she wasn't dead but he has had character development without her there and even if you can argue Ali had some in SB and in the patches after SB it was not really the same since it was usually in the context of "we are doing this with scions" not "oh we don't even know if there are any scions left but us"). Also honestly I don't want to "lose" their VAs now with Colin streaming and many of the VAs joining him on the stream 😅

Wow what a line up!

Kyle is actually Cid. That's the twist for Dawntrail.

Thancred in Shadowbringers was a 10/10 absolutely perfect Death scene

Final fantasy 8 by way of Evangelion: Gendo Ikari (played by Robin Williams) and his wife Lilith train some eventually amnesiac orphans to be able to defeat Rei's great-times-100 granddaughter, who wants to commit 3rd Impact & Instrumentality at the same time, thus dividing all of existence by zero. Squall=Shinji but with existential angst & an inability to be emotionally open to others instead of having a nervous breakdown from all the pressure being heaped upon him. Kaworu still has a fixation on Shinji, but less creepy. Think Pokémon, Ash vs Gary.

The whole of Dawntrail is your dream while sleeping on trip back from the end of endwalker

1:11:45 - theory crafting

I'm not sure what Garret is talking about. Has Nanamo even had any story since 4.1 other than being at the same meetings with the others? It felt like Merlywb was the main character of 5.4. Kan-e-senna hasn't done anything other than chair meetings since, like, 2.2

1:29:30 Jesse's idea had me question a quote from the trailer a bit more, presumably from the blue lizard man. "Our nation is a fortress, our people the bricks from which it is built." Fortresses are meant to protect something. If your people are the wall, then what is being guarded inside?

I didn’t know Yojimbo had a magic number 😂. I thought there was like a formula you had to follow to use Zanmato.

Since this episode turned into crackpot theories, here's mine: Erenville becomes the villain. He starts with the word "Tatakae".

I’m not putting any weight on that last trailer line ‘til I see it in game. I still remember how everyone was freaking out about the last line in the EW launch trailer, and that turned out to be literally nothing.

I think part of the reason Godzilla Minus One won the Oscar for Best VFX is because of all the invisible VFX throughout the movie. They posted an official behind-the-scenes breakdown of it on KZfaq. I recommend checking it out because it definitely blew my mind.

BTW it's not just Sailer Moon, it's a general henshin shojo storyline vibe. My wife and I watch Pre-cure in Japanese and also noticed that it was basically just a new Pre-cure season, one of the good ones that's for the older kids and not the toddler trash seasons lol

57:18 Yeah I know what you mean. Sadly, I learned from Reddit that you should be following Y'shtola because she can see the aether. 😂

I do think we might get a lore distinction between ascians and surviving people of ethrys. Cause we see even though he isn't the best example, fandanial doesnt like the ascians goal. What's stopping a more stable minded one from saying emets plan is wacko and doing thier own thing.

Omg! We NEED a video comparing Endwalker to Sailor Moon! Please! 😆

I would love if solution 9 was a mix of both shards and the digital would idea. I think that right before the 12th, the lightning aspected shard, the shard that was rejoined during the 2nd calamity, was rejoined, the maiden created a digitalscape on a digital ark. You can of course enter this digitalscape through the door. She could only save so many people, however in order to save as many people as possible, solution 9 was created. When you enter solution 9, your souls digitize with the main reason being to avoid you from being rejoined with your source counterpart. So when the 2nd rejoining was about to occur, the maiden rallied as many people as possible and got them into solution 9, and ferried those now digital souls to the source, with solution 9 being an ark.

On the topic of 'kids going to battle school' I hope everyone gives FF Type 0 a look, enough to at least do one playthrough. Even without all the hidden lore, the context you get that first time culminates so well for that 1st ending.

I've a horrible feeling Blue Mage will get a sudden out-of-the-blue relevance in this expansion. We are travelling to the land of Blue Magery, after all? I suspect Pictomancer and Viper are deflections. It'll be one of those whole sniggering "remember that class you totally neglected and decided wasn't an actual job... You're all going to have to do it!"

My tinfoil hat theory.... Venat made a comment about stepping down as Azem for our WoL Azem version, because we were better suited to the role. What if instead of just being a traveler of geography, we are a master of time travel. Maybe this is the point in time where we learn how to time travel at will. My ultimate theory is that we live out our days as the WoL, then travel back to Amarout and become the Azem that Vanat steps down for. What I would LOVE to see (because I am not done with the ancients/ascians) is that for the next few expacs we meet, help and befriend the remaining ascians. Maybe we get ahold of those memory crystals of the 14 that we left with Elidibus. THEN the next big bad comes (maybe things begin to unravel after Zodiark and Hydalyn are gone), and we need to reunify the original Convocation of 14 to help us fix the problem. Instead of fighting them, we have to figure out how to unite them in time and space to figure things out. Last crazy theory that has been bugging me for awhile. When the Final Days occurred in our time, everyone said they heard a noise UNDER the earth, then things started falling apart. I don't think that was Meition's doing,. I think whatever made that sound changed the aether so she COULD do her worst. What if that is some crazy Labraha invention that claws its way out of the earth (leaving gouge marks on mountains in Tural?), and that's what we need the Convocation of 14 to help us fight in 8-10 years time. OK, I need to go freshen up my tinfoil hat. It's kind of dented now.

I have never been more excited to play FF8 to 10. I have FF9 on the switch, but couldn't get into it, but I'll definitely play it after P5R.

The yellow pice inside the hourglass in the launch trailer looks a lot like The Marker from Deadspace, I hope we get some really cool twisted Deadspace weirdness with that 😂

Wait a minute. Is the reason Brandihild looks the way he does is a foreshadowing to what Jesse said about his theory for the Golden Gate/Solution 9? If Brandihild was foreshadowing that, these devs are actually insane in the best way possible.

"Everyone wants to watch to watch you play but only if THEY'VE played it" - This is absolutely true, at this point the only XIV streamer I'm watching is Caffeinated Dad XD I know it's safe!

I listened on apple podcasts but came back to see the trailer react with video. My big question is.......how long is Erenveld (sp???) gonna be carrying that gleaner backpack. Forever???? This was such a fun listen! I can't wait to watch y'all go through Dawntrail in a couple weeks! 🍹🌴

That thing they fight in the trailer, with the wings and long neck looks quite a bit like a greater demon of Tzeench from Warhammer 40K. And the flying things are a bit like Dark Eldar on those spiked hover boards. Warhammer 40K crossover! :P For the Endwalker = Sailor Moon video, have Emet throw an Elips flower instead of a rose. It's right there! :D I think that'd be a great 1st April project.

There is no war in Tuliyollal.

Havent seen Sailor Moon nor do I know which ones, the oldest or newer ones that are being compared to Endwalker, but I have seen Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and from the spaceship flight up to defeating Endsinger is straight out of the final episodes of TTGL

GG!!!!! PREACH!!!! OKAYMAGE!!!! JC!!!!!!!! ♥♥♥

The digital preservation and facade theory matches with the plot of FF9 (which this expansion is heavily inspired from) which was all about an elder race preserving themselves in an ark and manipulating the people to kill themselves so they can all be revived and take the world.

43:53 Twinning!

My outstanding question for plot is Gelmorea, its been since 1.0

1:47:07 Kyle Savage.

1:47:00 I can't follow this logic. What? I'm with Jesse.. xD

Solution 9 is the TVA XD

Ah yes asking yoshi p about the financial furniture of ffxiv

Does anyone in their right minds run a FFXIV dungeon before there's a MTQcapture video for it? MTQcapture is definitely "first in, last out"!

I love puzzle solving dungeons played a lot of Zelda and Dungeons and Dragons Online MMO back in the day and having multiple routes, puzzles and secrets to find making variant dungeons the best kind of dungeon

Dear Garrett/Kyle, can we request a timeline tagging for the Launch trailer viewing/discussion, since a lot of us want to avoid it until release? Much appreciated

I'm with Kyle. It's Westworld.

Wow this is more hilarious than expected.

2:38:30 no i meant my desire to see GG do a full kh playthrough! >.

suggestion: next time you guys do a roundtable/podcast like this, always reserve a "square" for a browser screen. so you can load up videos with ease, or screenshots or articles, or even art or pictures. it's an easy way for watchers to know what the "supposed" topic on-hand is about, and could easily give the panel a focus on what to cook about. so no future mid podcast obs re-tooling.

1:00:34 - solution 9 talk

If you had to kill one of the twins… Alphinaud. I love him but Alisae is clearly a character who deals with anger a lot, and it migh5 actually make for an interesting arc if we dealt with Alisae going down some sort of vengeance path. As for Alphie’s character development… idk man I feel like we’ve had fully developed Alphinaud for a while. I’d bawl though. 2:10:33

shadowbringers is technically an isekai if you think about it

Alphinaud is totally done for. Why else do you think Colin Ryan started streaming, and all his Friends are like "I really want to do it to, but you know, I have to work instead".

More like Fantasy Island than Tron

51:17 blm mains watching yoshi-P play be like XD

Hi

Ff8 is indeed my favorite

Obligatory I fuckin love Preach.

Unukalhai is the name of a star, also known as α Serpentis. The name Unukalhai was borrowed from عنق الحيّة (ʽunuq al-ḥayyah, the seroebt's neck)

X-2 IS awesome with the job system - BUT Preach is gonna HATE it because of the unskippable cinematic that goes with it. Jus sayin

Garrett is 1000% correct about the city leaders. I'm so exhausted by Ul'dah stories.

Oh God! Preach's hypothesis of Tulliyolal being the fake landscape and being the simulation instade of the golden city and everything vanishing leaving a desolate landscape mid-game is MIND BLOWING! Let's see how the game subverts my expectations with this idea in my mind, haha.

With that Solution 9 theory with the digital world, i'm pretty sure it's not for nothing that the new class is a nod to Sword Art Online as Kirito

Unukalhai is a literal star, bros! Visible in the sky and fairly close to the solar system. It's an Arabic name like many major stars. Aldebaran and Alnilam being the major examples.

im glad guests were here to tell them its fine to watch the launch trailer, chat gets way too cringey about spoiler guarding some times.

I really want the Final or 2nd last Expansion to take on Alisaie or Alphinaud as the villain. There's so much potential for either of them to have a brilliant / gut-wrenching story for their own reasons. Either Alphinaud dies and Alisaie flows into a Rage Or Alphinaud turns and Alisaie has to stop him.