Yes. Emil is very accomplished. At destroying lore, ruining franchises, and writing nonsense.

"this meal tastes like shit". "Oh, well you must be a 5 star chef then." I don't have to work as a dev to tell if a game is outdated doesnt function or is boring the same way i dont need to be a 5 star chef to tell someone a meal is awesome. You put something out and charged people money for it, it is subject to fair and deserved criticism.

Wow! I suddenly like Starfield now. Knowing the devs had a hard time made the dialogue good, fast traveling everywhere not annoying, and the storyline compelling.

The general problem with Starfield is the things NPCs asked you to do would only make sense in a medieval setting. Those "talk to [person]" quests where you travel to another planet, talk to [person], then travel back to the 1st planet, would only make sense in a future where phones somehow don't exist.

Considering Emil doesnt want to use any sort of game design document, I dont think he fully understands game development. No wonder it took so long to make Starfield and is such a disconnected mess.

I'm sure it's hard to make a game. It was hard to make Elden Ring, Baldurs Gate 3, Dragon Age Origins. But EMS is also a hard job. Being an engineer while you're on deployment and the ship is rocking back and forth is a hard job. Everyone has a hard job. That's life. The consumer does not care how hard someone's job is. I think Asmongold put it best when he said something to the effect of (not a direct quote) it doesn't matter if there's someone in 100 degree weather doing road work, if there's a bump in the road then it needs to get fixed. (Ok...if you're a Starfield fanboy please don't read any further cause you're gonna get mad). Emil is also a terrible writer. I would rather listen to the Twilight audiobook than listen to Starfields dialogue. Stardew Valley has more character depth than the ones in Starfield and it was made by one dude who taught himself everything. Emil is someone whose ego got hurt. He can't take criticism because he's been surrounded by people who just bow down to him and Bethesda keeps promoting him. Dude needs to be fired or retire. I loved FO4 despite it's writing, and I kept hearing about how if you love FO4 you'll love Starfield. But IMO that's not true. Starfield is so boring, I'd rather play FO4. Heck, I'd rather play Morrowind.

And truth be told, I feel like Luke here plays too strongly to the logical part of Emil's statements. YES. There will be technological limitations. YES. It is important to understand why certain things came to be in order to informatively critique them. But it doesn't matter how far back certain choices were made that effect gameplay, MISTAKES ARE STILL MISTAKES!!! Like, he completely sidesteps the whole Twinkie analogy, and as so many of these funnier and more articulate commentors below have stated, "Yeah, I can't seamlessly recreate a twinkie, but I sure as !@#$ am able to tell when a twinkie tastes bad." And the fact is, Emil being a director doesn't make his statements righteous but misinterpreted due to his position. The fact that he's a game director DOES completely change the way these statements SHOULD be interpereted. If it was some ordinary dude who said all of this, than it would be a twitter thread advocating for thorough research and informative criticism. But because it is Emil, Starfield's Writer (for those who don't know, Starfield's story SUCKS), this is absolutely a twitter thread that exists solely to stroke Emil's ego and make self-justified excuses for why his objectively bad choices should not be questioned by the lowly worms who are "funny that they think they know what game development is like".

Once you pay $70 for a game, you are allowed to critique it. Once something is sold (whether it’s a toaster, a car, or an album) it is subject to review by the buyer.

Making Elden ring was probably hard too and that game is awesome

I can’t make a pizza from scratch (making the raw dough) but I can tell you when one tastes like shit

Considering that Starfields biggest problems are fundamental design flaws and mismanagement with the game's direction, it's safe to assume that Emil is the one that failed at his job. He's the guy who follows the "keep it simple, stupid" philosophy and he has been criticized for bad writing and design choices for ages. Instead of taking accountability and admitting that he messed up, he goes on to write an essay of a twitter rant, blaming the consumers and complaining about how hard his job is. One is definitely disconnected from reality and it's certainly not the critics.

It’s a ridiculous argument. It’s like saying “If you can’t fully disassemble and then reassemble components to make a car, then you CAN’T tell when you’re driving a piece of shit.” Don’t need to be a mechanic to know I’m driving a POS Emil.

It would be fine is a normal dev wrote this. But this guy is the LEADER (I must emphasize, the leader) of the story telling in starfield. All the people who wrote starfield were under this guy, and it's his fault the story in this game is embarrassingly bad for what is considered a story game

All of what he wrote is true. I 100% agree with him. Those are definitely the challenges and issues faced when making a game like this. But EVERY developer faces those challenges. That doesn’t change the fact that they made a very meh (not horrible, just meh) game, when other developers facing the same challenges made a BG3, for example.

"We had a hard time making all these bad decisions, feel bad for us"

If memory serves there was a sort of TED Talk by the main writer. He basically said they don't use a game design document since Fallout 3. If you don't know what that is, it's basically a blueprint for how the game should be made. The basic equivalent is like an architect trying to make a building without said blueprint... Let that sink in

All Emil is doing here is shifting blame and gaslighting the customers. With such an inability to accept their own failings and problems, as single dev and studio, and solve them during the development process it does not surprise me that they could not create and release a good product.

He has some point's, but why should i care how hard it is at the end of the day i'm paying for it so i will call out bad stuff when i see it. Yet again another bad PR move by someone at beth, i wonder how hard the beth faithful are gonna defend this one.

Emil is such a bad writer even his strawman metaphors are awful. Twinkies? Out of everything on Earth you pick Twinkies? The most manufactured, artificial, food-adjacent cream-filled objects ever made.

For Todd Howard and Emil Pagliarulo - here is a quick answer for your frustrations and problems Baldur's Gate 3 So please, for the love of God, at least have some dignity, decency and modesty, shut up, learn from this developer, learn from your mistakes and deliver better experience with new Skyrim game.

Life and work is difficult. An adult complaining that it's difficult sounds too stupid. No sh!t Sherlock. Sure, doxxers and harrasers suck. But "you not game dev, you opinion stupid", is the dumbest view from a supposed "talented game dev".

It took Todd 7 years "To find the Fun in Starfield". Sooo... should I come back in 6 years years?

It’s pretty crazy that I never see Miyazaki or anyone at FromSoft typing out a bunch of bullshit excuses on reddit or twitter.

We're bending backwards here to marvel at achievements that's so ubiquitous a thirteen-year-old does it today on his laptop. I find the post so telling. This is exactly what it means to be out of touch - despite any good intentions - you can only see your job and not the purpose of the product. This guy does not come off as a gamer; he doesn't sit down and find joy in the same things the players do, so he doesn't know either how someone that enjoys modern games will read his post OR how they will receive a Bethesda game.

I literally just finished PatricianTV's 8 hour dissertation on Starfield. I like Starfield, but it's tough to argue his points. Hopefully Bethesda learns a few lessons for TES-VI

In response to "its a marvel it even works": Just because a bad movie had a development hell behind the screen doesn't make it any less of a bad movie, same thing for gaming. We need to stop listening to the excuses companies are giving and not give Bethesda a free pass just because its Bethesda, as it permeates the trend of gaming companies not finishing games upon release and fixing it over a couple of years. Starfield is clearly not $70 standard and that's fine, but they shouldn't act like it is.

I guess I can empathize that creating games is an incredible marvel of technology. We can also acknowledge some companies do it with fewer bugs, better gameplay, and without going negative on their player base.

It doesn't matter how hard it is to build a car, at the end of the day it has to be able to drive well.

He just outlines how any team project works. Look at bridges and any other software. Congrats my dude, building things is hard…. No shit, but when the user does not like what you made that’s all matters at the end…

I don't make twinkies either, but if it was a fancy package with garbage inside, I would still complain regardless of how hard it was to make. Likely I would question why they had chosen to fill it with garbage after there previous twinkies had a sweet sugary filling.

If an engineer builds a bridge and it falls down, can he say, "But you don't know how hard it was!!! You've never built a bridge and you didn't even pay for it" The Resources Tod and Bethesda had are in proportion to what they promised they'd deliver.

How are people that like Bethesda still okay with them having modders fix their games?

He is crying "I worked so hard, so you have to like it!! You can't say anything bad!

I have no faith that Bethesda could make Starfield worth playing (to me) even if they poured all of their blood, sweat, and tears into it. They simply don't have the talent or vision. That being said, they still provide a seemingly endless supply of free entertainment through the act of constantly embarrassing themselves in front of the entire internet. Absolute laughingstock clown company.

I 100% disagree with Emil. Why do we need to be reminded of the technical prowess needed to make games? This is like Nvidia releasing a poorly performing GPU and then pushes back and tries to remind us about about the technical "difficulties of making circuit boards. I DON'T CARE! Someone who has chosen to work in a given industry does not get to make excuses for producing a product that lacks behind expectations. This is ludicrous to me. Game developers all over complain about how difficult it is to make games. Boo-hoo. I DON'T CARE. They have chosen to have careers in game development. What I am expecting is value for the money I spend on a product. And in 2023, if a AAA game is cobbled together as if it is done by an Indie studio, built on decades old, outdated technology....sorry, but I just can't accept something like that. Bethesda failed miserably to produce a "next-gen" game even though they boast about their technological advancements making Starfield. This is complete nonsense and they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Limitations arguments have its limites! And Starfield is one of these games that can't be forgiven!

If this is the attitude of the developers towards the customer, as civil and intelligent as it may be, I have no hope for Starfield and Bethesda. Don't say anything. Just apologize and fix the problem if possible! I can only imagine how much worse TES6 will be.

I'm pretty sure Emil has never had to put a central IV line into a patient or do an hour of CPR. If I mess either of those things up should I just tell him "you don't know how hard being a paramedic is, be grateful I even did it in the first place"? I will forever hate this line of thinking. You don't have to be a mechanic to criticize cars. You don't have to be a cook to criticize food. And you don't have to be a game dev to criticize game design.

Modding is about enhancing or changing a game that's already great on its own. It is not about taking an underperforming game and working on it to help the dev get more sales. Bethesda has a great modding community that has kept their games active, but they started with a good game.

You dont get to tell the customer they cant complain or criticize a product for any reason, thats it period especially when your product is being charged at the highest premium price

The Patrician 8 hour criticism of starfield is the real cause of emil gaslighting tweets. He just didn’t like someone pointing out the failures and shortcomings of starfield

Emil as a lead writer/designer has been the center of criticism for years, any TES/ Fallout fan knows his the worst writer at Bethesda. Because the old games sold millions of copies everything was swept under the rug. Bethesda and Emil especially is out of touch and clearly don't listen the fans or their criticisms, the moment their new game with the same issues since Fallout fucking 3 is getting criticized and they think they won't be able to sell and re sell it for the next ten years. Emil, out of all people, comes out and tries to argue with fans. He has no right to argue, since they absolutely didn't listen to anything the fans said, instead they opted for the working formula of Fallout 4 and Skyrim, a grindy slop with awful story and quest, even more shallow RPG and serviceable shooting. I'm sure there was a meeting where Emil and Todd said " The fans already bought Skyrim and Fallout 10 times, why should we improve on the formula? They will eat it again". That's just insulting to every Bethesda fan.

It's really messed up to charge $70 for bad product and even more so when you try to shame your customers afterwards.

7/10 is still too high. What mechanics in this game are 7/10 quality? I get wanting to be fair but... the game shipped without city maps.

"You should be thankful this game even exists!" No, I'll instead be thankful for the hundreds of other games that do so much more with so much less. I can't cook, but I can tell if a chicken wing is raw. I don't make games, but I can point out if Morrowind from 22 years ago had better melee combat than Starfield. And that's the least of its problems. I don't intend to sound as harsh as I probably will, but I'm not getting gaslit into feeling bad for failures on top of failures on top of failures.

As an engine and game dev I completely understand his position. This is why I'm never comfortable being very critical of almost any game, unless they are obviously a lazy cash grab, asset flip etc. But that's just because of my background. I think people 100% are entitled to and should criticize games for what they are, especially when they pay good money for it. I can criticize a movie I watch, even though I've never made a huge movie before in my life, I still can have an opinion on the end result. The whole death threats etc towards the developers is just something that boggles my mind. Apart from it being completely uncalled for an absurd in the first place, people should realize, that especially in AAA, a programmer or artist for that matter are just given a feature or asset that they are in charge of making, often from a spec or a concept. They are not responsible for the game as a whole.

"You can criticize the game, especially if you paid for it." So sick of Game Pass being used to deflect criticism. It's had *such* a negative impact on the industry.

Emil's "philosophy" for writing is "keep it simple STUPID". So there you have it - why FO3 and FO4 stories are the way they are, Skyrim factions are... like meh (civil war especially).

I feel like Cyberpunk was this golden statue covered in an insane amount of dirt and mud. They took the time to deep clean it, and now we are left with a beautiful work of art. Starfield, on the other hand, is just like trying to polish a turd. The game at its core is just bad. At the end of the day, they can clean it up as much as possible, putting a bow on it to top it off, and its still just gonna be a turd... a well polished turd. Bad UI, no local map, bad writing, poor quest design, boring space, and planets decimated by loading screen hell, average gunplay, crap melee, slow boring traversal, limited copy paste content, fast travel simulator. If they use the excuse that the game has to do too much to generate and run everything that they have made, then they need to change the engine. Everyone knew it was time to let it go a long time ago, and when you have source code in Skyrim that you can also find in Morrowind, then there's a problem. I am aware that some companies use old ass engines that are revamped for modern games but the big difference is that Bethesda would have to take the time to rip the Creation Enginge or "Gamebrio Engine" apart and rebuild it from the ground up. The foundation was built poorly, and now they are building upon that foundation using super glue and duct tape. Modders themselves have said that the engine is pretty shit to work with. Most of us know that it takes only the slightest gust of wind to break it. To conclude if one of your top modders who i would say is a developer in a sense quits, then you know you fucked up.

mans wrote all that but i bet if they used a game design document he wouldn't have had put those tweets out.

If any of the old Skyrim dev's came out and said Emil took credit for their ideas I would not be surprised or second guess them tbh.

I AM VERY VERY AFRAID FOR ELDER SCROLLS 6. Because based on these responses I don't think they are willing to listen to community feedback. Lower your expectations folks.

To be honest I would prefer even one planet that is well made than all these100000 planets that offer nothing.

To me, the first question a big studio should ask themself before creating a game is: What are the games in that genre? Are we able to create something better or new, something that will push the genre further. Will we be able to give players a never seen before experience? And no mather the studio, if they are answering no to one of those questions, they should not start making that game at all. I never understood the reason behind studio wanting to create a worst version of what already exist on the market. Like The day before, a million other zombie games online so who care about the day before.... anyway thats my opinion.

Issues with his statements are: yes it is hard to make games. Yes it is a marvel. Yes many gamers dont know how games are made. BUT those gamers do have comparisons. If another product is better in quality and sold at a lower price, there are questions to be asked. His game does not exist in a vacuum. Secondly: if there are bugs, i understand. Performance issues, sure. Things that dont work out in reality, can happen. But a good indicator for talent and a base line of quality is dialogue. Dialogue is cheap. Everyone can write dialogue. You dont have to study to write good dialogue. There are tons of redditors that come up with well written stories. If your in game dialogue is not believeable, not witty, not funny, not deep, not nuanced, not varied. Thats an indicator for lack of care and talent and quality.

We're not allowed to criticize games now because they're "so hard to develop"? What a joke.

This guy's post is fine and understandable. It doesn't change the fact that there are dozens and dozens of games that made smarter choices and resulted in a better end product. And some of these came out a decade ago. So it's just baffling how certain decisions at Bethesda are getting approved in the first place.

If we are to use the food analogy - think of games as meals delivered by the studios. Some are burger and fries, some are pizzas, some are sandwiches, some are just chips and some are 3 course silver service with wine in crystal glasses. The food delivered by bethesda is white bread. Just bread. It's edible but completely boring without additions from modders. It is dry white bread without the modders adding the peanut butter and jam, or mayo, tomato slices, bacon and cheese.

starfield isn't a story about how hard game development being hard, it's a story about what happens when a dev studio becomes complacent. is it game development hard? sure, but so is every other form of art. but when not one but two indie studios (larian for the deep rich player driven rpg side, and hello games for the space exploration side) run laps around a studio that has thousands of devs. makes "game development is hard" sound more like whining then anything else. especially when you complain that your audience "doesn't get how hard my job is" instead of saying "yeah we fucked up, it's a smelly turd we obviously bit off more then we could and made some bad decisions and it hurt the over all product, all we can do is learn and do better next time." sounds a lot better then bitching about criticism and people not bending over backwards to praise you.

It's just another example of Bethesda over hyping, over promising and under delivering. No different then anything else they put out, its no different then FO76's "16x the detail."

“Game development is haaaaard”

Every game dev has hell to go through to get a game made, let alone make a good game, and have to concede their dreams of perfection to bring something to reality. Fine. True. The problem with Starfield, is that the devs seem to have conceded things that should be prioritized, and prioritized things that should have been conceded. Id take a 3 planet game with a few moons, one space station, Fallout 4 graphics, and a 30 hour questline over what we got any day of the week, as long as the story made sense, the game ran well, npcs were interesting characters, there were a rover to ride, free space flight and exploration, and there were no load screens. Heck even half the loadscreens. The priorities of convenience, variety, immersion, and fun were left out of the game, apparently in lieu of 1,000 planets to explore.

He's totally out of touch. If Bethesda, Todd, early access reviewers and influencers didn't lie about a $70 game people wouldn't react as harshly to how bad it was. Him making that post is just more cope for the fire. They asked for all the hate they're getting, why complain now?

I know they said that they're going to add more modes of transport, but if they just want to avoid doing the work required to do so, I honestly would be okay if they just made jetpacks have better and faster propulsion and also make them work continuously instead of just doing steam engine toots. Basically, just turn it into a real jetpack with infinite boost and any differences between jetpacks will be its ability to be used on planets of higher gravity.

I 100% believe that if the world building, characters and overall story was better Starfield would be in an OK position. Still not game of the year, still not critically acclaimed - but in an OK position. I say this because all the flaws on delivery and lack of important features would be predominantly fixed by insanely dedicated modders. I am concerned however that this won't happen because these modders just aren't in love with the universe that is Starfield. Not good team...

There's no excuses for 10 years of work and $100,000,000 spent. Hell, in 10 years you could probably pull some random stranger off the street and teach them game development from the ground up and still get better results.

A main thing that I started to implement as a developer working on games is this: "Designers/managers/whomever that does not do any actual implementation or production of assets cannot under any circumstance use the following words: "Can't we just", "Can we just", "How about the just". Basically banning the idea that things are simple all the time and easy to implement and they don't take much time at all. 1. This helps that grasp the idea that they have to be more thoughtful of the idea's they present and think about the choices they make before even asking for features. 2. It helps me keep my sanity.

You know what? I take back everything I said about games like The Day Before and Mighty Number 9. Making games is hard you guys.

So you're ok with mediocrely, because all I hear is excuses. Remember when devs were jealous, attacking Elden Ring and Baldur Gate 3 this year. It was too good.

This Emil guy is part of thr problem at bugthesda.

It’s crazy that Luke thinks any of us here consider Bethesda a serious studio in 2024. This studio has been dead for a long time.

They didnt even bother to think of a star trek teleporter as a fast travel method if they wanted to be even more lazier. At least it wouldve made things a little more immersive.

Oh, yes! Let's talk about respect. It's a two way street you know. So what about the respect Devs/Pubs have for the time their customers spend to earn the money to buy their game? What about the respect for the money spent by their customers on their game? Ok we're not game dev professionals, but we ARE game players. How about respect for our experience we have playing your game?

Starfield is not CLOSE to a 7/10. The game sucks. It is a 4 at best. It's hardly worth playing for free.

What was the goal of this post? I can't see how posting a thread like this to twitter was going to do anything other than inflame the existing Starfield discontent. Sometimes the best PR move is to just take the criticism on the chin and say nothing.

He is number 2 behind Todd basically... He shouldn't have said anything. Much like the guy who said BG3 shouldn't be a raised standard They both had foot in mouth disease. Starfield was suppose to be like Skyrim. be beloved. Be screwed up with creation club junk.Covered up with player mods. Made for every device out there and sell a ton even 10 years later. That won't happen and I expect Phil Spencer will be upset. Whether he might consider forcing change in Beth remains to be seen though.

He's just mad people are bashing his mediocre work.

Nobody’s really going to care how much effort your team put into something if that something still ends up turning out bad. Also it’s hard to look at something like say, the procedural-generated planets and think that this is the product of a lot of hard work on par with traditional handcrafted content.

I think the point he was actually trying to make is that gamers tends to act like they know why some decisions were made. Like "they did that because they're lazy and they want modders to do the work" or "it's not in the game because it was cut for the future paid dlc", where in reality those decisions may have very different reasons - technical or economical. And he said: you can dislike the game, but just don't make assumptions when you don't have the knowledge.

The biggest problem in this debate is that Bethesda and other developers does not know/want to accept that GAMERS THEMSELF often got more and more knowledge about how game got developed, especially with all the recent dramas. And especially in case of Bethesda titles - how old is fanbase and how much its memebers know about good/bad sides of them.

@lukestephenslive Normally, I agree with you and am more on the side of forgiving devs, your rant at 10:18 about a game being a technical marvel is a bad strawman. Engines aren't devs. Devs aren't the ones doing the miraculous calculations. And while the dev's job is to make the content and formulas for those engines, it's still significantly easier than what you're making it sound like. They aren't coding in machine code. They aren't writing linear code, but have it done segmented with object oriented programming. No, devs, shouldn't be attacked because of bad decision making, but at the same time, they shouldn't be propped up for the miracles of basic object oriented design and accepting legacy code.

I think what he’s saying is a miracle is not a technical miracle, but the fact that a game gets shipped at all. Because outside of three or four game companies, everyone’s working on different things, not everyone knows the vision, and/or the vision has been changed two or three times in development. And again outside of those three or four companies that work like a well oiled machine, no one talks to each other.

"Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction." -Antoine de Saint-Exupéry I love this quote, and from the moment I heard about Starfield and its companion system, this feeling was what I imagined the story could offer. Not necessarily romantic love in the form of romance options, but the notion of looking outward together in the same direction. Stargazing on a cloudless night with a loved one. Waxing philosophical with a close friend. A team of scientists and engineers making childhood space fantasies real. Just sharing a feeling of awe with other beings. Even if these themes weren't present (I understand that games are not designed to cater to my own personal imagination, of course), I hoped that I could at least project them onto whatever this game had to offer. Instead, what I got was dead-eyed character models staring unblinkingly directly into my eyes and talking about some pointless space-politics crap while an off-screen companion was waiting in the wings to judge my bland response. I got archetypal factions with shallow lore and goody-two-shoes companions that were more interested in floaty rocks than they were about space exploration. I got black hole loading screens and space debris inventories. Don't get me wrong, I've put days of my life into this game and found some enjoyment in it, but to say that it felt uninspired is an understatement. Everything, from the characters to the factions to the storylines, felt inward-looking, navel-gazing, and small-world-ish, when all I wanted was to feel like I was looking, and then journeying, outward together with these characters.

His response makes me hate it more.

I do not care about him whining on twitter, calling fans disconnected about a game that has same problems that are from like 2004. It’s fucking 2022, every fucking game studio face problems making video games and yet somehow still make better games than starfield. He’s just butt hurt that people are not eating up the game and calling 10 out of 10. Just because people are not making video games like him, do not mean they can’t criticize a game they are paying their hard earn money on.

As a person working in the creative (and marketing) industry, his statements are infuriating. Insulting your customers because you’re shit at your job is the lowest you can get.

Shouldn't release a subpar game, then ask people to appreciate that you're behind in your field. Imagine if one of your friends was always late, and when you said "hey, when we agree to meet, I'd appreciate you getting here when you say you will", and his answer is - "Do you have any idea how complicated the human body is, and what goes into even taking one step, nevermind driving a car???" Nope, not cool.

One thing I’ve learned as a programmer, who dibbles and dabbles in game development as a hobby, I will not shit on a product unless it’s clear as day they don’t give a shit about what they release and take advantage of players.

It's funny to complain about how difficult it is to make games, when much of that difficulty is created by the way Bethesda works (or rather, doesn't work).

He is shifting blames from his failure as a designer and a writer. He's like Pete Hines 2.0. How is it our fault they made a game in 2023 that looks outdated by a decade? How is it our fault as players that BGS overpromised and underdelivered? How is it our fault Emil sucks at writing? BGS has completely lost their touch with their community driven by greed & outdated visions. It's not the first time they have lashed out on their community. He should remember, they set expectations for their player-base and failed to deliver. No one pulled them by the tongue to brag about 1000 planets (which btw was an immediate red flag for me) that are not even in the game. They have no one, but themselves to blame for setting limitations upon themselves by using ancient tech for an engine instead of shifting to smth else. Even CDPR has made the decision to dump their OG RED Engine. Whoever is at the helm of it all at BGS is to blame for how mediocre Starfield is. Truth is, and they should probably recognize it themselves - people like Todd, Emil and whoever else responsible for creative decisions have outlived their "innovative" visions circa a decade and a half ago. Either they need to re-evaluate their creative thinking or follow Petey's footsteps and yield the spot to someone younger and more in tune with modern gaming. Blaming the gamers for your own missteps is never a good look or decision. Admit you screwed up, apologize and say you will do better and DO BETTER (tldr, take examples from FF14 dev team). People already are losing hope and interest in TES6, if the BGS "leaders" don't stop these responses, they will nuke any and all good will that has remained with heir dwindling community.

If I get a twinkie that has no filling or the machines accidentally forgot sugar I cant complain Emil?....ok man...

I don’t think people are complaining that starfield didn’t meet all their expectations. They’re complaining that the game isn’t that fun or the exploration is laughably 2014

I like how there is are visual pauses, or " load screens" within his post.

So, in summary, if you go to a restaurant, you have to enjoy the food you get. You are only allowed to complain when you are a pro chef, but in this case, you would not because of professional courtesy

What people usually don’t get is that devs are trying to make diamonds with sticks and stones. Especially in companies like Bethesda and Ubisoft. The problem itself in the end is that the company wants to keep using old tech to have more profit margin. And they will do that until they actually lose massive money or get their image tarnished like this. So they will force devs to use the same formula of game, just work on improving the engine rather than do a whole wipe and improve from bottom up and rather have seniors leave the company than pay the extra especially when they’re dealt with a lot of crap for years.

Its not rocket science. When you buy a product (games, whatever) we as consumers have every right to complain about said product if it doesn't meet requirements or level of quality. Plus we don't have to care one bit about how the product got made or the why or whatever. We don't care. Bottom line your product (Starfield) wasn't good. Period. Deal with it. Casting blame around just makes you look bad, while you should be working on fixing the bad product. The level of arrogance, greed, throwing blame around when things aren't going your way etc etc these AAA companies have is beyond me.

It's like yea I can't piss, but I can damn sure tell when pee is in my mouth

Isn’t Emil the reason BGS storytelling has gotten so bad? I remembered people saying he’s the whole reason FO4 went with the dialogue wheel

People are allowed to criticize things, especially things they pay for. If you can’t handle negative feedback, that’s on you. Naughty Dog probably has safe space closets in their office. People are so weak and soft

Whats crazy to me is that the game runs like it has full RT light pathing enabled, but it has no such thing running. It just runs like absolute crap on high end systems.