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That's probably the usual effect, just done slower

@@nathanielhill8156 Usually, the stargate is a flat disc after it shoots out the first time, but in this case it's a vortex due to how strong the gravity on the other side is, which is why they had the camera pan down

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yes very scary and Gen.Hammond's later remark was "We'll install a TRINIUM iris" wouldn't have done much good

@@RonaldVaughan If that had been a normal steel iris, it would have buckled under the pressure much much earlier. A few hundred G-Forces would have been exerted on that Trinium iris. I'm amazed it held as well as it did.

The original was Titanium

Good point. A particular peeve of mine in most movies, etc. Finally, this time, there is a reason.

The way the second line was delivered makes me feel like it was adlibbed. The comedic touch was fantastic.

@@RB-ic4du From what has been said by the actors, a lot of the dialogue in the show was. At least a lot of the Jack/Daniel dialogue

This was THE coolest episode.

The real anemy is spelling

@@lordwinton Want some fries with all that salt?

@@lordwinton what's your problem

@@michaelesposito2629 Thanks for pointing that out, now I feel anemic.

Its to see if theyre in shock

PEARL - Pupils Equal and Reactive to Light. It's part of any patient assessment sequence to check basic neurological functions, especially after trauma

@@jakeg3733 lol, no. The thing she normally does with that little hand-held light, that's what you're describing. I was talking about the giant light that was shining in his face for no reason other than to make scenes seem to blend together.

She’s checking for head/nerve trauma

I agree.... experiments like this is one terrifying scenario

Black holes terrify me and man this is probably the only situation that would make me complain about the stargate program.

Here's a question What happened to the wormhole? Cus they disconnected it and connected it to another gate, right? So that means some other fucking planet thats reasonably close to earth with their stargate is now hooked up to a black hole for no apparent reason

@@moritamikamikara3879 yeah that part made no sense. Because as we know, abydos is the closest gate in the network to earth so I'm confused how the wormhole didn't connect there

@@JC19171 At that point in time, Abydos' gate was still buried. Daniel had told them to bury it for one year and to await his return. Thus, the wormhole could not connect and thus went to the next closest gate in the network.

Lol after 10 months you come back and comment again

He could be commenting from a black hole

DorohnL maybe the asgard or fifth used a time dilation device?

And no one even acknowledges him afterward. Even in disclosure, Hammond says Jack risked his life. Like did Cromwell die only to be forgotten completely?

"Captain, relativity gives me a headache"

General Hammond > General Relativity

Well, this one time it was actually the ancient's fault. They forgot to check for time dilation and throw an exception...

@@demoniack81 Hehe, true.

@@demoniack81 this might’ve been avoided if there was a DHD on both sides, noticing a significant time difference and extreme energy to the gate and forcing a shutdown.

Eh, I guess it's possible that the receiving gate actually threw the appropriate error but Sam's computer ignored it and forced the connection to open anyway. IIRC the receiving gate cannot stop an incoming wormhole under any circumstance, so it's plausible.

Sadly, most of the time novels aren’t canon.

Which one? 😊

how they would hyave been ripped to shreds

@@Revkor I had only read the synopsis of the novel, but from our perspective time has all but stopped for SG-10. They rescued them by SG-1 acquiring a space ship which is completely resistant to the effects of the black hole, so they fly there to the planet, right to the stargate. Sg-10 seeing this, got nothing tho loose, they ran immidiately to the ship. All but one of the them is rescued and returned home safely. Overall, while for them it was only minutes, Sg-10 was trapped for 5 years. It wasn't easy for them, or their families but they menaged to get back things on track. In later seasons of Sg-1, Sg-10 is mentioned two or three times, being on a mission or something like that.

I liked his character and even now, his character is still not dead... time slows .... and he might not die but being Stargate could Ascend, transform, or be saved by giant self-aware robot ships that travel through black holes on a regular basis, and use their infinite improbability drive to pick him up as a hitchhiker. :-)

18thletter, you should know he might not so much be ripped apart as he could be compressed (squished) into a very tiny space. Though, he could be stretched very far (perhaps even miles or more) prior to reaching the center of that black hole. Interesting to think about, but not a nice way to go.

@@SeaJay_Oceans Only if the hitch hiker has his towel!

@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 But of course ! :-D and ... a fine cup of tea...

I think they did as well as they could. Sure in this scene they should probably weigh like half a ton or something, but they do excuse it away by saying that because of the stargate, the time dilation expands further than the gravitational effect that cause the time dilation

One of the best Stargate comments

He had that Jaffa Rage mode going, you just couldn't tell.

What episode was that??????

@@Latinofire202 It was actually two books, "The cost of honor" and one more that I dont remember.

I always wondered what those guys experienced when Carter shot a literal sun through the stargate. And the fact that they didn't even mention those guys stuck on the other side in the episode, I was like "so you're just going to incinerate the SG team that's stuck there!?"

@@crimsonninja6995 Instant incineration is probably preferable to being slowly pulled apart by a black hole.

Indeed

well yeah walking up to the stargate with it having gravity that pulls you in and not affecting carter in the slightest but oh well no ones perfect🤣

@@raven4k998 My biggest note is that they wouldn't have had 1 guy secure the ropes on two other men like that. it would have been at least 1 man per rope, maybe 2 or more.

I mean he would still die in minutes from his perspective so it is not as horrifying as you think, just a last few interesting moments. XD

"longer than you think" "longer than you thiinnk"

Actually, they later saved them in one book, after aquiring technology that allowed them to approach black hole without being influenced by relativistic effects.

@eviltreemonster If I remember correctly, they indeed saved him and SG-10, but the technology they used stopped working when they tried to save them. Because of this, they were gone for a few months to the outside worlds.

ShepardCZ sure as shit didn’t save Cromwell tho

Wasn't that the episode where Earth got stuck in a time loop and were reliving the same day for three months? The Tok'ra were trying to contact Earth but were unable to

@@Taker6532 ya... something about a time loop bubble ... not sure what defines the diameter of a time loop bubble, but it seemed to trap the whole SOL system. That would be interesting, powerful, and dangerous technology to perfect...: Lining up planets orbits so travel is easier, or playing pool with planets, fun stuff...

air force not army Not a whole lot of planning could happen, shit was escalating fast Remote detonators were affected by time dialation two people was redundancy Also it was more tense narratively for two people

Because if one gets sucked in the other can complete the mission. It'd be too late to send another person as the time dilation would prevent them from getting close to the bomb in time.

Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.

That IS the premise to the episode yes, well done.

The stargate in the episode isn`t that close to the black hole actually, the time dilation and gravitational pull was minor.

Wasn't there a novel continuation of this episode where they figured out how to save everyone who was still stuck on the planet the gate was connected to? If so i'm assuming he was probably fine.

there would not have been an increase in these effects to begin with. the star just turned into a black hole. it did not suddenly increase several magnitudes in mass. (it's the mass that causes the gravity and thus time dilation. not a magical propperty of a blackhole. it just shrunk a ton. nothing else.

Nope, he wasn't. SG-1 got their hands on a Tel'tak shielded against time dilation and mounted a rescue mission; by that time, the planet was inside the black hole's event horizon and time dilation was so severe that Cromwell hasn't arrived yet. Problem is, this was the same planet Carter used to blow up that star back in the day and SG-10 was only alive because the plasma from that star hasn't arrived yet due to time dilation; when it finally did, it incinerated the entire planet and killed one of the members of SG-10 who didn't get inside the ship in time. The whole mission took five months in real time. If Cromwell ever comes out of the gate, he'll end up in a ball of stellar plasma inside the black hole's event horizon and get incinerated into ash in hyper slow motion. He's as dead as he can get.

That's not quite how black holes work 🤨 He likely would just, well, die once him and the team are pulled out of the atmosphere of the disintegrating planet. Or, as Carter states in the episode, "their bodies will be pulled apart by increasing tidal forces."

Spaghettification is the correct term for that, eventually extruded to the width of one plank unit.

Apparently an old military buddy.....and in a situation like this,horsing around could get one killed....

The Nobel Sacrifice in the Line of Duty. Happening thousands of times a day in real life all over planet Earth, and probably more so on other planets and their species too... :-(

apparently in an unspecified book taking place later on down the line, they're able to save them from the doomed planet due to some tech that allows them to defy relativity.

@@Gogglesofkrome You don't know the name of the book do you?

@@pferreira1983 unfortunately not

The stargate was speeding up the time dilation

Its a wormhole being artificially stabilized.

Let's just enjoy the show! Let's not talk about how black holes don't suck everything in like a vacuum, but produce the same amount of gravity as a star of the same mass would. Nope, wouldn't want to ruin the episode!

Erik Cedergren umm. As explained in the show, the Stargate mechanics changes the effects of the black hole. We don’t really know how black holes or worm hiked would work. We do know how gravity/gforce/blood pressure works.

It's not exactly clear how many G's they are being subject to during this scene. I am inclined to believe that as close as they got, it might have been 5G's. With proper techniques, a person can maintain consciousness under a load of 5G's. If it was higher than that, nothing Teal'c could have done would help the winch pull O'Niell from the bomb.

Skyfighter64 sure. Not exactly clear. But pretty clear non the less. And this was sustained g’s. While they are talking and moving around way too easily. Did you see how fast that glass flew? Or the fact that the more than likely bullet proof glass, shattered? Or the titanium iris buckling? Or holding two grown men, perfectly horizontal WHILE being pulled? And no g suit going on. No, sorry. The g forces and it’s effects, were not presented accurately here. I can suspend my disbeliefs all day long, but I still like my science fiction to have some science in it, when you are describing things we know and understand already, in a universe where these things are supposed to work normal

That's why Teal'c is black :)

"Did you hear that? .............LOOK OUT!!"

@@RonaldVaughan well, if we're going off of the pseudo relativity of the series, physics would determine that wave forms approaching a black hole would be higher pitched and sound more like chirps than actual speech. In fact, the entire outside world would be sped up relative to their position.

The Aschen also got a taste of the same black hole. They wanted to make a follow up episode where the surviving Aschen takes Earth to space court and the Asgard are the judges. One of the producers, maybe Brad, said that they didn't have the budget for this episode.

15 to 20 years probably

At the end the monitor probably displayed the same frame for minutes if not hours

It did

they did add a safety but it is built into the dhd themselves and earth does not have one atm they instead use their own bastardized version

It does have such a safety feature - in the DHD. We see this earlier in the episode when SG-10 dials home; the gate shuts off immediately.

@@phil_the_cow ah ok, thanks for the info

@@lodgec7601 ah that makes sense, thanks for the info

Suspension of belief is great. Good episode much enjoyed.

Or pulling the pin of the bomb with another rope ;)

Hey guys, STOP IT!!!!

*Atlantis

@@jezeski2011 Look in the description. "- Written by Anonymous The rights to Stargate Atlanis are held by MGM"

@@TheGamingAlienTV They forgot the second 't' in Atlantis; please pay attention before replying.

​@@jezeski2011 Did you pay attention to MY comment before replying? Clearly you didn't. The person you replied to was making fun of "Admiral Titan Entertainment" because in the description of this video, THEY forgot the second 't' in Atlantis. Hence why i said "look in the description" and quoted their mistake. You obviously have trouble with reading comprehension because you should have realized that EsquilaxM commenting "The rights to Stargate Atlanis are held by MGM" makes no logical sense, even without the typo. For me it was very obvious that they must have been referencing something so i checked the description and it all made sense. Please use your brain before replying, Chris.

@@TheGamingAlienTV My reply to EsquilaxM was only directed at their spelling; NOTHING ELSE. All of the extra info you have wasted time typing to me is irrelevant, because I was already fully aware of Admiral Titan Entertainment's mistake in the description of this video.

Can't really claim it is inaccurate as this is complete BS because it's a TV show based in fiction. Plus how are we to know how in lore the gravity of a black hole is effected by a device that travels outside our dimension and acts as a portal? Or even how matter or energy reintegrates on the other side with an Iris there? You're claiming inaccuracy when in reality in this specific situation regarding a TV series and a fantasy device, there is no real answer.

But the Iris thing was forgivable since the rest of the episode was believable. Also, i can turn a blind eye on the Iris one because it makes sense closing it nonetheless, just to prevent everything from falling into the stargate prior to its destruction.

The Iris was only closed so nothing would go in?? It wasn't protecting them from the gravity

@@Jah_Coby the closed iris prevented the air to be sucked into the gate. when the iris collapsed the air suddenly got sucked creating first a blast of wind (as air pressure was increasing up to that moment) then a weaker but constant wind pushing them toward the gate.

You didn't watch the episode properly did you? The Stargate was creating a lensing effect that dampened the effects of the blackhole while creating a gradient vector field that extended from the Stargate. As Sam Carter stated, they were witnessing something that the laws of physics dictate that shouldn't be possible normally but it was possible through a random convergence of technology working in a way that it never has before. That and I suspect that the Ancients created multiple redundancies and safeties to keep the incoming/outgoing travelers safe...and I suspect it was those numerous safeties on the Stargate that was keeping the worst of the Blackhole's gravity in check.

Also, we still know next to nothing about wormholes or what interactions (if any) they would have with black holes.

dragonslair951167 in this case, the wormhole itself wasn't being fueled by the black hole, the Stargate was drawing energy from it and wouldn't shut down

" Not to mention it's sci-fi. When has sci-fi ever been super realistic? " Babylon 5

Well, it is Sci Fi - ultimately Fiction written in the frame of Science.... Science flavored fiction, for the sake of Drama. Does it matter if the hero defeats the dragon with his magic sword or defeats the aliens with his powerful battle cruiser, if he still 'gets the girl' ? This episode is a good balance of even when you 'win' it comes at a cost, terrible loss and success at the same time. Good Drama writing. I felt the worst for the guys running towards the gate - literally out of time to even get to it and dial back home to safety.

They are two separate phenomenon. And until he was part of SG-1, Wormholes were theoretical at best.

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim loll I know.. The point is that he did not know one, but was an expert on the other

Vlql Vlql well yeah. He loves astronomy. Black holes are kinda a big thing in astronomy and in the science community as a whole. Worm holes tho? No

That's O'Neill with 2 Ls. There's another O'Neil with one L. Has no sense of humor. Lol