STARGIRL & STARMAN - Complete History Explained! (Justice League Unlimited)

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In the DC Animated Universe, we got both Stargirl AND Starman. But how are they connected? What's their deal?
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@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
*not actually sponsored by Stan Berkowitz* P.S. Yes, Pat is her stepdad, not her uncle. Somehow, despite all of us here knowing that, I wrote “uncle” and it made it through several rounds of edits. Oops.
@macmay3042
@macmay3042 4 жыл бұрын
Feed the algorithm. All hail the datababe. Rough week, and hearing your syrupy voice wash over me is a balm to my soul. Speak more, gentle Aesir.
@ericservxn8063
@ericservxn8063 4 жыл бұрын
and did you notice in the last episode of Justice league unlimited she did not have her correct staff when she runs down the stairs
@ericservxn8063
@ericservxn8063 4 жыл бұрын
o and anybody peep S.T.R.I.P.E suit changed in between seasons
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Gilchrist Holy crap! I never noticed the staff thing. She’s totally holding a parademon scythe thing there at the end. So weird!
@travit666
@travit666 4 жыл бұрын
3:08 did you say Terry McGinnis????
@dennybecton
@dennybecton 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the Stargirl series rn, so seeing this was very nice!
@wolfgang6442
@wolfgang6442 4 жыл бұрын
Frs :)
@whiplash2k18
@whiplash2k18 3 жыл бұрын
I actually just finished watching the Stargirl series and was kinda looking for some Stargirl video clips and found this
@RetroBuck
@RetroBuck 4 жыл бұрын
Courtney started out wearing Sylvester Pemberton's cosmic converter belt, which he got from Ted Knight. She was using that a good two years or so before she got the cosmic staff from Jack Knight.
@dominicconner800
@dominicconner800 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they had more episodes with Stargirl I would have loved to see her dynamic with supergirl expanded on. When I was younger she was my third favorite character alongside John Stewart and black canary
@LelandMGrayer
@LelandMGrayer 2 жыл бұрын
Facts watching the series I'm not surprised dc gunked up but then that's why we have the series and a season two successfully
@inesatt1313
@inesatt1313 Жыл бұрын
Me too she was so sweet and sisterly towards Supergirl
@NoVideosFound0
@NoVideosFound0 4 жыл бұрын
" 'Terry Mcginnis'ed it. " 10 / 10
@DirigoDuke
@DirigoDuke 4 жыл бұрын
Crimson Avenger is probably depicted as being the oldest DCAU hero due to the fact that in comics he predates Batman, coming along a mere five months after Superman. He’s not DC's actual oldest hero, though. That honor would go to Doctor Occult, who debuted three years before the Man of Steel.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Physically oldest, is my presumption.
@JacobyJ56
@JacobyJ56 4 жыл бұрын
All they do is mock me When are we getting a Zeta Video?
@G2CondorJoe
@G2CondorJoe 4 жыл бұрын
Ted Knight also invented Star Spangled Kid's cosmic belt that was his original source of super powers.
@trontravolta379
@trontravolta379 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna need a whole Seven Soldiers of Victory video to explain the mess that is the DCAU's Vigilante and Shining Knight (and Winged Victory who is definitely a full member of the league)
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 9 ай бұрын
Now that's an inevitable gem.
@elijahblechman8633
@elijahblechman8633 4 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe those two very random superheroes from an episode of jlu got their own live action shows. Its easy to forget the history of these characters.
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de 4 жыл бұрын
Stargirl is pretty important in the comics, she's basically the face of the Justice Society and one of the main characters when Earth 2 is mentioned in comics
@wolfgang6442
@wolfgang6442 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiguelGonzalez-du8de pretty much, she a jsa member at heart
@jackhummer8344
@jackhummer8344 4 жыл бұрын
4:20 Not necessarily, since Ted Knight was mentioned in the second episode as the creator of the Cosmic Staff and it was mentioned in the first episode that Sylvester Pemberton was still the Star-Spangled Kid before Starman. They just can't reference Jack Knight because that character's rights is tied specifically to the creator.
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de 4 жыл бұрын
So Sylvester basically took the role of Jack Knight in the TV show?
@lillibruxvoort8850
@lillibruxvoort8850 3 жыл бұрын
@@MiguelGonzalez-du8de yeah. since jack knight, the starman before courtney, can’t be mentioned in most media due to creator rights, and the starman legacy being crazy, stargirl and smallville both condensed it into erasing star spangled kid and making sylvester and courtney both only starman.
@FoxyAlphaRogerTango
@FoxyAlphaRogerTango 4 жыл бұрын
I don't want to "Um, Actually", so I'll "Fun Fact!" An Acronym that is later back-filled to justify it's existence is often referred to as a "Back-ronym"
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 4 жыл бұрын
"Until the JL reunion movie renders all of these characters cousins from the dimension Zebylu or something." I don't wanna ponder that for too long. That could complicate things...
@SerumLake
@SerumLake 4 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as “too Batman heavy”
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 4 жыл бұрын
*Bat-embargo waltzes in*
@hopebringer2348
@hopebringer2348 4 жыл бұрын
Ever read Dark Nights Metal?
@SerumLake
@SerumLake 4 жыл бұрын
Hopebringer it would’ve been better if it had about 50% more Batman ;)
@TotalJusticeGaming
@TotalJusticeGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Yes there is, its exactly the reason I stopped buying the animated films I was tired of Batman films.
@SerumLake
@SerumLake 4 жыл бұрын
Total Justice Gaming if you’re tired of Batman films then you’re tired of life, my friend ;)
@TotalJusticeGaming
@TotalJusticeGaming 4 жыл бұрын
So canonically she had the cosmic converter belt first as it was part of Star Spangle Kids costume, its how he flew and had his endurance and stamina enhanced also made by Ted Knight. That was her primary power source in the Stars and Stripes comic. She then gained the cosmic staff after She became Star Woman in the Sins of the Youth cross over even that spun out of Young Justice. Jack gave her the staff after seeing her actions as an adult during that event. Also, Ted's Death wasn't Mysterious, it happened in front of Jack after Ted got to hold his grandson for the first and final time and then was killed along with the mist in low orbit by a bomb. Will Payton is also affiliated to the Knight's via marriage as his sister is Jack Knight's wife, Sadie.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the converter belt was something I missed until after I was done editing. That’s what I get for trying to summarize decades of comics into a few minutes! Haha
@TotalJusticeGaming
@TotalJusticeGaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower No biggie, really dug the video. I'm a huge Starman fan, mostly Jack Knight, but I love them all.
@kaandemirkusak8357
@kaandemirkusak8357 4 жыл бұрын
New video from Watchtower Database? That does a smile on my face.
@dld8086
@dld8086 4 жыл бұрын
Who thinks this a good idea is The Batman 2004 connect to Teen Titan
@Power-9Hunnid
@Power-9Hunnid 4 жыл бұрын
You and many others.
@lavalamp2344
@lavalamp2344 4 жыл бұрын
Robins personality is different between the shows
@dld8086
@dld8086 4 жыл бұрын
@@lavalamp2344 Robin mature over time probably and there are a lot Batman reference in Teen Titans in the tie in comics Batman looks similar to The Batman design
@anishsingh2848
@anishsingh2848 4 жыл бұрын
no bad idea really bad idea
@orima3507
@orima3507 4 жыл бұрын
and since the Justice League exist in both shows it could work
@richmanifesto1090
@richmanifesto1090 4 жыл бұрын
Man, the Star family is friggin weird
@toxicmailman
@toxicmailman 4 жыл бұрын
Are you not going to ever do a video on the bat-embargo
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Not with that attitude
@alancarnell2747
@alancarnell2747 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a shipment of Legion of Superheroes figures that included Starboy in his original costume 45 minutes before watching this video. Also got a Mon-El and watched a video about a cop getting hit with a Monell law suit. So weird to hear it out loud while looking at the figure even out of context.
@avace917
@avace917 4 жыл бұрын
The way you cut yourself off before you're done saying certain things is hysterical. Great editing
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de 4 жыл бұрын
My head canon is that the original Starman (Ted Knight) along with his sons David and Jack, are part of Earth 2 and that explains why they have ties with Stargirl, who's a legacy hero of the Star-Spangled Kid (a totally unrelated hero from Starman). While on Earth 1, Mikaal Tomas was the first Starman before retiring and giving the mantle to Prince Gavyn, who later after gave his powers to Will Payton, and at the end in the future, Starboy asumes the role of Starman despite not having co-relation with the previous Earth 1 ones
@DirigoDuke
@DirigoDuke 4 жыл бұрын
Courtney did not have a Cosmic Converter Belt only in JLU. That’s what she initially used in the STARS & S.T.R.I.P.E. series until Jack gave her his staff. The belt belonged to original Star-Spangled Kid Sylvester Pemberton. Originally, Sylvester had no super-powers. Nor did Stripsey. They just tooled around in the Star Rocket Racer, which was their flying car. Not long after the Seven Soldiers were rescued from the times they’d been lost in (in JLA #100-102), DC revived ALL-STAR COMICS starring the JSA, with Sylvester, Power Girl, and an adult Robin joining the older heroes. In the first issue if that new launch (#58) Sylvester shows up wearing the Cosmic Converter Belt, which he describes as being “based on Star Man's Cosmic Rod technology,” thus giving him super powers for the first time.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, something I actually discovered while editing the video and then decided “Well...it’s not worth re-recording for.” 😜
@peterdanior4538
@peterdanior4538 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to hear more Legacy comics are coming, when I found the link I bing read all of them, and I really want to see what happens next
@joehinman1026
@joehinman1026 4 жыл бұрын
The Original Starman (Red Night) has been totally forgotten, He is my favorite JSA member., Red Costume and green cape with a fin on his head.He began in 1941 and was a member of JSA He took part in some team ups JSA/JLA. He was the father of the starman with no costume, In 1966 he did two issue team up wit Black Canary still on Earth 2.
@JensenEntertainment
@JensenEntertainment 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God!!!! I can't believe you got Stan Berkowitz who was DEFINITELY Stan Berkowitz to say my name as a Patreon!! Best money I've ever spent!!!!!!
@fishwrld
@fishwrld 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video like always keep up the great work can't wait for more videos!
@DirigoDuke
@DirigoDuke 4 жыл бұрын
Minor correction: Courtney 1st appeared in 1999, WELL after the Crisis, which was in 1985. So, by that time, there was no Earth-2, with Stargirl and S.T.R.I.P.E. having always loved on the single Earth universe that resulted from Crisis.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Right, I worded that sentence a little strangely. “This was all before Crisis” etc. was supposed to just refer to the Seven Soldiers time travel stuff, but the Courtney sentence got stuck in there, too. All the stuff you’re commenting boils down to: this is what I get for trying to simplify decades of comic books into a couple paragraphs, haha.
@marcusjavier8901
@marcusjavier8901 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the video now i stop asking for it and members we see in the dcau(Canon) Wildcat Starman(Prince Gavin/Ted Knight)-if Stargirl have the same origin as her comic version Crimson Avenger-he wasn't a member of the jsa in mainstream comics but sometimes the dcau could be different from the comics like other members of the jsa in the dcau Stargirl Soulpower Sparky Vigilante-If The Seven Solders Of Victory exist and that they were time displaced Star Spangled Kid(Sylvester Pemberton) S.T.R.I.P.E/Stripesy Hourman(Rick Tyler/Rex Tyler) Atom Smasher(Albert Rothstein/Al Prett) Johnny Thunder & Thunderbolt Dr.Fate(Kent Nelson) Hawkman Hawkgirl Black Canary(Dinah Lance & Dinah Drake) Wonder Woman(Diana Prince & Hippolyta) Power Girl-we see a cameo in batman & Harley quinn Obsidian-if he the son of GL(Alan Scott)then maybe Green Lantern(Alan Scott) The Spectre(Jim Corrigan) Mr.Terrific(Michael Holt) Dr Midnight(Pieter Cross & Charles McNider) Captain Marvel/Shazam! Commader Steel/Citzen Steel Red Tornado(John Smith/Ulthoon) The Shining Knight Vixen Non-Canon Flash(Jay Garrick) Johnny Quick Liberty Belle Firebrand Green Arrow Amazing Man Robotman Jessie Quick
@ivane5110
@ivane5110 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, that's right. Ditko's 1980 Starman did have a lot of shepherd-like staffs of power popping up in them (though I don't recall if Starman himself had one at any point in it, in the Superman/DC Presents team up or in his (shamefully only one panel) final appearance in Crisis. Wonder if a coincidence or if it inspired post-Crisis writers/artists who 1st gave Starman his own scepter-staff?
@angryturtle7
@angryturtle7 4 жыл бұрын
Glad we got a video on her, always thought she needed more air time on the show
@lillibruxvoort8850
@lillibruxvoort8850 3 жыл бұрын
the thom kallor in the tie-in comic is actually based on an alternate timeline thom. it’s reboot thom kallor who was originally supposed to be danny blaine and the starman who traveled back to present day, but it ended up being retconned into retroboot thom kallor who after getting mixed up and landing in kingdom come used the alias danny blaine. he also used that alias while in the jsa and living at the sunshine sanatorium. the five other canon thom kallors have only ever star boy
@BriManeely
@BriManeely 4 жыл бұрын
This video pertains to my interests
@dusanstojsin4938
@dusanstojsin4938 4 жыл бұрын
The "whenever now is" meme will never die!
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de 3 жыл бұрын
In my headcanon Ted Knight, David Knight and Jack Knight were the Starmen of Earth 2, with the Star-Spangled Kid being a related hero and then Stargirl ending the legacy by inheriting both the SSK and Starman's powers. Ferris Knight is just an evil, future descendant of Ted Knight. Meanwhile on Earth 1, Mikaal Thomas used to be Starman before retiring, then Price Gavyn took the name even though he's not related to humans at all, and later passed his powers to William Payton, the main Starman from this earth. In the future, Starboy is an unrelated hero and member of the Legion of Superheroes.
@LucasDarkGiygas
@LucasDarkGiygas 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@notoriouslego8204
@notoriouslego8204 2 жыл бұрын
That random legion member who kinda looks like Starboy but in a different costume is designed to look like Ultra Boy and the other one is Colossal Kid
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, neither of them actually match anyone else! I think whoever colored those shots probably thought the one was Colossal Boy, and the other Ultra Boy. But who knows!
@crisananca313
@crisananca313 4 жыл бұрын
hey man Future Shock told us Static would meet the Titans at some point, but that never happens!
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
That was “Hard as Nails,” but yes, although we never saw them, they’re out there somewhere. Search for our “DCAU Titans” video where we speculate who could be on that team!
@Gokitalo
@Gokitalo 4 жыл бұрын
From now on, whenever somebody asks me a DCAU question about Starman and Stargirl that I don't know the answer to, I'll just point to this video and go, "Well, if Stan Berkowitz can't figure it out...!"
@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 4 жыл бұрын
This video got me *seeing stars.* ⭐⭐⭐ I'll let myself out.
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 4 жыл бұрын
Zeta Project video? What about Ivy? Also, great job on this Star Girl video! I was always curious who this star clad beauty was with the 'Big Guy' ironed man Stripe!
@Power-9Hunnid
@Power-9Hunnid 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder they'll actually add Superboy someday.
@KingCookMike
@KingCookMike 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmm spaghetti doesn't sound bad
@joshua2764
@joshua2764 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly would like to know more of the Prince and his abilities...
@tiptapricot
@tiptapricot 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah when *are* you gonna make a Zeta Project video guys?
@briang9581
@briang9581 4 жыл бұрын
Wadsworth: ... and to make a long story short Everyone Else: Too late!
@diegodreossi1458
@diegodreossi1458 2 жыл бұрын
Starman Gavyn has a cool look
@Early666
@Early666 4 жыл бұрын
6:19 Sounds like someone's been listening to Mimir's stories recently.
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 4 жыл бұрын
Because of JLA I found and read the Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E. comic, JSA and All Star Squadron comics. Stargirl in the comics and the JLA is an excellent character and quickly became a favourite of mine. She got the Cosmic Converter Belt before she became Stargirl, it was the original Star Spangled Kid's gear and Courtney used it as the next Star Spangled Kid before getting the staff and becoming Stargirl. Check out the Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E. comic.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, found out the belt was a thing pre-JLU while editing the video. Pretty cool!
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower The comics she debuted in, and the JSA comics are worth the read too
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Ted got me a JSA omnibus a few years back. Had a TON of fun with that one.
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower You get to read the Kingdom Come Superman story arc?
@nicolasbazzano2028
@nicolasbazzano2028 4 жыл бұрын
That’s funny, I always thought Prince Gavin was Red Star, not one of the many many many heroes to bear the name Starman.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
In the Justice League Beyond 2.0 comic, Red Star did appear, using a green-tinted version of JLU Starman’s character design. So...yeah...
@AC-gb7do
@AC-gb7do 4 жыл бұрын
Very weird OT question...I noticed Supes in the video in a spacesuit. Was there ever a figure made of that look?
@yourmajesty8913
@yourmajesty8913 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@MoonjumperReviews
@MoonjumperReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm... I’m a little skeptical of that Stan Berkowitz cameo... I understand not being able to stick to a programming schedule. I’m six episodes into my show; the second episode was STATED it was going to be about Star Trek Picard-and five episodes later, I’m yet to drop it because the 2020 “apocalypse” kind of brought up some more pressing issues to talk about. And then “Lower Decks” dropped-so THAT became the topic. Still haven’t gotten to Picard. So, I feel you. Regarding Stargirl... I am very pleasantly surprised how much I am enjoying the live-action Stargirl series. It’s actually refreshing that it’s a family friendly show about a teenaged superhero-where she is actually being a superhero instead preaching to me. It’s a very enjoyable show. I was not too familiar with this character when DC Universe announced it. But around that same time I was watching my JLU DVD box set and she makes a couple appearances along with Starman and STRIPE-and that tiny bit of information from JLU made the live-action show make more sense to me as I was going in. Great series!
@sethvella
@sethvella 4 жыл бұрын
6:01 *I like how a lot of the DCAU comics are "questionably canon" they r probably set on an alternate Earth where the only DCAU shows was BTAS, TNBA and the first season of STAS* but this probably has a grain of truth?
@spookyadler
@spookyadler 4 жыл бұрын
Ted Knight didn't die "mysteriously." He sacrificed himself to fly a nuclear bomb into space, saving the city. There was a big farewell scene and a public memorial. No mystery.
@The.Lake.Effect
@The.Lake.Effect 2 ай бұрын
As much as I loved Justice League Unlimited, they definitely could have done Star Girl more justice. Having her be a background character used just to fill out large battle scenes or make the Watchtower feel more lively, and then putting in the spotlight only to make her look like the less popular, less powerful, less charismatic bitter and jealous counterpart to Supergirl felt gross and annoying. Other JLU members who only ever appeared in the background like Crimson Fox, Gypsy, Vibe, Obsidian, or Dr. Light were already underused, but they picked Star Girl out just to highlight her as "bargain bin Supergirl who nobody likes" and unlike the ending to Patriot Act, were Vigilante, Shining Knight, Crimson Avenger, and Speedy start out as "off brand heroes who nobody cares about" but then become popular and well liked at the end, Star Girl's ending in Chaos at the Earth's Core is basically just learning to accept that she's mid compared to Kara, or something like that.
@retrozip
@retrozip 4 жыл бұрын
Starman looks like a red Booster Gold
@michaelnoga3737
@michaelnoga3737 4 жыл бұрын
8:19 I really hope Stan Berkowitz sees this
@Elvisbackpack
@Elvisbackpack 4 жыл бұрын
WHEN ARE YOU MAKING A ZETA PROJECT VIDEO YOU GODDAMN PLEBS!
@diegodreossi1458
@diegodreossi1458 2 жыл бұрын
The Stargirl show is amazing!
@Awestefeld6612
@Awestefeld6612 4 жыл бұрын
Starman got his rod from M'ntorr.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
In the comics, at least. JLU figure packaging says he made it. So 🤷🏼‍♀️
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 9 ай бұрын
At least Stargirl's Justice League Action iteration fills up the gaps of her DCAU iteration not getting a spotlight story. Still nada on Starman though.
@damaniqphillip2756
@damaniqphillip2756 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@icedteaman5862
@icedteaman5862 4 жыл бұрын
They mention Vigilantes timeline shenanigans in one of the comics you’ll eventually read James, I used to have it but my doggo ate it 😭
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Looking forward to it.
@BATTY3459
@BATTY3459 4 жыл бұрын
7:11 Neither Superman nor Hawkgirl were in JL episode, "Maid of Honor", so maybe they fought that villain during the time when the rest of the League were fighting Vandal Savage
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps!
@princeveggetta
@princeveggetta 4 жыл бұрын
Got to do pre crisis
@princeveggetta
@princeveggetta 4 жыл бұрын
Always a amulet
@notoriouslego8204
@notoriouslego8204 2 жыл бұрын
The cosmic converter gives her the ability to fly
@joeytheslimeboi8900
@joeytheslimeboi8900 4 жыл бұрын
Internet historian got a cameo, yay!
@TVmaniac26
@TVmaniac26 4 жыл бұрын
13:39 Isn’t that Ultra Boy and 13:59 the other looks like Colossal Boy
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Nope! They’re both also in the shot. We thought the same!
@happywheeler4268
@happywheeler4268 2 жыл бұрын
I always felt Starman is Will Payton in the dcau
@Hewhoblue
@Hewhoblue 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew that i had a nerdy side until i met Dc 💙💫
@benforsgren1537
@benforsgren1537 4 жыл бұрын
I feel it as a missed opportunity that you guys didn't mention that Bruce Wayne became Starman in the 50s for a very short time.
@Ted-Kendrick
@Ted-Kendrick 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Forsgren I mentioned that in our notes for this video but it went into the ether, likely the same way Pat became an uncle.
@Andrews_Wrestling_Life
@Andrews_Wrestling_Life 4 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a legion of doom members vid like you did justice league?
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@RyanConIon
@RyanConIon 4 жыл бұрын
My head canon is that Star Boy is a descendent if either StarGirl or StarMan
@Juliotimbi80
@Juliotimbi80 3 жыл бұрын
There's a blue action figure of Prince Gavin Starman uniform for some reason
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
He had a blue version of this costume in the mainstream comics, is probably why. We bring that up in our video about the Rann-Thanagar War!
@Juliotimbi80
@Juliotimbi80 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower . Yes. I loved those stories and that uniform. I will seek for this figure for my collection
@brodyman30
@brodyman30 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna start a riot in my town of 50 people if you dont make a Zeta project video. This is a threat.
@topsdaily_productions
@topsdaily_productions 4 жыл бұрын
When will you cover the DCAU Batman and Scooby Doo guess who crossover?
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
🤷🏼‍♀️
@DirigoDuke
@DirigoDuke 4 жыл бұрын
Why Green Arrow and Speedy are “just there” in the DCAU is because, well . . . . it’s complicated. See, in addition to Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman, GA and Speedy were the only super-heroes (at DC or anywhere) to remain in publication continuously from the Golden Age of the 1940s through to the Silver Age of the 1960s. Thus, when the multiverse concept was introduced to differentiate the Golden and Silver Age versions of various characters, GA & Speedy had exact duplicates on both Earths, just separated by time era. Then, when DC made the ultimately boneheaded move to merge all worlds and timelines into a single continuity as a result of CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, the Earth-2 versions of the Big 5 (er, 7, counting Speedy and Robin) was simply ignored, with those characters established in the modern age with no prior version of legacy. Thus, the JSA became the predecessors of the JLA, instead of multiversesal doppelgängers. Of course, that kind of negated the whole Seven Soldiers-shunted-into-the-future story, as least as it involved GA & Speedy. IIRC, GA was replaced in official DC continuity, and in the Seven Soldiers, by a different Golden Age bowman, The Spider, while Crimson Avenger's previously-ignored sidekick Wing took Speedy's place as the titular seventh soldier. See, very simply, really. 🤨
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, yep. This was something I kind of “left on the cutting room floor” for this video, for time’s sake.
@RWPowell1966
@RWPowell1966 4 жыл бұрын
The "Starman" who appeared as a side character in JL:U is NOT Starman, but Red Star, the original Starfire, from Teen Titans continuity.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Aka Starro the Conqueror
@BoggarthVT
@BoggarthVT 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there was more stargirl.
@TheLonelySoulja
@TheLonelySoulja 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been missing u guys lately, but where’s Matty
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the recent BTAS Lost Episodes videos!
@ronaldjackson613
@ronaldjackson613 Жыл бұрын
First off I want to say that I love the watchtower database and it's not in my nature to usually critique good fans passionate fans of the dcau but I'm afraid I will have to point out one small tiny error Mr James LOL that you had made LOL According to stargirl in Justice League unlimited chaos at the Earth's core she actually refers to Pat Dugan AKA stripe as her father. But then we learn that if you watch behind the characters or whatever that's called I can't remember at the moment we find out that Pat Dugan is actually Star girls stepfather. Ironically she supposedly got her powers from a character name star man but it's not this guy or the Starboy we saw from the future in Justice League versus the fatal five. Apparently there's a lot of star characters including an evil star ironically I have his action figure in the supposed legion of Doom or whatever God was calling them the secret society or whatever. Like I said I'm not a critiquer I love the DCA you I love you guys y'all look great I love the artwork I love Bruce Tim style I just love the DCA you so much I really hope we don't get a live action dcau because Lord knows we do not need it!! Let's keep the dcau animated please that's why we call it the DC animated universe we do not need it to be live action under any circumstances. Actually come to think of it I would love to see more dcau property maybe we can get a zeta continuation or possibly a Batman beyond continuation after the events of epilogue I would love to see what Terry's life is like now that he's chosen to stay with Dana chosen to keep everyone in his family that he loves and possibly might even have a kid with Dana who knows.
@xgamer560
@xgamer560 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that the knight talked about his past about his king of the round table
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, regardless of the time travel with the Seven Soldiers or not, Shining Knight was on King Arthur’s court until Morgaine le Faye froze him, allowing him to get to present day a la Captain America.
@xgamer560
@xgamer560 4 жыл бұрын
Watchtower Database wow thanks for the reply big fan of all you folks work thanks for the clarification
@rebeccatabor5508
@rebeccatabor5508 2 жыл бұрын
Where does Prince Gavyn get involved? Wasn’t he “Starman”?
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 2 жыл бұрын
Did you finish the video? ;)
@rebeccatabor5508
@rebeccatabor5508 2 жыл бұрын
I have but like when it comes to ted knight and such, which would be considered the true original since there is this weird convulted plot of gavyn dying and his “essence” goes to some man who was hiking like ??? dc has a rep to make things not make sense 🤣🤣
@zyaicob
@zyaicob 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they change the comic release day?
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Not positive
@stewartmcdonald2144
@stewartmcdonald2144 4 жыл бұрын
my English teacher hates it when i say schway.
@alterclark1
@alterclark1 4 жыл бұрын
Do more on starman and 2nd tier jlu heroes and I'll "patreon" you. You have my word. To give credence to my word I love super powers and everything Carlos Barberi is in canon to me. PS Sorry for upsetting u concerning #keepepilogueasecret
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t even recall the instance, so no harm done. 😉 We’ll definitely be trying to do more videos on “lesser” characters between our big “Batman: the Adventures Continue” videos.
@saribarif189
@saribarif189 4 жыл бұрын
6:49 7:08 I don't remember these scenes.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
“Hunter’s Moon” “Shadow of the Hawk”
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@vj9021
@vj9021 4 жыл бұрын
In a way it gives the TV show more room to make Stargirl great. I always nit pick over Batman (anything), Stargirl can create her own fans who in the future can insult future shows/ comics/ movies. I hope they make the most of that (relative) freedom. New shows like this should come to UK faster, still not able to watch all Batwoman! 1/2 through & I have to worry about a new Batwoman? Can you talk about Wildcat & the female version in Stargirl, so want a Wildcat series Ted isn't used enough.
@ricksmith6637
@ricksmith6637 4 жыл бұрын
Pat is her step father not her uncle
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
See: pinned comment
@ricksmith6637
@ricksmith6637 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see stargirl in justice league action
@ronaldjackson613
@ronaldjackson613 Жыл бұрын
Actually to be truthfully honest I'm kind of annoyed that when the Justice League unlimited action figures came out in the 2000s the star girl figure was not only long legged LOL but also a little too small. She should have been the height of Supergirl and yeah... I really don't know why we didn't get a decent stargo figure in the Justice League unlimited collection and for that matter I don't know why we didn't get a decent Batgirl figure and the new Batman animated series collection new Batman adventures sorry but still for what we got they were great I know this isn't an action figure channel but I figured I'd bring that up anyway because I just really wanted to also I saw a zeta figure Big Sur prise surprise not really quote? Also I would like to see a Royal flush gang collection of action figures but someone made custom figures and they're actually not able to be bought which is unfortunate. Still sorry no this isn't a toy channel but wanted to say it anyway. Again love the dcau love your work you guys are amazing please keep it up. As Captain planet would probably say the dcau power is yours. Sorry.. really didn't mean to reference Captain planet. What was I thinking?? :-)
@Highline_29_Designs
@Highline_29_Designs 4 жыл бұрын
I've never figured it out, are Starman and Stargirl supposed to be cosmic space heroes or more patriotic heroes?
@foldabotZ
@foldabotZ 2 жыл бұрын
Star-Spangled Kid, Sylvester Pemberton, was a patriotic WW2 hero, like Captain America and the Shield, meant to be a symbol against the Nazis. Courtney Whitmore, took his costume decades later, spruced it up, and became the new Star-Spangled Kid before she was given the Cosmic Rod by Jack Knight to become Stargirl(she kept the same costume). Speaking of Jack Knight; him, his older brother, and father held the identity of Starman separately. They used Cosmic Rods to give them the ability of flight and fire energy blasts. Prince Gavyn and Thom Kallor, the former an alien prince and the latter a 30th century superhero, are the ones considered to be the cosmic space Starmen. Star-Spangled Kid, and by extension Stargirl, were patriotic heroes while the Knights were only because the original(Ted Knight) was an Astronomer.
@aubrielledumas6374
@aubrielledumas6374 4 жыл бұрын
*_today is wednesday.._* *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
(The Wednesday following releases of new issues ✌️)
@aubrielledumas6374
@aubrielledumas6374 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcauwatchtower *_i n h a l e_* ok 🗿
@antcat8584
@antcat8584 4 жыл бұрын
Stripe is her step father
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I dunno how none of us caught that, but we didn’t. Gonna be the comment of comments this video.
@kylerohan3841
@kylerohan3841 4 жыл бұрын
The raan war just doesn’t fit into the dcau. It bothers me a lot. They are all but gone because of the episode with vigilante, hawkgirl, and vixen where they encountered the last of the thanagarians. Yes they could’ve regrouped but it doesn’t make sense. Also why would hawkgirl be fighting for them against the green lanterns and John Stewart. She’s banished from the tribe and doesn’t want to be associated with them anymore. The timeline is pretty tight but that’s just like cmon man
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
We’re looking to do a whole video on what could’ve possibly gone down during the DCAU’s version. Stay tuned!
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 4 жыл бұрын
Howdy
@Gunganfan
@Gunganfan 4 жыл бұрын
Stepfather, NOT uncle.
@dcauwatchtower
@dcauwatchtower 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, so weird. I dunno how none of us noticed that. We’re all very aware he’s her stepdad, haha. Oops!
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