I always liked to believe that Killer Croc was just born that way, that thought always made the character more interesting to me. Also it would show how Batman just wants to help this man with a life that seems doomed to fail from the very start. WOW that got dark.

I think Kevin Smith stole "The Gun" idea for his "Detective Comics 1000" story. Its not as deep. Its just Batman buying the gun and melting it to make a chest plate for the Bat suit. Though Alan Burnett's sounds ten times better

And you've pretty much gave a reason why HBO Max should bring Batman: The Animated Series to its outlet. There are stories that could only be told in animation, and there's lots of them, including from The Adventure Continues comics. The Gun would be perfect for HBO Max consumption. No BS&P. No limits.

Hope that Gun Story script gets released or adapted some day, whether with Joe Chill or Jack Napier

"Being that The Bible was written before any episodes ever aired..." This becomes much funnier out of context.

Okay, Killer Croc having a Spider-Man like origin sounds horrible. I am glad this never happened.

That gun story sounds deep; definitely an Emmy winning sounding script.

#9 sounds like it was adapted for the animated series called "The Batman" that came out during the Nolan movies. In Season 3 Episode 7, The Laughing Cats, Batman, Catwoman and Batgirl are all on an island owned by a bounty hunter. They're for stolen cats. Then they wind up being forced to play a maze

Okay, you guys finally aknowledged the existence of The Music Master. Now its only a matter of time The Music Meister gets a mention.

They kind of lucked out by not releasing the original draft for mr freeze's origin story. Freeze is actually more compelling as a sympathetic villain where as the og script would just make himthe same quirky villain with an ice gun.

Detective Comics 1000 did a similar gun story. A man goes into a Gotham "True Crime Gift Shop". The man asks about guns and the store owner starts showing off various guns used in Gotham crimes. When the owner gets to the gun that killed the Waynes, the man stops him. The man then buys the gun, for way more than what the owner was asking. While this is going on, the story cuts to Batman fighting various foes, with each on damaging his suit in the same place. The yellow oval bat symbol, revealing the armor plate underneath. Bruce Wayne takes the gun to the Batcave. Alfred asks why he would want that. Bruce responds with (paraphrasing) "This gun didn't harm me, but it did scar me. It scarred me for my whole life. I'm going to make sure it will never do that to anyone else." He then melts down the gun, and forges it into the armor plate.

Bruce Tim would make a good reverse flash

The video we never needed but the one we deserved

Commenting on watchtower database videos until the algorithm likes them: video 2

The series bible mentioned they had the idea to team up Mr. Freeze and the Penguin (I imagine Freeze would have taken refuge at some sort of arctic exhibit at the zoo that Penguin already claimed as a hideout) but it seems it was only ever *just* an idea, and never made even made it to an outline. I believe the creators have gone on record saying they realized Heart of Ice stood on it’s own and they resisted the temptation to bring Freeze back until the very end of the series with Deep Freeze. Honestly, that episode was probably produced with the intent to set up Subzero now that I think about it. Which was originally going to be a tie in to Batman & Robin, so I wonder if they even would have done that had the studio not ordered it. I know you guys know all this (what DON’T you know? lmao) I’m just thinking aloud/sharing anecdotes with fellow commenters.

Thank you Mattie! Because it's Sunday. I had heard about the gun story before..... sounds great. In head cannon, it was Napier, but part of the trauma Bruce has blocks him from solving this one.... like in Mask of The Phantasm, he doesn't put 2 and 2 together about Napier.

That "Gun Story" episode sounds like that could have one of the best B: TAS episodes ever (if only they would omit the part about Jack Napier/Joker being the Waynes' killer!). I would love to see it made into a comic book or DTV animated feature. The prison episode sounded like it had potential too, just name the villain something other than "Mr. Big"; maybe if they used Rupert Thorne instead?

"that outsourced Japanese script went on to become the mecha series "The Big O" idk I didn't watch it --Bruce Timm probably

The gentlemen ghost one was going to be the original Zatana, I believe.

Excellent video Watchtower Database, can't wait to see part 2 of this video, and see what more episodes of B:TAS were script off, and maybe, see if that episode that Paul Dini wrote about Batman and the Sandman crossover show ups.

Imagine if Bruce Timm Drew Freakazoid(Dexter Douglas), Danny Phantom, Captain Planet,Ben 10,Power Puff Girl, Dexter Labratory,Samurai Jack Or Generator Rex!

I can’t wait for part 2! I really want to know about the Sandman plot that never got made!

I love the phrase "Hat-based crimes"

Dude, that's basically Batman Begins side plot storyline😂💯

All hail the comment algorithm. Oh hey I have the same mic as Mattie. And yeah I was wondering how you were holding it so long, that thing has heft. Also, I've never noticed a KZfaq video having chapters before, is that a new feature?

I just want to say, the most excited I got watching Batman Beyond was when they showed us Ace. And I lived that entire show, I just also love dogs.

I think Buzz Dixon may be able to give further details on unproduced episode "The Count and the Countess." With Sean Derek, I thought "The Cat and the Claw Part 1 and Part 2" were excellent episodes. I do enjoy other episodes associated with Sean Derek such as The Forgotten, The Underdwellers, POV, etc. although I read somewhere that many aspects of these episodes were rewritten which may explain why these episodes didn't end up being great.

I've always wanted to know if Batman The Animated Series had deleted scenes, lost episodes, or even banned episodes (which I doubt), or even if there were alternate versions of certain episodes? Also I think the lost episode of with The Mad Meister script was actually used in Batman Brave And The Bold cartoon where he turned the entire episode into a musical.

Some of these sounds pretty good. I hope a future show picks them up.

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I knew it was coming. Thanks for the upload 👍🏿

That Catwoman story would have been really cool to see! It reminds me of The Black Glove from Morrison Batman

BTAS could be a bit rocky but it's good is just sooo good that it Is a true masterpiece

The storyline about "The Architect" reminds me a bit of the episode involving once off villian Lock Up.

KZfaq asked if this was a good recommendation, I said yes and selected all of the describing words. Just doing my job, feeding the algorithm

Well whataya know, after looking into the DC Database on all the the unused villains, it turns out Blackbeard was one of Batman's earliest adversaries (Batman #4, 1940)

The Mister Freeze origin one reminds me a lot of "The Batman".

14:23 Wow, in retrospect, Batman was shockingly delicate in his delivery of that line there. He would have been a good Bat Grampa ❤

I cant believe you got the real rocko for the vid!

9:43 Same, Rocko. Same. 😔

There is a PDF of The One and Only Gun Story on dcanimated dot com, in the “backstage” page for BTAS. They were donated several scripts for unmade episodes by the late Martin Pasko, who wrote “Paging the Crime Doctor” and “Mask of the Phantasm” and was a story editor on BTAS. The script for the Gun Story is split into two PDFs, the first and second half, but it’s just one episode, not a two-parter. It’s credited to Tom Ruegger for story and script by Garin Wolf, with a revised date of “5/28/91”. It matches up to everything we’ve heard about the script, including the appearance of “Jack Napier,” who laughs a lot even before he was the Joker. The same page has scripts for the earlier unmade Creeper episode and some others.

Will we be discussing the Sega CD Animated game with the " Lost Episode"? It was FANTASTIC!

It's nice that you mentioned Hanna-Barbera, but years before Super Friends, Filmation was making DC Comics shows starting with the Superman/Aquaman Adventure Hour. And don't forget about Ruby-Spears' 1988 Superman series.

Hey, I'm the guy who wrote that TV-Tropes article. Yes, I do recall The Count and the Countess being mentioned in the letters section of The Batman Adventures. It's issue 11, but I did make a mistake about the title, it lists 'See No Evil' but lists the villains as 'The Count and the Countessa'. Weird.

2:47 Sounds like it's also half of The Underdwellers imo! Specifically the whole "Batman sewer survival" aspect. Also, that's easily one of my favorite episodes. 4:45 I'd say this episode is basically intact. They just needed a "why". The "why" just happened to work really well, as did the direction, animation, and everything else. 5:20 That's because it's based on a classic _Joker_ plot with Joker Toxin, just with the added riot because of Batman not stopping it in time. Also, Rocksteady later dusted this concept off for Arkham Knight after losing Paul Dini. 6:25 I love this. No other comments, I just love "Batman and Riddler do Die Hard in a Prison". It's a glorious concept, and as soon as it's said out loud I instantly felt like this should already exist by now. The two have the perfect dynamic already, you just need to force them into a situation which breaks Bruce's stoicism. That's always been his main weapon against Eddie, refusing to really give him the time of day. So, if they're forced to work together, he's forced to rely on him and communicate with him. Inversely, Eddie's pride is such that he really wouldn't want to rely on Bruce but would obviously need to in the situation. Both of them would hate it so much. Idk if a "he knows his identity" would make it even more fun, but either option is good imo. 6:40 Batman vs Riddler Die Hard? Clearly someone felt Riddler + Die Hard worked. 8:00 That must have been the good kush. 14:26 There's... potential in the concept. There are theoretical situations where Batman has to protect a child or children for a long enough period of time to have to actually have some level of co-operation. I'm thinking some "Aliens" type stuff, but more realistic. If it wasn't BTAS since... Fox... I'd say this could be done in a serious way via it being a human trafficking story, not dissimilar to the one we actually got in BTAS actually. Just, rather than prisoners, kids. Rather than infiltrating via capture, using his Matches Malone persona. He gets all the way to their storage facility out of easy range of his gear somehow. Eventually it goes sideways because "Matches" is in a situation where his only way to maintain cover is to allow kids to be harmed right in front of him. So, he attacks the gang, but now he's in a Karl Urban Dredd situation with some kidnapped children to protect tagging along (the ones who were in the room), so we've got unarmored Batman vs an entire armed human trafficking gang in a situation where he's constantly having to put himself in harm's way for civilians. Crime-based survival horror starring Batman. 16:55 My feelings on this are complicated. I really don't like the idea in this execution, but when I actually analyze what I don't like about it, I feel like it's just too vast a retcon to the origins to do so quickly. Because the actual retcon was done. Batman being the result of Native American magic and cursed ore? That came back, and it wasn't bad imo. So like, I can't criticize the idea itself. But it feels so much more comical when executed like this. It makes it seem so random and ridiculous. Those retcons made them about him. This is just "some company was dicks and used cursed ore, now this magic gun is wandering Gotham and ruining lives, and once it killed the Waynes it got fixated on Batman and stalked him". It's a story about a magic gun purchased by the Joker to kill the Waynes because it was cursed by Native Americans. It just has all the elements and I bet the cinematography and art would have been fantastic and made it better in execution, but I like how these elements were done later. 20:40 Y'all. A "countess" that's bored? And it sounds like she might have a thing with Bruce Wayne? It's Silver St. Cloud.

What about the dark knight's first night which was the original pilot of the show and was fully produce but never aired and was lost for years (until it was made as a DVD extra)

Imagine talking about batman the animated series "lost episodes" and not mentioning the SEGA CD adventures of batman and robin cutscenes that when combined make the lost episode i kid, this was a great and well thought out video, and its interesting to see how ideas were reworked into episodes that actually came out:-)

Awesome!

Who knew all these stories were being held by DC. Well done.

they need to make these into a series of movie shorts

I really find that Bruce Wayne episode interesting, just seeing the criminals freak out while Bruce smiles smugly would be gold

I havent seen the fox Batman cimmercial bumpers since the 90s ! Nice find.

Good video

The premise of the Episode #9 is the same as The Batman's episode "The Laughing Cats", only they threw Joker and his hyenas into the mix.

19:17 So, I unexpectedly got some solid information on "The Count and the Countess" today... in the form of the writer summarizing the entire plot for me. I can confirm several things: 1) It wasn't written by Marty Pasko, AFAIK. Although he may have rewritten it in his capacity as Story Editor. 2) It has absolutely nothing to do with Nocturna or vampires. That's just fan speculation that has NO basis in fact. 3) "The Count and the Countess" is NOT the original title. More info to come, although probably not for a while. Stay tuned!

2:12: I prefer the guy being born that way, which led him to many hardships that, well, made him become the Killer Croc we know and fear. 3:53: As an origin tale, it's lackluster. As a follow-up tale, it would have been interesting. 4:23: Sure became the Mr. Freeze depiction on The Batman 2004 cartoon. Admittedly a good change of pace from the sympathetic Freeze iterations nowadays, but nothing much to hone about at some points. 4:49: Would have given Robin a nice spotlight but in my opinion, the Scarecrow would have done the poisoning instead. 5:49: TNBA would have benefitted heavily on this. 6:50: A follow-up to "Judgment Day", perhaps. 7:15: Would have preferred he never became the Batman even to the very end. The DCAU sorely needed more non-Batman Bruce Wayne action, in my opinion. Smart move putting Ace instead for Batman Beyond, since Bruce was really lonely at that point. Would have been a bit excessive, him being on the prime Bat years. A Scarface wrestling scene would have been nice, if the puppet's opponent is not Batman, but rather a villain who's losing their marbles one way or another, with the Ventriloquist watching in fearful awe. 14:11: Good thing Bat-Mite wasn't a thing in the DCAU. Beside, we already got Mr. Mxyzptlk later on, while The Brave and the Bold cartoon was a better place for him to work his madness. The Gun Story, if the magic ore stuff was kept, is better off as an Elseworlds tale, all while Joe Chill should almost always be the Waynes' murderer (although "Jack Napier" can still have a hand on it, with the possibility of him being the guy who hired Chill). Either way, would love to see this adapted even in a non-DCAU fashion.

I like your shirt Mattie!

Rip gentlemen ghost. Hes an absolute chad

I really wish we could have seen these episodes air🥺

This is the video I needed to see but I didn't deserve.

I´m looking at you right now HBO MAX

Hey Watchtower database sorry I haven't been watching your stuff recently I just been caught up with a bunch of other stuff but anyways Batman mask of the Phantasm is on Netflix at least where I am and I'm completely shocked that it's not in the top 10 like it's kind of weird why it's not in the top 10 it's a Batman movie so yeah people are probably going to start to watch it soon but anyways I just wanted to share the news have a great day and keep up the great content!

Make these episodes into animated movies!!

Ooo I will definitely watch this once I finish the show 19.1.24

My arm got sore just by watching you hold that mic for 21 minutes.

*damn that's crazy*

Mr big What a creative name

Hey look ANOTHER Batman The Animated Series video!

I'd wanna see the Nocturna episode that was never produced

Never liked having Joker murder the Wayne's. It's too something I don't like. I do remember getting my hands on the first draft of Batman by Sam Hamm. What we saw was it's literal skeletal remains. It was almost Miller's Dark Knight! Even had the horses.

"My name is Mr Big" Hank Hill

The cursed ore is a bit much, but everything else amazing

Rocko's hairy pits.

we could've had bat-mite???? 😢😢💔💔

Nice

High five Mattie! ✋

Watched halfway through the video until I realized it was updated just a couple of hours ago

nice shirt

Mad Maestro sounds a lot like the Music Meister 🤔

The often rumored Azrael episode was planned for what season? Or it would have been on the TNBA era?

Are we ever going to see these lost episodes?

has this channel ever done any video on the "lost batman episodes" that were really the cutscenes from the Sega CD game that the animation studio produced for the game?

Rockabye Batman? Like that Batman adventures comic with the baby?

You know you there a cancelled movie about marvel vs DC by Bruce Tim I don't know if it a about the dcau but it sounds cool

Where'd you find the episodes? Under the couch?

Batman mask of the phantasm is on Netflix

3rd lost episode video whennnn

When's the next issue of legacies

Hello there

Did you know that Elizabeth Moss was in the episode See no evil? As I might have said it before

I Have That T Shirt you are Wearing

these all sound like episodes of The Batman from 2004

I assume “‘ice’ called diamond” is a typo that was meant to say “diamond called ‘ice’.”

MR. BIG and BLACKBEARD confirmed for the adventures continued?

8:00 *ZE HA HA HA* 💀💀💀

The one and only gun story would have been interesting but I guess ghost is to far for this show.

Howdy

LMAO ONE PIECE

Fun fact : Sean Catherine Derek is Bo Derek's stepdaughter. (ask your grandparents)

So killer croc would have been a mutant crocodile instead of a deformed human and wasn’t penguin supposed to have a origin episode?