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@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis interesting. i dont have those characters on my keyboard so i tend not to use them. thx for the info :)

I gotta say. This is the most well-formulated thought I have seen concerning Starkiller. I didn’t think of this.

I mean yeah doesn’t vader say as much in the game? That he’s not really a clone, but rather the same person in a different body? I know a LOT of the people in 2 say they “feel his force power” through the force and it’s EXACTLY the same.

@@Zeke1460 actually vader says the opposite with intent to demoralize him.

Nomnomnom.

It's impossible. Star-killer is only Legends Material.

He will have to be nerfed so it fits in the canon. So he will lose part of what it makes him starkiller

Agreed and I’ve never even played the games

Either way I'll be pissed if it's not Sam Witwer

Honestly I'm happy that he is trending because not many people know about him

Oh god yes. Star Wars has a bunch of different Lightsaber forms they could use. One form I think was developed specifically to counter blaster fire so Cal could use that when fighting ranged Troopers and when fighting Inquisitors you could switch between styles to counter whatever the Inquisitor is using and they'd switch to counter you.

@@TheAdventGamer Form 3 Soresu is that defense form. It seems cal likes to switch between Soresu, Djem So, and the First form

I'd like to see him become a canon inquisitor, Disney should just tell us to forget about the games and make him canon finally!!!

@@NasTalkz With how Disney executes their stuff, I don't want them to do Galen Marek

Starkiller would be awesome to see ... he is by far my favorite Star Wars character even though he is not cannon ... i have mix views whether i want to see him in a movie or even a series ... I think Disney would absolutely butcher him and his abilities ... mainly cuz he is a extremely strong white male ... and he doesn't fall into the Disney political correct ideology ..

he would go really well in a Vader movie/series

@@NasTalkz no inquisitors are too weak. We need someone strong enough for Luke to go against in these Disney plus series

I think you never watched the story The reason he dont fall into the darkness is not cause he is "balanced" he is just forced from child age that the force is his slave Unlike other like anakin, kenobi and everbody So basically he is the worst guy possible making the force his slave to abuse his will. So he already fell through the darkness and far far deeper

Well the problem is that it wasn't Galen reaching from the beyond to starkiller, Starkiller WAS Galen. Cloning someone who is not force sensitive is easy, hence the clones of Jango Fett. But cloning someone who is in tune with the force is only giving that force spirit another body to inhabit, essentially forcing Galen to essence himself into the new body. This will drive the clone mad. Starkiller was an exception, but as you see at the end of the game, the hundreds of clones of him were all insatiably mad. This is because his force energy is being split into each and every one of them. its crazy shit man lol

@@jacobpederson1047 dumb question but do you think that by killing his ineffective clones he starts to become stronger in the force again considering that the essence is being removed from a corrupted body and going into his more "Stable" body it's like in The One the more versions of himself he kills the stronger he becomes but for galen its slightly different

I'd argue the Dark lord starkiller is more powerful. The dark lord version had no ties to the lightside holding him back, allowing him to fully embrace the darkside to its full potential.

@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 I mean, Force lightning is seen as the epitome of the dark side corruption of the force and starkiller sure as hell spammed that shit like crazy and was as good at as palpatine by the end of the first game. We also see in the second game that bro is definitely NOT a good person. If Juno was not there he would've just let the rebellion die. bro did not care.

I totally agree,I'd absolutely love to see a updated game of the Force Unleashed

That would be amazing. A remaster or continuing game of it.

That's what was actually planned for The Force Unleashed 3, but it got scrapped along with a few other games when Disney took over LucasFilm in 2012

An altered niman style that also incorporates the best aspects of form 7 would probably become the ultimate lightsaber form.

@@luciferofatlantis6894 I believe that's how Mace Windu and Sora Bulq developed Vapaad, with the former mastering it to perfection.

Its a tradeoff, yes its versatile and has no major weaknesses but there is also lack of strengths. You just cant be great at everything.

@@MrMultiWilk That's why Force Sensitives have the Force to compensate for what Niman cannot provide for its practitioners.

​@@luciferofatlantis6894 That with Obi-Wan and Vader's mastery of form 3 Soresu would be unstoppable.

he wasnt proficient in it, he was a full fledged master of soresu, comparable to obi-wan which is also why he was so good at it, he fought training modules of obi-wan, specifically ones given to anakin, as well as studying footage of it and having practical use of it. he used it against vader which is why he won, he used it against shaak ti which is why he won, he even did it against his training droid proxy from which he learnt almost everything there is to know about dueling

@@ProdBlessings deinitely Galen is a master of Soresu, but NEVER to the level that Obi-Wan is. Although Proxy does have the programs of many fighters including Obi-Wan and Maul, both completely opposite in both defense and ofense. But despite having all their skills and tactics, Proxy could not push it as much as the originals because he lacks Force Enhancement, so there is a limit to his skills. His level of Soresu was enough for him to outlast Shak Tii until her mistake, but he felt lucky he had survived to Shak Tii's attacks. Against Vader, he went all out from the beginning agains Galen, so I do agree that he survived Vader for his Soresu skills. But still, Vader is at his best when he metodically attacks, not wild attacks (watch the Kenobi serie). So... it was a bad strategy for Vader because he underestimated his opponent's defensive skills and he burned out quickly, but still Galen skills where great. NOT Obi Wan level... but a masters level nonetheless

@@andres0v916 I say comparable to obi wan level in how it was described, shaak ti used makashi and after seeing obi wan vs dooku we all know makashi is a perfect counter to soresu, yes Galen felt lucky but that doesn't mean he was lucky, the form shaak ti used was ataru/makashi hybrid so she most likely tired herself out and galen capitalized and extended his blade so she impaled herself. He most likely felt lucky that her blade missed him, but not lucky to have beaten her in itself. As for Vader, he didn't exactly underestimate galen, he knew from the get go to try and that's why the novel says how every strike vader used was lethal in intent, and how all he needed was a chink in the apprentices defenses to end the duel. vader himself used a makashi, djem so, juyo hybrid which is what made him so lethal, makashi and juyo are the 2 forms that directly counter form 3 yet not even vader, who was considered one of the best duelists in the galaxy, could counter starkillers soresu. Juyo itself can only be countered by an equally offensive duelist, such as ataru, djem so, shien, vapaad or juyo itself, and even then, the offensive must begin immediately if not it's too late to counter it. I'm not saying he's better than obi wan as he doesn't have the patience obi wan did, but he's at least comparable in his adaptability and usage of it, managing to use it against the forms exact counters and winning. Even obi wan loses to makashi and juyo, it's why he lost to maul in episode 1 (all be it he used ataru heavily as well) and dooku (who he solely used soresu on). Many were masters of soresu but few got to the mastery of obi wan and starkiller. And yeah I remember starkiller having to remind PROXY that ataru doesn't work without the force after he tried jumping him as qui gon that shit was funny.

two reverse grip fighters that eventually started dual wielding introduced in the same year?

@@th0rn3 But at different time frames. Something that some fanfic writers forget.

Antoinne Bandele already made such a video! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eMh-naZolpOvhmg.html

@LifeRuiner I said I want to see them fight to see who would win. I think they would have the best duel though they aren't the most powerful. I know they are among the strongest but they were both dominated by the Emperors of their time so they definitely are not the strongest.

@@BerserkerX In the games Starkiller had to simultaneously take on both sidious and vader, and in some outcomes he survived. There are an incredibly limited amount of people that could do that. Also he beat darth who is considered to be one of the most strongest so I think its fair to say that starkiller is at least one of the strongest.

@@amaarsiddique1290 he beat Cader because of how familiar he us with Jo's style due to training together and Starkiller never had a chance against Sidious. He stacks up to Sidious how Revan stacks up against Vitiate

Training period, youth, assassination missions and stuff. I think origin is a good place to start.

This is how I feel as well. Galen would be completely gutted if he found his way into Disney canon. He's one of the few that I would rather they just left alone unless someone like Filoni were given total freedom to do whatever he wanted with it.

but the thing is, he eventually becomes a jedi. they could let him show up once in a while and then just tell others he became a hermit that isnt active anymore or something so it doesnt destroy the entire storyline

@@kevinkever Yeah but then the question will always be, "Why don't they just go get Galen?" whenever things get difficult. It's the same thing they did with Luke in the Disney trilogy. Like, they knew Luke was out there somewhere so the storyline characters gambled on finding him and him helping them. You see this kind of stuff with Superman in old comics, Thor and Hulk in Marvel, or even guys like Omni-Man in Invincible. When those guys show up it's basically time for everyone else to take a seat and because the designated hitter is up at bat. That's why they had to write out Superman with his death several times, send Thor to Asgard for the Ragnarok story, send Hulk to Battleworld to get him out of the way, etc. Galen is a Mary Sue, for sure. It really doesn't make sense for him to be as ludicrously powerful as he is... but we love it, so it is what it is. If a plot tried to expand on it it's very likely it would destroy Galen's character development and leave him as just this big, buff, bad ass without much room for growth because he just shits on everyone that isn't top 5 strongest ever.

Eh...considering how force users have been portrayed in the movies, shows and comics over the past few years, I don't think Starkiller would have to be nerfed all that much.

He has a very compelling story because he kind of grapples between good and evil all the way until the end. After he leaves Vader behind he's not all evil, but he's FAR from being a hero.

Well MAYBE. we ONLY also know he can briefing match power with Sideous too. IF he can in something other then the game ALSO match &/or beat Sideous in Saber v Saber combat then yes for his time he probably would be. As Luke is the only one gonna be capable in this period but he's not at Sideous's level yet

Ahh yes I love when people talk out of there ass 😂 prime Vader beats starkiller in a lightsaber battle an sidious shits on him with ease an I can name 15 plus other people who scale about him in lightsaber combat so do you really wanna have this debate

@@robertagu5533 luke before he was close to his prime beat a prime sidious in a head on duel something starkiller can’t do

@@Gabethemosthated You do know, Star-killer was close to rival Sidious in Sith lightning.

@@Gabethemosthated Dude, Star-killer would wreck Prime Vader. Anakin wouldn't stand a chance!!! 😒🤨😕

careful what you wish for. They might ruin him like they did with Luke

@@erickkisreal9398 ahhh why did you have to bring up Luke!!! 😭

I mean,vader is Anakin so it would make sense why its so similar

Thank you for your comment, youre one of the smarter viewers here. Starkillers main style is Shien, yes. He was vaders pupil tho, so he knows all 5 original forms to at least a knight level.

@@NidokingOtsutsuki I recall Vader being hailed for his Dejm so especially the Hybrid he created later on which you so made video about (beautifully may I add) So that explains the Shein and He was Obi wan's Padawan so you have the Obi's Soresu and Qui-Gon's Ataru.....I remember makashi being a problem for him even when before he became vader (Movies and Comics) BUT wasn't Sidious a makashi/niman specialist? Shi Cho is kind of a given since it's the entry style. Anyway. I enjoy the hell out of your videos. Haven't seen a bad one yet. Keep up the good work and thanks for commentting and the compliment.👍👍😎✌

@@isaiahpavlik1430 youre 100% correct. makashi is form 2 if im not mistaken, was dookus style, which was the biggest hurdle anakin ever faced before becoming vader. Before you say obi-wans soresu, anakin fought him after falling to the sith side.

@@NidokingOtsutsukiI doubled down and Dooku's damn near the poster child for Makashi. I had no idea he had perfected it. 😱 I just remembered how he beat Obi wan and Anakin. But I say Obi wan's Soseru because after Jinn's death he began to get serious with it and he added his own spin to it and perfected it. The fight ending fake stab into a head slash in the recent series fight is a good example because he got Jinn's Ataru and remember he got a an aging Jinn not an Aged Jinn so he had a got mix of Air and quick cuts attacks. A great example is his first fight with Maul and how he killed him. My point being🤣 Anakin got some of training. 💯

Juyo is there. Star killer uses all 7 forms. Juyo is blended in with the other styles. Shein, as well as it’s reverse grip is the foundation.I have to admit Niman is interesting. I still prefer Juyo/Vaapad over it. When it comes to including Force attacks in or with there lightsaber sequences Vaapad is right there with Niman, including Juyo as well, it depends on who’s wielding the style because no two practitioners of Juyo wields it the same way, nor practitioners of Vaapad including Mace and Sora. All those practitioners of Niman died in the Petranaki Arena because they all wielded Niman the same way,except A’Sharad Hett who later became Darth Kraft.

Juyo is dangerous enough as is. Niman is well balanced to answer the chaos and Jar'Kai can compliment any lightsaber and flexible of offense and defense

@@DeathScepter I love Jar’Kai myself

I'm not entirely familiar with Starkiller, but I know enough. Combined with the force, Niman and Juyo is deadly. Mostly for darksiders and extremely high powered force adepts. But for a standard Jedi you have a severe weakness to multiple blaster wielding foes (like the clones/stormtroopers) and would be among the 3 Masters instantly killed by Sidious due to it falls short to those who can read it and provide a answer.

@@cmath6454 fortunately, a above average Jedi can train to eliminate those weaknesses

Also allow the player to pause the game and switch forms at will which brings up a different move list

Luke does, prime luke in legends is considered the best duelist in history an is unmatched by anyone if he goes full force

Ahsoka wouldn't

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Who are you referring to?

Think you’re confusing Starkiller with Kylo Ren

Goofy? More like badass lol

It has certain practical applications.

@Go 01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 01101111 01100110 01100110 forehand allows that. That's why it was used throughout history. Backhand weakens your power, range, and has less variety. It looks cool though. We don't need to justify it anymore than that.

Nah it's so badass