Stars, Stones, Sacrifice, and Utopia in 'Picatrix: A Medieval Treatise on Astral Magic'

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The Modern Hermeticist

The Modern Hermeticist

5 жыл бұрын

Topics: Reception of the text in Renaissance; recovery of the text in 20th century; Personal interests in the text; Crystals and gemstones; sacrifice; Adocentyn as magical utopia
Speakers: Dan Attrell and Dr. David Porreca [co-translators]
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@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 5 жыл бұрын
We have a bit of a mic issue until about the 20 minute mark, and then David's voice clears up a bit more. Don't forget to like, sub, and leave a comment.
@duantorruellas716
@duantorruellas716 5 жыл бұрын
Feb 2019 you said it will be ready , i will definitely buy one , sounds like you did a great job on this translation from the vulgate hahaha. But yeah ive been waiting for this.
@starkops
@starkops 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent -in its proper definition
@brad5150able
@brad5150able 4 жыл бұрын
I shall be getting this academic translation pretty soon. I am a current student of Christopher Warnocks Astrological Magic Course that is from his Renaissance Astrology website. Hope to actually put this to actual, real world workings one day. On lesson 3, and so 12 more long lessons to go, which could take me years, from what I researched. Still, a very engaging study and course syllabus thus far, to say the least. I find this work to be pretty interesting, as was this dual exchange on the Picatrix topic.
@athenassigil5820
@athenassigil5820 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dan, aka The Modern Hermeticist. Well, I've watched and listened to your material for years and I finally have a copy of The Picatrix! I literally ordered it yesterday....and received it that very night. I didn't open it till this morning and love the construction and content of your endeavors made into an actual book. My only complaint....it needs a deluxe leatherbound version..I'd pay for that, too! I've re-listened to this very video twice, this very morning as I've been looking through the text. Just thought I'd pass on that a working class guy like me, has become so interested in all the interesting and to some rather archaic material. You, Justin Sledge and a few others are leading a mini rennaissance on the study of the metaphysical and Magickal.....and so much more! Cheers!
@johnnewton8017
@johnnewton8017 Жыл бұрын
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 5 жыл бұрын
oh, cool... you are the person who got me into grimoires; this last year, ive learned quite a bit: the picatrix, agrippa, and basically opened the whole world of these amazing books to me :)) im looking forward to your translation x.
@CoffeeConsumerZoomer
@CoffeeConsumerZoomer 5 жыл бұрын
Grimiors are so fascinating! But I have so much trouble *understanding* what they're trying to say haha.
@vipralykos5456
@vipralykos5456 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe by the phrasing of "Hermes Occulted himself from Humankind; such that none in his presence could see him." is possibly describing something that Happened to Hermes in his Spiritual Mastery. To where he has reached a state of Gnosis, that which those in his presence could no longer relate to nor understand or connect with him on a Human Level. This is probably why it states that it was "Humankind" who could not see him. They might have seen the face and body of the man, but they could no longer see HIM on a Human level. Because he has essentially Become a God. This is one of those things that we find within some Shamanic traditions where the Shaman is changed or evolved Spiritually to such a degree that they are considered to be More than Human by members of the tribe or society. Anyways that's just a thought I wanted to put out there. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the phrase. but who knows maybe others have thought the same.
@profbri.02
@profbri.02 Жыл бұрын
44:24 I believe that "experiment" is a good word to use here. In fact, I've heard that some of the earliest uses of the word "experiment" were in reference to completing the steps of a magickal act. Love ur work. Peace 🙏.
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist Жыл бұрын
🙏
@SnarlaRae
@SnarlaRae 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered it, so excited! Thank You!!!
@poitersdelarosinides1833
@poitersdelarosinides1833 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I look forward to the next one.
@ieoo8283
@ieoo8283 5 жыл бұрын
This is DIVINE! I’m looking forward to purchasing your version. I also own a copy of The Picatrix.
@firethorn007
@firethorn007 5 жыл бұрын
1:10:00 utopian city, surveillance state (statues detecting sins) 1:14:00 quote --book 4, chapter 3, section 1
@drjohndee4322
@drjohndee4322 3 жыл бұрын
I was worried about this video because it is hour and a half. But I really enjoyed it and it was a great video. I learned a lot from it !
@andytuesday500
@andytuesday500 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy this. Thank you for all your videos.
@TheBrightStarofCain
@TheBrightStarofCain 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work and channel!
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@DouglasHinz
@DouglasHinz 6 ай бұрын
The four... Creator Sustainer Destroyer and Resurrection/Rebirth.
@phillipbernhardt-house6907
@phillipbernhardt-house6907 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, as always! I have a source for dog in the four animal gates of Adocentyn: a PGM spell related to Hermes, which also has a similar directional structure to the text (often found in Egyptian works). It may not be a "source," but at least a close analogue. Anyway, if you want the specific reference, let me know!
@primamateria7828
@primamateria7828 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work ♥️
@chadsperandeo7626
@chadsperandeo7626 5 жыл бұрын
The four faces, Lion, Eagle, Bull, and Man, are the symbols of the four fixed signs that form a Cross in the universe and in the Astrological window thru which the Christ figure comes into the world. See the TAROT card known as the world (traditional Raider W deck). The center is the divine feminine intuitive being in the Vesica Pieces shape, surrounded by the garland made of 22 leaves representing the letters of the aleph-bet. The square shape of the card represents the masculine body that comes thru the time space window marked by the four fixed signs at each corner. The feminine in the masculine. The circle in the square. The four faces also reference the four letters of the name, YUD HEY VAV HEY, And the four elements Air earth fire water. You can google Vesica Pieces and see image examples.
@eraofmyways
@eraofmyways 24 күн бұрын
The most powerful languages for magic are Semitic, as they are cymatic languages using the fire letters of spirit.
@robertpaulcorless7949
@robertpaulcorless7949 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you x
@Prudenthermit
@Prudenthermit 2 жыл бұрын
"we should name them" thank you
@indiasamara
@indiasamara 3 жыл бұрын
How do you perform proper purification’s
@JimKernix
@JimKernix 5 жыл бұрын
At 1:26:05 you mention the 4 faces and what they represent. They are quite common (check out Chartres Cathedral) and from my understanding, they represent the 4 fixed signs of the zodiac. The bull is Taurus, the lion is Leo, the Eagle is Scorpio and the man is Aquarius. Scorpio is either the scorpion, the eagle or the Phoenix. And I also believe it's their respective ages Great Year that they represent, not of the annual zodiac - but it may be both.
@snacklepussPSN
@snacklepussPSN 5 жыл бұрын
In the Bible its easy to see Ezekials Wheel which has Four of the Faces that represent the bodywork of the Beasts [Royal Rulers/Owners] The obvious main beast is Society: Man is immediately attached as a member of compulsory Society: Another Beast is the Holy World or Ecclesiastical [all organized Religion] Another is compulsory Educational and others the Medical ~ Magical ~ Science and so on: The more the Beasts change; the more they stay the same even as the world progresses; which is why it has wheels within it wheels [Ezekials vision for the future] or horns upon its ten heads [other elements to add or replace with according to the Time] Their Language and Math have us tied to the Beast "Here is Wisdom: Let him calculate the numbers of the Beast" This = Math = Markets = Economy and so on: A blueprint for rulers to own us: Admittedly its obvious that owners have got us by the Bulls Balls: Right from as soon as we were registered stock through our Birth Certificates or Bond to the World: Until the World has released itself ~ it is imprisoned naturally because we are consentual in it even right now as `its too much to undo` in our heads: “Time and Space … It is not nature which imposes them upon us, it is we who impose them upon nature because we find them convenient.” H.Poincare
@dragonhorizon1074
@dragonhorizon1074 4 жыл бұрын
Huge fan
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@jakemcnamee9417
@jakemcnamee9417 5 жыл бұрын
I've been looking ar ancient coins. I am curious about the meanings in them. For instance some have Athena aonone sside and what looks like grain on the other. And then there is another coin where there is a rooster on one side and Athena on the other I bought one with Athena on one side and Nike on the other. Anyway interested in the possibly if coins being used in the amulets
@brad5150able
@brad5150able 3 жыл бұрын
This awesome book is not cheap, and they reveal this up front. I have the Greer & Warnock version,. I am looking forward to Dr. Saif Arabic version. It will be interesting to compare the Latin to the Arabic translation version. I really enjoy studying traditional astrology.
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 3 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping to have her on the show sometime in the near future. She's been really busy over the last year so I may ask her again soon.
@funningames2243
@funningames2243 2 жыл бұрын
1:02:15 can you give specifics please?
@braddaulton3976
@braddaulton3976 5 жыл бұрын
Ancient pagan liturgies, that would be amazing
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting talk. But I can't find Liana Saif on twitter. Can you help me out here? You mention her at around 29:48.
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 5 жыл бұрын
@MaslamaQ
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheModernHermeticist thanks a lot!
@sedakame1
@sedakame1 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to start listening to your encyclopedia series from the beginning but the 1st few are missing ;(
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 5 жыл бұрын
...and they're back!
@rebeccacooper2874
@rebeccacooper2874 5 жыл бұрын
The houses are the zodiacal houses and the Bull, Eagle, Lion and Man are the 4 fixed signs of the zodiac. The dog being replaced by the Man is a little confusing, but considering the area being along trade routes in ancient times it could be a different constellation in use then. I believe they used 34 or 36 main constellations, where we use 12.. The house the Sun is in would be of that Age.. Probably Leo or Aries the Ram.. It's all Astrotheology.
@rebeccacooper2874
@rebeccacooper2874 5 жыл бұрын
The dog is the Star Sirius.. I checked real quick.. The spells pertaining to material matters are insignificant, but other aspects of the book showing links to metals and spiritual alchemy would be fruitful for the process of the Great Work of a Practioner reaching the goal of Sage..
@rebeccacooper2874
@rebeccacooper2874 4 жыл бұрын
@Brian Brinck Nielsen yes thank you. Sirius is the dog star..
@dominicwinter7471
@dominicwinter7471 4 жыл бұрын
Sirius Major is the dog. Sirius minor is a fox. Story has that sirius major was a hound that always caught what it hunted. And sirius minor was a fox that could always evade its prey. Once they encountered they made a paradox and continued the chase into infinity (the more you know)
@johnDoe-yt4bx
@johnDoe-yt4bx 5 жыл бұрын
8:30. 6:00. 40:00. 43:00. 45:00
@patrickmontes8971
@patrickmontes8971 2 жыл бұрын
Modern herm what is your opinion of illusionists David Blane and Chris Angel is what they are showing real or fake Thank you in advance
@patrickmontes8971
@patrickmontes8971 2 жыл бұрын
@PsyMan Magus X you're welcome
@patrickmontes8971
@patrickmontes8971 2 жыл бұрын
@PsyMan Magus X anytime you are my Brother
@jakemcnamee9417
@jakemcnamee9417 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to create some amulets snd other tools. Besides symbology I'm also interested in crystals but can't find any practicing ocxultutists talking about them. Just ditsy new agers doing a sales pitch for one type or another. I'd like to get the perfect combination in an amulrt
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 5 жыл бұрын
Someone worth checking out is tonymackgoldsmith.com/ - he's a really nice guy and I'm sure if you had questions he'd be up your alley. There's also Christopher Warnock's stuff that you can check out for practical talisman crafting material (renaissanceastrology.com). There are others, but you just need to look for people who work on traditional medieval talismanic magic and avoid the crystal new ager people.
@jakemcnamee9417
@jakemcnamee9417 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the references. I will check out those people, sorry for the late response. At least I have a vast gem collection by now
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakemcnamee9417 what i gathered from people like FR. Aaron Leitch who lives in Florida and practices Solomonic Magic, is that it's all about making it during the proper hours for what it is that you want from it, and so you must choose the proper angel/deity and then go thru the corresponding rituals. YOu can't just choose any stone or parchment or ink, or any diety...and then you must call them down. To me, it's prob the most "demonic" magic since you are literally calling them to your presence and then asking them/commanding them to give powers intot his talisman. I have the book of Abremelin...so you need to to do that very long (one year?) ritual to have a good relationship with your Holy Guardian Angel. Because when that spirit shows up, its your HGA which helps to control it the most- not you!//// I don;t know if this branch of Solomonc Magic is totally different from the Picatrix kind of magic. I do have books of magic squares for this purpose of making talismans on wax or parchment, and they are so amusing to me! My fave one was, "To incur the love of a priest" haha.//////AS far as stones, YES- i was reading that in many ancient cultures, as was mentioned in the video, the rays from the stellar bodies directly infused the stones buried in the earth with their particular powers, and the stones would maintain those properties. //In China before the Western Zhou Dynasty (1046-771 BC), the belief about what virtue was and about what jade was, was so cool- it wasn't moral, but it was an essential life-force sent by a celestial animal from the heavens tian....and the wearers of jade felt that very essence of heaven on their bodies. But in The later Eastern Zhou, this belief in jade and other stones and crystals as having communion with Astral bodies totally changed.////I would love to have a book that went thru all of the beliefs of ancient civs as far as astrology and stones. --- the one site was cool but i cant afford like, 3000 $ talismans. :) //but i do know that at the doc solomons site for Aaron, he will do the rituals and make talismans. AS far as jewelry...you'd have to ask him bc i think he mostly does parchment and metal and wood!
@mandys1505
@mandys1505 2 жыл бұрын
i was looking around , and i found a cheap used book for like 12 bucks of this medieval stones lore book...some of it based on the picatrix: "A Lapidary of sacred Stones; Their Medical and Magical powers based on the earliest sources" by Claude Lecouteux. / Also the translation by Alfonso The Wise , "The Lapidary, Treatise on Stones", and you can get those in cheap or very lavish editions :))
@atmanbrahman1872
@atmanbrahman1872 5 жыл бұрын
54:00 Not quite true the distinction between Semitic sacrifice and non-semitic. You have whole burnings outside semite world and you also have communal meal sacrifices (like the Pascal lamb) in the semitic world. So, a false dichotomy there...
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 5 жыл бұрын
You're correct, it's a generalization.
@tylorrichmond3134
@tylorrichmond3134 5 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you jesus
@blueresonantmonkey3188
@blueresonantmonkey3188 5 жыл бұрын
Talk of Tartary and all this mud flood stuff please if you may, you are a prime candidate to do so
@deathstarHQ
@deathstarHQ 4 жыл бұрын
From my research, of which i have concluded from having access to a vast library of very early historical literature, and also my previous historical knowledge i accumulated over the past 22 years, of which very little to none is main stream. The Great Empire of Tartary, like most of history has been, and continues to be occulted, but most historical civilizations, events, wars, and super surges in the accumulation of objective and subjective knowledge, spooring a lengthy domino effect in science, mathematics, physics etc. are, to the ruling hands, spanners in the works. That being said, the majority of written history is and always has been available, especially since the dawning of the internet, and this is of course how they are able to get away with such things, as all history cannot be taught,k there is just so much, so they select what fits a premeditated narrative, and shelve the rest, if you don't know what to search for then you are hardly likely to stumble upon it. So, the Great Tartary, an empire so massive it's a hard one to comprehend, but, i have some answers. They, were a merger, a civil progression of domination, over powering for new territory, but realized instead of simply slaying the people, they would combine knowledge of building techniques sciences, technologies and philosophical idea's, and also mix and have children with certain civilizations that would mix well with their lineage, which many are unaware are rooted in the khassi people. They, like many past civilizations that grew within a world of free thought, combined with self knowledge and time to reflect, observe and put knowledge learned into practice, so when many combine from very different perspectives the knowledge base becomes a super power and so the civilization, as a whole, mirrors this superior quality and so the result was an empire as big as Russia, but unlike Russia the land was all built upon and colonized. The technologies they used within their cities was implosive and non destructive energies, super symmetrical centripetal plasma physics, which is Earth and atmospheric magnetism held in coherence until it becomes a self sufficient and self contained fractal field, and it was achieved within domed cathedrals with perfect harmonic geometry, channeling the midday rays from the sun through the eye of the dome, and the hidden underground alter of the crypt, which amplifies the telluric currents conjugating at the convergence of multiple leylines, the bigger cathedrals also had parallel aquifers running adjacent with the leys at the cross point, and the field would initially be built to fractality within a sarcophagus made from a dielecric material. They also has amazing inventions that they used in hotter parts of the world to draw hot air and circulate it in a similar toroidal manner to cool through the day, but as the heat outside cools as day turns to night, the temperature and therefore the pressure of outside and inside equalize the polarity of the vortexes reverse, it's the collision within the airflow's that oppose the temperatures within the building. There's much more but it will take me all day to write, But i must say this, the people that have become somewhat obsessed with the history are really going about research in a very odd manner, firstly however they stumbled upon the subject has been forgotten, so instead of digging deep for the subjective and objective historical accounts that are in abundance as their would be from quite recent civilization of mass proportions that built some incredible buildings worldwide, but have now added a Mud Flood, an event that, in my opinion requires some explanation before attaching it to history as something that happened, a standard flood, and obviously cataclysmic flooding deposits mass amounts of silt, mud etc. but they think, from looking at photo's from 1800's and drawings from the 1600's etc showing buildings below the the ones they are ripping down or have collapsed is normality worldwide, nearly every building especially sacred, governmental and religious buildings are built on previous sites multiple times, strengthening the foundations and the structural integrity of the building every time, we have been building on this Earth for 100's of thousands of years, Cyclical refreshing and resurfacing of the earth occurs like clockwork, meaning a chain reaction of Volcanic eruptions, earthquakes etc causing new geological sedimentary, and volcanic rock layering.... and also the freezing into ice ages and then the melting and sudden distribution. But the mud flood fanatics think that a house with a cellar window, a common building incorporation from 1600's onward is clear evidence of a cataclysmic global flood, dispensing not just a 2ft layer of mud over the earth, but 15-20meters of the stuff, some even think that entire mountains have disappeared under mud. Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinion and theory, but most of these fanatics are pushing their opinion religiously on KZfaq, with a cheeky grin on their faces as if to say i now know the biggest secret ever and one up on the goverment, when in fact it was never removed from the history, it just wasnt announced or taught, and on top of that, there were history documentaries i watched as a child on The Great Tatary. Sorry for rambling on, but i hope this may have given you some information that maybe you could research further.
@TobiasRavnpettersen-ny4xv
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@artsolomon202
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@heatherferguson4085 5 жыл бұрын
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