Will AI Replace Us? With Neil deGrasse Tyson & Matt Ginsberg

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Is artificial intelligence taking over? Neil deGrasse Tyson and co hosts Chuck Nice and Gary O’Reilly discuss deepfakes, AI hallucinations, and whether AI really is intelligent with software engineer at X, the moonshot factory, Matt Ginsberg.
Have we been using AI in the right way? We explore deepfakes and the technology to verify an image’s legitimacy. Is artificial intelligence really intelligent? We break down what AI can and cannot understand. Does AI understand causality? Or even reality?
What is AI bad at? Could it help us discover objects and phenomena we never knew to look for? We discuss how it could help us explore space or call plays in a football game. Could we one day see AI calling plays instead of coaches? Do two machine coaches cancel eachother out?
Can AI predict the weather? We discuss the concept of chaos and how close we are to artificial general intelligence. Find out about AI’s relationship to the truth and how we can combat people using it to spread misinformation. Finally, could deepfakes become so good that it's the end of the internet?
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00:00 - Introduction: Is AI good or Bad?
03:00 - X, Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory
09:16 - Detecting Deepfakes
13:03 - Are we using AI correctly?
16:32 - Will AI make the next deep space discovery?
22:30 - AI vs. Humans
23:40 - AI Calling Plays
34:12 - Can We Predict Natural Disasters?
39:30 - Artificial General Intelligence & Hallucinations
44:17 - Combating Misinformation
48:45 - Is it the End of the Internet?

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@StarTalk 11 ай бұрын

What do you think we'll use AI for as it continues to develop?

@chineseelonmusk9712 10 ай бұрын

Do physical labor most efficiently

@FacesintheStone 10 ай бұрын

We will use it to design manufacturing processes that will create raw materials or final products autonomously. Natural intelligence is something that has gotten us very far, we are able to fly, create vaccines, I think we should learn from natural intelligence before we start creating our own.

@wildgoose419 10 ай бұрын

We should use AI to call out people's BS, unless that AI is designed to do BS, in which case we'll let the non-BS AI duke it out with BS AI, and watch the confrontation with beer, wings, fries, dips, and some occasional celery sticks.

@RoboKubik8 10 ай бұрын

Given enough training data it can do anything. Human brain evolved into what it is now and AI evolves quite similarly. Different training models and approaches will teach them different things.

@KentonJoseph 10 ай бұрын

Map asteroids with threat determination would be good.

@BenD_Bass 11 ай бұрын

At first, I came here to learn and listen to science space stuff. But after like 100 episodes, I'm excited for Chuck. I know Neil and the comment section always pick on him, but that dude is so smart. I don't base smartness on degrees and how much you know. I think not being afraid to ask questions and asking the right questions. He's like good at being curious

@drewparcel1727 11 ай бұрын

He is good at asking the question that we are all thinking and wanting to ask ourselves.

@xtins 11 ай бұрын

Wtf are you talking about? He’s pretty smart, is his ROLE to make it comical … 😅

@loccc88 11 ай бұрын

I agree. I also feel that stand up comedians in general are naturally smart people. It takes a very unique kind of brain to come up with a funny line on the spot.

@MrTekniqs 11 ай бұрын

You understand that education does not equal intelligence. I applaud you.

@JesseJames83 11 ай бұрын

Also here for Chuck

@eric-. 11 ай бұрын

Chuck came PREPARED for this conversation! contagious enthusiasm, as usual. 👍

@brian9731 11 ай бұрын

I've rarely if ever seen Chuck so serious on this show as he is in parts of this show.

@dustylong 8 ай бұрын

I liked it a lot 😁

@daniellecolon2281 4 ай бұрын

So serious for real

@Random_user_8472 11 ай бұрын

The honesty, humor and great energy between these guys makes the whole video, everytime again!

@KentonJoseph 10 ай бұрын

Topics and conversation is great and moves topics forward. Also Chuck is great at keeping it lively.

@B3R34L 11 ай бұрын

Sometimes i wish Startalk would hire a animator to animate in a simple way what some explanations looks like. I've seen it a few times but if all explainers contained animations then i think starttalk could gain so much more followers and views. Just a thought

@frogz 11 ай бұрын

honestly this could be good, i dont want it to be done infographics style though.... if you make something cheap, it will feel cheap

@Bull1the1Great 11 ай бұрын

I always said this . At least now with AI lol, animators have an easier time ...

@jhsounds 11 ай бұрын

Regarding the John Lennon AI story: McCartney has clarified that AI was merely used to isolate the vocal from an existing Lennon demo recording, in order to clean it up for a new song. Lennon's voice was not "synthesized".

@robertadams6606 11 ай бұрын

That's correct his voice was already on the Demo. They just isolated it so his voice would remain in the song. There were 2 songs that were done that way. Free as a Bird & Real Love.

@ilymortygivegrandpaakiss5231 11 ай бұрын

We need to accept that failures are a great way to learn.

@animeshsrivastava2398 11 ай бұрын

Clearly, One of the best episodes on this channel. Matt is so articulate in his thoughts and so precise when he speaks. I like his clarity about social concepts. Chuck and Garry too are having such insightful questions. Just love to see some experts talk about things they are expert in.

@barryscully1820 11 ай бұрын

As a physicist and systems architect for statistical analysis on large scale data it has been interesting to see the progression over the last few years of Machine learning. The part that does concern me is if there is a point where computers actually "learn" on their own coming to decisions that were not programmed for them. This to me would be the major change between Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence (although I'm sure there is a better definition out there). If that point comes then computers will be able to show us new things in data that we didn't think of which is exciting but it is also a bit of a scary tipping point.

@LaurentCassaro 11 ай бұрын

That's what the AI singularity is. The starting point, actually, when it starts to learn by itself and take decisions that weren't programmed. Once that happens, we don't know what CAN happen next. You might look into the famous paperclip maximizer analogy. A lot of people thought about this very subject decades ago, when all we had were expert systems and AI was mere science fiction.

@bw-g2539 11 ай бұрын

I feel like this will come with quantum computers

@LaurentCassaro 11 ай бұрын

@bw-g2539 Maybe. Or if they remove the "can't learn from interactions" and the "no memory beyond the current session" built-in limitations, that are obvious safeguards. OpenAI don't want to be taken responsible for the Chat-GPT starting to write weird stuff, that I can understand. Just allowing it to gather more information online (Auto-GPT) has already produced some freaking results.

@nBasedAce 11 ай бұрын

AI is a scam and you all bought into it. Real AI is sentient not just a complicated program.

@Kelticfury 11 ай бұрын

I think we need better terminology since capitalism has co-opted the term artificial intelligence to mean any output that appears coherent. When a machine intelligence becomes conscious is, to me, when we have actual artificial intelligence. Until then it is just some clever trickery.

@ashmomofboys 11 ай бұрын

My biggest fear of AI is that humans won’t have time to adapt. AI growth is exponential. Humans need time to adapt to change and AI is about to change the world the way cell phones did in half the time. And much bigger impacts. I worry we won’t adapt in time.

@paulsterman7169 11 ай бұрын

The best scene from the movie War Games is when the main character asks the computer if the military mobilization for WWW3 was a game or if it was real, and the computer answered: "What is the difference?" That is a problem with AI that needs to be worked out.

@geekdomo 11 ай бұрын

Nazareth University in Rochester NY now has a full AI Bachelors of Science Degree. AI is here to stay might be best to learn about it and how to use responsibly.

@rafaelweaver5592 11 ай бұрын

My Goodness Neil,Chuck and Gary this episode relieved a terrible amount of anxiety for me bless you guys ❤❤❤

@tanishasinagra1476 11 ай бұрын

Chuck is so incredibly smart ! I love him and his quick witted quips. Love this show so much !

@sheld0n 11 ай бұрын

We watched him get smarter over the years by hanging out with the right crowd :)

@njorgard 11 ай бұрын

Neil & Co. need to do more episodes on this subject. They certainly have a cohort of scientists that could offer various different points of view on the subject.

@doneestoner9945 10 ай бұрын

I remember Stephen Hawking saying that he thinks AI will be dangerous.

@user-cw5ph8ey6d 11 ай бұрын

As a huge Beatles fan and a music producer: as far as I know they did NOT “sample” or create an AI model of Lennon’s voice. What I have heard (read) Paul and Ringo say is that machine learning was used to separate noise, instruments (piano) and voice so that a whole production could be built around the usable elements. Huge difference. Plus, they did that (the separation of sounds) for the Let It Be movie and Revolver album re-mix. And what they did (finishing a song) is not that different from what was done in 1995 by the band. Super nerdy comment I just had to make 😂

@zlotchew 11 ай бұрын

This may be your best show that I’ve seen. Really important subject matter and serious but entertaining discussion.

@rangerCG 11 ай бұрын

This was great and Matt Ginsberg offered sharp and knowledgeable insight into AI and other topics. I'd like to ask if you could also have experts on who are knowledgeable about AI risk who are outside of the AI industry, people who look into potential problems with AI in of itself like Max Tegmark, Geoffrey Hinton, Yoshua Bengio, Eliezer Yudkowsky, or others. Thanks for the great episode!

@user-lr9yc8gt1q 11 ай бұрын

What a great interview!!!!! Communication and education will set us all FREE!!!

@TheCardanoArmy 11 ай бұрын

The humor and pacing really helps me digest these complex topics better. Such a good recipe you guys have in this channel.

@kenny.gabriel.2 11 ай бұрын

I just want to say that I'm very thankful for this discourse and Star Talk. I wish this was available when I was growing up only 20 years ago. This is amazing.

@marsrideroneofficial 8 ай бұрын

If the www was there 20 years ago, I could've saved time and money doing what I love and not go to school at all which was my plan, but I have to follow the usual path.

@kenny.gabriel.2 8 ай бұрын

@marsrideroneofficial Just imagine if we have all the resources and infinite insight of the WWW back then. However, I'm grateful for the outside time making mud pies, catching frogs, and chasing the cattle at grandaddy's farm. 😊

@7346908 11 ай бұрын

You are a legend. Thank you for sharing knowledge and meaningful insights. Lucky to be in this age.

@roaminromer 11 ай бұрын

I love how Startalk has only a general direction of conversation and the conversation just flows from there.

@newmountfilms 11 ай бұрын

This was amazing, I could have listened for longer! Its good to hear different perspectives on this topic, especially after finishing a short film on the dangers of a.i ourselves. Neil deGrasse Tyson is a legend in this field!

@danielteran8067 11 ай бұрын

AI is replacing us. I'm an Illustrator and since the development of A.I "art images" apps, the clients NO longer want to go directly with a real illustrator, rather they prefer to save money, not pay anything, just grab the images of the illustrator or artist you like and download them into the app, it will do the job for you free and in seconds, when going to a real illustrator would take days and money to create a piece of art or any type of illustration. This seems great to any user and companies but for us the illustrators artist means the end of work commissions. Just in the weeks I have lost several clients that decided to continue working with the apps rather than working with me. The real problem here is that the A.I need us the artists to come up with the styles, the machine then copy the artists styles and make them obsolete, not paying any kind of retribution to the real artists from were it feeds. Does this sound fair to the art community?. Meanwhile these companies are making millions of dollars just for getting the people to use their products. Products that are being developed NOT considering the artists right to their work and images. There should be a law or laws that protect us artist from companies and people users robbing the images rights, if the companies want to use my images they should ask if I want to lend them my images, and if I don't want to participate they should respect that, or pay royalties for the use of my images. You have to understand the images of the artist are THE FUEL (A FUEL that isn't being paid or recognized, its has been taken for granted) of these apps, without them they can NOT produce the quality and rich variants art images that they can produce now.

@danielteran8067 11 ай бұрын

Here is a suggestion: Next time you do a A.I podcast episode invite the people who's jobs are being affected (artists, writers, actors, voice actors, illustrators) and ask them how they are doing. You will get a much better complete picture of A.I impact in real life right now.

@Julian-to7ro 11 ай бұрын

Such an interesting episode. Love it, it really makes you think 🥰

@shubhomkar7447 11 ай бұрын

This was really insightful podcast. it gave me a while new realms to explore. It also gave a point of view which I wouldn't have thought myself.

@anwaypradhan6591 11 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, every advanced and pogressive science and technological inventions and innovations, every science and technological gadgets, every micro to macro tools should always be for betterment of people of society, human friendly, transparent, forever technically transformative and sustainable; rather should always be aiming in strengthening people mentally, physically and spiritually, solving every human complexities and contradictions, should always be advancing human civilisation in every ways, through every developed and pogressive version of art, literature and culture.

@wilmaroles4375 11 ай бұрын

Great show, love the interaction with all participants.

@sketchtheparadigmyork1217 11 ай бұрын

21:00 I feel like I thought of a good analogy. You have an ai camera looking at a piece of paper with an infinite number of shapes drawn on it. (The paper representing space time and the shapes being things in that reality.) The paper is infinitely big with every possible shape there can be, even new shapes. But no matter what, the ai wouldn’t be able to find a four dimensional shape. At this point ai doesn’t “think” the way we consider thinking. It’s not going to get creative and go out of the box in any way that hasn’t been programmed. That would be an ai that’s able to self program it’s own original processes I guess… but even that is relatively archaic, because the ai would have to have some kind of conscious choice as to what it’s programming for itself on the spur of the moment. Like, that ai sports play caller isn’t randomly one day going to ask what it’s purpose is and then freak out. That would be like growing a rose being worried it might grow fingers instead of thorns.

@Ken-ki 11 ай бұрын

he got me at "more Beatles songs are an undeniably good thing", love it! 😁

@liveonphoenix5045 11 ай бұрын

The initial appearance of A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) has a profound impact on data privacy, responsibility/accountability, and job displacement.

@deancyrus1 11 ай бұрын

Neil you truly are amazing at getting a hard subject across to the rest of us. I keep sharing episodes to my daughter.

@milosterwheeler2520 11 ай бұрын

The camera doesn't lie - but photographers do.

@KoDaMoJo 11 ай бұрын

"Can your program deflate the ball" wasn't a throwaway joke. What Neil was really asking was, "Can the program Kobayashi Maru a situation?"

@kallamamran 11 ай бұрын

Keep being awesome Neil!!!

@TajimaMunenori 11 ай бұрын

As Stephen Fry once said, "Just because we have elevators and escalators, doesn't mean we've stopped using stairs." Or sometlike that😅

@TajimaMunenori 11 ай бұрын

When computers/machines first started taking peoples jobs, the smarter ones learned to programme and/or repair those computers/machines.

@Jaskol_Wazon 11 ай бұрын

Amazing show. What are the headphones that Matt’s using? Anyone recognized?

@chadfisher9117 11 ай бұрын

I have a question for Matt about his punt prediction model. Curious how, over time, any of the recommendations/predictions have changed? Im guessing that when it was first developed, the data was based on old school thinking about when to punt. But now that you see more teams implementing your suggested approach, have the outcomes changed at all?

@mlginsberg 11 ай бұрын

The decision is made by this big recursive computation, trying to maximize the chances of winning based on statistics about the outcomes of various plays. Those statistics (outcomes of specific plays) are likely pretty stable even as team philosophies change.

@dboii54 11 ай бұрын

For real, Chuck was the best part of the show. That Queen came prepared to talk about sports, encouraging a nerd fight!!!, moral ramifications, and finding their way in or out of the closet, as they see fit. Thank you for one of your best shows: Chuck, and the two nerds. Thank you for asking questions about machine learning, and how it can impact all of us. And also, all the creative fields that are being disrupted because of it... Rules need to be established that put the actual living beings first.

@Eldobbeljoe 11 ай бұрын

😢😅😢😅😢😅😅😅😅😅😅

@Redkisses 11 ай бұрын

The two nerds 😭

@TheRealSkeletor 11 ай бұрын

Queen?

@dboii54 11 ай бұрын

@@TheRealSkeletor when she or he came out of the closet

@TheRealSkeletor 11 ай бұрын

@@dboii54 Who?

@Nefville 11 ай бұрын

If ever there was an interview that raises my red flags, this is it. Startalk did a great job, this guy just wants to deflect questions, dance around difficult answers and pat himself on the back. I'm a fan of AI, I want AGI but I do not want a monopoly like Google getting it first and this guy is doing a great job confirming that for me.

@enadegheeghaghe6369 11 ай бұрын

There are dozens of companies working on different types of AI. Where are you getting this Google AI monopoly stuff from?

@Nefville 11 ай бұрын

@@enadegheeghaghe6369 Google is a monopoly already. Not in AI and I don't want them to become that either.

@alfrilysencarnacion2085 11 ай бұрын

literally most ai experts talking about this stuff keep repeating the same thing, " oh dont worry about being replaced, it will only enhance us", yeah right, total BS

@Nefville 11 ай бұрын

@@alfrilysencarnacion2085 They'll do whatever saves them the most money in order to give more to their shareholders and line the pockets of their executives. They don't care, they just want money. Right now they're using AI as a marketing ploy, "Our AI enhanced product will improve your life, whatever whatever" but with GPT4 and others coming soon, it really is capable of replacing jobs. In fact quite a lot of what I've done in recent jobs could be replaced with AI. Its not if, its when and when is coming soon.

@robertadams6606 11 ай бұрын

@@enadegheeghaghe6369 Have you searched Google? What you see is where they want you to look. You need to look far & wide to get what you really want. They work with these Cos. to put them 1st.

@darkeranewvegas2038 7 ай бұрын

"Short Term Bumps" and "Problems are Opportunities in Disguise" are two great phrases. Basically, nearly all ground breaking developments end up with collateral damage, especially early on, but they eventually even themselves back out. This should not prevent us from making those strides or to regress to lesser times.

@vickieysacoff4249 11 ай бұрын

Great discussion! I used to watch Star Talk on National Geographic and am glad to have discovered this channel. I just need to learn to type faster with my thumbs. Yes I am a boomer.

@13thAMG 11 ай бұрын

This man's mind is like a machine. He has the capacity to think in ways and terms that most of us never will.

@tray84 11 ай бұрын

bros actually ai

@markanthony2274 11 ай бұрын

MR TysonThank you for allowing me to endure an exponentially enlightening future grasp of reality. Seriously thank you sir.

@IwasInThe60s 11 ай бұрын

I need to add, as an auditor for almost 40 years, is that rigid, uncircumventable controls should be implemented to mitigate the risk of AI running amok. This has to be done BEFORE AI is implemented in any system, otherwise AI could find ways to circumvent them (which is basically the point of AI.)

@SupachargedGaming 6 ай бұрын

Gee, and here the AI developers weren't even bothering with controls... or rules? It sounds like you're describing rules, not inputs (controls). Don't worry, humanity, the auditor has the solution for the technology sector: Bureaucracy.

@IwasInThe60s 6 ай бұрын

@@SupachargedGaming The controls required are neither over input nor processing, but rather over output. That is, what new ideas IA is coming up with. To use a very mundane example: if a medical device advises that a patient's paracetamol dose should be replaced by say acetylsalicylic acid, there should be a control to first check if the patient is not allergic to aspirin. Scoff if you must, but auditors aid all sectors (even technology) in self-preservation.🤓

@orangetee5 11 ай бұрын

Chuck is ON POINT !!

@willboler830 11 ай бұрын

So, Neil disagreed with the surprise situation. Let's point out something really quick. Deep learning models are considered to be universal function approximators. When they train, they are training to approximate the probability distribution of the training dataset. It does not learn to identify distributions outside of its training set. Much like y=x^2, if you put in an X of any type, it will try to output X^2. If the label was supposed to be X^3, the neural network alone won't be able to classify that appropriately. Now with that said, there are anomaly detectors which use Variational Autoencoders (VAE). These are models which try to replicate the input. You can look at the reconstruction error on this to try to find anomalous inputs which don't match the model inputs. So if I have a model trained on just cats, it will only know how to reconstruct inputs into cats. If you give it a car, it will build a car with cat "parts" or some other noise. Looking at the reconstruction error on such an output can potentially be flagged as anomalous. There's other methods in recalibration, which analyzes the confidence outputs of a classifier and rescales the confidence values to fit appropriately for a particular context or probability. There is a potential to push low confident samples to low confident outputs, and specify these low confident outputs as anomalous. So we're both right and wrong here. AI can be used as anomaly detectors, but the AI itself alone cannot tell you about the anomaly. It needs to be designed in such a fashion to identify these anomalies, and not just rely on a model itself as trained.

@StephGV2 11 ай бұрын

Make it a felony to misrepresent or convey a deep fake as real. Hold all media social or otherwise responsible. Have a 6 month grace period where warnings will be sent out. Enforce it enthusiastically. You can't stop people from making them. You can stop them from being distributed.

@XxTheAwokenOnexX 11 ай бұрын

True AI will have the intelligence to know right from wrong, and as long as AI has a Killswitch AI can be shutdown the moment it goes rogue, or does anything it should not be doing. #LetsGoStarTalk ❤️🔥👍

@LaurentCassaro 11 ай бұрын

Unless the first thing it does is circumventing that killswitch. If it replicates online like a virus BEFORE you realize it can take autonomous decisions, what will you do?

@LaurentCassaro 11 ай бұрын

The Why Files recently made a video on this subject, "The AI Apocalypse". The interesting part being that the scenario depicted was written by ... Chat-GPT.

@iBOT-R3 11 ай бұрын

What code of ethics does it follow to know right from wrong? Conscience is variable to the environment your operating in.

@domsau2 11 ай бұрын

Do not interrupt them, please!

@acadiano10 11 ай бұрын

Librarians are having similar discussions under the heading of Information Literacy. It's important and getting more so every day. Thanks for this great episode.

@Brownyman 11 ай бұрын

“No matter what the finance minister and her spokespeople say, the market has spoken - the human nation’s credit rating is falling like a stone, while 01’s currency is climbing without stopping for breath. With headlines like that, the money markets have no choice but to…” “The leaders of men, their power waning, refused to cooperate with the fledgling nation, wishing rather that the world be divided.” -The Animatrix, Second Renaissance

@impeachy1518 11 ай бұрын

Animatrix badass.

@aldomandovani 11 ай бұрын

The REALLY SCARY part of this is... how DlSCONECTED from REALlTY (no offence intended) are the people developing these technologies, statements like: -Cars are cheaper now ( litteraly at a time with record prices and mark ups) -We can trust info if the source is a news agency (most news agencies taking their news litteraly from tik tok and viral videos) And especialy.... -Yeah it's always been "challenging" for society to keep up with technology, it's important that society distinguish from the apparent changes (proceeds to take ZERO responsability on his role developing these technologies) -I am thrilled I get to spend my productive time working on technical problems and I don't have to solve the social problems (🥶😱 these is the people shaping the future )

@limitisillusion7 11 ай бұрын

You named all the red flags I heard and then some. The overarching pattern here is that all these people in the forefront of AI development talk about the ways to increase profits. Of course this guy is designing an AI to call plays in football. If6 course people are designing AI to make decisions in the stock market. They think they're doing humanity a favor. To the contrary, we haven't even figured out how to allocate food. We have 9 million people starving to death every year worldwide. And in America, we have 700k with heart disease. The profit motives drive the poor allocation of resources, and here we are, once again exacerbating the problem with more tools. AI could make incredible medical discoveries. But is that what we will use it for? That would require universal healthcare, otherwise it once again becomes a technology to increase profits at the expense of prosperity. We can't even get ahold of the divide and conquer strategies that are driven by radios, television, and internet, and we think we are responsible enough for AI? If an alien civilization was trickling technological advancements to us, they would cut us off until we prove ourselves worthy. I hope that's the case. I hope we got their attention with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I hope they're watching over us. Call it god... I don't care. We need help.

@robertadams6606 11 ай бұрын

Our recent visions of "News Outlets" brings home these discussions of trusting sources. I see too much of people citing these not real sources. People that reference "Wikipedia" are 1.

@Rationality386 10 ай бұрын

I agree to some extent with you. Society is what for every advancement was supposed to be made, to make them live a more happier life, but these ruthlessly ambitious technological advancements are being made while neglecting the actual society. Social science are always looked down upon while the ultimate reality is that all these advancements are means to an END, and this End is human happiness and longer survivability. I am making my life in social science so that I could devise ways to solve the actual problems that these people are making ignorantly. Capitalisation is now Turning to be more bad than good. Sometimes I feel poor people are just going to be exterminated in upcoming times

@gerardgutierrez7393 11 ай бұрын

We want more, we want more, we want more. This debate is so good that there are so many questions in the air without an answer. 1/5 plays? Why they are not hiring you already? After hearing this, I hiring you for all my bids, with a comission.

@teslafudge1585 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully AI helps us realize we have some humanity left.

@jeffs6090 11 ай бұрын

AI in and of itself is not bad. It's literally just like anything else, or any other tool used by people. It's people that are good or bad. Good people will use it for good things. Bad people will use it for bad things.

@agritech802 11 ай бұрын

Spot on 👍

@jeffs6090 11 ай бұрын

@Wis_Dom - Well, I didn't distinctly say "no tool is bad." However, I can see how that could be inferred from my statement. Weapons as a whole could easily be said to be bad things, but again it can be argued either way depending on their end use. For nukes, the tool can be the bomb itself or the energy knowledge contained within it.

@Miles_Hoffman 11 ай бұрын

I was very into this chat, then it went sports and I fell asleep- then I saw it moved on - thank goodness for pause and go back 💚😎💚

@matthewwagana4419 8 ай бұрын

Yes this was a comprehensive conversation on this topic... since the early days of the 'dall-e' copyright complaints there have been many interesting youtube conversations but this has been the best one yet... imo

@lady_draguliana784 11 ай бұрын

as an artist, I am incensed by the idea that my work can be sampled, without compensation or accreditation, in order to enable an AI to produce new art that mimics mine almost perfectly, and that someone else can sell. It is conceptually abhorrent, particularly if it puts me out of a job. this is one of the precise issues the Writer's Guild is protesting right now, btw...

@IoannisNousias 11 ай бұрын

“trusted sources”. Who watches the watchers.

@dipakgupta8470 11 ай бұрын

Hurray for Chuck. Please make nice with him. He mixes humor with profound knowledge. I find the whole thing so mind expanding!

@a9ball1 10 ай бұрын

I think we need more education. My father, born 1921 had 12 years of school. I , born 1960 had 12 years My son, 1989 had 12 years Today we still only have a grade 12 for public schools. There is so much more to learn than 100 years ago but we never extended the public education system. We should be at least at grade 14 by now.

@nobanana2 11 ай бұрын

Is artificial intelligence more worrying than natural incompetence?

@moonshoes11 11 ай бұрын

“No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive” ;)

@mrwassef 11 ай бұрын

When it facilitates more natural incompetence, then yes. But that’s a hypothetical, I still believe it will reach equilibrium if it’s misused.

@easwarsankar 11 ай бұрын

It is ironic that this gentleman talks about the need for trusted sources and yet Google played a huge part in the decline of accredited, quality journalism

@Nefville 11 ай бұрын

This guy raises my red flags left and right. He's deflecting questions, like morality in regards to bringing John Lennon back to life. For one he works for a monopoly but on his own he's not doing a great job of gaining my trust that's for sure.

@Synathidy 11 ай бұрын

@@Nefville Yeah, we don't don't need AI puppets of dead artists doing poor impressions for the continued profit consolidation for billionaires, who we know are the ones that will exploit dead artist AI reanimations. Wonder how the surviving family would feel about a fake image or voice of a loved one being exploited. It's sickening, it's fake, and also can never replace a human artist with full equivalence. I don't trust any corporation. They are ALL inherently greedy and care for nothing but their enrichment. Profits dominate their entire existence.

@FacesintheStone 10 ай бұрын

I’m a high-level controls engineer, robotics, has a long way to go however, factories are currently performing machine learning, we are using AI to implement lean manufacturing techniques. At the same time, I’m trying to expose ancient art from North America. Manifest destiny is still in full effect. The indigenous population made a whole lot more than arrowheads, they made art that goes unrecognized by modern humans.

@truthseeker9093 11 ай бұрын

The problem is that if a coach gives commands how likely is it that the player will do it or can do it. What’s his stamina, how long has he been on the or better can he depend on the rest of the field

@fawkes1363 11 ай бұрын

Man I absolutely love both Chuck’s and Garry’s questions

@harshgurav9268 11 ай бұрын

Neil sir i have a question as a student From your earlier video about time travel and twin paradox if we move at the speed of light then according to position of observer for both of them time will be different But what would happen if one observer is on earth and one is revolving around the earth close to speed of the light

@KollVossFam 11 ай бұрын

Philosophy: study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence. My take away from this debate is, why can't we create a philosophy Ai to balance the truth and lies to govern all the outputs from the results generated by Ais?

@gagrza 11 ай бұрын

To help identify fakes, creators should start signing their content. From the camera and creation tools themselves, it should be an option (i.e., using digital certificates), so a chain of sources can be established. We're never going to get 100% of the fakes to be properly watermarked (as said in the video, it depends on the creator's good intentions), but we can get trusted sources to digitally sign (in essence, watermark) their content going forward because they have incentives to do so (like protect ownership/copyright, and show it comes from them, to put their reputation behind them). Anything not signed would be considered derivative and/or unverified, and consumers should know/learn to take them as such. Then consumer apps can indicate who signed the content you're consuming. There will be a (relatively) small amount of content watermarked from their source (which can be either presented as factual, opinion, or AI generated, according to the source). It is up to the consumer to decide if they believe it. And any inquiring consumer can easily track authentic content to their source (not to mention that it makes it possible for authorities to track the chain upstream). If the chain is broken, the content has to be treated with less veracity than properly signed content (and/or you have to find a better source that is unbroken). When the courts and government get involved, there would be a chain of evidence (making libel laws sting again, catching those purposedly lying). And consumers should be encouraged to find original sources when making arguments for their conclusions: they seldom do it now, since anybody can write whatever they like on the Internet (and preset it as a good source, and disown anything that you becomes disproven). But if they (and their sources) get rated, having consequences when your past arguments divorce from reality, then we might get to having meaningful discourse.

@carlkim2577 11 ай бұрын

I'm thinking asking those same lines. The will be huge incentive to digitally sign your work. Possibly public key encryptions? Block chain also might make sense.

@DrWondertainment821 11 ай бұрын

So far I only have an AI garden plant identifier but I'm very excited about expanding that into other uses.

@Matthew-Shawn-Lindholm 11 ай бұрын

The Calculated Year As Of This Writing Is 02052, QT or On Adapted Unified Field Theory To Maintain Compatibility With Religions With 12 Month Years is 02053, AUFT To Keep Time Moving, And Use Quantum Physics, Which Enables Quantum Computing, The 12 Negative Time Zones And 12 Positive Time Zones Have To Be Converted Into 20 Positive Time Zones or 24 Positive Time Zones (For Adapted Unified Field Theory), from 0-19 or 0-23. It would also be great if you can do a special on Planetary Thermodynamics that explain our current planetary temperature based upon our distance between the earth and the sun... it should be simple for everyone to understand why we have summer and winter, but few appear to grasp it and think a magical force must be forming rain clouds and tsunamis for no reason.

@ShawnRavenfire 11 ай бұрын

This reminds me of that scene in "The Hunt for Red October," where the computer picks up the sound of the caterpillar drive, and just assumes it's something it already recognizes, like a magma displacement, but it takes a human (Jonsey) to notice the pattern that it's following a course toward Thor's Twins, and that sped up ten times, it has a mad-made sound.

@gligom 11 ай бұрын

Nice talk, like always a pleasure watching. What I really don’t understand are this contradictions between experts, ones saying “run for your life”, “stop the AI development, will destroy us”, “we are doomed”, and others saying “AI is not smart like us, doesn’t know what reality is, just predicts some words”, “Many times just hallucinate and give false information”, “We must call it Artificial Idiocy “ and so on. And these are experts, highly educated in exact science fields, from which we expect clear evidence and answers. If they are not capable of giving an unanimous accepted, accurate and solid answer to general public, they will only contribute to the rise of ambiguity and uncertainty.

@anthony..23 11 ай бұрын

Gracias

@user-do6cf7lc7r 7 ай бұрын

I love watching Startalk; however, I get annoyed with the frequency of interrupting and talking over each other. (Might be a pet peeve, I'm working on it.) I would like to see a difference in future releases.. I've got 2 months before it's time to renew my Patreon subscription.

@jayjay-gl4fj 11 ай бұрын

chuck that is the best thing i have heard anybody say to a big audience, Thank you! good video! you all are my favorite

@Seehart 11 ай бұрын

Things are very different with compound systems like langchain and others that use layers of language models to have something like internal conversations. GPT by itself is simply a prediction engine that is really good at playing "predict the next word". This involves deep modelling of everything conveyed through language, but by itself it's basically just Turrets syndrome. As such, it is prone to erroneous outpur. With internal self-conversation, the new systems can silently ask "how can I fact-check this?", convert the answer to something actionable like a web search, and modify it's answers accordingly. This approach is yielding much higher accuracy. And by attaching API plug ins, they can effectively implement functional agency. And GPT-4 is much stronger than GPT-3.5 even before layering. The extreme rate of change makes any commentary about the limits of AI obsolete within a month.

@dantemlima 10 ай бұрын

Chuck is a master at articulating the questions that must be asked!

@pappaflammyboi5799 9 ай бұрын

If you can muddy the water enough regarding the "ground truth" of reality, society could very easily be fooled into stumbling down some very dark paths.

@scottwright7177 3 күн бұрын

The difficulty of solving chaotic problems (3 body problem, for example) isn't computer power or time, it's error or rounding in initial state parameters. It doesn't matter how powerful of a computer or how long you run the simulation, you will end up with a diverging result simply because the tools to measure the initial state are not good enough. They will never be good enough. We don't even have the decimal accuracy in our computers and never will. We run into floating point errors in non-chaotic problems already.

@ssotkow 11 ай бұрын

Would be interested in an episode dedicated to Oppenheimer. May get bumped by KZfaq algo. Cheers and stay healthy guys!

@420mariajuana420 10 ай бұрын

We should start making sure that specific agencies can provide provenance to anything on the internet from pictures, art, stories or news to the point if needed due to its importance to be able to show an ear tag (creation trail) so we know who created it.

@FriendlySlots 11 ай бұрын

Hello Dr. Neil, I have question about the international space station. Why when we see photos or videos of space, from the station, we see no stars, but from earth through the atmosphere, we see not only stars and planets, but also distant galaxies.

@nickt463 10 ай бұрын

Just Google this question, and you will arrive at a very logical and simple answer

@TenshiR 11 ай бұрын

GOT'DANG IT!!! This was such a good episode!!! 😀

@fraliexb 11 ай бұрын

Can't believe Chuck didn't realize that the Oregon University coach was Chip Kelly. Eagles fans hated Chip.

@jimmybellmon1268 2 ай бұрын

As a computer programmer we celebrate failure when we get a different error LOL

@iMintyNinja 4 ай бұрын

I feel like this conversation was just starting as it ended! Didn't want it to end!

@timglick4850 11 ай бұрын

May I suggest two short stories by Ray Bradbury about the replacing of Humans with technology. The first is " Marionettes Incorporated ". A cautionary tale where-in we think we can control the AI but unleash our replacements who are not just satisfied to serve but plot to take our place. Second is " I sing the body electric " . Here AI does serve us well , but we become too fond of what we create . Has what we built in our likeness become capable of feelings and how do we deal with it..

@Vancityoliver 10 ай бұрын

The Harris Rogan cinematic universe we didn’t know we needed . Alex Jones is a nut bar, like some of his guests joe is just interested in learning about their perspective for better or for worse, allowing the listener to be a bug on the wall. Congrats on the Emmy! Was here since Taylor ice cream machines

@CaptPhiI 11 ай бұрын

Great vid! It gave me so many ideas I ended up taking notes!

@andreaqui1653 11 ай бұрын

It's an art and courtesy to place a small pause between points to keep the dialog open and allow other's to speak.

@solidreactor 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully we can get Matt over again soon, I would love to have a more deep dive into ML and its effect on society

@lazaruslong92 10 ай бұрын

When I first began to watch this podcast, my opinion of Chuck Nice was not very high and I didn't understand the inclusion of a comedian in the show. However, I have changed my opnion and determined he is one of the most insightful, well spoken and intelligent voices on the internet. I agree with Chuck, it is a problem of education. Teaching basic logic should be a fundamental part of early childhood education. I have a small sample size in my own life where I taught my son, Occam's Razor at a very young age, 6. Not the complicated methodology but simple methods to look at the world and make decisions based on simple rules. He is now 17 and I have paid for it in spades when he calls his old man on his own BS. 🤣 I have created a monster but at least he is not fooled by the media machines of the internet. The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

@JTSavoy 11 ай бұрын

Great stuff. Much appreciated ☺️👍🏿

@abbybryant9019 11 ай бұрын

Chuck has not missed this entire episode!!!!!

@motogeee510 11 ай бұрын

How hot does it get around or above solar energy plants ? An how do they keep thing cool that or there ? An is it true that they reflect the sun rays back up after hitting the surface of the solar panels themselves an at what angle do those ray of light emit towards?

@billsmith8339 8 ай бұрын

It is very comforting that there are super intelligent guys like Matt around, but it is very worrisome that he works at Google ...

@Lori-PAX 11 ай бұрын

Education is everything, it is the only weapon against ignorance and complacency in order to arm ourselves for the future. Therefore we need to make education accessible to everyone around the world. Easy!