I couldn't agree more

Unsurprising to find out he later went to prison for a violent crime, right?

They are actually happily married 4 children 10 years later They were babies when they did this documentary and young people do stupid things often I am sure we can all relate

I never dangled a baby upside down ,threw animals in lakes or anything like that when I was younger.Not an excuse.

He needs a good beating and sent to prison! Cheyannes dad should never have let her marry him..literally ruined his already grieving and heart broken little girl,and she is just that 16 is still a child.

Gotta love euphemism

Someone needs to teach these poor girls in this community a little something called self defense. If any man tried to grab me the way these creepy boys did, they'd be looking at a black eye, broken penis and missing teeth after I'm through with them.

Exactly

But …………… it’s tradition

@@anthonyjohnson6973 Ohhh I didn't know.. carry on then 😳😳😳😂😂😂

Exactly

Heartbreaking that she married Him. She was grieving. Poor dear

They don’t really have a choice to back out

When he said he was going to mold her, I thought, he probably thinks he can hit her if she doesn't obey. I'm sure he learned this wise wisdom from his father.

It’s odd, because in a different episode she said she wanted a man taht treated her with respect and didn’t beat her. And this guy was harassing her at his sisters wedding and she said “we just have to deal with it”. I really wished she had gotten out 😢

I know I felt so sad throughout this whole thing I feel like I just watched a sad movie 😢

Heart dropped when she said there’s not much a woman can do but tryna get them off & live w it

And then what he did to her dog as well! Major red flags!!!

@@michelewilliams5131 I have never forgotten the way he threw her dog into the river when this was first aired 10 years ago. I would have ran for the hills then. He comes from a very abusive and violent family.

@@ShayAlly it’s sad how true it is aswell.

Also they really shouldn't be using hot irons on that little girl's hair, though I guess the other crazy stuff makes that seem unimportant in perspective

It amazes me how people have been brainwashed into thinking that you have to be accepting of other people's "cultural norms" in order to be considered open minded and accepting, when if a random citizen of a country did those same things, he/she would be in jail/lose custody of the children/be obligated to pay a huge fine and be accused of being a straight up horrible person.

Not to mention the domestic abuse

Exactly.💔

@@BigPotatoStuffedWithPotatoes tbh that's the least egregious part. My mom would straighten my hair for me in elementary school because I liked it straight even if she did occasionally burn me lol

Your ideals don't mean shit in other cultures. What's a trauma for *YOU* is simply a way to stick up for yourself for another. Also, did he ever force the kiss in the end? No, he commented how he didn't get the kiss... Tell me you never had boys joke around with you while you were young without telling me 😅

I've been pretty my whole life. I had boys scooping me up and putting me against the wall to ask for a kiss multiple times in my later teen years... Not a trauma. It was playful fun. Stop trying to make everyone victims.

@@RedDeadLore fair enough but I think it’s because he pinned her to the wall and we didn’t see him ask for consent

It’s not a sexual assault it’s a simple kiss not that bad tbh

@RedDelore Actually, hun, they do. There’s something called ‘the law’. You have to abide by it as much as anyone else.

The girls cry being away from family its normal they haven't ever left family and all off a sudden away for months

@@jamie-leighgibson2338 right lol my sister moved out in her mid 20’s and cried so it has nothing to do with being young

Thank you for telling me, I dont want to see that.

@@cnrblog2660 exactly everyone reacts different im not from a traveller family but moved out with partner at 16 loved it now in my 20s and miss being home now since its been so long

It’s a reality show not a documentary

Yeah, because the women who go out clubbing every night and cheat on their boyfriends are doing so much better than these girls who get married young and have big families to stay loyal to 😂 Your ideals don't mean shit with other cultures.

Her daddy dose them when she got married he gave her away so now he owns her (why is it so hard to understand 😂)

@@Nah_bron We perfectly understand what it means: women are considered objects that belong to men. That's exactly what's wrong.

Because country women aren’t property. Why is it so hard to understand?

@@bod9193 yah ik ye aren’t but it’s very normal to us

Yeah, you can always judge a person by how they treat animals. Pretty disgusting much!!

Yep, I thought that also. Some AH did that to my wee dog in a very cold rapid river when I was a kid. I went fucking berserk. That boy is going to physically abuse her for sure. I have no doubts about that.

He's a pig

@@janececelia7448 your so right she's in for trouble with him.

That girl in the white pantsuit needed a shirt poor thing!

This is not how real gypsys live there life I promise you that.This is just a fake tv show that want the real gypsy lifestyle to look bad to non gypsys who dont know how they really live there lives they are very private people who would never put there self in a tv show

Agreeed!!!

So sad….

no...sadly they don't. they choose this, it's pathetic

What, like being brainwashed by feminism and turning to Only fans

Yup. Lack of education also plays a big part.

For sure. These are some of the most un-Christ-like Christians I've ever seen.

@@IraG0427 how do you think formal education, which they do not engage in, is going to change over 30 generations of social conditioning?

We’re gypsys dats why u got a problem wit de way we dress and act so what if we do ta stuff we’re religious at de end of thu day

@@Scarlettx0x You can do what you want, say what you want, live how you want, it’s your choice. But religion doesn’t save, Jesus does. No one “good” or religious gets into heaven, only those who repent and believe on Jesus for their salvation!

Hilarious 😂😂😂

🤣🤣🤣

I caught that, too. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Lol

Caught that as well.

I noticed that.

or "it doesn't matter if you get married in a shithole, it's all about the dress"

That is absolutely disgusting. Talk about a trash family

YIKES!!!!

They don’t care who they hurt those people that’s why they get a bad name

They wonder why they get treated like shit in jail always fighting a woman gypsies are bitches

If that’s how he’s treating strangers so confidently, imagine how he’s treating his poor wife behind closed doors

I didn’t know that John and Isaac went to prison wow

Pure scumbags!

How do you know??

@@megmurphy6847 google his name and it’ll come up, he’s a horrible and nasty man.

@Meg Murphy it was in the news when it happened because it was amanda holdens neighbour, and she spoke about it on TV

The production crew are not there to intervene. They are there to document. Now think this through, would you want to interfere with a tense social confrontation between a bare Knuckle boxer and his woman? Think of the consequences...

It's truly disgusting and horrible

​@@anthonyhassett hey, the camera people have their equipment and stuff to clobber some so called bare knuckled fighter with. Half these "fighters" are all bark, no bite.

Young women???? She’s a 16 year old CHILD!!!!

@@Funnutter38 her choice, wasn’t forced on her ,and they’re still together ten years on with four kids, so what’s the issue? Respect other peoples cultures!!

@@littlemy1773 where in my comment have I disrespected? 🙄 just saying the fact that’s she’s not a women she was a child

@@Funnutter38 she’s not a child tho . Where I live she’s old enough to vote, drive, join the army, leave home, and get married so I fail to see how she’s a child . We were constantly told at that age at school we are now young adults. Romany, and travellers do things differently one of the main reasons being they have a much lower life expectancy than gorjas, especially the men . This is why many of them marry so young . They’re prepped for it all their life it’s insulting to be calling her a child . Especially after everything that young lady went through she is exceptionally mature. It’s not covered in this episode but if you dig more into her life you’ll find interviews and the like. She’s always impressed me and many others

@@littlemy1773 I haven’t read all your messages cause I got to the first few sentences and pissed myself laughing You can’t vote, or get married without parents consent until you are 18 oh and you can’t learn to drive until you are 17, in Britain. Thankyou for making me laugh. Oh and you can’t join the army until you are 17. You are legally classed as a child until you are 18. Please get a brain cell before you reply to my comments, cause you are looking like a fool

THE bible IS given by the prison chaplain for him to keep

they are raised to believe that's all there is to life, its heartbreaking

@@kerryalfaro9437 sorry I didn't realize that and shouldn't have assumed, thanks

Yeah I had trouble watching after that

It's not that hard, up to 100 years ago in the UK you could tie a rope around your wife's waist, take her down to the market and sell her like a horse or a cow.

Because the dog was view first. She chose to be with him abusing a poor animal and a poor baby.

omg yes! like what the actual f

Because most people are crappy and care more about animals than children.

Exactly this weirdos​@@melindaroop1346

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She does, but their culture forces them to be together, also the guy might be threatening her to marry him so there’s that

Are you referring to the girl that watched as her dog who can’t swim was thrown in the pool ? I would have been in the lake after the dog and not walking away with him hand in hand!

To me she sounded resigned with life, resigned to marrying the guy who AS-ed her. She didn't sound excited to be marrying the man of her dreams. Poor girl. She's only 15, lost her mum and now is planning her wedding to the guy with lots of red flags. He was HOLDING BABY UPSIDE DOWN!

He’s in jail from what I found

@@kathrynchristian2651 I read that he's a dad to four kiddies now. He needs to grow up and set a good example for them.

I have cheese in my fridge with mold that is more mature than him. It's not going happen any time soon

Weeeeell… don’t Google Chris, John, Isaac, Barbara or Josie (Josephine) McFadyen then, or you’ll be in for bitter disappointment. I don’t know about the rest of the McFadyen family, but these sure know where to find trouble !

To be fair most travellers don't get legally married, they just find a church that accepts to do it. Most travellers believe in the talion and clan laws, not official government

in many countries the legal age is 16, but they need the parents consent to the marriage if the bride and/or the groom is under 18.

The legal age is 18 but if you do it before then you need your parents' permission which is the case for all these girls getting married. Their parents are signing the necessary documents giving consent to the marriage.

Fortunately now in England and Wales you cant get married until your 18 regardless of parental consent………… so sad these girls think a man owns them

You’re a ducking weirdo she’s a child

In every culture family is everything tho

​@@queennzinga5988a1qq

​@@queennzinga5988not true they have no one else bar family

Surprise surprise he went to jail for assaulting a partially blind, pregnant woman

Your comment makes me laugh 😂 Dogs are drawn to the most disgusting things possible to eat... even if they have better options... My dog and my brother's dog got into a seriously vicious fight over a fresh, steaming cowflop left behind by some neighborhood cow who was roaming around and got on my mother's driveway. I thought they were going to kill each other over who got it. Neither one of them were lacking great food - they just really wanted that fresh, steaming pile of cowflop. Dogs know how to swim, they love water. They don't care about stinky things, in fact they love stinky things 😂

​@@monkeynumbernine you're an idiot.

@@monkeynumbernine Animals are more important than humans. Animal rights will take over human rights after old times generations are gone.

Awe, poor dog went for a swim and was perfectly fine. One of the issues in this world is because people put animals above humans and act like they are so offended by getting to play in the water. If only all the poor and orphans were cared for, and fought for like all those poor animals, right?!

Sorry for your loss Pamela Pope

Child she 16

Forget that she's gonna need an attorney and a restraining order.

Yeah but the TV crew don't care they want to make "good television"!

i know, just awful

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that. They really just asked such an emotionally charged and tear-inducing question as she was getting her EYE MAKEUP done at all times 🤦🏻‍♀️

Tell me about it…it’s like they copped 40,000 volts 😂😂

It's definitely interesting 🤣🤣

And when they put it in slow mo 🤣🤣🤣

It's the "Spanish look" apparently like pineapples and cats come from Spain.

@@tekiuroti8455 should put it do a techno dance beat or Irish techno music "dance to Tipperary"

When she nearly got its foot with the door aswell my heart stopped for a second don't think she even knows where it is half the time NOT TO MENTION him holding the baby upside down at the christening

ikr. I thought no one is gonna mention the child nelect here

Half of them are divorced and some have even left the travel community. It was bound to happen. I left when I was 21, unmarried with a toddler and half of my traveller friends have also left. There's really no place for the old ways in this day and age but it hasn't completely died out tho, the older gen are still hanging on by thread!!

Happy for you Allannah. I just can't imagine marrying the idiot I was with when I was 15-16. If you know Violet Anne, she was one of the oldest to get married in her early 20's. Larry I believe was her husband's name.

Domestic violence, washing a caravan every day, cheating husband, loads of kids, over weight, eldest child looking after all their youngest children as they are "teaching them how to be stay at home breeders and caravan cleaners/ home cleaners", the male children fighting each other, swearing and being taught that women are their property that they can do what they want with etc etc The "closeness" comes from young girls being bored beyond tears cleaning and cooking from 11 yrs onwards so they look towards the future - a big wedding and then leaving their parents to have loads of kids of their own and repeat the same life they couldn't wait to leave. The girls are told that you can never leave your husband no matter how bad and what he does to them or anyone else as they will be alone forever and being that they have barely any education and have never worked nor had to provide for their family in their life so they are scared to lose their husband so they stay - the men know this so they cheat and beat them cos they know they can get away with it. Travellers have an incredibly high domestic violence rate. I do think things are slowly changing but it needs to end, this is no way of life for any woman!

@@amiedavis5257 I loved violet Anne and would love to know If she's still married. She didn't seem happy at all

John & Cheyenne are still married with 4 kids!

In one of the shots the little girl had a (unlit) cigarette to her mouth. The way they have them dress and dance and act just don’t sit ok with me. It’s disturbing. Idc what other people do normally but they are sexualizing little girls and act like it’s totally ok. So many screwed up things on this show

​@jamiesims7758 I couldn't believe the little girl had a cigarette in her mouth , they were propping the newborn up with a air rifle as well. My jaw drops watching this.

@@jamiesims7758 a lil girl said "come on bitch" to the baby at the beginning.

This video really shows you how wild these travellers are. It is crazy. Unlicensed boxing against a guy twice your age, married at 16, the kid drinking in the limo at like the age of 9, sexual assault being so normalised... It's as if they were living in the medieval era. If anything Im astounded and amazed at these traditions.

The girls are raised to look forward to their wedding dress. It’s the ONLY thing they have! After that, it’s a life of cleaning, cooking, taking care of your husband and having babies while he does as he pleases. But she got a huge oversized, ridiculous wedding gown that she couldn’t walk gracefully in because it was too heavy! That’s it! Her life is done!

Why do they look so happy? They do. They have each other. The Irish Traveller women are so beautiful. Fine & delicate features with big smiles.

Where did he buy those gifts tho

They won't learn this.

bro it happened 11 years ago...

I have a mother but I’m planning my wedding myself lol

Your profile pic, tells me everything I need to know about you.

Gypsyphobe

@@cryingbananajoso does yours

@@Nina-rn6pc yes I love banana jo.

Yours is the first mention I can find of it as I scroll through the comments! It's at 24:24 if anyone wants to be horrified.

I can’t believe he held the baby up side down 😮why???? 😢

It’s a joke because they are the godparents…. I thought it was pretty funny tbh

I'm not even a doctor in any measure but same lol

Trauma RN here- thought the same thing! Must have Xray vision..

A lot of people don't realise that fractured and broken mean the same thing

They're dressed like whores, and married off as children. 😢😮 travel away. Gross

I def did and was saying the same thing. But you know what they say... every boy marries his mom!

Yes,yes,yes his mom could be her mom easily

definitely noticed the resemblance! they must be related!

First episode ı watched thought his mom was her mom. They might be related

NOT TRUE lol.

I was just thinking the same thing

I know!! 😢

Is Violet Anne still with Larry?

Wow, I thought divorces were very rare among this community as well. Huh. I wonder what’s changed? Any ideas-particularly from the Traveller Community?

@@tundrawomansays694 The men are allowed to beat their wives in that culture. I wouldn't be a part of that culture if they paid me!

@@amiedavis5257 I honestly don't know about them. With that one what concerned me was when her mam said if she came home she would be kicked straight back out and home to him and me made to try and make it work. I hope that depends on the situation. I know if that was me and my mam and I left my fiance, she would talk to me and ask if it was salvageable but she wouldn't ever force me to go back xxx

​@@tundrawomansays694Even in these traditional communities times change. Good on them for leaving what are probably awful relationships.

ya i cant imagen how she feels ab her mum but they are my fav couple too.

Typical Irish trash

Same

who?

It's also terrible that she married into the family she did, just from seeing the comments here!

You have to remember how many modern medical marvels we have. Penicillin, x-ray, disinfectant, food preservation, cheap food, clean water, better housing and clothing. In the Holy Roman empire the average age of mortality was 33 and Julius Caesar was 45 when he was assassinated. Then there is all the primary industries that are dangerous. We don't know how good we have it. Those social norms apply to back then

You can get married in Spain at 14. These law apply to times when life expectancy was low and as soon as you could stand you worked. Childhood toys were based on real world industry (farming, construction, military, house keeping, school, shop, child minding). Now all children's toys are electronic and do not resemble the real world.

But having babies at 13 unwed is what we have in US....

Neighbours probably want a good laugh. Brides all look like cheap tarts

It's like the Circus or Freak Show!

It's more like a train wreck in slow motion. It's awful, it's an eye sore you know it's going to be a disaster afterwards but you still call your cousin to tell her how bad it is because you can't look away.

Cheyennes also grown up to be a gorgeous woman

So pleased to hear that

​@@callystafilestoo bad her man is a criminal who assaults elderly ladies

Rob steal

The dad literally said he stole those cufflinks. They steal and do all sorts of horrible stuff

Can't spend illegal gains on any worthy investments like a house, the tax man will be very suspicious.🤨

These girls are hyper-sexualized almost from the day they are born. Their entire designated purpose in this community is to attract a guy, get married, and have babies in order to keep the community going. And the sooner a girl gets married and starts having babies, the better. They are expected to marry young and they are expected to get pregnant IMMEDIATELY afterwards. If it takes even a few weeks to get pregnant, all the other Travelers start thinking there's something wrong with the girl (and ONLY the girl, never the guy)! The girls also have an ironclad rule to remain a virgin until after they are married (males don't have this requirement) in spite of the hyper-sexualizing and objectifying that starts when they are still just toddlers (not to mention the horrific "grabbing" custom which is nothing less than the sanctioned sexual assault of teenage girls). Any girl who doesn't remain a virgin will be cast out of their family AND the Traveler community which is a horrendous and terrifying prospect because the ONLY people they know are their family and some other members of the Traveler community, and they don't have much of anything in the way of schooling, job skills, or how to function in the world outside of their family and community. Girls/women who divorce are also cast out of their family and the community (and again, this does not apply to the males), so the fear of being cast out and left all alone in the world with children to care for (children go with the divorced mother), is often the glue that keeps these women in their marriages in spite of neglect, abuse, violence, drunkedness and/or husbands who are in and out of prison (divorced males are free to pursue other girls and remarry, and husbands being drunk, violent, in prison, etc is normalized as being both the price and pride of being a Traveler). Raising girls with the constant onus of being responsible for protecting the family's name and honor by remaining a virgin while also being hyper-sexualized in order to attract a guy and marry very young, followed by immediately being thrust into the world of caring for babies and children and husbands and homes while a teenager ( there is no such thing as living alone as a single person for a time), keeps them from ever having the maturity to wonder about a different kind of life as they are growing up, or having the time to wonder once they are firmly entrenched in all the duties of caring for a family. It's a very typical patriarchal society where females are objects owned first by their father and then by their husbands (their fecundity is under the control of a male at all times), and the females have very specific duties and rules for which they will pay dearly if they fail to abide by them while the males can do pretty much whatever they want (IF a male does do something that really riles their community, they usually just have to fight another male member with a stake in the trespass, after which the problem is considered done and dusted).

Yes.💔 There are lovely parts of these cultures, but these are the truly appalling sides.

Seen an bullock tangled in an electric fence. They both had the same grace and dignity.

That is quite a reach. Bet if you're even old enough, you voted for Biden.

@@CarrieAkins I know your not talking to me bitch.

@@CarrieAkins Biden never SA'd someone, Trump has, multiple times.

​@@cilanatroisbetterthanparsley😅😅😅 Biden never SAd anybody. The pig showered with his daughter

Don't they? Women have no education, no money & property and no say. I think that is called slavery.

Yes absolutely what is more disturbing is that they don't want women to be successful in sport men are using sport to control women

Thats a thing 500 years ago

like normal 16 yo also don't do that my question is who paying this how are they so rich or are they just in debt?! 😭😭😭

@@han6061 the parents pay.

@@comet1227 how 😭😭😭 the man is comming and going to jaill

@@han6061 Must have a "let's throw a ungodly wedding" fund they all contribute to.

Not only unable to rent a car can they even get a hotel room?

Yes I thought that she was Cheyenne mom exactly like her

Yes I thought the same

She really fits in with the entire family so well ❤

I thought the same. There's a saying about men growing up to marry their mother

Yup I thought the same!

Why does she "deserve" a better husband? She chose her husband!!! If she got a bum deal it's because she chose him. It's not like she could have done any better.

@@anthonyhassett no she didn’t. You can’t consent to choosing a husband at that age. Why is it her fault that the culture requires marriage that young? Did you know her mom died? She didn’t even have help learning what to look for. The men should step up and monitor and take care that their sons don’t turn into POS. If he presents like and angel and acts like a dick it’s his fault. She is not a mind reader. That’s the same ol blame the victim mentality. 100 years of mental health research says that isn’t the correct school of thought.

@@anthonyhassett The gypsy community is weird that way. It's not like there is a ton of choices and it at least appears all the men are raised with similar values unfortunately. But I do hear what you are saying.

@@anthonyhassett she didn't chose him. In the episode "love at first grab" Cheyenne explains that after a wedding reception he grabbed her and "it's not nice". They have a courting custom called "grabbing" where the boy has the right to grab the girl he likes, and if he is able to kiss her (even if she fights him) he can claim her.

@@katiehanson02 yeah but she didn't seem disappointed going up the aisle. She married him. She could have objected, her parents could have objected the priest could have refused to do the marriage. Tons of opportunities to get out. She didn't try too hard to fight him off either.