GET OUTTA THERE OSHA!

Darth Plagueis is a peeping Tom watching Qimir skinny dipping

A “Phantom Menace” one might say

@@ariesstorm9577 I see what ya did there!

@@CascadianRangerthats his maniac shiek! Hes going to attack (sigh I mess classic sponge bob)

what a usless scene lmao

Legitimately at one point in the episode the thought of Darth Bazil crossed my mind

Reminds me of Shnoz if anyone is into the Berserk manga series as well

​@@swiftsamurai6833yes, Mae already explained that the ship was too large for the asteroid field. Just remove bazil sabotaging the spaceship and sol looking backwards at him and it still makes sense.

Darth Bazil is the master of Darth Jar Jar, the two true sith lords with far greater power than Palpatine could ever wish for

He didn’t look Muun.

@@vermontmike9800 what? He def looked muun, he looks almost exactly like he does in the cover of the plagueis novel

​@vermontmike9800 Its him, he was confirmed

@@brunohommerding3416 check out the Muun in the prequels and clone wars. Not close.

@@vermontmike9800he looks straight off the Plagueis novel cover lol. He’s even in a cave on the same planet at the start of that book

I'm not a fan of Basil, but in his defense: he works for the Jedi Order, not for Sol. Even he could see that Sol was slipping hard.

I'm a little confused as to his actions too, like what his purpose was or what he was meant to do in episode 6.

Yup. Felt like they kept forcing him in for no good reason because they didn't have anyone talk to him to tell us what the hell he is doing or why.

I liked Bazil too, but wasn't sure what was going on there. I did NOT get the impression that Sol was going to shoot her down _ thought it was going to be some kind of grapple or something, which was why he got so close. It makes more sense if he was going to fire, but I've had to watch episodes twice to get a lot of that - which isn't a great reflection on the storytelling.

@@snuffles504 ok... good point! I can live with that!

Pretty confusing why the Order would've problems with Osha, Mae, or severely condemn the Jedi for some very silly, pretty contrived, emotional (despite pre disney Jedi training hard to control emotions so as to not succumb to dark side) actions (all done by males, [even supposedly balanced Sol], except for Indara's weird unnecessary coverup plan), the rest of their actions being self defense or desire to protect children from perceived immediate danger of death. Jedi actions didn't really give any serious signals they were forcibly going to take children especially when Jedi are small in number (seems to be a real strange fluke that Indara might've killed many). Is the Order supposed to treat Osha and Mae poorly b/c they're similar to Anakin? They treated Anakin well. If they wanted to coverup something then just try to coverup the girl's origins and say there were some men in the cult. How would've Osha's Jedi training changed if Order knew the full story? Would they think she was created by dark side and be more easily tempted by it? They'd then for sure give more intense anti-dark side training and warning, maybe monitor her more and try to avoid situations that might increase the chance of a turn, since Jedi know dark side causes suffering in the galaxy.

It's so amusing how many people jumped to those conclusions and didn't believe the word of the showrunner when she said that it wouldn't break existing canon.

Sol was accused of doing a murder a planet away while he was teaching kids on Coruscant. No one thought it was odd he murdered someone while on a different planet? Or the bar keeper left alive who saw Osha murder Trinity. I don't believe for a second that 10 jedi were murdered and just cause Vernestra says Sol did it that they are all like "okay, good enough for me" and Yoda is now either complicit or oblivious.

B-B-But the Topps Card!

When that trailer dropped and all the man babies cried "that ruins Star Wars unless literally everyone in that scene dies". Welp...

​@KaneSoulbreaker they did the same thing with the droids in the prequels. So many people never considered C3PO getting his mind wiped, and they head-canoned Obi-Wan lying about not knowing R2 eventually... but they were near hysterical about it on release.

Yes poor Sol got framed since he was dead and couldn't defend himself. I knew this last episode would be abysmal based on her zoom interview on Star Wars Explained. She literslly said, "Star Wars is about the betrayal of the father"

For real. This show is wildly bad, idk how people can stretch their imagination to make the scenes work and actually enjoy it 🤦‍♂️. No one acknowledging the fact that the mother turned into a demonic creature and just blaming Sol is wild. Especially when these witches invade peoples’ minds

Qimir was the only competent light saber fighter. All the Jedi were terrible and I was a little bit disappointed, and the fighting choreography didn’t look that like the Jedi at their best moment. 🫤

@GerardoBuenrostro I can agree, but honestly? That makes sense. These jedi have not seen proper combat against a lightsaber-welder THAT ACTIVELY WANTED THEM DEAD. It's only ever sparring and practice. IIRC Yord was even like: "They don't fight to protocol" or whatever the line was. Of course they suck.

I've seen children with sticks do better.

@@Ronald-gu3ft Jecki WAS a child with a stick. That's the point.

I really aplaud the dedication that Kalnaca had in cooking almost in every scene!!!

She is so unlikeable and the actor had no nuance even if she is suppose to be just bland and no personality

Yea stealing a line so creative

did you notice they stole like 50 lines from OG & prequels throughout the show, they are scattered everywhere, zero creativity.

@@hongsmoker ever consider they do it as an homage to the original movies that you hold so dear ? And you idiots just use it as an excuse to Bash them lmao. And hang on to lines like “I hate sand it gets everywhere” now there’s some creative dialogue. Why don’t u guys just admit u don’t actually like Star Wars, move on with ur lives and maybe be a little more pleasant 🤣🤡

@@hongsmokerare u too stupid to understand they do that kinda thing as an homage to the original stuff u all claim to hold so dear? And u haters just use any and everything as an excuse to bash them. But yeah “I hate sand, it gets everywhere” and “hello There”, yeah there’s some creative dialogue !!!! Just admit u don’t like Star Wars anymore and maybe you can move on and Enjoy life a bit more 🤡👍🤣

I think he’ll be turned back at some point

Show might have been interesting if they spent more of it fleshing him and the sith out instead of what we got. You can like or not like the show, but we can agree exploring Qimir more - with his clothes on - would have been more interesting.

I agree, I was very apprehensive about them going down this route

He should have died, than resurect like sabine, and then die again to fight Yoda as a ghost. Than come back by Esra and killed by darth Mull and Vader.

Vasil is the rodent that would love for grogu to eat!!!! Or maybe kalnaca, that cooked during the whole show

👍

@@lyndsaybrown8471 true that!!

Sure, because this writers will think about it😂😂😂

@@jorgechiubomberos What? They very clearly did put thought and intentionality behind that decision… seeing as how it’s literally in the show.

@@jorgechiubomberos They're better writers than you.

Yes it was this exactly!

And to add to that, it’s the same reflection we see after she bleeds Sol’s crystal

Yeah, Yoda Is creepy

@@RoyChamorro666 I can’t help it… puppets creep me out! 😆

@@RoyChamorro666😂

Who

​@chrisromesburg1942 darth plagious

Nice one, didn't think of that

Yeah, I immediately thought of Plagueis creating life when Osha and Mae's origins were discussed. I have no clue if he was involved directly, but it would make sense and also be reason to bring Korill back in Season 2

This is probably the direction the show means to go in. Leaving Koril alive definitely hints in that direction. Hopefully the show gets renewed for another season...

I thought the same thing while watching. But while thinking about it afterwards, i thought it’s possible Qimir didn’t know about the manipulated creation of the twins, if his master hasn’t told him the full story either. I don’t think Qimir was involved on brendok years ago as he doesn’t look much older than the twins, so he was likely at the Jedi temple as a young padawan when they was born etc. it would be interesting if Plagueis was there on brendok when the place burnt down etc. now writing this, what if the mother with the horns was plagueis apprentice at the time? 😵 But back on topic, qimir hearing Sol could’ve been qimir realising his master plagueis must have created them and why qimir has been instructed to corrupt/train them

i dig it

Totally! I think he means, I don’t know what happened hopefully someone will tell me… in season 2.

Agreed, every episode needed to be about 10 minutes longer to provide context necessary to clarify what's going on and less clunky dialogue.

I had the exact same thought. Or maybe tow cables or something. I think it very unlikely he was trying to blow her out of the sky.

Yeah, wasn't handled well as it wasn't clear what he was about to do.

That scene was confusing. And Bazil suddenly disabling the ship.

One of the biggest issues with the whole show, the audience being very confused on what happened. And most of em aren't things that get answered later on. They just stay confusing

@@chrismobley6339 Hopefully, they'll do a better job in season 2- if there's a season 2!

Looks like Plaigues is now canon

​@@edkwon hes always been in canon, palps alludes that plagueis was his master in revenge of the sith

For some people in this story, he may be haha

@@devanwallis3454 yes but now it is canon that he is a muun. It wasn't before because the Plaigues novel was non canon.

I wanted to see more. When I saw him, I was like wtf are u. Wait no come back WHAT ARE YOU. I mean cmon, u show me a menacing figure and don't expand more on it??

Fax

I liked the original trilogy and prequel Jedi that were very noble (although also complacent and unwilling to adapt to possible new threats) and generally worked hard to exerted control over their emotions so as to not succumb to the dark side. Lucas has said that to him being balanced in the Force means there is little/no dark side.

First of all, prequel Jedi were never Noble. That was literally the whole point of the prequels. And that's one of the things I love about. The show is we're seeing the beginning stages of how they completely lost their way and became corrupt during the prequel era which set up their own downfall. Second of all, we have to remind ourselves that which is something I wish was more explored. More that when we see the Jedi in the original trilogy we see it through Luke's eyes. Luke's eyes is that he grew up with Obi-Wan kenobian saw him as an extended good uncle, which means he completely excused all the bad stuff that Obi-Wan did during the prequels. He also was fed's stories and saw only one side of the picture and thus that's why he could redeem his father. It was more through naivete and it was more his father's choice than his choice. Very apparent in the sequels which is an aspect that I like about them, which is that Luke's job was to bring his dad to the light to bring ballards to the force. His job was not to bring back the Jedi border again because as the definition of insane he goes his doing the same thing multiple times in thinking you'll get different results. He literally tried to bring back the Jedi Order of old, not realizing how entirely flawed they originally were which then caused his own downfall and that's why he's so bitter in the last Jedi finally saying the quiet part, all the fans said about loud about how terrible the old Jedi were, except he learned that lesson way too late. Why? I'm really interested in praying for that Ray sequel interval because it should be really interesting to see how a Jedi should be instead of the way they previously were. I think a huge part of it is actually listening to the force and obeying the will of the force and thus the will of the people. Because once you start doing things for your own perceptions like trying to label things good and evil. Based on how you see it, you inevitably pave your way for your own downfall. I mean think about it. Everyone loves Han Solo but to most of the Galaxy and also in the beginning Han Solo was just a lowly scum criminal who worked for one of the worst awful criminal organizations and not only just the cartel but the direct head of the cartel, it's like literally being the second-hand man to Vladimir Putin. Course we know he's done a lot of extremely good deeds especially later on in his life. But the fact of the matter is that if we judged Hannah at face value, kind of like what we did in A New Hope, we would have just thought he was some scoundrel and that's kind of the whole point of how the Jedi became corrupted. They were more about their order instead of being a Jedi. Kind of like a difference between Christians who just know a couple of Bible verses and then follow what their politicians and preachers say instead of a Christian who actually is trying to be like Christ and is trying to follow his teachings and his messages of love and insight. Again this is why I hope if they do it smartly we're going to see this in the Ray movie but Lucas film has screwed up before so.

Sol was more female than the females..

@@Legion-p6y Huh?

@@jordanwhite352first of all the word noble can mean a class like how there's a royal class. And that wasn't the point of the prequels. The Jedi were very noble they just became pretty arrogant. Noble the way ur using it is having good personal qualities or moral ideas. The Jedi definitely had good moral ideas in the prequels. Wat r u saying?

To prevent sol from killing Mae.

Even Basil could see that Sol was desperately slipping.

Is it only Basil actions that don't make sense? Mae wants to be bad, then wants to be arrested, then fights arrest, then is good again, then is bad again...Qimir could've easily used his ignited saber on Osha in 4th episode but instead Force pushes her away. Then in 5th episode he throws a spinning saber at Osha that is cutting trees until dues ex Sol eventually shows up for the first time that episode and blocks it. Then at the end of 5th episode Qimir takes Osha to some world and in the 6th episode he makes innuendo about her enjoying holding his lightsaber!?!?

⁠@@fernandofreitas2615why are you just listing things that happen with question marks after them? I agree that Mae’s motivations felt weak but everything else is easily explained if you just watch the show and think for a second.

@@mrmoto66 yeah because the rat is so stupid that he forgot Mae killed (or helped to kill) all the jedi he was travelling with just few hours before. What a stupid show. WORST Tv series ever.

we can agree on the last word at least!

@@Jander833 who cares the story makes no sense from 1 episode to the next. Theres so many plot holes and contrivance that it's silly anyone even considers this is something that can be explained if we just see more nonsense.

@@stevencatone what are you even doing in the comment section of this channel if that's the attitude you bring? Can you name any of the plot holes or contrivances you talk about and make your case or have you just been told they're there and that's enough for you?

I think he’s deluded himself into thinking that he did nothing wrong, admitting that Aniseya’s magick scared him into attacking her would be an admission of wrongdoing so he repressed that part of the memory.

@@alenor210 if we want to rationalise it, it's possible that he told that to Mae, but since we saw she still was confrontational after hearing the story he may have gotten defensive after that. When it comes to Osha I think he may feel so guilty and be so exhausted that he has a bit of a subconscious death wish so he doesn't even bother making a strong case.

What would be the point of explaining that to Osha? He killed. Her mother. It's not as if Osha didn't know her mother was a witch.

I'm with you. Very much wanted to love it.

What do you people even want anymore? Seriously. You claim that TFA was too samey and you wanted something different and daring. The TLJ came out, and you bitched about it not being what you wanted either. Then you complained about the TV shows being not reverential enough to Legends lore, but here comes Acolyte, filled with nothing but reverence for Legends, deep cut references, etc., and of course, you still don't like that, either. The writing was "bad." Just admit it: you don't like Star Wars anymore. You like hating Star Wars.

@@Progger11 easy there bud. I absolutely love TLJ. I've very much enjoyed every show they've done. This is the first thing I didn't think was good. And if you dug it, that's great. I wish I did too.

@@Progger11 that’s an awful lot to assume about me based off me having criticisms for one show. I also stated what I liked but of course you ignored that. You complain about people just ‘wanting to hate star wars’ yet as soon as someone has a criticism you tar them with the exact same brush. You’re just as much of a problem as the losers who scream about ‘wokeness’. Like I said, if you like this show, good for you. Great. Enjoy it as much as you want, you’ll get no judgement from me. But people are allowed to critique things. Get over it. Also I actually like TFA, and TLJ lmao. It’s not a perfect movie but I liked what it was doing a lot more than TROS. So maybe don’t just assume crap when you flip out over someone not liking what you like, yeah?

I enjoyed it, but I admit the writing is bad. The character's motivations are very inconsistent, specially Osha's at the end. I think the format of 8 episodes of 30 minutes a season is really hurting the storytelling whereas the could have more time for dialogue and character development that this show really desperately needed.

It works if you ignore established canon and decide that Star Wars doesn't need basic logic.

agreeeeeed

@@NoCluYTthe show could have been halfway decent with all of its flaws if the writing, pacing, and acting were much better. Like you said there’s little/no logic in this series

​@@NoCluYT Which established canon are we ignoring?

@@NoCluYT Please tell me which established canon is broken by this series!

How do you know they had bad intentions? There is no data to support that.

@@davepruittyou might not know this but. IMO means “in my opinion”. I don’t KNOW, but based on context clues I can assume that a dark force user manipulated life and was going to use that life for her own personal/selfish desires. In the end she chose not to be selfish and to be selfless and put the needs of her daughter over the needs of the coven.

@@davepruitt Heavy mind control for multiple minutes of a Wookie and getting him to almost kill his allies suggest use of the dark side. Use of the dark side had caused a lot of suffering in the galaxy, let alone for two young girls in a cult.

@@fernandofreitas2615 they were acting in self defense. Their home was being invaded.

@@davepruitt invaded as "this police officer invaded my home"

Bazil also so a sith kill a bunch of Jedi and knows Sol didn’t kill his friends on Kasheek. If he was willing to stop Sol from killing Mei then he would also tell the Jedi counsel about the sith and how Sol didn’t do the murders. Also why would the Jedi be okay with lying about Sol going rogue instead of just telling them the truth this whole show doesn’t make any sense

@@austinparr9949 1. Bazil did not see Qimir or hear the word Sith. He was lost in the forest 2. The Jedi Council didn't believe a Jedi Master saying he saw a Sith in Phantom Menace. Do you geniunely believe they would listen to their tracker saying he saw one? 3. Bazil is still TRAPPED ON THE SHIP WITH SOL. Sol is the only one with all the information. Forcing him to give up on his chase and report to the council is his best option. 4. The Jedi are under investigation by the senate, settling the issue as quickly as possible is in their best interest. Its almost like that's a major plot point explained in two episodes. Most people also dont speak Bazil 5. A rogue Jedi killing Jedi is a Jedi problem, a Sith is an everyone problem. Its almost like if you watch the show, it explains the show.

I thought it sounded like him too. I’m surprised it hasn’t been brought up more. Timing doesn’t make sense IF he’s human but who knows?

This⬆️ Exactly how I feel too ESPECIALLY after the finale which saved it for me. Ep5 is one of the best episodes of Star Wars television ever and the finale was good but many of the other episodes were what I like to call underwhelmingly decent at best but then you had ep7 which was just so not good. The show has many filmmaking mistakes that need major fixing if a season 2 happens.

Disjointed. Perfect description of this show.

Finally, someone who doesn't say this is the "worst Star Wars show ever," like I haven't heard that a million times in so many videos.

@@kzilla8864 Exactly. Like, i get some of the criticism, it is a flawed show. But calling it the worst thing ever made is just nonsense. This was a solid 7/10 for me. Nothing special, but pretty cool stuff. If we get a Season 2, i hope they make the writing a bit tighter. I really hope it will be more like Ep. 5 and 8 and less like Ep. 3 and 7.

okay = too short

The force does move around a creature/person that's about to kill 🤔

Wait wait wait did i miss something because what was the thrawn tease in season 1

@@chilltrooper9423 my bad, season 2. It was the Ahsoka episode.

I think you were expecting too much, especially re: flashback on why Qimir fell. This season wasn't about that, it was about Brendok and the fallout for what happened there. I think it's wise to delay telling the audience how Mae and Qimir found each other until the next season, same as with why and how Qimir turned bad. There's definitely a set up for both for a season 2. With the Qimir-Mae linkup, juxtapose him finding her in the past with him training Mae's sister in the present. And given the Padawan setup with Vernestra, it makes sense putting what happened with Qimir in the next season too because it seems like she's our new main Jedi in the show and that could be our next main mystery.

Yhh I don’t think it really works in Morden times unfortunately but it’s just such core part of the franchise what can they really do?

Yeah it really stood out to me too

That’s how they look in Galaxy’s Edge so that’s how they gotta look in the show to sell to consumers. Shoutout Disney

Agreed!

My thoughts exactly

Nice to see some positivity

8 episodes? 4 episodes should be able to tell the story.

Good show

I loved it. The kill scene was so dope. I kept thinking she was gonna stop and theyd talk more...but he just kept choking. But then the crystal changing on top of that. Really just so dope. Way to earn that fall to the dark side. The fact I was rooting for her to do it speaks to the writing. I wish someone on yt would cut that scene to Slipping into Darkness by War

@@jasontaylor4752 yeah, but they wrote it in a way that the sith were portrayed as good, and the jedi, evil. I don't care about "breaking cannon" but that's the lore. It's what star wars has been for the last 50ish years, its one of the reasons it did so well, because of the basic, good, evil. The message might as well have been, good is bad, bad is good. I liked the tv show but I just can't accept this post modernist piece of bullshnitzel. Anakin skywalker:"from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!" Obi Wan Kenobi:"then you are lost!" Star wars is lost.

@@shaharbob3167 I think it's more nuanced than that. I don't think the jedi in the show were evil. In fact, i think that she show really takes an interesting look at moral relativism in the sw universe. Since KOTOR there's been an emphasis on balance between light and dark; and introduced grey jedi. There was the Bendu in the Rebels cartoon who also was all about balance. I think that Sol as an individual got caught up in his own ambition, driving Osha down the path of the darkside. And I thought a story where I s actively rooting for that outcome was new and exciting. Obviously i think that Osha will be redeemed in season 2 and would like to see both Mae and Osha take on an Ashoka-esque grey jedi role.

The reason I make critiques is that if there isn't a change in the quality of shows and movie then eventually rating and box office will be too low for disney to make anything unless it's similar to very low cost fan-made stuff.

@@fernandofreitas2615 and you think they’ll listen to that? They listen to their metrics and their bank accounts. So if you don’t like what they put out, you’re probably better off to stop watching and even cancel Disney+. Not that I think it’s wrong to critique. I have my own issues with the show. It’s certainly not perfect. But some people act like it’s torture to watch the show. Then why watch it?!

I warmed up to Vernestra as the season went on.

@@DaNewWaveLee imagine advertising a lightsaber whip just to have it on screen for 2 seconds to kill a bug.

I didn’t even peep that till you said it lol

Yeah, and Plagueis was on the rocky island to eliminate them.

I am curious about this storyline. Plagueis seemed very surprised. Like he might not even know what a sith is. But if they follow previous work and that planet was founded by Tenebrous than he knows what is going on.

It's possible that Qimir is just a Sith wannabe and Tenebrous and Plagueis are the 2 REAL Sith at this time, OR Qimir was Plagueis' first apprentice before Sidious. We don't know for sure yet.

@@lorider700 "OR Qimir was Plagueis' first apprentice before Sidious" Yeah thats what I implied.

@@DaNewWaveLee " Like he might not even know what a sith is." What?

Casual fan here is that power a neutral ability or dark sided?

wow I didn't even think about that.

@@poenpotzu2865if my memory serves correctly it sounds neutral cause the Jedi are the ones who did the wipe

@@knoxds9732 I’d say it’s up to interpretation, it was used with good intentions, but one day those good intentions will be the downfall of your order, and Revan can choose to return to the Dark side even after said mind wipe (SPOILER) 😳

bro! great catch.

It was just a lightsaber turning from blue to red, it was kinda mild

except that the execution of that scene breaks continuity again but then who cares ...

Try rewatching it again cos thats some very surface level stuff and breezing over info the series gave u. There's answers for almost everything u just said.

Mae wouldn't go with the Stranger. She doesn't want that life for herself anymore. Even if she did tag along and was dropped off somewhere, the Jedi would eventually find her and/or she'd be living a life on the run. This was option C and it was quick and convenient. I buy it.

@@c-hildy Do you think she gave up on wanting justice and for the Jedi Council to know about the Brendok massacre?

@dramaturge231 if she told the Jedi the truth they'd continue hunting her sister down. Remember that Mae nor Osha know of a past connection between Vernestra and the Stranger.

@@c-hildy But they’re still hunting her sister down anyway. She’s missing and a big part of a murder scandal.

@dramaturge231 yeah but with no memory she can't lead them there. Remember it's been a big point that the Jedi can "read their thoughts" (like Kylo does in TFA) so they would've done that with Mae. But now they can't.

He far from the only character that should wear a tag with a picture of flip flop footwear.

As we saw, his helmet clearly takes damage when it shorts out a lightsaber. Qimir also may have suspected Sol would use Dark Side tactics like turning your lightsaber on and off to stab somebody, which is 1. something Qimir would do and 2. a move that would completely ignore the cortosis helmet.

@@cyclogenesis3179 why would the helmet taking damage matter? He has it to use against lightsabers, he's going against a Jedi.. but he doesn't want to have to repair it again so he doesn't use it? And why would suspecting he might turn off and on his lightsaber make Qimir just not use the helmet at all I don't understand

It’s more of a gamble now that Sol knows his style. But i get what you mean, they should’ve showed Qimir trying it once in a different way.

🤦🏽‍♂ You werent watching the fight. Sol was intentionally avoiding the sneaky tricks. The thing about a trick is it loses its effect once you see it. You could clearly see Sol changed up his approach to handling the fight against Qimir. Qimir had several advantages in that first fight that he no longer had in the rematch. Some of yall never been in a fight before and its telling.

The way Sol disables Qimir's saber is literally through dodging the cortosis headbutt that would've disabled his... are ppl even watching this series properly?!

I'd guess to stop him from firing on her. But they didn't shoot/edit it well as we weren't 100% clear that what he was trying to do was to shoot her or how Bazzle would know that or why he would stop him.

@@curtisbme Maybe he thought that it'd stop him from pursuing her further, and damage the ship even more (since he's on the ship as well, he's got a vested interested in making it out alive, obviously); my guess is that maybe he thought that by sabotaging his (Sol's) targeting solution, he'd bring the ship to a halt, and exit the ring-belt in a safe manner.

Right?! She spent the entire series separating herself from her sister. She meets her sister's master who encouraged her to join the dark side, and she's ready to strike him...until he is naked outside and starts just..talking to her? Then she immediately kills her former master, after spending less than a day with Qimir? I know he's got nice forearms but my god, girl, get up! Your entire established personality is ruined within the first few sentences exchanged between you and this man?? Who you watched just murder your former friends/jedi colleagues?? Osha, the established calm and collected one, never let's Sol speak? Because he quite literally defended himself, and her mother and be cult was manipulating their minds and did so twice. He feels such a connection to her, such a bond that he does kill her mother in the process of stubbornly trying to train her, but when she TRULY needs his guidance, he just...let's her choke him to death? Mae also just kills the other Jedi in pursuit of Sol, but when she gets to him finally and can now kill him, she just wants him to testify in court? She didn't want the others to do that? The amount of inconsistencies within character motives and abilities is INSANE.

@@rachel5399it’s just poor writing

The story is nonsensical

I just thought the scene before he said to Mae that he wanted to bring her and Osha to the high counsel to vindicate his actions 16 years ago. But you know... next moment wants to kill her?

@@brettmcinnis473 Because she escaped and he felt a loss of control is how I saw it. 🤷🏿‍♂️

So suddenly Sol is going to kill Mae-I don't know?

Bazil risked everyone dying on the ship. His action was foolish and it's only due to luck that the situation turned out well

@@sinistra7450 Yeah, his good intentions could have killed them all, unless he understood the mechanics of space ships that well. 😂

Anticlimactic deaths are what Star Wars does best

Because Lucas wanted Anakin's light saber to still be blue because it becomes Luke's.

To me it's the opposite: the show seemed to have a lot of filler and stretched out scenes. This show could probably be condensed into a 2 hour or so movie.

They just need to get rid of osha and Mae altogether. She’s a crap character

Qimir wanted to kill her originally, the deal was that she could live so long as he wiped her memory and that Osha went to train with him. He didn't want to leave any loose threads with Mae running around him and Osha in her head

@@teatimelexicon7896 sure but y wouldn’t she just tag along with them? Shes no friend of the Jedi. He just tried to get Mae to kill Sol. With no memories she can’t get justice from the Senate. What’s stopping her from just training with her sister?

@@cameronrussell6276 Because here's the one core of poor writing: you come up with the destination you want (namely swapping the twins from ep1 to ep8), then try to scramble a bunch of scenes and dialogues and developments that are frail and do not hold up upon closer inspections so that we somehow get to the destination. Similarly, when they are trying to convey a moral of a story arc, they come up with the moral first and add in whatever crap story to fit into the moral.

When did he pretend that he didn't?

@@snuffles504 by not bringing it up again? It felt like it was something the writers needed for the chase scene alone

Maybe I interpret to much but I think the show subtly tries to suggest that Sol is also slowly turning to the dark side or at least losing control over his emotions. Deep down he knew all along that is actions were wrong but he lied to himself for 16 years and belived his own lies in the end. However, his negative emotions were never really solved just supressed so I think when Mae forced him to admit the truth, his false reality finally shattered and that in this moment he was consumed by his surpressed negative emotions. I don't believe he really thought about it in this moment, maybe a little bit like when Anikin slaughtered the men that killed his mother.

Killing her doesn't make sense for him, he wanted both of them alive so he could prove to the council that there's vergence on the planet

@@Niesmiesznyy I agree. Logically killing Mae does not make any sense. But since the scene was shot this way, we have no idea what Sol was thinking or going to do. Maybe he, metaforically, was blinded by his anger and blacked out completly, only acting on impulse. Maybe he did not want to kill her but was just trying to damage her ship so she could not flee.

Qimir already killed a Jedi without a weapon earlier via neck snapping. Force choking works, too. I was expecting lightning myself.

I assume a Jedi can resist a force choke through their own connection to the force. My current understanding is that Osha's latent power was so heightened in the moment by her intense anger, hatred, and grief such that Sol couldn't overcome her grip on him.

It’s never really said outright but you see this all the time, if someone wants to use the force directly on another force wielder, they need to either catch them off guard or overpower them. It’s why, in Fallen Order, Vader can toss Cal around like a rag doll but not Cere.

@@snuffles504 I also don't think Sol was fighting back. He did say to her "it's okay" as she was killing him. He accepted his death and let it happen.

Mae used Osha to kill Sol, so Mae was able to kill without a "weapon".

Well said. Almost a complete and utter disaster. Embarrassing for the franchise

The Acolyte is peak star wars. Besides the first two seasons of Mando nothing by disney comes close.

​@@jasontaylor4752 Ah interesting! I really appreciate that you love it. The non Skywalker era stuff definitely gives a lot of room for our imaginations to wander around in. I really would love to see more about how Indara ended up at that table, in that bar, with that interesting cadre of people.

Unfortunately, this is true. Star Wars is capable of being much better.

@@Soulsilver75 After the first season, I'm kinda hoping Mae is all like, 'oh I have no memory and force powers. I must be a Jedi.' And her Jedi captors just go along with that rather than tell her the truth. But in a twist she proves to be a competent Jedi and goes after the dark side threat only to confront Osha who's all like, 'wtf, I'm only dark side in the first place to save you!' And then they kill everybody together.

Mae already failed as an acolyte and betrayed Qimir, wouldn't make sense to take her in again. Qimir also needs just one apprentice if he wants to continue the rule of two after deposing Plagueis.

@@Dass_Jennir okay fair enough 👍 thanks