Steam Heating System Wet Return Multiple Water Leaks Piping Replaces Behind Basement Walls

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Steam Heating System Wet Return Multiple Water Leaks Piping Replaces Behind Basement Walls

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Mikey Pipes - Pipe Doctor Plumbing & Heating & Air

Күн бұрын

Using Viega MegaPress and a couple access panels, we replaced a steam boiler heating system wet return behind walls. Approx 70’ of 1” replaced with new tubing and fittings.
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@hpitchford4402 5 ай бұрын

Mikey pipes is the best. Thank you for the education on heating as it is clear I'm getting scammed. We have a 100 year old pipes in my fathers old Brooklyn house. The boiler/furnace is very old, we think 1940s but works. Wet return? News to me. I'm adding water everyday and everyone I'm speaking to tells me I need a new boiler. However, as you say, where does the water go? Once the basement is cleaned out I'm going to have someone check the wet return as I do not see a new boiler or water adding device fixing the problem as the missing water is the issue. You make it so everyone can understand the real issue!!! I wish you serviced Brooklyn. Thanks for all the videos, Herb in Brooklyn.

@PipeDoctor 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!! We serviced BK only on a case by case basis.

@ronchambers9762 Жыл бұрын

Mike, I really applaud not only your effort to keep it family friendly but your desire to do so. You are so smart and you have the biggest heart. Your content is training a generation of the next influencers of this amazing profession. They are learning how to work and how to treat others. They are watching and they are listening. You are a great American sir. PS...I think about you winning against the cigarettes everyday. All praise

@bobt4949 7 ай бұрын

Nice work! Thousand’s of 100 year old returns out there! Would have loved to see you SMASH that reducing elbow and install a main vent

@JoeSmith-sj4uz Жыл бұрын

Inside of those cast iron pipes look good for 100 yrs old

@donnieporter7890 Жыл бұрын

Pressing that black pipe is the chit.

@chesneyquinn2377 Жыл бұрын

You are the salt of the Earth brother,we need dudes like you! Excellent content.

@jeffreykubiak5126 Жыл бұрын

Mr Hoolihan taught you well ! Thanks Mike grateful for your channel, rookie Peter he's getting there he will be making big 👍 💰 eventually teaching right!

@walterbordett2023 Жыл бұрын

Right on, Mike. Your customers cannot accurately judge your plumbing and HVAC skills, but they 100% can judge your customer service skills, attitude, and that you clean up after yourself and remove all debris from the site. That is what builds referrals and loyalty .

@scottvolage1752 Жыл бұрын

Anything is possible. Make the trades great again.

@eddiew.6485 Жыл бұрын

Your knowledge of the design dynamics of a Steam-heating system is impressive. Usually younger techs like yourself tend to avoid “older” systems like this. Well done as always, Mikey👍

@eddiew.6485 Жыл бұрын

@@PipeDoctor Well deserved!

@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын

woah at 26:23 on stuck pipe wrench, just use pump pliers or smaller pipe wrench to back the adjuster nut off, it doesn't take much to loosen them. lucky you didn't break the cast fitting beating on the wrench, then banging to remove it. lol

@makgou9148 Жыл бұрын

Mike'y at the end of the riser connected to the header the condensate that returns vertically to the boiler is called an equalizer pipe for sure what they have is hokey put a nice drop header setup in and vent the ends of those mains

@tmactheplumber4966 Жыл бұрын

That Milwaukee Bandsaw, wow, incredible tool ! another awesome job !

@Mike-rm7vf Жыл бұрын

I’m guessing you’ve read some Dan Holohan books. Nice work as usual. 💪

@GothRocker7 Жыл бұрын

Mike, please don't start editing yourself while working, to be more family friendly. You got to over 100K subscribers by just being open, honest, and real. I know you have the other channel, but everyone watches this channel the most. I hope you don't start changing. Love your videos.

@RobertKohut Жыл бұрын

Clean up isn't "going the extra mile", it's a part of the job and is expected.... 🙂

@Joop5000 Жыл бұрын

Where that 2" tee is should be two 90 degree elbows, a "swing joint", not really a big deal, but sometimes the boiler tappings are off a little and can cause condensate to pile up in the header and bring water up to the system and cause all banging noises. Of course it doesn't have to be, but I always keep my "Equalizer line 2" also like you mentioned. Those press fittings are time saving for sure, but there are many situations where you just cannot get that huge tool to fit LoL! (😂) I am old school and love to get my Ridgid 400A machine out and start threading! Also, I have done it myself, whacking the pipe wrench to remove a 100 year old pipe can crack the that 2" x 1" 90, it's best to just heat it up and will spin out like butter. But then again, new age plumbers are anti torches! Lmao! J/k

@The1roygbiv Жыл бұрын

To get perfect mashed potatoes you just keep pounding them while slowly adding an ounce of milk as needed. for really creamy mashed spuds you should use whole milk or cream.

@petercartwright5303 Жыл бұрын

Hey mike great job man I just did a big wells McLain steam boiler in cranbury nj and it sucked! Not only trying to take apart to god knows how old 3” pipe with 5ft pipe wrenches and three guys but getting the block in the basement that weighed approx 980lbs by itself which we had to build a ramp on the bilco steps (thank god they had them) and build a sled for the block and back it down with one of our work trucks a few inches at a time, very intense, stressful, insane job all the way thru that thankfully we don’t run into ever! But regardless of all that I feel your pain and appreciate and understand how uneasy and labor intensive working with steam is! It’s hard for anyone who dosent do this work to understand it from a KZfaq video from being hands on with it! I liked your comment about the bottle vents by the 90s as I had to replace the ones that were existing in the house I was working in! Literally everything with steam especially old steam pipes is such a pain in ass to have to take apart! Love your videos bro! If you have a PO please add it in a response i would love to send you a shirt from my company! Don’t know what youd use it for, don’t kno I want to lol!!! Take care brother god bless! - Pete C. - Hamilton NJ

@Austin23191 Жыл бұрын

22:30 glad to see you read my comment Mikey. I like having really smooth potatoes

@piyushkumawat7804 Жыл бұрын

excellent job 🤟

@unifaid1532 Жыл бұрын

Superb video

@thunderbird233 Жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, laughing with appreciation while watching cause this was my day today dealing with wrenching black iron pipe. Cheers!

@aadityasaini7406 Жыл бұрын

Awesome 😍

@makgou9148 Жыл бұрын

Mike'y JTLYK the vertical leg at the end of a single pipe steam main is called a drip leg & the horizontal pipe leading back to the boiler is the wet return they make up part of the first Hartford loop.

@kalpanajangir8984 Жыл бұрын

Keep it up

@jackpfeffer4213 Жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff man

@pramodchoudhary7073 Жыл бұрын

OMG 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@zishankhan8054 Жыл бұрын

Good ♥️

@antoniomancini4894 Жыл бұрын

Great job Mikey 👍

@keithalexander4267 Жыл бұрын

Famous last words” that ain’t going anywhere “😂😂.

@landontakeamericaback2106 Жыл бұрын

Hey Mike you seem pretty adept at polishing the end of those big black things🤣😂🤣😂

@robertdavenport9095 Жыл бұрын

I promise you I hit thumbs up when you told me to lol. I would love to work with you one day. Great video.

@jaybee1930 Жыл бұрын

Awesome job I learned something new today from your video thank you keep up the good work

@jascoplumbingsupply4224 Жыл бұрын

Nice job. You can get mega press jaws for the m12 up to 1”.

@JoeSmith-sj4uz Жыл бұрын

Those auto water feeders prob keep homeowners from knowing there are issues with the system. Adding tiny little water manually every now and again keeps you aware of water loss.

@makgou9148 Жыл бұрын

Mike'y I think you were thinking that at the end of all single pipe steam mains there needs to be a main Vent.

@hilmarpaschold7512 Жыл бұрын

Love them tricks of da trade

@adamwhite207 Жыл бұрын

Great video Mike. Also milwaukee now makes a ips press jaw set for the m12. It only goes to 1". It was a great add to my toolbox for doing service. I already had the m12 and didn't want to buy another press gun just to do megapress. So far im very impressed.

@realestateservicessaleshea99 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for my yearly fill of blow press!🤣🥃🥃🍺🍺🍺 Stay Safe!

@JOHNPHUFNAGEL Жыл бұрын

Cleaning up after yourself doesn't just apply to just heating plumbing, it's any trade. So many times I have seen shit laying around from the last guy that did work.

@FHES2005 Жыл бұрын

Great video and content once again. I am looking into purchasing the M12 ProPress myself cuz I don't do much copper but when I do it's nice tool to have. I do more electrical work than anything I was told again 12 would work on la Crimp fittings for electrical wire that's why I'm mainly going to get the M12 . obviously I got to get different Jaws. God bless stay safe

@bauhnguefyische667 Жыл бұрын

08:20 That reducer 😂 That should have gone on in 2” and reduced on a vertical equalizer correctly sized. That just turned that header into a counter flow type, wet steam machine😂

@bauhnguefyische667 Жыл бұрын

@@PipeDoctor That horizontal reducer blocks the equalizer and causes wet steam. It could have been done with an eccentric fitting given the pitch was correct. That what I’m talking about, Mike. Be well!

@bauhnguefyische667 Жыл бұрын

@@PipeDoctor my apologies, I never troll ya brother, just offer my decades of never seeing the same thing. The trades need smart techs!

@mikequinn2391 Жыл бұрын

Did you have to purge the boiler for oil since it was a new pipe and maybe oil from it will cause surging in the boiler?

@Rektz360 Жыл бұрын

Wog is water oil gas and valve should also say the pressure on the side of valve

@robertsmyth904 Жыл бұрын

not latent heat but sensable heat and its called a burbon tube

@syitiger9072 Жыл бұрын

Hay mike your within working space clearances of the panel

@Michaeljt438 Жыл бұрын

It’s a good day when your a foot too long Mike.

@kylewells6871 Жыл бұрын

Your the man Saint Mike! Excellent work.

@earleclemans4836 Жыл бұрын

Are you sure about them crimped fittings? Oring?

@makgou9148 Жыл бұрын

Mike'y JTLYK That 180 pigtail should be clocked 90deg from where its at especially with that mercury vapor stat the heat expansion will falsely influence its response. In that current position heat expansion of that pig tail will make it tilt left and right giving the switch a false signal.

@makgou9148 Жыл бұрын

Mike'y to determine if its a wet or dry has to do with the elevation of the boilers waterline.

@bigdaddy4975 9 ай бұрын

M12 does one inch black iron

@PipeDoctor 9 ай бұрын

i didn't know that

@modestohodesto7140 Жыл бұрын

That job came out really nice. Being the boiler needs to be replaced would you ever pitch to the client a steam to hydronic conversion? If the rads could be converted to hot water how would the $$ compare to the wet return replacement to abandoning the wet return and convert to hydronic when you replace the boiler.

@whodat1473 Жыл бұрын

can you press the fittings without cutting off the treads?

@sambotoo5326 Жыл бұрын

I have an old rusty return steel pipe , the same one you changed . But I don’t have these tools , can I use the copper pipe instead,

@scottmaz4063 Жыл бұрын

Hope you take the handle off that ball valve. Somebody will shut it off.

@mr.mr.4356 9 ай бұрын

Can I use the mega press fittings on my M18 progress for copper?

@avinashmarothiya6438 Жыл бұрын

💥💥💥💥💥💥

@ItsTheCostanza Жыл бұрын

It’s me…. FRANKIE…. SIKES!!!!!

@MikeItalian612 Жыл бұрын

FRANKIE IS HANGING OUT WITH HUNTER IN THE BRONX !!!!!

@kylekelley213 Жыл бұрын

What happen to frankie

@Brad-jg9vh Жыл бұрын

Do you think that steam is more efficient in general? My grandparents seems like the boiler barely runs yet its very comfortable in the house. We are all taught that a hot water system or radiant is way more efficient but I am really not so sure. I guess it really depends on the house. Just looking to see what you have experienced.

@buildingwithtrees2258 Жыл бұрын

I'm researching this. Seems it's rare to have new systems installed. I have allergies and haven't used my forced air system in 11 years, only an indoor wood stove. If I have to have all the pipes put in for water heat, why not just use steam instead? I really like the super hot radiant heat. Boiler heat just can't get there.

@northernliving2387 Жыл бұрын

Ok Mike Pipes what would happen if it was a force air furnace? Yes I know it's different then a wet system? What would happen?

@sukhavindrajatt8119 Жыл бұрын

🎊🎊🎊🎊

@medicalnegligence Жыл бұрын

Nice vid! Could copper pipe be used on the return?

@sureshalbela5771 Жыл бұрын

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

@Silky_boi Жыл бұрын

Mikey trying to keep it PG but after 20+ years in the trade it’s almost impossible 😂

@earleclemans4836 Жыл бұрын

The screwed together black pipe didn't get to that age for no reason and same goes for soldered copper. I seriously doubt them crimp fittings will last that long

@earleclemans4836 Жыл бұрын

@@PipeDoctor you maybe saved them for the time being. I wouldn't be surprised if after these crimps get some time on them they may figure out they weren't such a good idea and hopefully haven't caused a bunch of water damage. Maybe just a shortcut

@earleclemans4836 Жыл бұрын

@@PipeDoctor i doubt anyone knows yet. They haven't been around long enough. I deal with this type of stuff in my field.

@JSH1 Жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, pardon my ignorance but how do you know when the white smoke is from a crack in the boiler vs condensate from the burning gas? I’ve always had 80% gas furnace so I’m use to seeing the white smoke when the furnace is running. Is it due to the amount of smoke that you can tell? Thanks, just curious. 3:03

@peterd7686 Жыл бұрын

Let’s go Brandon!

@matt21_22 3 ай бұрын

Do you guys always use schedule 80 pipe For your wet return ?

@PipeDoctor 3 ай бұрын

What are you talking about?

@matt21_22 3 ай бұрын

What schedule black pipe do you use for steam boiler systems wet return, and do I need to use stainless Mega fittings.

@evelynperez7576 8 ай бұрын

Good job. But don heat the pipe grench each other .men it doesn't look pro. Use a pipe .o Hamer for leverage. ..thanks

@PipeDoctor 8 ай бұрын

👍

@Steve-bm2zm Жыл бұрын

You need a swear jar @ 5 bucks a violation 👍👍

@landontakeamericaback2106 Жыл бұрын

You gotta mash them taters!

@gtpforever Жыл бұрын

Where's Frankie?

@gtpforever Жыл бұрын

@@PipeDoctor was he the one that was working outside of company time and you did that video of the phone call?

@mattl643 Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with using a bigger piece of pipe as a kick stand....especially in a spot where nobody except maybe an occasional mouse can knock it over lol

@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын

sure, but it would look better with a mounting plate, threaded rod and split ring hangers anchored to the floor (especially in the open area) it's kind of flying buttress unprofessional looking. yeah, I know it costs money and time to install and that was no Taj-Mahal 🤪

@mattl643 Жыл бұрын

@@throttlebottle5906 you're not wrong. But back behind that little wall I think it'll be just fine, lol.

@johnwalker890 Жыл бұрын

Good job Mike and crew, not sure how long the press fittings work at extreme conditions, but when I work for a registered master plumber, we had to thread everything, I threaded the pipe, while the plumber installed it, he would take measurements and mark the pipe while I would cut and thread, I know I'm a bad guy to Dan, but wish you wouldn't talk bad about people"s sisters, because my sister has stage 3 cancer and had to have her ovaries and lady parts taken out of her body and has to keep take chemotherapy to stay alive, it's not a joke when you almost lose someone you care about, not trying to judge no one but you use to say you would give people cement shoes, I know you were just joking, but when I tried to joke with Dan about you, I get the third degree from him, seems hypocritical.

@johnwalker890 Жыл бұрын

Not telling you to change, don't want you to change, just be respectful to others and I will be respectful to you and your crew. You benefit better by doing so.

@ryancallan2511 Жыл бұрын

If you come across a steam 2 pipe system, trap less , wet return set up .. let the world know if you have to vent each radiator individually or do you plug (all) and use the main vents.. I’m three service calls in with guys peters age(no offense) you’ve educated more people than you’ll ever know. My family would be cold without this channel. It all started with - bypass the auto fill.. monitor that s.o.b like it’s making you money😂