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STEAM IS BEING SUED FOR $800 MILLION

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spatnz

spatnz

Ай бұрын

Steam is being sued in the UK for being big and greedy
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@ZoofyZoof
@ZoofyZoof Ай бұрын
Valve isn't doing anything to destroy its competition. The so called "competition" aren't putting in any effort whatsoever to deliver a product that is even close to the same quality as Steam.
@Jasonwithadot
@Jasonwithadot Ай бұрын
The only thing Steam is doing is being a better platform
@XD-sc4ix
@XD-sc4ix Ай бұрын
FR and unless something weird happens they're not gonna win against valve anyway
@AMediumSizedKodiak
@AMediumSizedKodiak Ай бұрын
Bro using steam and quality in the same sentence lol
@Not_interestEd-
@Not_interestEd- Ай бұрын
​@@AMediumSizedKodiak name me a better platform then, I'll wait. Edit- Yoo we got a keyboard warrior in the replies! He hates Steam for being a "monopoly" and I guess prefers Epic? I dunno.
@ZoofyZoof
@ZoofyZoof Ай бұрын
@@AMediumSizedKodiak Yes, I and just about everyone believe Steam is high quality. It's excellently designed and not lacking any actually important features. It's user friendly and gives refunds.
@Madlad123
@Madlad123 Ай бұрын
You’re telling me that they’re complaining over steam prices which go up to 90% off and every game goes on sale pretty much every month???
@randomlittleidot
@randomlittleidot Ай бұрын
i dont think thats what they’re complaining about
@tayzonday
@tayzonday Ай бұрын
I know, right? I have not even played 2/3 of the impulse buys in my Steam library.
@zedoctor_
@zedoctor_ Ай бұрын
@@tayzondaycant believe i just caught a reply in the wild from the chocolate rain guy lmao
@javalua
@javalua Ай бұрын
they probably also buy winrar
@eymenthug
@eymenthug Ай бұрын
Chocolate rain ​@@tayzonday
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune Ай бұрын
"Abusing its dominant position" it literally never has, never stopped anyone from releasing elsewhere and it doesn't decide the prices "Overcharging UK consumers" SOMEONE HAS NEVER HEARD OF AUSTRALIA
@sylvester2395
@sylvester2395 Ай бұрын
The triple As cost triple dollar sign down here
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Ай бұрын
I mean they do they set the lowest price a game can be sold at at any platform most not be lower than the one its currently on Steam via there ToS. Wouldn't your answer not only mean that they overcharging Australia worse and not that they don't do it to the UL at all?
@serch3ster
@serch3ster Ай бұрын
Valve doesnt set game prices, the developer does that.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Ай бұрын
@@serch3ster I mean as I said they might not set the prices them self but they absolutely set the minimum price for the competition as you can't sell a game on steam and than cheaper on another platform.
@huntersuper98
@huntersuper98 Ай бұрын
@@rynobehnke8289 Well I mean yea, that just makes sense.
@williamsmith6921
@williamsmith6921 Ай бұрын
Valve gives an insane amount of features for developers, they earn that 30% easily. Cloud saves, achievements, P2P networking, controller support, secure items market and inventory, beta branch system, your own personal forum for your game, game streaming so people can play your game from any device and play local co-op with friends remotely, proton so that Linux users can play your game with no porting work. The list just goes on.
@gyanchandbharti2612
@gyanchandbharti2612 Ай бұрын
Yeah no one really has an idea what that woman is yapping on about
@cc3
@cc3 26 күн бұрын
most indie game developers (the ones mostly affected by this) don't use most of those features and are still hit with the 30%.
@maximilianmusshoff2733
@maximilianmusshoff2733 Ай бұрын
"Unfairly shutting down competition for PC games." Steam literally never engaged in anti competitive practices, unlike Epic Games which pays game developers to have their games be exclusive to their launcher.
@Not_interestEd-
@Not_interestEd- Ай бұрын
Epic even emailed Valve basically saying "please stop being a good service and charge your customers more or we'll sue you" to which someone at Valve CC'd the email to Gabe with the attached note "You mad bro?" Unbelievably based. Edit: just saw the original clip of it, it wasn't some random at Valve, _it was the COO._ Edit 2: since I've noticed some people asking for a link, I must apologise and confirm links don't like this site. If you're curious, find a video titled "Valve Is Unfathomably Based" by Asmongold Clips.
@shadowmaster435
@shadowmaster435 Ай бұрын
@@Not_interestEd- source? (what to look up in a youtube tab in incognito mode to find it, because yt hates links sometimes)
@wandering_user2
@wandering_user2 Ай бұрын
EG is such a fucked company and this guy was defending them, wild. "Decent game launcher" kiss my ass, it would ignore my setting to STOP notifying me about fortnite every 2 fucking minutes. Also, paying devs to be exclusive is the worst practice I've seen in a while. They spite steam and their only goal is to overtake steam. They deserve to never be profitable.
@jonathanjuarez5544
@jonathanjuarez5544 Ай бұрын
Don't mind me, just waiting for the inevitable EG fanboys to blindly defend their billion dollar company's anti competition practices.
@Xada35
@Xada35 Ай бұрын
They kinda have, with the Steam workshop.
@MrEntaray
@MrEntaray Ай бұрын
I can almost smell the greed. She isn't suing to make it better for us, she's suing to take it to the bank.
@wrongthinker843
@wrongthinker843 Ай бұрын
Typical politician.
@boryolmung9548
@boryolmung9548 Ай бұрын
I think it's more of a consumer advocacy group being out of touch. Like, Marketplaces that sell digital goods (like steam) and streaming services are rare examples of competition is bad for the consumer. It's streaming movies are better when Netflix is the basically only service or everyone under the sun has a own services like it's today? I know competition is the heart of the healty free-market but this is a weird exception. Also their say Valve is inflate prices in the FAQ page even though developers and publishers itself put the prices.
@Xahnel
@Xahnel Ай бұрын
Which is why she'll lose.
@PainfullySoberAndUnhinged
@PainfullySoberAndUnhinged Ай бұрын
Yep​@@wrongthinker843
@randomstranger_3
@randomstranger_3 Ай бұрын
I think she's been paid by other competitors to sue valve.
@Fmac117
@Fmac117 Ай бұрын
steam might be the single most pro-consumer digital service i've ever used in my life
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
Not really
@ciaranproductions5773
@ciaranproductions5773 Ай бұрын
​@@gondorianslayer4250why's that?
@Pyrodiac
@Pyrodiac Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 Well you don't know what the commenter has or hasn't used so you can't say that for them.
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion Ай бұрын
And thus it must be erased. Can’t have good examples to compare to our awful decisions!
@Spubbily01
@Spubbily01 Ай бұрын
I mean it's a private business. Coincidence?
@speedywater
@speedywater Ай бұрын
this situation feels similar to something that happened in vietnam, where local viet distributors/viet game companies complained about steam being better than them, so they got salty and reported the viet authorities that "steam is selling innapropriate games, doesnt pay tax, and sells bootleg games!!!!!! (total lie???)" and then steam got banned in vietnam (oversimplified but you get the point)
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Ай бұрын
They straight up just bit the hand that feeds them. How salty must they really be about Steam being better than them
@valerie5780
@valerie5780 Ай бұрын
"bootleg game" oh isnt that vng and vtc?
@speedywater
@speedywater Ай бұрын
@@valerie5780 ding ding ding ding
@hosam2257
@hosam2257 Ай бұрын
Doesnt steam supports vietnames languagr and region?
@terrarian7910
@terrarian7910 6 күн бұрын
I’m currently in Vietnam right now, every time I try to open the store page I get error 102. You’re able to access your current library though.
@pumaplays6143
@pumaplays6143 Ай бұрын
“Abusing its dominant position.” Well Vicki, if every other company stopped shooting itself in the foot trying to be greedy. We would have more platforms but that’s never gonna happen.
@Fnafan97
@Fnafan97 Ай бұрын
It’s hard not to be a monopoly if your competitors suck at their jobs lololol
@dylanisntvibing
@dylanisntvibing Ай бұрын
Literally the definition of a natural monopoly in a way. Steam has been around for over 2 decades and is objectively better and more efficient than its competition. It's not that they abused their position to get here, it's that every other alternative has shot themselves in the foot or is effectively worse than steam, so naturally Steam becomes the go-to platform and dominates the market, simply because it's the only reliable and effective choice
@SinAster_19
@SinAster_19 Ай бұрын
​@@Fnafan97it's hard to loose when everyone else is loosing
@magnusm4
@magnusm4 Ай бұрын
As if every single company in the entire world, especially in the US, doesn't abuse the smallest spec of any dominate position in an industry. You have dozens of companies to use for this. Multiple companies in a mafia agreement to manipulate the market. But you chose to focus so much on one of the nicest big wigs out there. Why not sue Ubisoft for manipulative agreement terms that you can only read AFTER you've bought the product which cites them as allowed to take away your use of their product. Or the insane amount of unpaid over time and crunch at big tech companies like Konami. Why Valve of all companies?
@sophieedel6324
@sophieedel6324 Ай бұрын
The claim is that Steams abuses its position by telling game makers they can not offer games cheaper than the price on Steam on other platforms. If that is true, Valve is abusing the market, price agreements like that are illegal.
@EarthyOSC
@EarthyOSC Ай бұрын
Ok, overcharging 14 million pc gamers is insane, but what's even more insane is that they are getting sued for almost *1 BILLION DOLLARS.*
@Xport9
@Xport9 Ай бұрын
UK just want money. It's clear that their economy is trash right now if they are THIS desperate in trying to sue Valve.
@MasterGameBen
@MasterGameBen Ай бұрын
that's 70$ per person
@monsterupdatewhen
@monsterupdatewhen Ай бұрын
yeah i just feel like this lawsuit isn't gonna go anywhere, i really don't believe steam ever overprices anything considering the amount of stuff that goes on sale there -also OSC spotted-
@vivious_
@vivious_ Ай бұрын
thats nothing for them lol
@TheOGLime
@TheOGLime Ай бұрын
@@monsterupdatewhen Yeah, the sales are basically 90% off most of the time lol
@itryen7632
@itryen7632 Ай бұрын
Why not sue KZfaq for making their product worse day by day?
@murica7977
@murica7977 Ай бұрын
Probably bc stake holders and advertisers want this so obv its not a problem, its a feature :/
@EeveeRealSenpai
@EeveeRealSenpai Ай бұрын
Who's gonna win against KZfaq lawyers?
@laerte5983
@laerte5983 Ай бұрын
@@EeveeRealSenpaiit’s like facing the disney lawyer
@checkmate9099
@checkmate9099 Ай бұрын
Translation: “Steam has too much of a Monopoly, and we want a piece of the pie”
@hyper1-k6f
@hyper1-k6f Ай бұрын
"every competition is too shit to make steam not seem like a monopoly so i want money"
@EeveeRealSenpai
@EeveeRealSenpai Ай бұрын
"We're too lazy to make a better than half-baked product, so give us some of your hard earned money."
@tayzonday
@tayzonday Ай бұрын
She should sue Valve for never making new games in their popular franchises 😡
@FantasmaNaranja
@FantasmaNaranja Ай бұрын
i guess CS2 just doesnt count now? edit fellas scroll down a bit to see my reply to agent john thank you very much for your time dont reply to me or you will hear from my lawyers
@Mai.Calico
@Mai.Calico Ай бұрын
FixTF2?
@Agent-John
@Agent-John Ай бұрын
@@FantasmaNaranja CS2 is not a sequel. It’s just an update.
@mss490
@mss490 Ай бұрын
I’m unironically on board just on the hilarious offchance we get a legal precident to bully other major studios into doing stuff with their IP, too, so we can Make Gaming Great Again.™️
@FantasmaNaranja
@FantasmaNaranja Ай бұрын
@@Agent-John they gave it a whole 2 in the title and everything! if anything call it a remake not an update if it was an update it'd have as many maps as it used to not less
@iknowdawae893
@iknowdawae893 Ай бұрын
i wanna see the "gabe newell does nothing and wins" meme again
@vreikezen8268
@vreikezen8268 Ай бұрын
I mean, gabe has been doing nothing for years and somehow winning
@dijital4801
@dijital4801 Ай бұрын
@@vreikezen8268 tbf its not like steam has needed much in the way of updating it just works so the occasional UI change change as well as other minor updates is all they really need
@BronzeAgePepper
@BronzeAgePepper Ай бұрын
​​​​@@vreikezen8268 yeah if Gabe started taking more L's maybe there's a snowball's chance in hell he'd get off his Heavy-sized ass and make/fix the games his loyal fans have been demanding him to do. In all that time he's done nothing countless friends have passed away or gotten married with kids before HL got a real sequel, and he's like "we'll get to it eventually," nah bro you're a full-time PC game library merchant now. Which I guess makes sense when, like the video said, those constant sales put you far ahead of everyone else and your platform is the only one that doesn't suck ass. Thanks for the Steam Deck though that's a pretty nice device, and sorry your first attempt at VR since splitting off from HTC got totally mogged by that creep Zucc, maybe you'll get em next time but please fucking fix TF2 matchmaking from being literally unplayable first.
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Ай бұрын
Welcome to Team Fortress 2. After nine years in development, hopefully it has been worth the wait
@Victor-056
@Victor-056 Ай бұрын
@@BronzeAgePepper Not just TF2... CS2 as well. Heck, Rumor has it that Deadlock's Network tests had them suffer Bot attacks during the trials! The problem is Valve not updating the VAC system, which hasn't been updated in over a decade!
@homelessperson5455
@homelessperson5455 Ай бұрын
Valve has always remembered the #1 rule of business: Keep the customers happy. Valve does not have a monopoly by force, they are a rare case of a king ruling with the support of literally everyone from every class. If others provided alternatives that were of comparative quality to Steam's services, they'd have less market dominance. The solution to entering the market's "game" isn't to cry like a baby and demand the best player be suspended for being good, it's to play better and provide better service. People often say "make it and they shall come." Well guess what. Y'all haven't made shit. Only Valve has.
@dominicpond
@dominicpond Ай бұрын
Kinda like Nvidia's GPU's there are other companies, but none match Nvidia, just because of how good they are.
@ezraf.7759
@ezraf.7759 Ай бұрын
Blizzard has a PC launcher, you know the company that wont let you delete your account without SHOWING ID. To say the competition blows is an unserstatement.
@goob1in606
@goob1in606 Ай бұрын
i mean i can see why it asks for proof that's its you before you can delete it but like that is so easily done with what some would call an email
@emberguard5009
@emberguard5009 Ай бұрын
@@goob1in606 Or just ask you to confirm you wish to go through with it. That way if you leave the computer unattended you have time to catch it
@AgrimarYT
@AgrimarYT Ай бұрын
Most services (such as Discord) and I presume even Steam puts your account on a waiting list to give time for the owner to change their mind whether it's actually them or not, I don't see why Blizzard couldn't do the same.
@shadowslayer205
@shadowslayer205 Ай бұрын
Blizzard has a PC launcher?
@AgrimarYT
@AgrimarYT Ай бұрын
@@shadowslayer205 Yea, though it's not required for launching and playing the game; but is kinda needed to keep games up-to-date.
@The_Red_Spy_TF2
@The_Red_Spy_TF2 Ай бұрын
As a steam user in the UK, I have no fuckin clue what she's on about the prices are fine
@vadom2214
@vadom2214 Ай бұрын
I play steam game in UK, and what the actual f*ck is she on? giving money 800 million for one person???
@mrbarit529
@mrbarit529 Ай бұрын
As a steam user in the UK, I validate this comment through peer-review
@santocuban7086
@santocuban7086 Ай бұрын
think she's just suing them for profit, and that's it. I don't think she actually cares about PC gaming users
@Megalania1
@Megalania1 Ай бұрын
Same 😭
@nophone9311
@nophone9311 Ай бұрын
Go compare prices in GBP and then in Dollars. It is by a small percentage but the games are more expensive in the UK.
@SmallKingCrab
@SmallKingCrab Ай бұрын
This is fraudulent. Steam games go on sale so often and huge titles can be extremely cheap. There is no monopoly here.
@xgcsurreal2608
@xgcsurreal2608 Ай бұрын
For all intents and purposes Steam is a monopoly. But they know that by being nice and not exploiting their userbase for every dime and nickel they can squeeze out of them, they ensure steady monetary gain over the long term, plus a loyal consumer base. So they are indeed a monopoly but at least a benevolent one.
@lebronjames-eb4pe
@lebronjames-eb4pe Ай бұрын
@@xgcsurreal2608 they aren't a monopoly though a monopoly is a company that is the ONLY thing that you could buy from so they abuse that. However valve is not a monopoly because there are alternatives. read a dictionary; never mind he says it in the video.
@vreikezen8268
@vreikezen8268 Ай бұрын
@@xgcsurreal2608It’s funny, gaming is basically the last media where I’d expect a somewhat fair monopoly
@shadowsonicsilver6
@shadowsonicsilver6 Ай бұрын
@@xgcsurreal2608 Okay, but Gabe has already told the competition how to defeat his company... and that is by being more available and less greedy to their consumer base, and the competition refuses to listen.
@ibraheemshuaib8954
@ibraheemshuaib8954 Ай бұрын
​@shadowsonicsilver6 Gabe: "Have this gun, now shoot me" other companies: shoots themselves instead
@handlesarecringe957
@handlesarecringe957 Ай бұрын
Valve is like, the _least_ greedy for profit company in existence. Their business strategy consists of doing absolutely nothing while the competition greeds themselves to death.
@strider029
@strider029 Ай бұрын
I've been into 2 sides of the coin (both as a consumer and as a solo developer) and all I can say is you don't see the greed in the consumer side, but the 30% cut of Steam is definitely a thorn for developers/publisher's side. This is the reason why devs, regardless if Indie, AA or AAA companies are raising their prices on PC, to offset Valve's cut.
@TrueFlameslinger
@TrueFlameslinger Ай бұрын
​@@strider029 I won't invalidate your experience, but I've heard the opposite from some devs/publishers because of just how much Steam does (handling server costs, remote "couch co-op," 0% cut on Steam Keys, absorbing Demo game costs, hosting forums, etc)
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf Ай бұрын
30% is the BASELINE and open for negotiations from the getgo. Publishers flocked to steam cause it was a lot cheaper than selling physical copies, and cheaper than developing and maintaining their own online shop. And for that valve provides a lot of services. On Crepic you don't even get a forum for your game. Heck Crepic even RELIES on the public free APIs that Valve is providing with Steam. And really 30% is not much. There are games that are a decade old that still have thousands of active online players - with steam providing the lobby, matchmaking, cloud-saving, achievement-system etc still for free. Those things are not cheap to provide (hence why crepic and co don't have them).
@cc3
@cc3 26 күн бұрын
it's not open to negotiations unless you're a big studio that can fulfill their quotas. 30% is a lot of money when most indie developers don't use many of the steamworks features yet have to use steam as it's industry standard. It's like google saying they deserve 30% of your income because they're the ones directing people to your website. it's not quite the same because valve will host the physical files, but developers already have to pay $100 just to put their game on steam. Valve is very consumer friendly generally, but it's indie devs are left with no choice but to lose out on 30% of their income for a service that doesn't cost valve more than a few cents.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 26 күн бұрын
@@cc3 "it's not open to negotiations unless you're a big studio that can fulfill their quotas." No, not even close. You can negotiate it and for big companies with good sales-numbers it gets lowered AUTOMATICALLY. "It's like google saying they deserve 30% of your income because" No it is not.
@cc3
@cc3 26 күн бұрын
​@@ABaumstumpf you can't negotiate it. I don't know where you're reading otherwise, as someone who has gone through this process and know many more who have, I've never heard of any indie developer getting special treatment. The numbers you are speaking are in the millions of sales, the exact number is not written down but I know of people with nearly $5M in sales that have not received any sort of reduction. The second comparison is a bit wild from me, I admit, but google is another company that we accept as a monopoly because their service is far superior to it's competitors. for the vast majority of games on the steam store, the only things steam hosts are the storefront, the downloads, the DRM, the discussions, and the automated steam support. We (as developers) pay a $100 fee to put it on the steam store already, so this 30% just comes off as greedy. I agree with the way the current system works but the size of steams cut is cheeky. They've only got away with having their cut so high because they can get away with it, and other storefronts such are currently facing similar lawsuits. Why now? because it's taken this long for anybody to bother doing anything about it. The apple lawsuit set a precedent and now we (as consumers and developers) may see the reward. I'm a huge fan of valve and everything they've done but don't forget, they're a company focused on profits like any other.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 26 күн бұрын
@@cc3 "you can't negotiate it. I don't know where you're reading otherwise, as someone who has gone through this process and know many more who have" You might want to read what you are signing up for? I really cant help you if you are not able to read. "getting special treatment" Negotiating and being treated specially are 2 entirely different things. If you think you magically will have to pay nothing - yeah not gonna happen. "for the vast majority of games on the steam store, the only things steam hosts are the storefront, the downloads, the DRM, the discussions, and the automated steam support. " Ah, so "only" the vast majority of running costs. yeah. Go tell me how much cheaper it is to sell it in a physical store while you are at it already. "because it's taken this long for anybody to bother doing anything about it." That is not bothering about it - that is being an entitled moronic arsehole. Nobody forces you to sell your game on steam. Steam does not force you to sell exclusively on their platform. You can sell it any way you like but running all those services costs money. A good example would be crepic-store: constantly in the red despite offering just a fraction of the services.
@speed3414
@speed3414 24 күн бұрын
​@@cc3i just want to clarify, Valve will return you those $100 when your games makes at least ~$1000 of revenue
@chris_3934
@chris_3934 Ай бұрын
One good example why steam is just better is that they WANT to support other platforms. Steam has done so much for the Linux community that without them we would have like 100 games and not like 15k. Epic Games REFUSES to even let Linux users try to run their games and the install preventions into their games that prevent them from running even if they could, just because they don't want Linux to succeed (this is not exaggerated, the CEO said it himself on twitter)
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda Ай бұрын
Wtf? Why? First time I heard it (never bother to read news about Epic) I thought they only have greed and exclusivity
@chris_3934
@chris_3934 Ай бұрын
@@hafirenggayuda The reason the CEO gave is that if linux succeeds, more people will go to linux and use steam more, which is true but not a reason to gatekeep. Steam heavily invests into linux, working on very important compatibility tools and even drivers for free and open source, so more people on linux use steams software and their client because its just the best experience. Of course, steam does not do it because they are so nice guys but because they have a long ongoing beef with windows (and apple also) because they don't really want to help steam and often try to make their lives harder, so by investing into linux, a completely open source and independent platform, they can use this power to make more money (steam deck for example)
@chris_3934
@chris_3934 Ай бұрын
@@hafirenggayuda The reason the CEO gave is that if linux succeeds, more people will go to linux and use steam more, which is true but not a reason to gatekeep. Steam heavily invests into linux, working on very important compatibility tools and even drivers for free and open source, so more people on linux use steams software and their client because its just the best experience. Of course, steam does not do it because they are so nice guys but because they have a long ongoing beef with windows (and apple also) because they don't really want to help steam and often try to make their lives harder, so by investing into linux, a completely open source and independent platform, they can use this power to make more money (steam deck for example). And another reason is of course that they are making themselves more independent of other big companies (had to send again because KZfaq doesn't show my comment for some reason)
@asuperrandomguy8266
@asuperrandomguy8266 Ай бұрын
​@@hafirenggayudabecause it's too much work for then to support Linux apparently
@Spearra
@Spearra Ай бұрын
​@@asuperrandomguy8266And shit like this is why Steam is kicking their asses. Want to beat Steam? Guess what? That takes work. If they don't wanna put in the work and get curb stomped, that's their own damn fault 😂
@gp-1542
@gp-1542 Ай бұрын
Mate The industry is shooting itself constantly Steam is’t “abusing its dominant position” Its the *only* good position
@Xada35
@Xada35 Ай бұрын
Steam feels overated nowdays but yeah. The lawsuit doesn't feel like has much ground.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Ай бұрын
@@Xada35 Not really overrated, if this is *the best* we have. Like yeah, it can be better, but there is no better alternative.
@Xada35
@Xada35 Ай бұрын
Yes there is. There is GOG and Itch io. They have better deal for both players and developers. Hence why i quit using Steam.@@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
No it not
@Xada35
@Xada35 Ай бұрын
There is GOG and Itch io.@@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@johnpett1955
@johnpett1955 Ай бұрын
Saying that customers have paid too much is a bold statement to a company that allows you to refund your games within 2 hours of playing and puts their games on sale for real cheap.
@hiddenmustache6422
@hiddenmustache6422 Ай бұрын
Not only 2 hours of playtime but after a whole month or two of having that game ur likely to still get ur refund
@memes_gbc674
@memes_gbc674 Ай бұрын
@@hiddenmustache6422 and if you bought it right before a sale happened they could refund you the game so you can buy it at the new price
@oofrgang1898
@oofrgang1898 Ай бұрын
@@hiddenmustache6422 14 days of owning or 2 hours of playtime, any more than either and i dont think you can get refunds
@ThePC007
@ThePC007 Ай бұрын
*Correction:* Epic doesn’t have a decent game launcher. It lags so much that I use Epic’s website to collect their freebies and the Heroic Launcher to play them, and it constantly keeps logging me out and bugging out when I try to log back in. I can’t comprehend what’s so difficult about developing a launcher that isn’t a nightmare to use, lol.
@Coconut-219
@Coconut-219 Ай бұрын
@@lunasakara7306 and Valve is kind of undoing all that hard work with these crappy new updates that make SteamClient run like hot garbage. (Horribly bad optimized HTML5)
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
​@@lunasakara7306your a bully
@duckyduckington9736
@duckyduckington9736 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 you're*
@Boomrainbownuke9608
@Boomrainbownuke9608 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 go back to school
@ThePC007
@ThePC007 Ай бұрын
@@lunasakara7306 Well, yeah, but none of those companies are poor. They all have the resources to create a proper launcher if they want to, but they just… don’t. I just cannot imagine it being so difficult to create a user interface that doesn’t horribly lag on modern hardware. They just stubbornly refuse to do so and wonder why no one dares to switch.
@bigfella4546
@bigfella4546 Ай бұрын
So this means we'll also sue Epic for being anti-competitive by paying companies to make their games exclusive to Epic? No, of course it doesn't. Steam is automatically bad just because they're the big guy.
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
So epic can't compete? So everything has to be steam exclusive? That's a monopoly
@bigfella4546
@bigfella4546 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 Can you read? At what point did I say anything should be exclusive to Steam? I said that Epic should not pay companies to make games exclusive to EGS. Explain how that makes me pro monopoly.
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Ай бұрын
"Pls Steam give money because big," but all the examples they put are freaking lies
@thesithofearth3617
@thesithofearth3617 Ай бұрын
​@@gondorianslayer4250no. Epic are the ones that are making stuff exclusive
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
@@bigfella4546 rememebr steam fanboys wnat no comeptition like disney.
@cuuurlyfries5246
@cuuurlyfries5246 Ай бұрын
As someone from the uk, and have been threatened with being sued, it’s really just councils and the way people think nowadays here in Britain. If something isn’t done the way someone else wants it, you get sued. I’m trying to build my house but I’ve been threatened because I want a second story in my bungalow and my neighbors don’t want to lose their 6 inches of sunlight. This is normal for us and it sucks.
@woketacha6112
@woketacha6112 Ай бұрын
isn't it gloomy in Britain on a good day anyway?
@cuuurlyfries5246
@cuuurlyfries5246 Ай бұрын
@@woketacha6112 a good day? Not many of those left. We get good days when we are NOT in Britain.
@jonathand.t.5051
@jonathand.t.5051 Ай бұрын
When did the UK start emulating the US again? Brexit? Or was it post-Thatcher?
@cuuurlyfries5246
@cuuurlyfries5246 Ай бұрын
@@jonathand.t.5051 it started when incapable old idiots ran the continents and created laws that made everyone’s lives harder but made them richer. Soooo… just after Obama and Cameron?
@shiny-piplup
@shiny-piplup Ай бұрын
@@cuuurlyfries5246last time I went to Britain some werewolf dude was chopping up dead body’s and said I was going to turn into a beast very scary I hope your safe
@Ron1n_Sim
@Ron1n_Sim Ай бұрын
"Unfairly shutting down competition" The only time VALVE has EVER stepped into against competitors is refunding and shutting down games that make UNFAIR business practices on consumers.
@amprobaconhair2722
@amprobaconhair2722 Ай бұрын
Remember when Epic Games paid Google like crazy so that when you searched "Apex Legends" it showed you "Fortnite" instead? That'd be a good thing to sue about, y'know for "anti-competitive practices" Instead of a platform who takes a bazillion games and set their prices so low you could literally buy half of the store with 10$. Y'know, just sayin'
@x28MotherFu
@x28MotherFu Ай бұрын
Vicki looks like the type of person to say that video games cause violence, not like i have any evidence to back it up, but she just looks like she would.
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Ай бұрын
And she'd make up her own proof
@catalyst9955
@catalyst9955 Ай бұрын
this comment is really well written holy shit
@Beano__
@Beano__ Ай бұрын
@@catalyst9955 Huh. It's basic grammar
@kassandraofodyssey6475
@kassandraofodyssey6475 Ай бұрын
@@Beano__ Which, spoiler alert, not a lot of people online have good grammar.
@no-bark4112
@no-bark4112 Ай бұрын
@kassandraofodyssey6475 The grammar isn't even correct. There should be a period, and "not" should be capitalized.
@UmbraMG
@UmbraMG Ай бұрын
30% Isn't that high, isn't Roblox's cut like 70-80%?
@onefor2
@onefor2 Ай бұрын
On roblox it depends but yeah, roblox is significantly higher than steams
@SakhotGamer
@SakhotGamer Ай бұрын
Roblox is a professional user exploitation website, don't use them as a base line for anything lol
@palisko
@palisko Ай бұрын
​@@SakhotGamer yes, this is why I dont play roblox anymore
@user-fe7bo5mm1o
@user-fe7bo5mm1o Ай бұрын
roblox taxes like crazy on everything
@beanman853
@beanman853 Ай бұрын
its quite high for a digital download
@zenniththefolf4888
@zenniththefolf4888 Ай бұрын
"Unfairly shutting down competition." Source? Source 2?
@justinfourie3422
@justinfourie3422 Ай бұрын
sadly I think we'll only get Source 2 with Half Life 3
@randomtech94
@randomtech94 Ай бұрын
@@justinfourie3422 didnt it exist already with half life alyx and cs2?
@justinfourie3422
@justinfourie3422 Ай бұрын
@@randomtech94 oh yeah you're right, i forgot about that, in that case we'll see source 3 when HL3 releases
@xallehatesshorts
@xallehatesshorts Ай бұрын
last time i've checked, Valve didn't force publishers to put their game ONLY on their site. In fact, they even let them to use shitty third party DRM/"Stores"/Accounts for their games (and in many cases i wish they didn't)
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
They did.
@theblackoutexplorer2658
@theblackoutexplorer2658 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250didn’t*
@duckyduckington9736
@duckyduckington9736 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 proof?
@Pyrodiac
@Pyrodiac Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 Ok... example? You can't just throw something out and expect us to believe that without any proof or examples.
@LoraLoibu
@LoraLoibu Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 my dude you have the burden of proof
@justyeet2775
@justyeet2775 Ай бұрын
So are you telling me companies can force me to install their stores to play the games I own on steam, AND IS STEAM THE ONE WHO FORCES COMPETITION TO CLOSE
@neonoah3353
@neonoah3353 Ай бұрын
You "own", but thats not really a problem yet.
@Anathematise
@Anathematise Ай бұрын
You don't even own anything on steam. Once steam is gone, or whatever, you'll lose your entire library.
@HyacinthPlane
@HyacinthPlane Ай бұрын
​@@Anathematise Steam has an emergency program that installs the launcher into your computer if the website goes under. So unless you lose your data, you'll still have the games that you've downloaded.
@Warfoki
@Warfoki Ай бұрын
@@Anathematise Same goes with every other digital storefront though, as the closure of Funimation showed recently. Unfortunately, that's the norm with digital goods in general.
@superboxes69
@superboxes69 Ай бұрын
​@@Anathematiseso basically the same with everything that is online and not a physical object? What point are you trying to make?
@wesleyward5901
@wesleyward5901 Ай бұрын
There are many, *many* problems in the UK at the moment, but Steam isn't one of them.. I really wish these people would use their time and money for actually important issues.
@Charlie-nm1kg
@Charlie-nm1kg Ай бұрын
You too huh
@YuriLectrice
@YuriLectrice Ай бұрын
@@Charlie-nm1kg wdym "You too huh"
@spartainwarrior6445
@spartainwarrior6445 Ай бұрын
as a brit we do not claim whoever is suing steam
@TWOBytZ
@TWOBytZ Ай бұрын
the UK women be TWEAKING
@ahereticsdoomvideos3216
@ahereticsdoomvideos3216 Ай бұрын
I think the lack of competition is because Steam's launcher is genuinely better than everyone else since it aims to provide a better service than even Pirating the games
@joshriley2936
@joshriley2936 Ай бұрын
And that's because Valve understands what piracy truly boils down to the most: a service issue.
@king_poyo64
@king_poyo64 Ай бұрын
@@joshriley2936I have never pirated a game that was on steam, only really ROMs of old games they don’t sell anymore. Basically of it not on steam, and 5+ years old unavailable anywhere else, I hit the high seas.
@ibraheemshuaib8954
@ibraheemshuaib8954 Ай бұрын
​@@joshriley2936Yep, the only reason I pirate is cause I straight up don't have a bank account, but I'd definitely pay for the games I've pirated the moment it's possible.
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
No competition is bad
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
​@@joshriley2936Nintendo won't be on steam
@Dannybythebanana
@Dannybythebanana Ай бұрын
Valve is a private company, I will always believe private companies do way better than publicly traded companies. Shareholders want money, you don't deal with shareholders in a private company.
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion Ай бұрын
It’s a very plain pattern. Company makes good products, does well, accrues fame and goodwill, then goes public and immediately pisses in, on, and around every aspect that got them up to that point. Going public is how you initiate a good business’s self-destruct sequence.
@anhondacivic6541
@anhondacivic6541 Ай бұрын
​@OneBiasedOpinion and to prove your point you just have to look at unity
@Valkaze111
@Valkaze111 Ай бұрын
Shareholders sucks
@hehehehe_hah
@hehehehe_hah Ай бұрын
you can see with roblox too, ever since they got very popular, investors just make shitty decisions no one in the community ever asked or wanted. So its kinda like "we'll make sure you wont have to worry about money again but we'll take control of it"
@memes_gbc674
@memes_gbc674 Ай бұрын
same shit that's happening with costco, the ceo is insisting on keeping the 1.50 hotdog and drink combo at that price until the day he dies
@icaruswindrune7116
@icaruswindrune7116 Ай бұрын
So, regarding the 30% cut - back in 2019, it was found that - aside from Epic, Humble, and ItchIO - every store front that sells games has a 30% cut. That includes the consoles and every physical medium retailer (so Amazon, GameStop, etc.).
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
Epic does not do 30%. Stop lying.
@theblackoutexplorer2658
@theblackoutexplorer2658 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250you can’t read, it says aside from epic dumb ass.
@icaruswindrune7116
@icaruswindrune7116 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 Re-read it. if that is too difficult for you, I said "ASIDE FROM EPIC, HUMBLE, and ITCHIO." In case you don't understand what "aside from" means - "aside from" = excluding
@cc3
@cc3 26 күн бұрын
it's industry standard but does that mean we should accept it? Last time I checked, even expensive webhosts weren't charging more than 2 cents per gigabyte download. It's shit that valve is one of the first to be targeted (even if they are one of the biggest) but I'd definitely like for something to be done about it.
@courier.66
@courier.66 Ай бұрын
Being a Steam user in the UK, the only problems I've had with Steam are not even related to Steam, it's just the shitty boarding house wifi
@CentreMetre
@CentreMetre Ай бұрын
Instead of going after perfectly decent companies, why not sue the government for its arguably malicious incompetency over the past 10+ years
@dimsthedimwit600
@dimsthedimwit600 Ай бұрын
That will bring change, and change is bad and evil
@Wbfuhn
@Wbfuhn Ай бұрын
Steam doesn't overcharge. They set the price. They have sales multiple times a year. Holiday sales, special sales, etc. I don't see this lawsuit working.
@ibraheemshuaib8954
@ibraheemshuaib8954 Ай бұрын
Steam also provides local pricing, so countries with worse economies have to pay less to buy games.
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
They do.
@BrewsLament
@BrewsLament Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 proof? i keep seeing you in other comments just basically going "nuh uh", i dont think ive seen you give any actual evidence aside from just throwing out the opposite opinion of everyone else in the comment and im curious if you actually hold opinions or just merely wish to be a contrarian
@LoraLoibu
@LoraLoibu Ай бұрын
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 iirc the developers do that, but steam does automatically convert into whatever currency you're using if there's not a manually set price
@Boomrainbownuke9608
@Boomrainbownuke9608 Ай бұрын
@@BrewsLament its just too hard for their pea sized brain to comprehend. they cant put the time to provide actual evidence for their statements. that requires actual intelligence.
@Guitartube25
@Guitartube25 Ай бұрын
GOG: Am I a joke to you?
@jismeraiverhoeven
@jismeraiverhoeven Ай бұрын
Yes you are
@justinfourie3422
@justinfourie3422 Ай бұрын
@@jismeraiverhoeven gog is still better then Epic in my experience of using literally every game launcher because for some godforsaken reason almost every game has its own launcher
@jismeraiverhoeven
@jismeraiverhoeven Ай бұрын
@@justinfourie3422 yeah but we where talking steam versus gog, and gog just doesnt compare. It does better then every other competitor sure, but that doesnt mean they are close to beating steam. The tallest dwarf is still a dwarf at the end of the day
@unknown34510
@unknown34510 14 күн бұрын
GOG? What is GOG?
@justinfourie3422
@justinfourie3422 14 күн бұрын
@@unknown34510 Good Old Games, it's a very user friendly website and game launcher that has a ton of old games on it as well as a lot of new games
@braggski8540
@braggski8540 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: a class action lawsuit most often results in the lawyer taking the vast majority of the money paid.
@kodelash
@kodelash Ай бұрын
they will use the money to fix their teeth
@Xport9
@Xport9 Ай бұрын
Which probably never.
@TeaCupsTeaPots
@TeaCupsTeaPots Ай бұрын
ah yes the most relevant information
@gaburieruR
@gaburieruR Ай бұрын
Nah, more tea for her.
@Shedmundsss11
@Shedmundsss11 Ай бұрын
We actually have better dental hygiene then America but we do have wonky teeth
@TeaCupsTeaPots
@TeaCupsTeaPots Ай бұрын
@@Shedmundsss11 pretty sure the wonky teeth is just natural...
@lukizard9625
@lukizard9625 Ай бұрын
Steam does not run a monopoly. There just the only good option.
@gdgy7569
@gdgy7569 Ай бұрын
They are a monopoly, but not because they shutdown their competition, not because they have unfair advantage. They are a monopoly because everyone else is constantly making bad decisions
@ImperialOffic3r
@ImperialOffic3r Ай бұрын
???? Bro look at a dictionary
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Ай бұрын
Gog is pretty good
@ImAPersonHehehehaw
@ImAPersonHehehehaw Ай бұрын
They’re a monopoly that we’re all fine with.
@EeveeRealSenpai
@EeveeRealSenpai Ай бұрын
​@@gdgy7569 I'd say it's pretty fair. Other companies just have to not make a terrible product.
@wofker4719
@wofker4719 Ай бұрын
steam actually does sales while others just up the price and then put on sale pretending the price went down somehow
@Tigers_tripes2O2
@Tigers_tripes2O2 Ай бұрын
Finally a youtuber that talks at a good speed so i dont spontaneusly combust out of pure boredom
@yyzttr6306
@yyzttr6306 Ай бұрын
Steam: *Does good and sets the bar high* Competitors: GRAHH NO!!! I CANT BELIVE STEAM IS FOLLOWING THE IDEA OF A CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY GRAH!!
@SoulHero7
@SoulHero7 Ай бұрын
Steam is being sued for doing Capitalism right and not being scummy.
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion Ай бұрын
It’s funny how often people whine about how awful capitalism is, while not understanding that the horrible practices they see today are the results of capitalism without any of its inherent checks and balances in place. In fact, trying to practice _actual_ capitalism now earns you a quick trip to defamation station as you get bombarded from seemingly random directions out of thin air, all definitely caused by angry individuals and not paid actors.
@HumanoidDerpling
@HumanoidDerpling Ай бұрын
Considering how much communism and marxism are infiltrating our culture, this is sadly not a surprise.
@yukitakaoni007
@yukitakaoni007 Ай бұрын
Public shareholders is just Shock Therapy in USSR. Your stuff got butchered and sold off to the greediest wanker who only care about money.
@riffraff7942
@riffraff7942 Ай бұрын
Fun Fact: this is $300M more than MrBeasts’s estimated economy
@ChesterManfred
@ChesterManfred Ай бұрын
If she wins she'll straight up be richer than MrBeast, except she'll keep it all for herself. That's outrageous
@giorgaras1851
@giorgaras1851 Ай бұрын
I doubt any normal person will take her seriously, best case scenario for her is valve to just laugh at her face and in the worse case she gets sued for defamation about the nonsense she is spewing @@ChesterManfred
@PhantomForcesChatBot
@PhantomForcesChatBot Ай бұрын
I felt like I was at an auction for a second there with how fast you just spoke..
@alias7goldenletters
@alias7goldenletters Ай бұрын
so origin and uplay still exist ? im i trpping, have i been using the beta for ea launcher and ubisoft launcher that long ?
@reportedbooch697
@reportedbooch697 Ай бұрын
Wonder how this is gonna affect the whole FixTF2 movement.
@sargentflippy9941
@sargentflippy9941 Ай бұрын
It doesn’t lol
@dantecontreras887
@dantecontreras887 Ай бұрын
@sargentflippy9941 Valve made TF2, and if the lawsuit screws Valve then that means no more TF2
@sargentflippy9941
@sargentflippy9941 Ай бұрын
@@dantecontreras887 assuming if it goes through (which it likely wont because the case is horrible)
@yeetdabeans3883
@yeetdabeans3883 Ай бұрын
​@@dantecontreras887there is no way valve would pull the plug on tf2, the deletion of so many expensive items would crash the economies of csgo and others
@SmartCreeper
@SmartCreeper Ай бұрын
@@dantecontreras887 valve isn't going bankrupt if they lost
@psychopath6652
@psychopath6652 Ай бұрын
"because she believes that users of Steam have been treated unfairly and are owed compensation from Valve Corporation." *...So they're saying 90% off is way too low of a discount.*
@XD-sc4ix
@XD-sc4ix Ай бұрын
Bait used to be believable. It's obvious that the real reason is because they're mad that steam is THE giant of PC gaming market while their pc gaming stores are rotting away
@psychopath6652
@psychopath6652 Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@XD-sc4ix And in the UK, too. There’s hardly any game shops, at least those considered decent at best. I’m more than happy to visit GAME when I’m out, but I’m not buying an (ironically) overpriced game from over a decade ago lol.
@vreikezen8268
@vreikezen8268 Ай бұрын
@@XD-sc4ixWho even uses discs for PC games anymore????
@aregulargenericname8794
@aregulargenericname8794 Ай бұрын
Discounts are not permanent you dunce
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
​@@vreikezen8268so no one allowed to use dics now? Are you in charge dictator?
@somedudewatchingyoutube9163
@somedudewatchingyoutube9163 Ай бұрын
don’t worry guys, I’ll donate $1 so steam will only have to pay $799,999,999
@CaptainRex332
@CaptainRex332 Ай бұрын
If this does go to court and the judge has more then 2 brain cells there doomed
@Chicken_does_nothing
@Chicken_does_nothing Ай бұрын
wait til you see the cut roblox takes from roblox players.
@crafterrium8724
@crafterrium8724 Ай бұрын
roblox
@KatKat32
@KatKat32 Ай бұрын
didnt they get sued like a billion times already?
@hehehehe_hah
@hehehehe_hah Ай бұрын
@@KatKat32 yeah but for other reasons like copyright and stuff like that
@hat4621
@hat4621 Ай бұрын
pedoblox
@memes_gbc674
@memes_gbc674 Ай бұрын
@@hat4621 real
@RaisinHook
@RaisinHook Ай бұрын
Steam Keys are Steam merchandise, thats like getting free Keurigs then selling them for less than Keurig would sell them
@sundew3848
@sundew3848 Ай бұрын
Valve is literally the irl example of ‘Luigi does absolutely nothing and wins’ this lawsuit makes absolutely no sense.
@wrongthinker843
@wrongthinker843 Ай бұрын
So how are they going to prove the "overcharging" part exactly. Considering Valve doesn't set the price.
@aoihitori
@aoihitori Ай бұрын
Basically this is just a nuke made by competitive company. Very subtle UK, very subtle indeed. Vivky was not the smartest Valve competitor.
@BlackenedEclipseCurse
@BlackenedEclipseCurse Ай бұрын
If all your competition is terrible and shuts down, does that technically make you a monopoly? Like genuine question.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Ай бұрын
Yes, natural monopoly. It is not treated as one however, because there is no competition, and so unfair competition isnt possible.
@lautarogomez9711
@lautarogomez9711 Ай бұрын
​@@alexturnbackthearmy1907so what needs to be done?
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Ай бұрын
@@lautarogomez9711 Customers get extremely frustrated to the point of creating a competition themselves? They can exist for decades or centuries given right circumstances (and leadership decisions, rest in piss ost indian company, you would not be missed). Or until the industry itself changes so much that some other company gets a shot at becoming a serious competition. There is really not a lot you can do, and honestly, as long as everyone is ok with the way things are and no one is harmed - it can stay as is.
@secretname2670
@secretname2670 Ай бұрын
​@@lautarogomez9711 Valve seems to be a natural monopoly so I wouldn't worry about taking action untill the CEOs resign from Steam and people start dismantling Steam to sell it to shareholders.
@IdiotamSpielen
@IdiotamSpielen Ай бұрын
yes, because the definition of "Monopoly" only requires you to be the sole purveyor (or by extended definition, the only viable one) of a certain service. The reasons why that is the case, are irrelevant.
@Stage_3_Yawning_Cat
@Stage_3_Yawning_Cat Ай бұрын
The one thing I'd like to mention is that sales can be region specific, so like, you can have a 90% sale in the US, and then a 10% sale in australia... but that's for the sales controlled by the game dev
@mr.vehickL
@mr.vehickL Ай бұрын
what is a steam key?
@josiahbirt9430
@josiahbirt9430 Ай бұрын
The website for the lawsuit also uses obviously AI-gen images on their "the claim" and "about us" pages
@secretname2670
@secretname2670 Ай бұрын
Lowest of the low quality shitposts. A meme so bad to defeat steam. Will they succeed?
@SnugWugs137
@SnugWugs137 Ай бұрын
Fighting off the lawsuit would be treadmill work for Valve, though, so they won’t bother.
@tillianator5931
@tillianator5931 Ай бұрын
valve when they realize doing the bare minimum to keep their company alive is treadmill work
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
Getting cocky don't help
@Boomrainbownuke9608
@Boomrainbownuke9608 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 uh uh uh. you should've said getting cocky WONT help. you are getting an F kid.
@EeveeRealSenpai
@EeveeRealSenpai Ай бұрын
​@@Boomrainbownuke9608 Hey, no bullying the special education children.
@Boomrainbownuke9608
@Boomrainbownuke9608 Ай бұрын
@@EeveeRealSenpai i am autistic. but even i know better.
@Sgt_Ghost123
@Sgt_Ghost123 Ай бұрын
It's just adults being children
@JMCSuburbanofficial
@JMCSuburbanofficial Ай бұрын
Spatnz, your return to sub 5 minute videos are not going unnoticed. Thanks for listening to the fans
@crazymage5316
@crazymage5316 Ай бұрын
Why does steam need competition anyways, maybe if the competition wasn’t so ass then there might be a point
@tobyzilla2.074
@tobyzilla2.074 Ай бұрын
Yes and if I ever do start making video games and sell them on steam I'm also going to sell them on my own website and potentially make it a storefront that competes against steam
@crazymage5316
@crazymage5316 Ай бұрын
@@tobyzilla2.074 thats not what the video is talking about
@tobyzilla2.074
@tobyzilla2.074 Ай бұрын
@crazymage5316 I know that but still if we want steam to still be a good platform thare needs to be competition for steam while yes steams competition sucks and that is why steam is still good
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
Competition is a good thing. You want them to end up like micro and Disney? Fanboy
@crazymage5316
@crazymage5316 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 lmao 💀
@liquidmustard9925
@liquidmustard9925 Ай бұрын
Will this effect the economy?
@SteelSpiderStudios
@SteelSpiderStudios Ай бұрын
🤓☝️
@neptuneash4617
@neptuneash4617 Ай бұрын
@@SteelSpiderStudiosvery funny 😐
@Xport9
@Xport9 Ай бұрын
Probably. If UK wins, Valve will just increase UK's prices even more, and they will act "shocked" as to why that happened. Clearly, UK is drunk off their gourds.
@gaze1ngm0rph1c4
@gaze1ngm0rph1c4 Ай бұрын
@@SteelSpiderStudios look at me I posted a nerd emoji like everyone else does, I’m so cool and I’m sure this meme won’t die someday like every other meme and become annoying.
@yeetdabeans3883
@yeetdabeans3883 Ай бұрын
This will have an effect on the trout population i think
@husseinalhaidari5414
@husseinalhaidari5414 Ай бұрын
This lawsuit is probably not going anywhere
@wilmerreinholdsson1181
@wilmerreinholdsson1181 Ай бұрын
Finally a reasonably long video for the topic. Thank ya kindly
@glitchy_weasel
@glitchy_weasel Ай бұрын
I like to keep large companies in check, but go after Valve, really? Come on, they aren't saints, but are definitely the lesser of evils when it comes to videogame publishers/salers.
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
So valve can do what they want? So they can sell your data?
@yuyukooyunda7476
@yuyukooyunda7476 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 bait used to be believable
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
@@yuyukooyunda7476 yup, you defend it. so you support wef. you must support biden, china and russia then.
@Pyrodiac
@Pyrodiac Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 Do you have ANY proof that they sell your data? Here's some proof implying otherwise: Every so often (I think it's like monthly) they ASK for them to gather info on your PC specs ANONYMOUSLY, and you can just NOT.
@bloodrinker
@bloodrinker Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 your data is already being sold, you have youtube, and therefore google
@spacegamedevsoftware
@spacegamedevsoftware Ай бұрын
That seems like bullshit to me, Valve is definitely going to win the lawsuit.
@lautarogomez9711
@lautarogomez9711 Ай бұрын
​@@lunasakara7306nah, justice is shit. The only justice that ever existed is self justice
@yourwrostnightmare3559
@yourwrostnightmare3559 Ай бұрын
Similar thing is in Poland, but there steam actually overcharges people, as the currency exchanger is outdated and charges more than it should be when exchanging USD prices to PLN (polish currency) prices, there it actually is a problem because games are over priced
@rickeyheard4454
@rickeyheard4454 Ай бұрын
Absuing its position? You mean being the only service that catered to the market? Waste of everyone's time.
@RhyzVids
@RhyzVids Ай бұрын
My dad (I’m from UK) doesn’t overprice anything or whatever else these clowns are suing over either which makes this suit dumber
@jamesbland5207
@jamesbland5207 Ай бұрын
So here is my question, if this British person wins, longshot I know, and she does get the billion dollars while standing on a platform for gamers behalf... What's going to happen to the money?... is she going to buy everyone in the UK Doom Medieval?
@woketacha6112
@woketacha6112 Ай бұрын
nah, she'll be like "I was robbed at knifepoint 4 feet away" in her beautiful new dress and matching necklace.
@lautarogomez9711
@lautarogomez9711 Ай бұрын
​@@woketacha6112while boasting on her throne?
@qoxgnsuch1997
@qoxgnsuch1997 Ай бұрын
@@lautarogomez9711 while boasting in her 5km plot of land?
@SirMegaManNeoX
@SirMegaManNeoX Ай бұрын
Epis Games is secretly BEHIND the Lawsuit.
@jammerhammer1953
@jammerhammer1953 Ай бұрын
One thing that no one talks about when discussing steam fees is that "You don't have to use a publisher in the first place!". Yes, Steam provides many services that are convenient, but I still buy games that aren't on steam if the game is good, such as Tarkov(rip) and starsector.
@LunarMARAUDER
@LunarMARAUDER Ай бұрын
unfairly, first off steam has sales almost all the time. there mad because steam is giga chadicus
@Xport9
@Xport9 Ай бұрын
Of course, it's UK. Nothing new.
@Megalania1
@Megalania1 Ай бұрын
Huh how?
@bluemike1215
@bluemike1215 Ай бұрын
This is why communist countries aren't successful
@toxicannon3670
@toxicannon3670 Ай бұрын
So because one person made an idiotic lawsuit the same goes to the rest of the uk that they're idiotic 😑
@EeveeRealSenpai
@EeveeRealSenpai Ай бұрын
It's not that hard to be better than everyone else when they're self sabotaging.
@sunbroke2679
@sunbroke2679 Ай бұрын
only complaint that i agree with is that some games aren't price adjusted with currencies as MDW 3 costed £70 which converts to 89$ dollars
@tonk5711
@tonk5711 Ай бұрын
Funfact: Poland has the highest prices of games on Steam in entire Europe
@secretname2670
@secretname2670 Ай бұрын
Checked on the web, they are the 21st largest economy but 1st in game price height in europe. Makes sense
@placekpie
@placekpie Ай бұрын
Yes and we get 50 cents per hour (by average and official statistics lie like seriously guys gals and pals seriously most of y'all should do better research)
@bucketeer8921
@bucketeer8921 Ай бұрын
iunno the prices look fine to me and im a uk consumer
@strawman3859
@strawman3859 Ай бұрын
epic does most of the things steam is accused of here
@thefiresworddragon927
@thefiresworddragon927 Ай бұрын
Gaben try not to laugh at his greedy competitors' stupidity challenge: impossible
@RandomCommentMakerPerson
@RandomCommentMakerPerson Ай бұрын
Steam is just built different
@matthewgrode9204
@matthewgrode9204 Ай бұрын
Built correctly
@nopejustnope3900
@nopejustnope3900 Ай бұрын
Suing valve for what is every other companies' problem is peak british
@michasokoowski6651
@michasokoowski6651 Ай бұрын
Ah, the classical case of "hey, i want a cut of this cake for free"
@sloft-70
@sloft-70 Ай бұрын
Can these people sue Valve for the bot crisis and not because Gabe farted a little too loud one Saturday?
@Altaku84
@Altaku84 Ай бұрын
If you're gonna sue for overcharging, why target steam? Why not playstation? They actually do that.
@nophone9311
@nophone9311 Ай бұрын
She is right about UK costumers being charged more. It isn't by much but games on steam cost more in the UK than they do in the US. Regional pricing is great, but it isn't perfect, and countries with strong currency often end up paying more.
@Coconut-219
@Coconut-219 Ай бұрын
I've experienced the opposite, as an American with a UK friend games over here are commonly 2x what the publicly stated international conversion rate says it should be. Yes the UK is being charged more compared to certain "globalist-favored" countries though...
@gondorianslayer4250
@gondorianslayer4250 Ай бұрын
​@@Coconut-219you lie
@duckyduckington9736
@duckyduckington9736 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 bro who hacked ur account, ur shit is 3 years old and you are botting.
@Utter_Disc
@Utter_Disc Ай бұрын
​@@Coconut-219 a literal VPN prove you wrong
@Boomrainbownuke9608
@Boomrainbownuke9608 Ай бұрын
@@gondorianslayer4250 prove they did, or shut it.
@Dhalin
@Dhalin Ай бұрын
There is also GOG which does have a launcher, though nobody uses the launcher. In fact for older games, GOG is usually better, because you can get DRM-free stand-alone executables and skip the need for a launcher altogether.
@BlackSabbath628
@BlackSabbath628 Ай бұрын
For all games GOG is better, because you can download the installer without needing any client to begin with. Thereby allowing you actually own the games you buy. It's just that GOG doesn't have everything that Steam does because most major companies do want DRM and games as a service to control what you own.
@phantik5090
@phantik5090 Ай бұрын
​@@BlackSabbath628drm will be removed if steam ever went down,but for now its just words and waiting until steam would die willnot be a fast one
@isaac161000
@isaac161000 Ай бұрын
is this the lawsuit that I've been getting ads for on instagram and youtube
@chernobyl169
@chernobyl169 Ай бұрын
Something tells me Gabe is gonna bring the receipts and shut this lawsuit down faster than The Crew
@oskarhasabeanie
@oskarhasabeanie Ай бұрын
this is making the British (me) look like idiots
@DiceMan20
@DiceMan20 Ай бұрын
There, lawsuit dismantled in 3 minutes
@pyrioncelendil
@pyrioncelendil Ай бұрын
The fun part about filing suits in the UK is that if she loses, she has to pay Valve's legal costs. That's baked into their legal system, unlike in the US, where it's optional, and has to be explicitly requested from the judge.
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